Shingles here in Newfoundland Canada on November 6 2021 are $36.41 for a 33.3 square foot bundle of GAF Timberline HDZ and $30.20 for a bundle of GAF Marquis Weathermax 3 tab shingles. Still better to go with architectural though.
Are Architectural shingles more energy efficient than 3-Tab shingles? I read, "Architectural shingles are engineered to remain cooler than traditional shingles by offering greater light deflection. They also provide added insulation, which reduces heat transference between your home and the outdoors, resulting in lower heating and cooling bills." I lived in both a homes with Architectural and 3-Tab shingles. From personal experience I would say the architectural was cooler. However, my experience is limited and I would like to get your point of view. Thanks.
lol I just got 33 bundles of archatecatural shingles @ 23 per bundle gaf timberline hdz shakewood laminated high def shingles . it's July 2021 now and shingles just went up again in price .
Looking at purchasing brownish shingles for my white colonial style home. What color/product of architectual shingle would you recommend? What have you seen look good?
We have an architectural dimensional shingles and found out we have hail damage, I'm taking it's not covered with the warranty. Had it installed 2015 Would I be correct?
3 tabs look good on a small single story low pitch roof in a close residential setting. Architectural looks good in higher pitch newer construction suburb setting
Warranties a most often than not crap thats just msrketing. You always have to fight uphill to get something covered unless its a home depot socket exchange or a harbor freight tool return 😆
So one comment I will make. Where I live, you're required by code to install 130mph shingles. There are only 2 3-Tab shingles that can be installed due to this limit, Malarkey Alaskan being the most popular. However, most high end architectural shingles can exceed this. In some nearby cities, they go as high as 150mph requirements, which only a select few architectural shingles can manage.
For the sub..what would your recommendations be for the best visual on a brick home? Not sure what to call the color..it's a bit faded red brick traditional look. Build in the 90s.
Not necessarily true, I just went through Hurricane Ida sustained winds of 150mph gusts of 180. The house was pounded for at least 12 hours, obviously the wind only peaked at this speed for a couple hours. I bought my grandparents house when they passed a couple years ago. It is a 25-year-old plus 3-tab and only lost a few single tabs here and there. My grandfather put on the roof and hand nailed ring shank nails with 4 nails per 3-tab. My neighbors all had way more damage including next door the 10 year old architectural lost a whole side of his roof. One neighbor I went on her roof and helped her put on tarps because the damage was so extensive. She has a 3-tab which was only 12 years old but was put on by one of those budget crews that did the roof in a day with the nail guns and I saw only 2 nails per 3-tab. Both neighbors had to completely get a new roof. I only had to do minor repairs .So, it really seems to make a difference on the way and how many nails were used more so than the type of shingle, at least from my experience.
You are absolutely correct! In most hurricane areas, there are supposed to be 6 nails per shingle in today's building codes. 4 nails per shingle is the minimum, but never 2. You are absolutely correct, a bad crew installed them. But if both are installed correctly, MOST architectural shingles will out perform a 3-Tab
I live outside New Orleans and experienced Ida, my roof is only a 2.5 on 12 pitch. GAF Timberline HDZ says they can be used on a low slope, but need double underlayment. What is your recommendations.
@@DigitalRoofingInnovations hi, can I put Ice and snow water shield on the whole deck instead of underlayment? Or I can use both? I’m ready to install a new roof at my house What do you think about Malarkey Highlander Nex? Or any other recommendation Thanks a lot.
Hey thanks! I'm going to be purchasing all materials for a mansard roof and the contractor doing the job asked specifically for "dimensional shingles ' I'm assuming architectural shingles are the same?
My 19 year old Iko 3 tab roof is going to be replaced soon. Roofer in Toronto Ontario says I have at least 3 more years, but I’ve had several singles replaced due to windstorms throughout the past few years. Starting to also fade and I really don’t want to wait. Going with Architectural for sure, which shingle do you recommend that can take high winds. I have red brick so going with black this time for sure. Thanks.
Honestly, most all the shingle manufacturers are pretty good, it's the contractor that matters the most. Make sure they install all new drip edge, underlayment, do a deck inspection, and install new flashing. The install will matter much more than the shingle manufacturer. With that said, I really like GAF, Certainteed, and Malarky but think they are all really good.
Architectural shingles are about 50 percent heavier than the 3-tab kind. The base mat on an architectural shingle is thicker than that on a 3-tab shingle. This makes the architectural shingle a sturdier roofing material. Architectural shingles also comprise stronger adhesives, and they have more granules on their top surface. They are also made from asphalt of a finer quality than 3-tab shingles.
Given the proportion of labor vs materials costs, durability is very important from a cost perspective. Also, both labor and materials will likely exceed general inflation. As an example, in my area of CA, highest quality Architectural shingles are going for over $250/sq. Most of that is probably due to Covid inflation so hopefully prices will not continue on that trajectory.
My house is tan with white trim and 3 tab estate gray shingles..all my neighbors have reddish brown shingles..what color do you recommend for resale and aesthetics.
I wish I could add a picture but what would cause parts of arch shingles to start falling where it looks like pieces of some of the squares are hanging by one corner? We have about 35-40 like this so far. Roof was put on in September 2020.
Digital Roofing Innovations I wish I could post a picture but some of the little squares a now hanging by in corner. You know how each shingles has sections, that part.
I compared the weight of my new Atlas Architectural shingle to my old 3 Tab shingle: The Architectural shingle is much heavier. * It was difficult choosing a color of shingle because I was stuck on the color of the old black shingle. I am satisfied I choose a different color that blends well with my entire property.
Awesome video! You convinced me to go with Architectural shingles after roof damage from hurricane Zeta. Question please: I'm selling my home in 5 years and want a dark roof so it doesn't look dirty come selling time. My home is red brick. Can you please recommend a dark color that goes well with red brick but still shows off the Arch shingles? Thanks again for your outstanding info!
I love the way a black roof looks on a red brick home. You'll still be able to see the architectural design. My house way red brick before I painted the brick and I have black GAF Timberline HD shingles installed on my place. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hi, your video was very helpful and thorough, but I was hoping you can answer a question about whether it's recommended to install an underlayment (ie. synthetic felt) more or less for architectural shingles vs 3 Tab or its equally recommended for both. I live in the Toronto area and the winters are a consideration.
Susan, underlayment, where it be tar paper or synthetic is a heavily debated topic. I would recommend putting it down, but I know many contractors don’t do that in Canada on very steep roofs. We have always installed it, but it’s more of a secondary barrier if your roof is torn off due to wind than anything else.
Thank you for the great informative video. I live in Al also. How much do you charge by the square? Please advise asap. I believe that it's possible that the contractor is trying to take advantage of us.
Dumb question here: How big is a “square” , how much does a square cover? You said 3 bundles equal a square. I’m looking to replace my roof in Placer county, CA. House is 1445 sq feet. I don’t have the money to pay someone to replace it so I’m doing the research to learn on my own. I have no choice but to learn and do it myself. I would rather do standing seam metal but I don’t think I can accomplish that with my budget and lack of knowledge.
@@765lbsquat It’s not exactly rocket science. Just do enough research and make sure you do it with best practice. Plus you would care about your house much more than some contractor trying to make a profit.
ARE THERE STILL COMPANIES SELLING THE 3 TAB? I THINK THE FEW THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE JUST THE LEFT OVERS....ABOUT A YEAR AGO I SAW ABOUT 2 SELLERS SELLING THE GRAY 3 TAB THAT I NEED...NOW NO MORE
No, it's not. The intense heat and humidity of the summers mixed with tornadoes and severe thunderstorms isn't exactly idea. Snow doesn't affect shingles the way blistering and hailstorms will!
That first 3 tab roof in a tan color looked horrible lol. Looked like a drunk roofer laid those things down. I have only ever laid 3 tab in my life because well, I'm not a contractor lol. Getting ready to drop some architecturals on my house now and I'm loving not having to line up every single shingle.
Had a Tamko roof for two months before hurricane IDA. They didn’t seal and had to replace the whole thing. Called for warranty and the said they don’t cover Hurricanes even though the wind was below warranty limit. Screw them. Went with Timberline GAF this time.
The 3-tab isn’t better in any way other than cost. Other than maybe you thinking it looks better. It’s not being biased, it’s about being a contractor and knowing which one is better. For example, if you ask Toyota which is better, the Corolla or the Camry, they are going to say the Camry. Same philosophy here. Hope this helps!
That’s because they want to pay the lowest price possible for your roof replacement they will suggest the cheapest shingles and only cover the cost of that Trust me the insurance company is not your friend
Im in a condo..as Im watching this Roofers are putting a new shingles on.. They are terrible..roofing nails all over the ground. Dont speak English, trucks running over sprinkler heads, etc. Our condo president chose these clowns
No, they don't. Some architectural shingles such as specific Designer Shingles and Class 4 Impact Resistant (IR) will take 4 bundles per square, but MAJORITY of architectural shingles only take 3 bundles per square.
Check out our full-length article here! digitalroofingcompany.com/blog/what-are-asphalt-shingles/
Use of only 4 nails per shingle is plainly unprofessional.
You come up in all of my searches, you've been so helpful in my shingling job, thank you!
This really helped me because I am about to do my roof and wasn’t sure which one to choose now I am sure with your help, thanks for whole lot for this
did you endup getting architectural?
I got architectual shingles installed yesterday
Awesome! How do they look?
Thank you. Definitely gonna help me out with my decision. Longevity makes it a lot bigger difference especially with the costs these days
I just got a new roof a few days ago. The roofer used Atlas Pinnacle in Pristine Black. They look great!
Awesome explaining !
Shingles here in Newfoundland Canada on November 6 2021 are $36.41 for a 33.3 square foot bundle of GAF Timberline HDZ and $30.20 for a bundle of GAF Marquis Weathermax 3 tab shingles. Still better to go with architectural though.
Answered all my questions
Happy to hear that!
Are Architectural shingles more energy efficient than 3-Tab shingles? I read, "Architectural shingles are engineered to remain cooler than traditional shingles by offering greater light deflection. They also provide added insulation, which reduces heat transference between your home and the outdoors, resulting in lower heating and cooling bills." I lived in both a homes with Architectural and 3-Tab shingles. From personal experience I would say the architectural was cooler. However, my experience is limited and I would like to get your point of view. Thanks.
Great video! Really informative.
lol I just got 33 bundles of archatecatural shingles @ 23 per bundle gaf timberline hdz shakewood laminated high def shingles . it's July 2021 now and shingles just went up again in price .
Excellent video. You just gained a new sub. Thanks
Danny, thank you a lot! I am glad to have you on board and let us know if you have any videos you want us to do.
Looking at purchasing brownish shingles for my white colonial style home. What color/product of architectual shingle would you recommend? What have you seen look good?
We have an architectural dimensional shingles and found out we have hail damage, I'm taking it's not covered with the warranty. Had it installed 2015 Would I be correct?
You are 100% correct and hail damage wouldn't be covered anyway. That is an "act of god" and you need to contact your insurance company.
@DigitalRoofingInnovations thank you, yes i just filed claim yesterday for my cliet.
Wow, first video I watched and was great! Sub!
Fantastic, thank you! Glad to have you onboard!
Nice job. Appreciate the explanations.
Do y'all service Saint Joseph TN?
3 tabs look good on a small single story low pitch roof in a close residential setting. Architectural looks good in higher pitch newer construction suburb setting
I totally agree!
Warranties a most often than not crap thats just msrketing. You always have to fight uphill to get something covered unless its a home depot socket exchange or a harbor freight tool return 😆
Nice video thanks
You're welcome!
So one comment I will make.
Where I live, you're required by code to install 130mph shingles. There are only 2 3-Tab shingles that can be installed due to this limit, Malarkey Alaskan being the most popular.
However, most high end architectural shingles can exceed this. In some nearby cities, they go as high as 150mph requirements, which only a select few architectural shingles can manage.
For the sub..what would your recommendations be for the best visual on a brick home? Not sure what to call the color..it's a bit faded red brick traditional look. Build in the 90s.
Not necessarily true, I just went through Hurricane Ida sustained winds of 150mph gusts of 180. The house was pounded for at least 12 hours, obviously the wind only peaked at this speed for a couple hours. I bought my grandparents house when they passed a couple years ago. It is a 25-year-old plus 3-tab and only lost a few single tabs here and there. My grandfather put on the roof and hand nailed ring shank nails with 4 nails per 3-tab. My neighbors all had way more damage including next door the 10 year old architectural lost a whole side of his roof. One neighbor I went on her roof and helped her put on tarps because the damage was so extensive. She has a 3-tab which was only 12 years old but was put on by one of those budget crews that did the roof in a day with the nail guns and I saw only 2 nails per 3-tab. Both neighbors had to completely get a new roof. I only had to do minor repairs .So, it really seems to make a difference on the way and how many nails were used more so than the type of shingle, at least from my experience.
You are absolutely correct! In most hurricane areas, there are supposed to be 6 nails per shingle in today's building codes. 4 nails per shingle is the minimum, but never 2.
You are absolutely correct, a bad crew installed them. But if both are installed correctly, MOST architectural shingles will out perform a 3-Tab
@@DigitalRoofingInnovations you should have put this information in the video
I live outside New Orleans and experienced Ida, my roof is only a 2.5 on 12 pitch. GAF Timberline HDZ says they can be used on a low slope, but need double underlayment. What is your recommendations.
Yes, it can. I would recommend just putting down Ice and Water Shield over the whole deck instead of double underlayment.
@@DigitalRoofingInnovations hi, can I put Ice and snow water shield on the whole deck instead of underlayment? Or I can use both?
I’m ready to install a new roof at my house What do you think about Malarkey
Highlander Nex? Or any other recommendation
Thanks a lot.
Just did a shed roof in 2024, I would love to have the prices in this video! Lol
Hey thanks! I'm going to be purchasing all materials for a mansard roof and the contractor doing the job asked specifically for "dimensional shingles ' I'm assuming architectural shingles are the same?
My 19 year old Iko 3 tab roof is going to be replaced soon. Roofer in Toronto Ontario says I have at least 3 more years, but I’ve had several singles replaced due to windstorms throughout the past few years. Starting to also fade and I really don’t want to wait. Going with Architectural for sure, which shingle do you recommend that can take high winds. I have red brick so going with black this time for sure. Thanks.
Honestly, most all the shingle manufacturers are pretty good, it's the contractor that matters the most. Make sure they install all new drip edge, underlayment, do a deck inspection, and install new flashing. The install will matter much more than the shingle manufacturer.
With that said, I really like GAF, Certainteed, and Malarky but think they are all really good.
What makes them more durable????
Architectural shingles are about 50 percent heavier than the 3-tab kind. The base mat on an architectural shingle is thicker than that on a 3-tab shingle. This makes the architectural shingle a sturdier roofing material. Architectural shingles also comprise stronger adhesives, and they have more granules on their top surface. They are also made from asphalt of a finer quality than 3-tab shingles.
more overlap area, it like 2 layers, kinda
how come myself and all my neighbors got 25yrs easy out of our 3 tabs?
Thoughts on architectural vs slate?
Informative video ... Thank you
Given the proportion of labor vs materials costs, durability is very important from a cost perspective. Also, both labor and materials will likely exceed general inflation. As an example, in my area of CA, highest quality Architectural shingles are going for over $250/sq. Most of that is probably due to Covid inflation so hopefully prices will not continue on that trajectory.
My house is tan with white trim and 3 tab estate gray shingles..all my neighbors have reddish brown shingles..what color do you recommend for resale and aesthetics.
reddish brown
I wish I could add a picture but what would cause parts of arch shingles to start falling where it looks like pieces of some of the squares are hanging by one corner? We have about 35-40 like this so far. Roof was put on in September 2020.
Quin, we are a little unclear what you are asking. What do you mean they are "hanging by one corner"?
Digital Roofing Innovations
I wish I could post a picture but some of the little squares a now hanging by in corner. You know how each shingles has sections, that part.
Very informative
Thanks
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Dutch, welcome to the family!
Great job!
I compared the weight of my new Atlas Architectural shingle to my old 3 Tab shingle: The Architectural shingle is much heavier.
* It was difficult choosing a color of shingle because I was stuck on the color of the old black shingle. I am satisfied I choose a different color that blends well with my entire property.
Whey you say square, means sq.ft or sq.mtr?
Square is a word for 100 square feet. Here’s a video that explains exactly what I am referring to:
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Ok, but when you calculated the price of 3 tab shingles, you said 3 shingles are equal to one square, means 100 sqft, which is not possible
@@technicaltendency 3 Bundles*
@@DigitalRoofingInnovations Good makes sense
Awesome video! You convinced me to go with Architectural shingles after roof damage from hurricane Zeta. Question please: I'm selling my home in 5 years and want a dark roof so it doesn't look dirty come selling time. My home is red brick. Can you please recommend a dark color that goes well with red brick but still shows off the Arch shingles? Thanks again for your outstanding info!
I love the way a black roof looks on a red brick home. You'll still be able to see the architectural design. My house way red brick before I painted the brick and I have black GAF Timberline HD shingles installed on my place.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@DigitalRoofingInnovations Thanks so much for the info..will definitely check them out. Stay well my friend!
Thank you
Hi, your video was very helpful and thorough, but I was hoping you can answer a question about whether it's recommended to install an underlayment (ie. synthetic felt) more or less for architectural shingles vs 3 Tab or its equally recommended for both. I live in the Toronto area and the winters are a consideration.
Susan, underlayment, where it be tar paper or synthetic is a heavily debated topic. I would recommend putting it down, but I know many contractors don’t do that in Canada on very steep roofs.
We have always installed it, but it’s more of a secondary barrier if your roof is torn off due to wind than anything else.
Can you recommend a real quality reliable roofing repair company for me ?
I’m located in south Florida. Thank you 🙏.
Call Spec Building Materials and ask for a referral. They are a local distributor and know most of the contractors in the area.
What choice you can’t even find 3 tab shingles in my area anymore.
Thank you for the great informative video. I live in Al also. How much do you charge by the square? Please advise asap. I believe that it's possible that the contractor is trying to take advantage of us.
Dumb question here:
How big is a “square” , how much does a square cover? You said 3 bundles equal a square.
I’m looking to replace my roof in Placer county, CA. House is 1445 sq feet. I don’t have the money to pay someone to replace it so I’m doing the research to learn on my own. I have no choice but to learn and do it myself. I would rather do standing seam metal but I don’t think I can accomplish that with my budget and lack of knowledge.
If you do it yourself you will do a poor job and will end up costing you a lot more money when your house floods. Better to just hire a professional
@@765lbsquat It’s not exactly rocket science. Just do enough research and make sure you do it with best practice. Plus you would care about your house much more than some contractor trying to make a profit.
Did you make a video on what a square is?
If you really need that I will make it.
I think archs are easier to install.
If people were honest, which roofers def are not, it should technically cost less money to install archs.
ARE THERE STILL COMPANIES SELLING THE 3 TAB? I THINK THE FEW THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE JUST THE LEFT OVERS....ABOUT A YEAR AGO I SAW ABOUT 2 SELLERS SELLING THE GRAY 3 TAB THAT I NEED...NOW NO MORE
Yes. GAF makes them. They typically go on manufactured homes / sheds but I found out my house currently has them! Previous owner cheaped out
So Alabama is not an “optimal” climate in the U.S. for the purpose of warranties? Your winters are VERY mild & you virtually NEVER get snow!
No, it's not. The intense heat and humidity of the summers mixed with tornadoes and severe thunderstorms isn't exactly idea.
Snow doesn't affect shingles the way blistering and hailstorms will!
Very informative
That music....are you watching poker the big game? Coz I am right now and it sounds like the intro music. Tf? Lol
That first 3 tab roof in a tan color looked horrible lol. Looked like a drunk roofer laid those things down. I have only ever laid 3 tab in my life because well, I'm not a contractor lol. Getting ready to drop some architecturals on my house now and I'm loving not having to line up every single shingle.
Lol at 10:50 worst 3 tab shingle job I’ve seen what the hell??!
Lol just pics from the internet, not projects we've done.
13min of my life back pls
DAMN ARE YOU BUYING WHOLESALE ? I PAY 96 A SQ FOR 30 YEAR ,,AND 93 A SQ 3 TAB... 3 TAB IS GOING TO BE OBSOLETE SOON
$55 today new orleans
Common mistake old school roofers do is shingle the architecture shingles like a 3 tab. That won't give you a good job.
LOL no. I clicked to see what you had to say about them. I’m an architect specializing in building envelopes. My partner is a Union roofer.
Tamco’s don’t seal
Had a Tamko roof for two months before hurricane IDA. They didn’t seal and had to replace the whole thing. Called for warranty and the said they don’t cover Hurricanes even though the wind was below warranty limit. Screw them. Went with Timberline GAF this time.
You didnt tell us where 3-tab is better except cost. I feel like you are a little biased
The 3-tab isn’t better in any way other than cost. Other than maybe you thinking it looks better. It’s not being biased, it’s about being a contractor and knowing which one is better.
For example, if you ask Toyota which is better, the Corolla or the Camry, they are going to say the Camry.
Same philosophy here. Hope this helps!
Use the best shingles for your area, and hire the best roofing contractor to install them, and you're be fine. Screw the price, quality = value.
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I feel like the price comparison could have been much quicker, felt like I was back in 4th grade...lol
According to my insurance company, there is no difference.
That’s because they want to pay the lowest price possible for your roof replacement they will suggest the cheapest shingles and only cover the cost of that
Trust me the insurance company is not your friend
I agree with iloveboats1. Your insurance company should be paying for a 30-year "architectural shingle" if that is what you currently have installed.
Im in a condo..as Im watching this Roofers are putting a new shingles on.. They are terrible..roofing nails all over the ground. Dont speak English, trucks running over sprinkler heads, etc. Our condo president chose these clowns
3000-4000 square feet is normal residential size in your area. Well god damn.
get the better one. your tren is showing
BS. Artchitecural takes 4 BUNDLES per/square.....
No, they don't. Some architectural shingles such as specific Designer Shingles and Class 4 Impact Resistant (IR) will take 4 bundles per square, but MAJORITY of architectural shingles only take 3 bundles per square.
relax, i think he's correct...depends on you square footage.
Thank You