Need a "Best Work Boots" video series specifically for people who work in the trades or are on their feet 8+ hours per day, often in harsh environments. All types of work boots. I think this would be a popular series for you. Tradespeople drop serious money on footwear. It's hard to know who are cutting corners like Carhartt until you've wasted your cash.
Not many people would wear or like these, but for ROUGH, HARSH environment (kneeling with toes on the concrete/dirt, welding, wet/mud/57 stone/gravel/etc.), needing a steel toe with comfort on concrete 8-10 hours a day, the Keen Utility US Made boots with steel toe, large rubber toe box cover, Gortex lining, etc., are tough to beat. They aren't cheap but will last 14-18 months in these harsh conditions, provide protection, comfort and meet OSHA requirements. They don't meet the heel for ladder climbing, tho. Most tradesmen I know wear the square toe, steel toe pull-up boots and they get 12-14 months out of them.
Nicks has the best work boot in the world with the toughest leather and toughest construction with their max-wear boot, however it costs $550-700, Red Wing has decent heritage work boots that are $300-400, including the moc toe, not as durable as nicks, however or customizable, and their boots aren’t the best for wide feet, and their king toe boot is a shitty boot made in Cambodia same with the rest of their non-heritage stuff. Thorogood has very good construction, almost rivals red wing in quality, and is $200-300 with many different options of boots ( imo the best for value ) I feel like anything under that $200 is simply worthless because the construction and comfort goes to shit after that with various brands.
@@quickshot4050 I stated the Keen Utility line that is ‘assembled in USA’. If you don’t have experience with those certain boots, your comment is invalid.
@@thooks1234 lmao it’s made with Chinese parts regardless they are overpriced junk, just buy thorogoods they are the same price and everything is USA made 😂
I've been working in the trades since Sept. 2020. I bought a pair of Thorogood Moc Toe boots and I'm still wearing them today. I worked as a carpenter for the first 1 1/2 years, and now as a plumber for the last 1 1/2 years. Granted my boots are really falling apart, but not bad for 3 years of daily use in construction.
Spend 13 minutes, didn't we just spend the last month (minus the weird let's build a motorcycle segment) listening to moc toe boot commentary? I got hooked on this channel for its originality and insightful comments across multiple brands and styles of boots and shoes. I feel like this channel has gone in a strange direction that is getting away from what made it good in the first place. Keep the cringy acting out of the videos, lose the sly little BS political statements, and get back to making content that gave you success in the first place.
I've been wearing Thorogoods for 3 years now and they've been great. I work at a small steel supply company and my boss gets me a new pair every year. They have jumped up in price in the last couple years though. As long as they dont start skimping on quality I'll keep buying them. I would love a pair of Nick's boots though.
I just finished off a pair of 8” moc toes that were almost 8 years old. They handled the oilfield without missing a beat. I had them resoled for $80. A week ago I bought a new pair off of eBay for $168 and free shipping. Their the most comfortable boots I’ve owned out of the box
I remember about 6 years ago I got a composite toe 8" pair of regular toe thorogoods and they were only 160. I think they've been getting popular with non working people who think it's cool to cosplay a worker, which I never got. My boots are usually off as soon as I'm at my truck, especially in summer. But even a year ago I bought the 57s and I know I didn't pay over 250 for them, cause I bought an all black mock toe also an it wasn't over $500. But anyway I will always love them. Been wearing them for 10 years, as long as I've been a tinner ... but, yeah damn those Nick's look sexy
Personally I like the Thorogoods. Made in USA and the most comfortable boots I’ve ever had. Had some redwing heritage boots in the past… I just need the comfort now that I’m older
Found the Thorogoods for $190 and saw the Carolinas for $130. If you are considering them look around now before all the raised prices have kicked in. These videos have been very helpful. Glad I found them.
Red Wing definitely deserves that S spot, being the OG, being the second best construction, but basically being half the price of the Nicks Boots. Nicks are probably amazing, but it took me years to even justify spending as much as I did on the Red Wings. Therefore I think the Nicks should be dinged because they are definitely not an every mans boot.
Well in my opinion I believe that it deserve a high A tier, although they are the ones who started it but it all comes to the quality of the boot Red wings are pretty good boots for the price point and you do get your money’s worth, Nicks on the other hand defiantly deserves that S spot hands down, all of the construction and work is put into that boot is done all by hand and you are paying for the work, the quality, and the overall construction of the boot, yes nicks are expensive but in the long run they tend to be cheaper cause an outsole good year weld replacement cost around $150 buck but the boot is still yours and they will last for a very very long time, probably don’t need another boot within probably 5-10 years time compared to synthetic materials that’s used which is only going to last about 6-18months they just wear out and just to be disposed in the bin, that’s why I’m looking into leather boots and shoes for day to day wear but has the same durability as a work boot,from me digging around to find a leather that is completely waterproof durable and comfortable without sacrificing either is shark skin leather, looking into this type of leather cause looking for a boot that i can wear all year round and not have to worry about the leather fading if it gets wet or dry out over time
yeah and its hilarious because wouldn't the value and 2nd best construction make the value rating even more higher? the reasoning for Red wing not being S seems like he just wanted to say the Nicks were the best (which is true) but with the criteria given, it just makes the red wing seem quality/cost wise one of the S tier choices here
I like the style of the nicks moc but that double stitch in the front seems excessive…is it better? Yes but they should find a way to just have one stitch since it’s more aesthetically pleasing
@@catracho135 It's a different construction, it's not about being excessive or serving a purpose, it's simply the way it has been done for hundreds of years, nothing has changed.
Thorogoods 1957s best work boot I’ve had. I’ve tried Danners, Redwings, and Thorogoods, well and carhartt and Ariat. The Thorogood 1957s are by far the best work boot I’ve owned. Got them to wear will my previous favorite redwings were getting resoled and couldn’t go back even after getting them back
I also agree. He also only keeps comparing the 875 red wing which is the heritage (dress) one against the work version. That's why "most people wear it as a casual boot"
Feels like you could resole the Nicks boots three or four times while you are still breaking them in but you can probably still wear them on your prosthetic feet once they are broken in.
I bought a pair of those carhartts in a pinch last winter because they were cheap and it was an emergency and I was pleasantly surprised. They've been relatively comfortable, almost no break in, and they're still in one piece after about 8 months.
tier a hits the spot imo. get urself a whites and a red wing and youll spend only slightly more then for the Nicks and own two amazing boots for ever and ever...
Gotta disagree with the ranking for Thorogood. I have their 8" waterproof version and even though they have a synthetic lining, they are ready for their 3rd season/resole. They will need a new welt, but only because after being resoled twice, the cobbler I normally use has ground the welt down pretty close to the boot. He only charges $40 for a resole, so I won't complain.
I have ya agree. I live in steel toe work boots. I bought a pair of red wings and didn’t like them. The quality wasn’t bad but the but after a year they were killing my feet. I’ve had thorogoods for about 5 years now and love them. I still use my first pair for doing yard work. They are brutal to break in though.
Yeah, I have had my 8” steel toe Thorogood for well over a year of almost daily use and they are the most comfy, durable boots I’ve ever had. Keep them conditioned and they’ve done incredible.
I only really have experience with the thorogoods that I wear for work. I do sheet metal and I’m pretty brutal on my boots. I would definitely rank them significantly higher on the list. I’ve never owned a work boot that’s lasted longer. Guys tried to sell me on Chippewa loggers and I thought they were terrible in comparison. But great video!
The Nick's are a brand new boot, how can you say you prefer the red wings to them when literally no one has them? I guarantee the Nicks are just better in every way than the red wings, from construction to materials to style.
I like the red wings better too. I work in my boots and $500 is just to much to pay. There is no way they can last twice as long on a job site so the value just isn't there.
I’ve worked on the cement factory floor since 1078. And I’ve worm boots every day. I started with the cheapest one I could find. I wish I could say I learned my lesson early but I can’t. But now I have and have gone threw a few of the ones you described. Mostly Thorogoods because I live in Wisconsin near where they are made. I am now wearing Nicks. And until I retire in a couple years. They are by far the best I’ve ever had. Thanks for the videos.
Im nitpicking- but the 6'' Danner bull runs sell for 210, and 220 for steel toe. The 230 price point Bull run is the "Bull Run Lux" boot- slightly thinner leather, more color options, etc. theyre 99% the same boot though. in your original Moctober Bull run boot you cut the regular moc in half, for the 1000 mile one you cut the Lux in half. Last year in your Moctober series the Bull Runs sold for 190. Danner upped their prices this year. I think at 190 its a solid deal and great US/Union made boot, but I wouldnt go much higher in price for that. AWesome video as usual!
I've had mine for 5 years now and they're still great. I worked construction for 2 of those years with them and have worn them for other jobs for the other 3 and I still love them. I've spent probably 1,700 out of those 1,800 days wearing these boots cuz they're so comfortable. They've handled getting concrete on them and long days in the rain for those first couple years. I just clean and oil them every 6 months. The only downsides are cracking of the leather and the protective toe was useless after 3 years. I paid $170 for them and would definitely buy them again at that price, but now I'm looking at these videos since they're so expensive now. I think that's the main issue he's critical about
I did a resole on my 8" tobacco thorogood boots. I think it was a little over $125 at the time and yes it's true, I could have just spent another 100 or so at the time to get new ones. Instead I wanted to preserve the break in and the patina that the new boots wouldn't offer. I did the full restoration and they came out good. The Goodyear welt is still in good condition so I think they are a step above the Carolinas.
I watched the Moctober a year ago and it got me intrigued on the MoC toe style boot. So I decided to purchase some Redwings and Thorogood’s. Having bought both brand I strongly believe Redwings are absolutely no question a top quality made boot, but I believe they are best suited for more casual wear they are a bear to break in and believe me you will have a love hate relationship with them. Thorogood’s are work ready right out of the box and I’ve wore them hard from cutting down trees to loading concrete to roofing. As far as both brands you can’t go wrong they will last both are great and that’s what it’s about. When they are dirty just dust them off clean them up add some oil and you will have a long lasting boot.
Gary, I own a pair Red Wing Moc Toe boots in wide width but they don't have wide width in Black and Navy so I am l0oking at Thorogood. How would you compare the sizing? Did you order the same size in both boots?
Love my Danners. They are incredibly comfortable and I only wear them when I ride my motorcycle. I hope they last 20 years. I have a narrow foot and Danner makes great American made boots in narrow widths that fit my foot perfectly. Love to buy a pair of Nick's but I'd be sleeping on the couch for a month.
I moved up from Danners to NIcks. Danners were good, but didn't give the support, durability, and protection I get from Nicks. It's been 17 years since I wore any Danners. A nice long couch sleeps pretty good, but you gotta know your limits. 🤣
I put thorogoods through the ringer year after year just like the majority of the other union guys I work with. Power plants, concrete, welding all the crafts and trades wear them and wear them to the bone. Comfortable is a understatement when you work 7-12s and if someone wants to give me the $500 boots I’ll wear them for a year and see what they look like. I’d like to see a review on the new origin brand that cost $300+
Russell boots - i purchased mine in 1971 - they are still in one piece. No foam insoles, no gore-tex, vibram soles, all leather, and you have to put in an insole.
Man, you’re too hard on the Thorogoods. You talk about working in some of those other sets of boots, but Thorogoods are one of the few boots listed that come in a steel toe version. Can’t wear your fancy Nick’s boots to the job site, nor would I want to at that price point.
I will say, have a pair of thorogoods qand they literally made me feel like my knee was coming out the socket. No idea why but i started wearing IRs for work instead
You can get Nicks boots with a steel or composite toe, at least in their other boots you can, and they’re literally meant as work boots. Mainly for like woodland fire fighters, loggers and linemen and people that need a boot that has as much durability as possible, but you can wear them for anything and they will probably last for multiple years working construction vs probably 9 months to a year on the thorogoods. He never took you that you’re not allowed to like them, just that they’re really not the best value for money.
Thorogood has no business being less than A. Besides Danner, it is the only one made in the US available with a steel toe and less than $300. The composite welt isn't optimal but it is a non-issue for the price. Literally just now replacing my two pairs that have had an average of 60 hours a week the past two years on them.
I disagree that the Thorogood should be in the A category. They are good work boots but not nearly good enough quality to be in that A category. I own several pairs of Thorogood and several pairs of Red Wing. I enjoy all of them. However, there is substantial differences in the quality of the Red Wing Heritage moc toe over the Thorogood. However, I will agree, that the Thorogood is a better true work boot when compared to the Red Wing Heritage moc toe, due to the fact that they are available with steel or composite toes, and they require less break-in. I will also note that I am really disappointed to see Red Wing move a lot of the production of their true work boots out of the USA. I understand why they have, but it is a shame.
I think Danner Bull Run ought to be in a higher tier. I've got a pair of Bull Run Sterling in nubuck leather and it is most comfortable on day-one. A year later, the leather is still great and it turned into a patina finish that I like. It is also of stitch down construction which can be resoled.
Completely agree, I’ve worn them (steel toe version) for the past 2 years every day. I have narrow feet and these are perfect. They are incredibly comfortable and I get compliments all the time, my feet never hurt. People are always shocked that they are a steel toe. Will be getting them resoled as the shank is coming thru on the right shoe. Has some wear on the toe from scuffs due to crawling around for my job but I’m incredibly pleased with these boots, should be higher on the list. At the time I bought these they were under $200. Much less bulky looking than red wings or thorogoods.
Nicks are definitely best looking, they’re beautiful for a mock toe, but Red Wings are S for sure, being the true origin of them all and nearly as high quality at half the price is just perfect.
I don’t even wear work boots, but growing up in Red Wing, and how much pride our town has for them (we have a museum in downtown), it makes me happy to see them rank high.
I think I would have put the Red wings in tier S, but otherwise I agree. But that's just a matter of how selective you want to be with your highest tier
Any chance u could review "Padilla boots"?....im really interested in them 100% hand made in Leon Mexico (a region known for leather craftsmanship) and under 130$
I will say this, I love my redwings. I wore my iron rangers until I walked the sole off and then had a vibrant lug sole put it. Then I wore them longer. And they’re about shot while the sole on them still has another year or two on it. I love those boots they’re super comfortable and durable but when my foot first hit my bucks builder pros it was a whole new world. I didn’t think it could get much better than the redwings but the nicks leather is a superior leather. It is thicker and heavier and just a better leather for boots. And the construction is noticeably more durable. My first redwing sole started to separate at the toe and with the stitching and screws I know that my nicks boots will never down that. For that reason I understand why the nicks are in category S but I also believe that the redwings should be there too. They are too iconic and for the average person that doesn’t wear the same boots 12 hours a day 7 days a week you will probably never have a problem with the redwings. Especially if you don’t work them too hard. I love both boots but if I was to buy one today it would be the nicks, the quality just can’t be beat. Take the first hand information I have comparing nicks and redwings after several thousand miles in both and due with it as you will. This is my 2¢, thank you for reading this, have a good evening and may good bless you.
@@bcg5175 I won’t say that he doesn’t have a bias but I also say this. Strap a nicks boots on and out your redwing or danner or whatever brand you choose on the other. There is no comparison. I believe that nicks boots are superior to redwing or danner or any other mass production boot by a large margin. Not that the other boots aren’t good, because most people don’t wear boots hard enough for it to matter. But for those of us who do wear them hard, it’s night and day difference.
@@stonewintjen505 they're also $500+. I'm sure Nick's are the best boots on the market but it's more efficient to spend $200-$300 less for a 10% loss in quality
@@dcard228 Definitely more than 10% better, nicks are minimum 50% better than thorogoods/redwings. The dollar for dollar value when broken down is likely nearly identical, i personally just bought my last pair of redwings, they werent bad but dont inspire loyalty. My nicks overlanders are 550$ but in my work would probably last me 3-3.5x as long for a boot thats twice my redwings, im saving money and wearing a better quality more comfortable boot. i'd still like to give thorogoods a try
I live in work boots 14-16 hours a day, seven days a week. Most of these appear to be casual boots when compared to what I consider a true work boot, but I work in the oil and gas industry that’s hell on boots and workwear in general. I’m sure there is work to be done in some of the boots listed here, just outside the norm of what I do. Nice video. I’m learning more all the time about what makes a truly high quality item. Cheers!
Thought you might want to know that Whites is having a semi-annual sale right now for 20% off of the Perrys. Based on your content, yesterday I bought a pair for $231.95 instead of $289.95. I felt that information may justify an increase in value in your opinion at least temporarily. Thanks for all you do!
I think the Danner should be a rank B. I've had mine for about 3 years now and they're still in great condition. (bought them just before you made the original video for them) I wear them at 5/6 days per week and couldn't be more pleased with them. In fact, I'm looking at buying the Chelsea's now so that I have a pair I can slip on if I'm running late (happens a lot) but off to watch the top 11 video you made. Appreciate the content.
Love my White's Perry moc toe. Purchased February 2021 and am very pleased. Was buying about 2 pair of Nike per year at about $80 per pair. These White's will cost more in the beginning but in the long run they might even be cheaper than Nike tennis shoes and much easier on my feet. Im a big guy (300lbs) and the Whites are perfect for me and my situation
Although I agree with most of the list, it would be nice to see the Redwing 1907 on one of the moctober episodes. I purchased that model instead of the 875 simply so I could have removable/replaceable insoles since working on concrete wears my insoles out very quickly.
What about Grant Stone’s moc toe boot, the brass boot? I really thought you’d review it. It’s quite some time since it was released and there a lot of hype around it in the heritage boot community.
@@Kingfisher1215 you could use the same argument on Res Wing’s, Whites’s and Nicks’s boots, but those are on this list… what I say is that GS should have been at least reviewed for the sake of just comparing what’s on the market
@@joseluisveragarcia1675 no you literally can’t lmaooo, red wing, nicks, and whites were originally and still are mainly work boot oriented and have solid construction methods as a result.
1907 is a better model than the 875. I think you should also include availability as a criteria which from my experience with Nicks means it will tale probably a year or more to get your boot if you want it fitted.
Thank you for your videos. I am looking for new work boots. The number one thing I look for is American made. I have always gotten Thorogood boots in the past. They seam to be the standard in my trade. I have had problems with them stretching on the outside from the way I walk and wondering what else was out there. I had never heard of whites boots before but I am definitely going to check them out.
I have the Thursdays, and while I wish they ranked an A, I think the criticism is fair. since I use them as casual boots, and not work boots (I'm a public health worker, not on a factory floor or anything) I think I am pretty satisfied. Thanks for the cut-open! I'm a fan of Thursdays, if only because I used to love Red Wing, but they don't make Mens boots in my tiny size (6.5)
I’ve had my thorogood boots for and about a year and a half and it’s the best and most comfortable I had. Wear daily. Had red wings but they never felt right which is weird because everyone recommended them and they only lasted me less then a year in my field of work. And I’m still not due for a pair of boots for a while. If they raise the price of the thorogood I’m more them happy to pay
I think Danners should be in at least the B category... Personally i think they are more comfortable than Red Wings with no other downfalls. Plus they have a shank. Like them much better than Thorogoods too, they just look cooler.
I have just absolutely run through my danner moc toes. 3 months in and sole is coming apart and I can see my sock where the stitching has failed. We're my first pair so I was excited, the do look good though.
@@TheGolfCellar You put some heavy wear I'm assuming? Some people do the same with Red Wings and the outsole doesn't last past a couple of months. Sucks to hear the stitching issue but casual wear in a rotation then its not so bad. I see them for under $200 at retail btw
Where would you put the RW 1907’s ? I’ve been a 875 wearer up until I purchased a pair of 1907. I wear them for work and they seem to be considerably more comfortable and durable than any of the $200- and under boots I’ve tried over the past 2 decades. I’m not so much a brand loyalist as a quality vs price loyalist. If I find a better $300 boot that is made in USA I would switch. Until RW starts paying me😉
Low key kind of mad nicks didn’t have a moc toe until recently. I purchased the whites perry about a year ago and I love them! However, the build of the nicks is by far superior to the rest. I guess I saved a few hundo though!
I’m kind of in the same boat. However, I personally would’ve still bought the white’s. That prices jump is pretty significant, and the difference in quality isn’t.
@@joelfigueroa1309 The Nicks are definitely unique! I kind of appreciate how different they are from all of the others. I don’t regret purchasing my Perry’s. Most comfortable, durable, and protective pair of slippers that I’ve ever had. Seriously comfortable once broken in!
@@jivon14 That’s a good point! The only think I don’t like about my Whites is that my soles are coming apart. I must’ve gotten a pair from the early run. I don’t really like the Christie soles. I’m planning on having a lug sole out on when I get them resoled. Other than the soles, I love them shits!
I personally think the Whites, Red Wing, and Nick's should be in the same tier. I understand the S tier should really only be for "the best overall single boot", but the pricepoint on the Nick's skews the Quality / Cost equation to make them even with the White's and Red Wing. Nothing bad to say about them as I agree they're one of the nicest looking boots and quality of materials is likely the best, but that price tag really makes me happy I went with the White's Perry. A few weeks into breaking my White's in and I feel like I'm walking on clouds.
in regards to the value, i think the Nick's ranks higher because they're still built to be worked in comfortably for years, whereas the RW wouldn't be so comfortable going up and down ladders for years.
I picked up my Whites Perry last year on Black Friday. Saved some money and love the boots. The only thing I would advise; they tell you to size down 1/2 size from your brannock scale size. If you like a roomy toe stay with the brannock size or what I call you dress shoe size.
Wearing Lems right now. I will say that they've held up really well for me. I'm a heavy guy, I go through footwear pretty fast. I've worn these for work 5 days a week for a year and they're still ok. Worn, but ok. I'll probably get a few more months out of them and honestly for the price I'm happy with it. I'd like to see more barefoot shoes/boots!
the redwings in my opinion are more a work boot and for the price point vs the nicks and the over all build I feel they are a better value and I would put them in S
I never see this mentioned, so I’ll share my experience. Working as an apprentice electrician, I had to push heavy cargo carts all day. Moc-toe stitching binds the top of metatarsal area as boot bends, causing painful restrictions with every step. Stitches are not designed to stretch like leather. Smoothe round toes are much more practical for a genuine worker’s boot, and make more sense...unless you’re a boot fashion model.
That is an interesting problem to have with boots. The only certain thing about boots is that everyone will prefer a different boot for their feet and job. I love my moc toe boots and have tried tons of different boots over the years. At the end of the day wear what's comfortable for you and good luck with your apprenticeship, I started my electrical apprenticeship 13 years ago and it's been a great career. There are so many variations in the electrical industry that it's easy to find a job that suits you.
My first year did lots of cart moving in Moc toe. By month 9..both stitches on the top metatarsal area of both boots had snapped. I think you're on to something
I wear boots for work so comfort is a big deal for me. I've had Redwings, danners and thorogoods. In my opinion, Redwings require a lot of break in which includes blisters and pain lol. I'll stick with thorogoods all day! Just bought a second pair, I highly recommended them. The vibrim wedge soles don't last long but that's to be expected.
I love my danners. Just bought 2nd pair. Mostly to wear for looks. But so comfortable. Wear them daily doing residential construction on Oregon coast. They've stood up in super wet and muddy conditions. If I were to get different boots it'd be some more aggressive tread
I've had the Danner Moc Toe for about two years of near daily wear. I'm not too hard on them, since I treat them as everyday wear boots rather than work boots. I have run in them playing kickball games with the kids (can't recommend, due to the lack of tread, trust me). They are some of the most comfortable shoes I own, and hands down the most comfortable boots, even after two years. I have some wear on the insoles, and that's about it. The tread has minor wear, but I don't drag my feet like a lot of people who wear boots seem to. I got them on sale when I bought them though, so it was a fantastic deal. Leather still looks great, even with only occasional dusting off (I should probably take better care of them). My sole has turned tan when it used to be white though because I live in the country and am not afraid to walk in grass. It is unfortunate that the non-sale price has gone up $40 since I bought mine, though. Hope this helps.
Great lineup. Maybe future tests could include the Timberland Gridworks, Timberland Wedge, and the Alden Indy. The Alden is as pricey, if not more depending on materials, as the Nicks.
For comfort only I love my Danner mocs. They're probably the most sneaker-like boot I've tried, very cushioned and extremely comfortable. The biggest issue I found was the soles being made of a very porous foam-like material which sucks up water and dirt so if you're working inside they'll make your floor filthy. The leather is also quite thin and will look old and beat up after a year or so of regular use.
Love these videos. Super honest, nothing hidden when cut in half and explained by a man that knows boot construction. And I bought your Nicks boots! Thats how good the videos are. Can’t wait to get them!
You should define "work" because the rock rooster boots with the actual welt and real upper and ok inner for $105 are the best boot for the average American. Also, you should think about "a good price" wording because I live in Oregon and we have minimum wage higher then most states non minimum wage job, like a mill worker in Mississippi makes less then a lawn care worker in Oregon making all the boots you mention too expensive for their Mississippi "work" as you put it. Not to mention you could outfit a whole work crew in rock rooster for the price of one Nicks...I'm not dissing nicks, they're the best boot, but nicks is a specialty boot company. You should say...if you are a line utility person or concrete worker..or asphalt layer in Washington state buy the nicks, If you are the same profession in say Idaho with less pay buy Carolina; other then that rock rooster. Daner, whites and others had their day in the sun and made their money and now time and technology have caught up making the product obsolete and reduced them to hipster boots. Carhart died in the early 2000's after a long battle in the 90's R.I.P
your right i work in slurry seal and southern cali i use diehards best boots for me sears used to have on fathers day $50 for boots id buy 4/5 pairs every fathers day or black Friday now that sears closed i think ima look into roosters because i have redwings but they are not comfortable at all they might be built right but i can only wear them for 4hrs max before my dawgs need a rest iv worked 18hrs in my diehards and felt like i had pillows on my feet
I’ve had the Thursday’s for about 2 1/2 years now. Only really wear them in Fall - Winter but they’ve held up incredibly well. I don’t work a trade job (anymore) so the more refined look, easy break in period, and overall plush feeling is perfect for me.
Didn't expected the Lems but glad to see them get a mention! I love my Lems (roomy toe box for my wide feet) but you hit all the cons. I also have issues busting the stitching of the toe box with the beating I put them through 😅
What about the Sears Diehard boots? I have seen a lot of these boots worn on the construction site and some folks would never buy anything else. I know they are not a tier S, just curious how the match with others.
Great video! No big surprises but still helpful to get an overview and comparison. How about a "leather hiking boot" themed series? I've seen reviews of hiking shoes in the short term but never a true quality assessment. I find your cutting sessions truly informative and helpful! :)
I don’t know if I can move on from the thorogood moctoes. Been wearing them for 6 years. On my feet on concrete 8-12 hours a day and never have any issues. My biggest complaint is I wear the soles out in about a year.
Even before watching the video I knew the Nick's would be in tier S. Also I don't understand how a boot with a $500 price tag gets such a high value score, but I guess that's the Nick's bias. Also, I've had my Lem's Boulder Boots for almost 2 years and have done hundreds (if nota few thousand) miles in them, and while they may not be durable for actual work, they're unbeatable for actual hiking, which you wouldn't do in any of these other boots, so I think that ranking was a bit unfair.
If you paid attention for how he defined each tier it would be obvious. He's not measuring them by bang for buck in S teir. S tier is specifically premium boots. Premium products have premium price tags.
I am glad you enjoy your Lem's (Have heard a lot of good things about them), but I would just like to state: I absolutely would take my White's moc toes hiking.
I love my Lem’s Boots too and think they are a great product! But barefoot style boots are not going to score great on these specific categories. They need a very flexible sole and no midsole so they just aren’t going to have the durability. They need a really wide toe box which has many benefits but also looks funny. There’s nothing sleek about them. Value struggles in that they are not meant to last as long as work boots as they want tactile feedback and more minimal construction. So I think they are a great product but their benefits weren’t really criteria on this specific test. Lems plays an entirely different game than these others.
I think you’re spot on. I just purchased my first pair of Thorogood’s. Will soon find out. My red wings with the commando soul last 10 years and then I sold them for the same price that I purchased them for.
The one thing you are missing in this comparison are safety/ steel toe/ comp. toe boots. Because OSHA is regulating safety toe / heel type more in some construction trades. But other wise a good informative video. Cheers
What's with the lack of Georgia boot reviews? Their moc has a great price, is made in America, and the marketing material makes it sound like it's every bit as good or better than thorogood's. I love mine, but what's inside?
I was gonna ask the same thing. I have a cheapo pair of Georgias that I’m looking to upgrade and I’m cross shopping Georgia and Thorogood. I’m really leaning towards the thorogoods just because I’ve heard so many good things about them but with my wide-ass caveman feet, I know my Georgias fit and it’s hard to walk away from that
@@kevinmiller4312 I've had Georgia, Thorogood, and Redwing moc toes- and my preference is definitely towards Thorogood and Redwing. Although I do have a pair of Georgia boot loggers that have held up to some insane conditions and feel almost like heavy slippers lol
have worn moc toe boots for 30+ years. Started with the Sears Craftsman's back in the day. Then switched Thorogoods. They fit good and last a long time. Never had an issue with them. At the end of the day and home I often let them on since they still felt good on.
Bought a pair of Whites after watching last year’s Moctober. Nicks boots look awesome but the Whites are great for me. Maybe I’ll get a pair of Nicks in a few years.
I think thorogoods are an A tier, I love mine, and I’m the 1000mile video even though the Goodyear was cracked everything was still held together. I think they are better than Carolinas, maybe a B and a half tier. Lol
@@dennisnordlund902 I get it, but if it’s still functioning and holding together after a lot of use, it doesn’t matter. And when it gets to the point, thorogood will resole and replace almost everything except the upper for 125$
From a working stand point. I’ve never a pair of red wings last longer than ten months. I bout my first pair of thorogoods last June and they are still in good shape. I’d personally flip those two because of that. Love the look of both tho
currently shopping around for a pair of boots for longevity and tbh those moc toe red wings we're speakin to me, glad to know they're as good as they look
My local Red Wing store didn't have any moc toe boots made in the USA, only from Vietnam and Cambodia at just about the same price. Easy way to get more money out of unsuspecting folks that don't pay attention.
I understand why Nicks is in the 'S' tier exclusively, but if you gave me $600 free dollars to spend on boots, I'd buy two pairs of the White's moc toes. I have 2 pairs, and absolutely love them. I work in my family's construction business by day, and work on a ranch the rest of the time. There is no more perfect boot then the 8" black moc toe by White's. Whatever the situation, whether it be shopping, chasing cows or donkey surfing (long story), working, chores out of trailer on an ATV in the middle of nowhere, they are never out of place and the comfort is sublime. How long they can take to lace up versus my Thursdays or Jim Greens would be the only argument against them, but that's just what you get for a boot of it's size regardless of manufacturer.
My Danners have easily survived warehouse work. I not only wear them but use them as a mallet, kicking boxes and pallets. They have also survived my home use digging and fence building. I followed your cleaning video today and they look great, with a few surface cuts and scuffs for character. I think I paid $175.
I just randomly came into this because it popped up for me. I can't speak from a casual lifestyle, but I can speak from a purely Industrial/Work setting where we get to chose the boots we want and I've tried a couple on the list (steel toed) and I have to go with Danner. They've held up for me well, I get no questions about the price when I buy a new pair every year or so(Company dime), they break in fast and allow me to get back to work in record times with no discomfort. I dont lace up all the way at first but after the first couple of days I'm able to and they're great. Emotional attachment is hit or miss with me. THe boots that still look good after a year or so I take home with me and use them for homestead stuff, but otherwise I dont feel bad when I toss them and get a new pair. Over the years they've been light enough for me to perform well, durable enough to stand the seasons, and I'm not heartbroken if something bad happens to them. I'm kjicking with them, using the steel toe as leverage points. They're scored and cut and mangled and still are able to perform well. I get having nice thick leather that will last a lifetime and mold to my foot but I dont expect any boot I own to last 5 years in what I do. I expect to throw them on, beat them up adn take them off and when I get a new pair to have little to no downtime. Danner is pretty good for those.
Just bought my first pairs of Red Wing Moc Toe and Iron Ranger. Waiting to put on a coat of oil before I wear them. Your videos were my way of learning about them.
I’m a supervisor for Home Depot and I use the carhart boots frequently and they aren’t anywhere near as bad as you say they are… in my opinion…. Of course if you work at a steel mill or construction I wouldn’t recommend them but they do the job in a retail environment or even to be out and about…. Cleaning them are annoying tho
I always disagree with your opinions on Thorogood. In my honest opinion they are the epitome of comfort and durability. Price is whatever you pay an arm and a leg for everything nowadays, but off the shelf they require almost no break in period to be a comfortable boot, something you can step in and work a 10 hour day no problem. I enjoy mocktober but this scale seems to be based ultimately on a formula I have an issue with.
I bought a pair of red wings after watching your channel for a while. They are the most comfortable boots/shoes ever once they broke in. I prefer them to my sneakers any day of the week
Tried my first thorogood 7-8 years ago and will never buy anything else now, luckily I live an hour from the factory and pick them up for $70-$90 a pair usually buy 3-4 at a time.
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Need a "Best Work Boots" video series specifically for people who work in the trades or are on their feet 8+ hours per day, often in harsh environments. All types of work boots. I think this would be a popular series for you. Tradespeople drop serious money on footwear. It's hard to know who are cutting corners like Carhartt until you've wasted your cash.
Not many people would wear or like these, but for ROUGH, HARSH environment (kneeling with toes on the concrete/dirt, welding, wet/mud/57 stone/gravel/etc.), needing a steel toe with comfort on concrete 8-10 hours a day, the Keen Utility US Made boots with steel toe, large rubber toe box cover, Gortex lining, etc., are tough to beat. They aren't cheap but will last 14-18 months in these harsh conditions, provide protection, comfort and meet OSHA requirements. They don't meet the heel for ladder climbing, tho. Most tradesmen I know wear the square toe, steel toe pull-up boots and they get 12-14 months out of them.
@@thooks1234 keen is overpriced Chinese garbage, it’s red wing priced for Walmart quality it’s a terrible brand.
Nicks has the best work boot in the world with the toughest leather and toughest construction with their max-wear boot, however it costs $550-700, Red Wing has decent heritage work boots that are $300-400, including the moc toe, not as durable as nicks, however or customizable, and their boots aren’t the best for wide feet, and their king toe boot is a shitty boot made in Cambodia same with the rest of their non-heritage stuff. Thorogood has very good construction, almost rivals red wing in quality, and is $200-300 with many different options of boots ( imo the best for value ) I feel like anything under that $200 is simply worthless because the construction and comfort goes to shit after that with various brands.
@@quickshot4050 I stated the Keen Utility line that is ‘assembled in USA’. If you don’t have experience with those certain boots, your comment is invalid.
@@thooks1234 lmao it’s made with Chinese parts regardless they are overpriced junk, just buy thorogoods they are the same price and everything is USA made 😂
I've been working in the trades since Sept. 2020. I bought a pair of Thorogood Moc Toe boots and I'm still wearing them today. I worked as a carpenter for the first 1 1/2 years, and now as a plumber for the last 1 1/2 years. Granted my boots are really falling apart, but not bad for 3 years of daily use in construction.
Mine are going on 3 yrs too and they are holding really well being in the bodywork trade. I bought another pair because I loved them so much
I’ve been wearing my thorogoods as a diesel mechanic apprentice so far so good they feel super comfy
if you think i'm going to spend 13 minutes listening to commentary about moc toe boots you're absolutely right
Lol mood
Spend 13 minutes, didn't we just spend the last month (minus the weird let's build a motorcycle segment) listening to moc toe boot commentary? I got hooked on this channel for its originality and insightful comments across multiple brands and styles of boots and shoes. I feel like this channel has gone in a strange direction that is getting away from what made it good in the first place. Keep the cringy acting out of the videos, lose the sly little BS political statements, and get back to making content that gave you success in the first place.
I’m with ya
@@nordb0242 Agree!
I laughed
I've been working with Whites for years and have red wings as backups
I accidentally stumbled on your channel, and Now I’m a boot snob with opinions.
I've been wearing Thorogoods for 3 years now and they've been great. I work at a small steel supply company and my boss gets me a new pair every year. They have jumped up in price in the last couple years though. As long as they dont start skimping on quality I'll keep buying them. I would love a pair of Nick's boots though.
I just finished off a pair of 8” moc toes that were almost 8 years old. They handled the oilfield without missing a beat. I had them resoled for $80. A week ago I bought a new pair off of eBay for $168 and free shipping. Their the most comfortable boots I’ve owned out of the box
@@SuperFlowback best stock insoles I've ever felt in a moc too. Or any footwear for that matter
@@ETconehome I replaced the stock ones in mine for Superfeet inserts, but I just needed more arch support. But man those Thorogoods are comfortable.
I remember about 6 years ago I got a composite toe 8" pair of regular toe thorogoods and they were only 160. I think they've been getting popular with non working people who think it's cool to cosplay a worker, which I never got. My boots are usually off as soon as I'm at my truck, especially in summer. But even a year ago I bought the 57s and I know I didn't pay over 250 for them, cause I bought an all black mock toe also an it wasn't over $500. But anyway I will always love them. Been wearing them for 10 years, as long as I've been a tinner ... but, yeah damn those Nick's look sexy
Just got a pair of Thorogoods. Most comfortable boot I’ve had since I was in the Marine Corps.
Personally I like the Thorogoods. Made in USA and the most comfortable boots I’ve ever had. Had some redwing heritage boots in the past… I just need the comfort now that I’m older
Found the Thorogoods for $190 and saw the Carolinas for $130. If you are considering them look around now before all the raised prices have kicked in. These videos have been very helpful. Glad I found them.
Red Wing definitely deserves that S spot, being the OG, being the second best construction, but basically being half the price of the Nicks Boots. Nicks are probably amazing, but it took me years to even justify spending as much as I did on the Red Wings. Therefore I think the Nicks should be dinged because they are definitely not an every mans boot.
Well in my opinion I believe that it deserve a high A tier, although they are the ones who started it but it all comes to the quality of the boot Red wings are pretty good boots for the price point and you do get your money’s worth, Nicks on the other hand defiantly deserves that S spot hands down, all of the construction and work is put into that boot is done all by hand and you are paying for the work, the quality, and the overall construction of the boot, yes nicks are expensive but in the long run they tend to be cheaper cause an outsole good year weld replacement cost around $150 buck but the boot is still yours and they will last for a very very long time, probably don’t need another boot within probably 5-10 years time compared to synthetic materials that’s used which is only going to last about 6-18months they just wear out and just to be disposed in the bin, that’s why I’m looking into leather boots and shoes for day to day wear but has the same durability as a work boot,from me digging around to find a leather that is completely waterproof durable and comfortable without sacrificing either is shark skin leather, looking into this type of leather cause looking for a boot that i can wear all year round and not have to worry about the leather fading if it gets wet or dry out over time
I'd get Red Wings - even though I'm a Nicks fan - problem is they don't make boots in a wide size - so they lost my business :(
yeah and its hilarious because wouldn't the value and 2nd best construction make the value rating even more higher? the reasoning for Red wing not being S seems like he just wanted to say the Nicks were the best (which is true) but with the criteria given, it just makes the red wing seem quality/cost wise one of the S tier choices here
I like the style of the nicks moc but that double stitch in the front seems excessive…is it better? Yes but they should find a way to just have one stitch since it’s more aesthetically pleasing
@@catracho135 It's a different construction, it's not about being excessive or serving a purpose, it's simply the way it has been done for hundreds of years, nothing has changed.
Thorogoods 1957s best work boot I’ve had. I’ve tried Danners, Redwings, and Thorogoods, well and carhartt and Ariat. The Thorogood 1957s are by far the best work boot I’ve owned. Got them to wear will my previous favorite redwings were getting resoled and couldn’t go back even after getting them back
When factoring value, I think Red Wing and Whites should also be in S but that also misses the durability aspect with the Nicks
I agree, or put Nicks in A simply because at twice the price the value aspect of them is nowhere near the Red Wings or Whites.
I also agree. He also only keeps comparing the 875 red wing which is the heritage (dress) one against the work version. That's why "most people wear it as a casual boot"
Feels like you could resole the Nicks boots three or four times while you are still breaking them in but you can probably still wear them on your prosthetic feet once they are broken in.
I think thorogoods are better than Redwings.
@@jmledesma88 bahah exactly. For that price they should be comfortable out the gate!
I bought a pair of those carhartts in a pinch last winter because they were cheap and it was an emergency and I was pleasantly surprised. They've been relatively comfortable, almost no break in, and they're still in one piece after about 8 months.
Just got some too, curious on how long they’ll last.
tier a hits the spot imo. get urself a whites and a red wing and youll spend only slightly more then for the Nicks and own two amazing boots for ever and ever...
Or just one or the other. And use the savings for resoles down the road.
Do not buy the White's, White's has moved them out of the work boot category on their website and are generally refusing to rebuild them
Gotta disagree with the ranking for Thorogood. I have their 8" waterproof version and even though they have a synthetic lining, they are ready for their 3rd season/resole. They will need a new welt, but only because after being resoled twice, the cobbler I normally use has ground the welt down pretty close to the boot. He only charges $40 for a resole, so I won't complain.
I have ya agree. I live in steel toe work boots. I bought a pair of red wings and didn’t like them. The quality wasn’t bad but the but after a year they were killing my feet. I’ve had thorogoods for about 5 years now and love them. I still use my first pair for doing yard work. They are brutal to break in though.
@@spencerhicks5697 my break in wasn't terrible. Some blistering but I chalk that up having weird feet.
@@spencerhicks5697 ya wasn't that bad for me either. The right felt a little more narrow at first
Yeah, I have had my 8” steel toe Thorogood for well over a year of almost daily use and they are the most comfy, durable boots I’ve ever had. Keep them conditioned and they’ve done incredible.
I only really have experience with the thorogoods that I wear for work. I do sheet metal and I’m pretty brutal on my boots. I would definitely rank them significantly higher on the list. I’ve never owned a work boot that’s lasted longer. Guys tried to sell me on Chippewa loggers and I thought they were terrible in comparison. But great video!
I have three pairs of Thorogoods and they are so comfortable to work in. Wonderful boots.
Which would be good for a Truck Driver? Something that will be comfortable.
I like the red wings better than nicks. Especially for the price.
I still have my redwings I bought in 2001. $176 dollars back then.
The Nick's are a brand new boot, how can you say you prefer the red wings to them when literally no one has them? I guarantee the Nicks are just better in every way than the red wings, from construction to materials to style.
I like the red wings better too. I work in my boots and $500 is just to much to pay. There is no way they can last twice as long on a job site so the value just isn't there.
@@W1ldt1m how long does your red wing boots last? Thorogood boots last for me a year but the price went up & I'm looking for a more durable boot.
If you get the Red Wings make sure you spend 10 bucks more and get the 1907 Mocs. You get a storm welt and leather insole for only $10 more 👍
@@clb9935 I guarantee they aren't over $200 better than the Red Wings
I’ve worked on the cement factory floor since 1078. And I’ve worm boots every day. I started with the cheapest one I could find. I wish I could say I learned my lesson early but I can’t. But now I have and have gone threw a few of the ones you described. Mostly Thorogoods because I live in Wisconsin near where they are made. I am now wearing Nicks. And until I retire in a couple years. They are by far the best I’ve ever had. Thanks for the videos.
944 years of employment...now that's dedication!
Im nitpicking- but the 6'' Danner bull runs sell for 210, and 220 for steel toe. The 230 price point Bull run is the "Bull Run Lux" boot- slightly thinner leather, more color options, etc. theyre 99% the same boot though. in your original Moctober Bull run boot you cut the regular moc in half, for the 1000 mile one you cut the Lux in half.
Last year in your Moctober series the Bull Runs sold for 190. Danner upped their prices this year. I think at 190 its a solid deal and great US/Union made boot, but I wouldnt go much higher in price for that.
AWesome video as usual!
I just can't help but feel like you consistently underrate Thorogoods.
it’s fair enough due to the fact that corners have to be cut to get to its price point.
I've had mine for 5 years now and they're still great. I worked construction for 2 of those years with them and have worn them for other jobs for the other 3 and I still love them. I've spent probably 1,700 out of those 1,800 days wearing these boots cuz they're so comfortable. They've handled getting concrete on them and long days in the rain for those first couple years. I just clean and oil them every 6 months. The only downsides are cracking of the leather and the protective toe was useless after 3 years. I paid $170 for them and would definitely buy them again at that price, but now I'm looking at these videos since they're so expensive now. I think that's the main issue he's critical about
I did a resole on my 8" tobacco thorogood boots. I think it was a little over $125 at the time and yes it's true, I could have just spent another 100 or so at the time to get new ones. Instead I wanted to preserve the break in and the patina that the new boots wouldn't offer. I did the full restoration and they came out good. The Goodyear welt is still in good condition so I think they are a step above the Carolinas.
Did they put the Vibrams on or the Maxwear Wedge soles?
I was wondering if you ever rated the Keen San Jose mock toe. I have them and I think they are a very good boot. Thanks
I watched the Moctober a year ago and it got me intrigued on the MoC toe style boot. So I decided to purchase some Redwings and Thorogood’s. Having bought both brand I strongly believe Redwings are absolutely no question a top quality made boot, but I believe they are best suited for more casual wear they are a bear to break in and believe me you will have a love hate relationship with them. Thorogood’s are work ready right out of the box and I’ve wore them hard from cutting down trees to loading concrete to roofing. As far as both brands you can’t go wrong they will last both are great and that’s what it’s about. When they are dirty just dust them off clean them up add some oil and you will have a long lasting boot.
Agreed yours is the best comment on this page.
Gary, I own a pair Red Wing Moc Toe boots in wide width but they don't have wide width in Black and Navy so I am l0oking at Thorogood. How would you compare the sizing? Did you order the same size in both boots?
Love my Danners. They are incredibly comfortable and I only wear them when I ride my motorcycle. I hope they last 20 years. I have a narrow foot and Danner makes great American made boots in narrow widths that fit my foot perfectly. Love to buy a pair of Nick's but I'd be sleeping on the couch for a month.
I moved up from Danners to NIcks. Danners were good, but didn't give the support, durability, and protection I get from Nicks. It's been 17 years since I wore any Danners. A nice long couch sleeps pretty good, but you gotta know your limits. 🤣
I put thorogoods through the ringer year after year just like the majority of the other union guys I work with. Power plants, concrete, welding all the crafts and trades wear them and wear them to the bone. Comfortable is a understatement when you work 7-12s and if someone wants to give me the $500 boots I’ll wear them for a year and see what they look like. I’d like to see a review on the new origin brand that cost $300+
That would be great to have a video series of long term work boot tests by ppl who work in factories construction etc
Russell boots - i purchased mine in 1971 - they are still in one piece. No foam insoles, no gore-tex, vibram soles, all leather, and you have to put in an insole.
Man, you’re too hard on the Thorogoods. You talk about working in some of those other sets of boots, but Thorogoods are one of the few boots listed that come in a steel toe version. Can’t wear your fancy Nick’s boots to the job site, nor would I want to at that price point.
I will say, have a pair of thorogoods qand they literally made me feel like my knee was coming out the socket. No idea why but i started wearing IRs for work instead
You can get Nicks boots with a steel or composite toe, at least in their other boots you can, and they’re literally meant as work boots. Mainly for like woodland fire fighters, loggers and linemen and people that need a boot that has as much durability as possible, but you can wear them for anything and they will probably last for multiple years working construction vs probably 9 months to a year on the thorogoods. He never took you that you’re not allowed to like them, just that they’re really not the best value for money.
Thorogood boot are my favorite.
The Danner comes in safety toes and in my opinion a better boot than Thorogood. Or at least as good.
Bro that’s what I’m saying. I would love to wear the Red Wings to work but in todays day they have to be safety toe. That’s why I go Thorogood
Please do more of these tier list rankings! They are actually very helpful for us consumers I feel
Love my Thorogoods. Been wearing them for 4 ish years as a work boot. Definitely agree with the B rating, best bang for the buck.
Would love to see where the keen Cincinnati soft toe mic boot would rank they are 190 and extremely comfortable and have a really good look to them
Good point.
Thorogood has no business being less than A. Besides Danner, it is the only one made in the US available with a steel toe and less than $300. The composite welt isn't optimal but it is a non-issue for the price. Literally just now replacing my two pairs that have had an average of 60 hours a week the past two years on them.
I disagree that the Thorogood should be in the A category. They are good work boots but not nearly good enough quality to be in that A category. I own several pairs of Thorogood and several pairs of Red Wing. I enjoy all of them. However, there is substantial differences in the quality of the Red Wing Heritage moc toe over the Thorogood. However, I will agree, that the Thorogood is a better true work boot when compared to the Red Wing Heritage moc toe, due to the fact that they are available with steel or composite toes, and they require less break-in. I will also note that I am really disappointed to see Red Wing move a lot of the production of their true work boots out of the USA. I understand why they have, but it is a shame.
Carolina boots are made in the US…
Could you do a review on Gravel Gear moc-toe work-boots? They are around 90 dollars so it would be interesting to see how they are constructed.
I think Danner Bull Run ought to be in a higher tier. I've got a pair of Bull Run Sterling in nubuck leather and it is most comfortable on day-one. A year later, the leather is still great and it turned into a patina finish that I like. It is also of stitch down construction which can be resoled.
Agreed
Completely agree, I’ve worn them (steel toe version) for the past 2 years every day. I have narrow feet and these are perfect. They are incredibly comfortable and I get compliments all the time, my feet never hurt. People are always shocked that they are a steel toe. Will be getting them resoled as the shank is coming thru on the right shoe. Has some wear on the toe from scuffs due to crawling around for my job but I’m incredibly pleased with these boots, should be higher on the list. At the time I bought these they were under $200. Much less bulky looking than red wings or thorogoods.
Nicks are definitely best looking, they’re beautiful for a mock toe, but Red Wings are S for sure, being the true origin of them all and nearly as high quality at half the price is just perfect.
I don’t even wear work boots, but growing up in Red Wing, and how much pride our town has for them (we have a museum in downtown), it makes me happy to see them rank high.
If you are doing a review on budget work boots again, could you please include the Carolina GRAVEL COMP TOE Style #: CA4558? Thank you, sir. 👍👍
I think I would have put the Red wings in tier S, but otherwise I agree. But that's just a matter of how selective you want to be with your highest tier
Any chance u could review "Padilla boots"?....im really interested in them 100% hand made in Leon Mexico (a region known for leather craftsmanship) and under 130$
I will say this, I love my redwings. I wore my iron rangers until I walked the sole off and then had a vibrant lug sole put it. Then I wore them longer. And they’re about shot while the sole on them still has another year or two on it. I love those boots they’re super comfortable and durable but when my foot first hit my bucks builder pros it was a whole new world. I didn’t think it could get much better than the redwings but the nicks leather is a superior leather. It is thicker and heavier and just a better leather for boots. And the construction is noticeably more durable. My first redwing sole started to separate at the toe and with the stitching and screws I know that my nicks boots will never down that. For that reason I understand why the nicks are in category S but I also believe that the redwings should be there too. They are too iconic and for the average person that doesn’t wear the same boots 12 hours a day 7 days a week you will probably never have a problem with the redwings. Especially if you don’t work them too hard. I love both boots but if I was to buy one today it would be the nicks, the quality just can’t be beat.
Take the first hand information I have comparing nicks and redwings after several thousand miles in both and due with it as you will. This is my 2¢, thank you for reading this, have a good evening and may good bless you.
he’s acknowledged he’s been shilling for them, they’re his sponsor, he’s not objective
@@bcg5175 I won’t say that he doesn’t have a bias but I also say this. Strap a nicks boots on and out your redwing or danner or whatever brand you choose on the other. There is no comparison. I believe that nicks boots are superior to redwing or danner or any other mass production boot by a large margin. Not that the other boots aren’t good, because most people don’t wear boots hard enough for it to matter. But for those of us who do wear them hard, it’s night and day difference.
@@stonewintjen505 they're also $500+. I'm sure Nick's are the best boots on the market but it's more efficient to spend $200-$300 less for a 10% loss in quality
@@dcard228 Definitely more than 10% better, nicks are minimum 50% better than thorogoods/redwings. The dollar for dollar value when broken down is likely nearly identical, i personally just bought my last pair of redwings, they werent bad but dont inspire loyalty. My nicks overlanders are 550$ but in my work would probably last me 3-3.5x as long for a boot thats twice my redwings, im saving money and wearing a better quality more comfortable boot. i'd still like to give thorogoods a try
I live in work boots 14-16 hours a day, seven days a week. Most of these appear to be casual boots when compared to what I consider a true work boot, but I work in the oil and gas industry that’s hell on boots and workwear in general. I’m sure there is work to be done in some of the boots listed here, just outside the norm of what I do. Nice video. I’m learning more all the time about what makes a truly high quality item. Cheers!
Thought you might want to know that Whites is having a semi-annual sale right now for 20% off of the Perrys. Based on your content, yesterday I bought a pair for $231.95 instead of $289.95. I felt that information may justify an increase in value in your opinion at least temporarily. Thanks for all you do!
I think the Danner should be a rank B. I've had mine for about 3 years now and they're still in great condition. (bought them just before you made the original video for them) I wear them at 5/6 days per week and couldn't be more pleased with them. In fact, I'm looking at buying the Chelsea's now so that I have a pair I can slip on if I'm running late (happens a lot) but off to watch the top 11 video you made. Appreciate the content.
I personally like the thorogoods the best. Best all round look, durability and Comfortability for how much your paying
Love my White's Perry moc toe. Purchased February 2021 and am very pleased. Was buying about 2 pair of Nike per year at about $80 per pair. These White's will cost more in the beginning but in the long run they might even be cheaper than Nike tennis shoes and much easier on my feet. Im a big guy (300lbs) and the Whites are perfect for me and my situation
Although I agree with most of the list, it would be nice to see the Redwing 1907 on one of the moctober episodes. I purchased that model instead of the 875 simply so I could have removable/replaceable insoles since working on concrete wears my insoles out very quickly.
I have Timberland moc-toe boots. They seem to be a good boot. I'd love to see were they fall on this list.
What about Grant Stone’s moc toe boot, the brass boot?
I really thought you’d review it. It’s quite some time since it was released and there a lot of hype around it in the heritage boot community.
@@Kingfisher1215 you could use the same argument on Res Wing’s, Whites’s and Nicks’s boots, but those are on this list… what I say is that GS should have been at least reviewed for the sake of just comparing what’s on the market
@@joseluisveragarcia1675 no you literally can’t lmaooo, red wing, nicks, and whites were originally and still are mainly work boot oriented and have solid construction methods as a result.
Came here to say this.
Looking back from a year in the future the White's went from $269 to $399!!! ouch.
1907 is a better model than the 875. I think you should also include availability as a criteria which from my experience with Nicks means it will tale probably a year or more to get your boot if you want it fitted.
Thank you for your videos. I am looking for new work boots. The number one thing I look for is American made. I have always gotten Thorogood boots in the past. They seam to be the standard in my trade. I have had problems with them stretching on the outside from the way I walk and wondering what else was out there. I had never heard of whites boots before but I am definitely going to check them out.
I have the Thursdays, and while I wish they ranked an A, I think the criticism is fair. since I use them as casual boots, and not work boots (I'm a public health worker, not on a factory floor or anything) I think I am pretty satisfied. Thanks for the cut-open! I'm a fan of Thursdays, if only because I used to love Red Wing, but they don't make Mens boots in my tiny size (6.5)
I’ve had my thorogood boots for and about a year and a half and it’s the best and most comfortable I had. Wear daily. Had red wings but they never felt right which is weird because everyone recommended them and they only lasted me less then a year in my field of work. And I’m still not due for a pair of boots for a while. If they raise the price of the thorogood I’m more them happy to pay
I think Danners should be in at least the B category... Personally i think they are more comfortable than Red Wings with no other downfalls. Plus they have a shank. Like them much better than Thorogoods too, they just look cooler.
I have just absolutely run through my danner moc toes. 3 months in and sole is coming apart and I can see my sock where the stitching has failed. We're my first pair so I was excited, the do look good though.
They're cheaper and are a good value so its arguable
@@SweetSoulBrother0 3months in though for $215 I don't think any sensible person would be ok with that
@@TheGolfCellar You put some heavy wear I'm assuming? Some people do the same with Red Wings and the outsole doesn't last past a couple of months. Sucks to hear the stitching issue but casual wear in a rotation then its not so bad. I see them for under $200 at retail btw
I think Danner is the best looking out of all of them
Glad I got the Whites. My first moc toe boot. Zero break in as I took an hour walk with no problems.
Please more tier lists! They are sooo helpful when comparing between brands and when informing what to spend our hard earned money on
Where would you put the RW 1907’s ? I’ve been a 875 wearer up until I purchased a pair of 1907. I wear them for work and they seem to be considerably more comfortable and durable than any of the $200- and under boots I’ve tried over the past 2 decades. I’m not so much a brand loyalist as a quality vs price loyalist. If I find a better $300 boot that is made in USA I would switch. Until RW starts paying me😉
Low key kind of mad nicks didn’t have a moc toe until recently. I purchased the whites perry about a year ago and I love them! However, the build of the nicks is by far superior to the rest. I guess I saved a few hundo though!
I think the perrys just look better. I know the Nicks are better in material but i really think they're ugly.
I’m kind of in the same boat. However, I personally would’ve still bought the white’s. That prices jump is pretty significant, and the difference in quality isn’t.
@@joelfigueroa1309 The Nicks are definitely unique! I kind of appreciate how different they are from all of the others. I don’t regret purchasing my Perry’s. Most comfortable, durable, and protective pair of slippers that I’ve ever had. Seriously comfortable once broken in!
@@MandoAndo i honestly think if they went with a boxier toe like redwing they'd look better. Just my opinion.
@@jivon14 That’s a good point! The only think I don’t like about my Whites is that my soles are coming apart. I must’ve gotten a pair from the early run. I don’t really like the Christie soles. I’m planning on having a lug sole out on when I get them resoled. Other than the soles, I love them shits!
Those Nicks are really nice as you said they are a bit expensive, but both inside and out they look so damn fabulous.
I personally think the Whites, Red Wing, and Nick's should be in the same tier. I understand the S tier should really only be for "the best overall single boot", but the pricepoint on the Nick's skews the Quality / Cost equation to make them even with the White's and Red Wing. Nothing bad to say about them as I agree they're one of the nicest looking boots and quality of materials is likely the best, but that price tag really makes me happy I went with the White's Perry. A few weeks into breaking my White's in and I feel like I'm walking on clouds.
in regards to the value, i think the Nick's ranks higher because they're still built to be worked in comfortably for years, whereas the RW wouldn't be so comfortable going up and down ladders for years.
Everyone tells me that Red Wings aren't as good as they used to be. I don't know. I wear Nicks.
I picked up my Whites Perry last year on Black Friday. Saved some money and love the boots. The only thing I would advise; they tell you to size down 1/2 size from your brannock scale size. If you like a roomy toe stay with the brannock size or what I call you dress shoe size.
Wearing Lems right now. I will say that they've held up really well for me. I'm a heavy guy, I go through footwear pretty fast. I've worn these for work 5 days a week for a year and they're still ok. Worn, but ok. I'll probably get a few more months out of them and honestly for the price I'm happy with it. I'd like to see more barefoot shoes/boots!
the redwings in my opinion are more a work boot and for the price point vs the nicks and the over all build I feel they are a better value and I would put them in S
I never see this mentioned, so I’ll share my experience. Working as an apprentice electrician, I had to push heavy cargo carts all day. Moc-toe stitching binds the top of metatarsal area as boot bends, causing painful restrictions with every step. Stitches are not designed to stretch like leather. Smoothe round toes are much more practical for a genuine worker’s boot, and make more sense...unless you’re a boot fashion model.
That is an interesting problem to have with boots. The only certain thing about boots is that everyone will prefer a different boot for their feet and job. I love my moc toe boots and have tried tons of different boots over the years. At the end of the day wear what's comfortable for you and good luck with your apprenticeship, I started my electrical apprenticeship 13 years ago and it's been a great career. There are so many variations in the electrical industry that it's easy to find a job that suits you.
My first year did lots of cart moving in Moc toe. By month 9..both stitches on the top metatarsal area of both boots had snapped. I think you're on to something
I wear boots for work so comfort is a big deal for me. I've had Redwings, danners and thorogoods. In my opinion, Redwings require a lot of break in which includes blisters and pain lol. I'll stick with thorogoods all day! Just bought a second pair, I highly recommended them. The vibrim wedge soles don't last long but that's to be expected.
I was going to buy some Danners but you definitely made me reconsider. Always been a Thorogood guy myself but the Whites boot is very enticing.
I love my danners. Just bought 2nd pair. Mostly to wear for looks. But so comfortable. Wear them daily doing residential construction on Oregon coast. They've stood up in super wet and muddy conditions. If I were to get different boots it'd be some more aggressive tread
I've had the Danner Moc Toe for about two years of near daily wear. I'm not too hard on them, since I treat them as everyday wear boots rather than work boots. I have run in them playing kickball games with the kids (can't recommend, due to the lack of tread, trust me). They are some of the most comfortable shoes I own, and hands down the most comfortable boots, even after two years. I have some wear on the insoles, and that's about it. The tread has minor wear, but I don't drag my feet like a lot of people who wear boots seem to. I got them on sale when I bought them though, so it was a fantastic deal. Leather still looks great, even with only occasional dusting off (I should probably take better care of them). My sole has turned tan when it used to be white though because I live in the country and am not afraid to walk in grass. It is unfortunate that the non-sale price has gone up $40 since I bought mine, though. Hope this helps.
Great lineup. Maybe future tests could include the Timberland Gridworks, Timberland Wedge, and the Alden Indy. The Alden is as pricey, if not more depending on materials, as the Nicks.
For comfort only I love my Danner mocs. They're probably the most sneaker-like boot I've tried, very cushioned and extremely comfortable. The biggest issue I found was the soles being made of a very porous foam-like material which sucks up water and dirt so if you're working inside they'll make your floor filthy. The leather is also quite thin and will look old and beat up after a year or so of regular use.
Love these videos. Super honest, nothing hidden when cut in half and explained by a man that knows boot construction. And I bought your Nicks boots! Thats how good the videos are. Can’t wait to get them!
I’m glad this video was posted so that I know what’s good to buy when I finally get my boots!!
You should define "work" because the rock rooster boots with the actual welt and real upper and ok inner for $105 are the best boot for the average American. Also, you should think about "a good price" wording because I live in Oregon and we have minimum wage higher then most states non minimum wage job, like a mill worker in Mississippi makes less then a lawn care worker in Oregon making all the boots you mention too expensive for their Mississippi "work" as you put it.
Not to mention you could outfit a whole work crew in rock rooster for the price of one Nicks...I'm not dissing nicks, they're the best boot, but nicks is a specialty boot company.
You should say...if you are a line utility person or concrete worker..or asphalt layer in Washington state buy the nicks, If you are the same profession in say Idaho with less pay buy Carolina; other then that rock rooster. Daner, whites and others had their day in the sun and made their money and now time and technology have caught up making the product obsolete and reduced them to hipster boots.
Carhart died in the early 2000's after a long battle in the 90's R.I.P
your right i work in slurry seal and southern cali i use diehards best boots for me sears used to have on fathers day $50 for boots id buy 4/5 pairs every fathers day or black Friday now that sears closed i think ima look into roosters because i have redwings but they are not comfortable at all they might be built right but i can only wear them for 4hrs max before my dawgs need a rest iv worked 18hrs in my diehards and felt like i had pillows on my feet
I’ve had the Thursday’s for about 2 1/2 years now. Only really wear them in Fall - Winter but they’ve held up incredibly well. I don’t work a trade job (anymore) so the more refined look, easy break in period, and overall plush feeling is perfect for me.
Didn't expected the Lems but glad to see them get a mention! I love my Lems (roomy toe box for my wide feet) but you hit all the cons. I also have issues busting the stitching of the toe box with the beating I put them through 😅
What about the Sears Diehard boots? I have seen a lot of these boots worn on the construction site and some folks would never buy anything else. I know they are not a tier S, just curious how the match with others.
Rockrooster makes Sears DIEHARD Brand Boots.
Great video! No big surprises but still helpful to get an overview and comparison.
How about a "leather hiking boot" themed series? I've seen reviews of hiking shoes in the short term but never a true quality assessment. I find your cutting sessions truly informative and helpful! :)
That would be great then we wouldn't need to wait for next Moctober for the next cut apart series.
I don’t know if I can move on from the thorogood moctoes. Been wearing them for 6 years. On my feet on concrete 8-12 hours a day and never have any issues.
My biggest complaint is I wear the soles out in about a year.
Even before watching the video I knew the Nick's would be in tier S. Also I don't understand how a boot with a $500 price tag gets such a high value score, but I guess that's the Nick's bias.
Also, I've had my Lem's Boulder Boots for almost 2 years and have done hundreds (if nota few thousand) miles in them, and while they may not be durable for actual work, they're unbeatable for actual hiking, which you wouldn't do in any of these other boots, so I think that ranking was a bit unfair.
If you paid attention for how he defined each tier it would be obvious. He's not measuring them by bang for buck in S teir. S tier is specifically premium boots. Premium products have premium price tags.
I am glad you enjoy your Lem's (Have heard a lot of good things about them), but I would just like to state: I absolutely would take my White's moc toes hiking.
You pay for what you get.
Don't cry about your bitch boots! Next your going to say UGGS need to be on the list.
I love my Lem’s Boots too and think they are a great product! But barefoot style boots are not going to score great on these specific categories. They need a very flexible sole and no midsole so they just aren’t going to have the durability. They need a really wide toe box which has many benefits but also looks funny. There’s nothing sleek about them. Value struggles in that they are not meant to last as long as work boots as they want tactile feedback and more minimal construction.
So I think they are a great product but their benefits weren’t really criteria on this specific test.
Lems plays an entirely different game than these others.
I think you’re spot on. I just purchased my first pair of Thorogood’s. Will soon find out. My red wings with the commando soul last 10 years and then I sold them for the same price that I purchased them for.
Let’s do this
Huh an actual youtuber and not a bot.
The one thing you are missing in this comparison are safety/ steel toe/ comp. toe boots. Because OSHA is regulating safety toe / heel type more in some construction trades. But other wise a good informative video.
Cheers
What's with the lack of Georgia boot reviews?
Their moc has a great price, is made in America, and the marketing material makes it sound like it's every bit as good or better than thorogood's.
I love mine, but what's inside?
I was gonna ask the same thing. I have a cheapo pair of Georgias that I’m looking to upgrade and I’m cross shopping Georgia and Thorogood. I’m really leaning towards the thorogoods just because I’ve heard so many good things about them but with my wide-ass caveman feet, I know my Georgias fit and it’s hard to walk away from that
@@kevinmiller4312 I've had Georgia, Thorogood, and Redwing moc toes- and my preference is definitely towards Thorogood and Redwing. Although I do have a pair of Georgia boot loggers that have held up to some insane conditions and feel almost like heavy slippers lol
have worn moc toe boots for 30+ years. Started with the Sears Craftsman's back in the day. Then switched Thorogoods. They fit good and last a long time. Never had an issue with them. At the end of the day and home I often let them on since they still felt good on.
I'd put Danner in B with Thorogood, I think they really hit that sweet spot in value, comfort, and looks
Bought a pair of Whites after watching last year’s Moctober. Nicks boots look awesome but the Whites are great for me. Maybe I’ll get a pair of Nicks in a few years.
I think thorogoods are an A tier, I love mine, and I’m the 1000mile video even though the Goodyear was cracked everything was still held together. I think they are better than Carolinas, maybe a B and a half tier. Lol
Agree. He got the Throrogoods wrong here.
A plastic welt can never score that high.
@@dennisnordlund902 I get it, but if it’s still functioning and holding together after a lot of use, it doesn’t matter. And when it gets to the point, thorogood will resole and replace almost everything except the upper for 125$
From a working stand point. I’ve never a pair of red wings last longer than ten months. I bout my first pair of thorogoods last June and they are still in good shape. I’d personally flip those two because of that. Love the look of both tho
currently shopping around for a pair of boots for longevity and tbh those moc toe red wings we're speakin to me, glad to know they're as good as they look
My local Red Wing store didn't have any moc toe boots made in the USA, only from Vietnam and Cambodia at just about the same price.
Easy way to get more money out of unsuspecting folks that don't pay attention.
Would love to see the Grant Stone Brass boot and Alden 403 Indy next Moctober.
I understand why Nicks is in the 'S' tier exclusively, but if you gave me $600 free dollars to spend on boots, I'd buy two pairs of the White's moc toes. I have 2 pairs, and absolutely love them. I work in my family's construction business by day, and work on a ranch the rest of the time. There is no more perfect boot then the 8" black moc toe by White's. Whatever the situation, whether it be shopping, chasing cows or donkey surfing (long story), working, chores out of trailer on an ATV in the middle of nowhere, they are never out of place and the comfort is sublime. How long they can take to lace up versus my Thursdays or Jim Greens would be the only argument against them, but that's just what you get for a boot of it's size regardless of manufacturer.
I put over 5 miles daily on Thorogoods in a rough environment and have zero complaints about comfort or durability.
My Danners have easily survived warehouse work. I not only wear them but use them as a mallet, kicking boxes and pallets. They have also survived my home use digging and fence building. I followed your cleaning video today and they look great, with a few surface cuts and scuffs for character. I think I paid $175.
I just randomly came into this because it popped up for me. I can't speak from a casual lifestyle, but I can speak from a purely Industrial/Work setting where we get to chose the boots we want and I've tried a couple on the list (steel toed) and I have to go with Danner. They've held up for me well, I get no questions about the price when I buy a new pair every year or so(Company dime), they break in fast and allow me to get back to work in record times with no discomfort. I dont lace up all the way at first but after the first couple of days I'm able to and they're great.
Emotional attachment is hit or miss with me. THe boots that still look good after a year or so I take home with me and use them for homestead stuff, but otherwise I dont feel bad when I toss them and get a new pair. Over the years they've been light enough for me to perform well, durable enough to stand the seasons, and I'm not heartbroken if something bad happens to them. I'm kjicking with them, using the steel toe as leverage points. They're scored and cut and mangled and still are able to perform well. I get having nice thick leather that will last a lifetime and mold to my foot but I dont expect any boot I own to last 5 years in what I do. I expect to throw them on, beat them up adn take them off and when I get a new pair to have little to no downtime. Danner is pretty good for those.
Just bought my first pairs of Red Wing Moc Toe and Iron Ranger. Waiting to put on a coat of oil before I wear them. Your videos were my way of learning about them.
I’m a supervisor for Home Depot and I use the carhart boots frequently and they aren’t anywhere near as bad as you say they are… in my opinion…. Of course if you work at a steel mill or construction I wouldn’t recommend them but they do the job in a retail environment or even to be out and about…. Cleaning them are annoying tho
You should do a review on the Timberland Pro moctoes, I'd like to know if they're an ok budget boot
Can you include Irish Setter in your boot reviews?
I always disagree with your opinions on Thorogood. In my honest opinion they are the epitome of comfort and durability. Price is whatever you pay an arm and a leg for everything nowadays, but off the shelf they require almost no break in period to be a comfortable boot, something you can step in and work a 10 hour day no problem. I enjoy mocktober but this scale seems to be based ultimately on a formula I have an issue with.
I bought a pair of red wings after watching your channel for a while. They are the most comfortable boots/shoes ever once they broke in. I prefer them to my sneakers any day of the week
Tried my first thorogood 7-8 years ago and will never buy anything else now, luckily I live an hour from the factory and pick them up for $70-$90 a pair usually buy 3-4 at a time.