That's Got To Be The Best Spear User I've Ever Seen - Helldivers 2
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- A lil edited compilation of all the Spear kills within 2 Helldive missions. Used it against the bots, but WOW is this thing effective against bugs.
Kill count at the end!
#helldivers2 - เกม
Hey all! Didn't think I'd be getting this much attention on a video regarding a single weapon in a video game but here we are! Until the Devs fix the Spear to be more consistent, I wanted to offer some tips on how you can "finesse" it to work a bit more consistently.
1. Aim high/have the target at the bottom half of the circle [The spear goes UPWARDS so i think aiming DOWNWARDS offsets somehow. It's weird. Center of reticle might be the spear's original trajectory]
2. The FARTHER you are from the enemy, the closer to CENTER you'll aim. The CLOSER you are to the enemy, the closer to the EDGE of the circle you'll aim.
3. If you're Spear is having trouble locking on, and the lock on triangle is in the bottom half of the circle, try crouching or going prone - that extra lower vertical elevation helps!
4. If the target is moving sideways, give the Spear some lead!
Good luck out there Helldivers! Go quash some big bugs with this thing!! :D
Everyone loves an underdog. Spear is probably one of them. Loved using it for bot fabricators but I think I'll try them out for bugs now since bots have been kicked out for the time being.
1:55 I mean, your missile hit the hellbomb and then it exploded, so yeah fair.
Now I know how I was using the spear wrong. I might pick it back up next time I'm playing. Thanks.
The edge of the reticule thing matches what I’ve experienced too
Looks like normal gameplay with a guy using a targetting rocket.
Looks booring
Good job.
(Not being sarcastic obviously)
30% of the time, it works every time
I love it when it does though
I dunno, I’ve had more of an 80% myself.
is aiming a bit above the target changing anything about accuracy ?
@@Dinamit0_Bomb3r No, its to force a more vertical initial trajectory.
Hahahaha it’s the same as every 60 secondes a minute passes in Africa 😂
It’s cool the devs made a video of every recorded kill from the spear.
It's cool that Arrowhead made a lockon that requires practice to master instead of it being a braindead point and shoot weapon. I hope they don't make it too easy to get a lock.
@mcarpen89 it definitely is a high skill weapon to use and is balanced in terms of needing distance, firing when the titan is looking directly at you and so forth. I've found a great deal of joy using it recently after some of the smaller changes they've made with the lock on being inconsistent.
@@mcarpen89 Ok but a lock on system that doesn't lock on unless you aim away from your target is terrible. The system isn't complex, the laser pointer that is supposed to come from the weapon is on your feet. That is why you need to aim up, bc you are aiming with your feet, not the weapon. It's bugged but we know arrow head is allergic to bug fixes
Video would be 25 seconds long
@@mcarpen89Y'know i figured the low ammo count and specific angles necessary for high damage hits would be the trade off for ease of use rockets, but nah lets make its lock on also suck so that its the objectively worse launcher in the game intentionally instead of unintentionally.
Me switching to the bug front and realizing I have to actually walk to the red splotches on the radar instead of deleting them from a mile away:
Do that and you will get killed even Fisterra my friend
Yoloing with 6 handgranades if the funniest way to clear the huge bug nests.
😂😂😂
This is the single largest amount of successful spear locks I have ever witnessed period. Hats off to you.
Hell yea!
My buddy and I 2 manned a mission that had 8 bile titans in it. Only reason we survived was because of his damn spear.
@@icspps yea no diff scaling for number of players is a pain, two people doing the job of 4 (e.g. Players + Difficulty = Amount of enemies is false)
I saw the actual John Helldiver using the Spear against the toasters in a Search and Destroy mission.
He didn't move from where we dropped in the center of the map, just took out all the fabricators with the Spear and jogged on over to the extraction point calm as can be.
I swear he didn't even get his cape dirty.
Wait, did we play together? I’ve done that half a dozen times now having finally gotten the spear out a bit over a month ago to deal with stratagem jammers
"That's got to be the ONLY Spear user I've ever seen"
Nah, I rock often. His tips are all pretty much what I've been doing. THING SHREDS.
Clearly haven't SEEN you though@@tetsatou2815
currently, it's my main.... amazing against bots.... I just need the majority of the ammo supplies
@@tetsatou2815are you like me and its often accompanied by shouts of "LOCK YOU FUCKER." Proud spear user still though.
Every single solitary time I've used the Spear, it stubbornly refuses to lock on to just about _anything_ even massive targets right in the open
it works about 20% once you learn how to finesse it this goes up to 80%
It seems from watching this video like you actually have to put your target at the bottom of the circle for some reason
I feel your pain!
@@michelchaman6495 Pretty much! It still has trouble sometimes, but its a ot more consistent.
Any map with high vegetation interferes with the lock.
Post extraction stats should include heavies and massives kills as a separate line.
Their are no massives in game yet. All the big enemies are still just heavies. I imagine the forst massive we fight will be the hive lords
@@MIGSmoakz I would consider factory strider as a massive😅
@@TheAns51 thats cool. You can if ypu want to but in game theyre heavies. Theure actually smaller than bile titans
@@MIGSmoakz In size yes but they have heavier armor and more firepower tho. Much more dangerous to face than bile titan.
@@TheAns51 but were quite literally talking about size…
I bring the Spear with me a lot. My motto is "If it actually worked, I'd be dangerous". But it's one of the weapons I WANT to love the most. Mainly utilized it against the bots.
The spear is like an abusive girlfriend who never communicates, acts really passive aggressive and expects you to read her mind... But she gives great head.
@@grimgrahamch.4157 🤣🤣🤣 This is perfect!!!
I use it for missions requiring destroying fabricators and command bunkers, spear is the best thing against those since it can once shot em all
how is it against factory Striders? (The big walkers)
@@darkstormww7479 basically u don’t get to choose what u target but it’s pretty good since u don’t have to get close, 1 missile for the top turret and about 3-4 for the body. Even less with a few air strikes and other people doing damage.
I came for the spear, i stayed for the soundtrack.
This is an observer of exotic life forms.
That's one damn good spear user
Thanks~! Trained a lot on the bots tryin' to get it to lock on to so many targets. There... is no absence of targets on Helldive difficulty with bugs.
The spear need to be able to lock onto spore spewers, shrieker nests, and be more reliable and then it'll be perfect
It *can* lock onto spore spewers. haven't tried shreiker nests yet because it seemed to have locked onto the shreikers instead. :(
I've only used the Quasar Cannon on the Shrieker nests with reliable success. I just wish the Spear has better resupply economy
@@Tleilandrek Good to know, I was fairly close to the spewer so I thought it couldn't lock on but I guess I was a smidge too far.
Personally I wish the spear had an option to fire without locking on, it’s a higher risk since there is a less of a chance to hit far targets but you get the benefit of hitting where you want
@@Erb730I’d be down for that. Maybe have it so you hold the launcher at an angle, so your first person view is looking down the barrel, over the sight (with the upturned sight blocking most of your view), and your third person view doesn’t get a recital. That way, you have to rely on intuition to aim your shots. Would leave the other launchers their niche, and give the spear some more flexibility.
Only problem I can see is such a change might trivialize those destroy fabricator missions though. Hmm, maybe it isn’t such a good idea.
The perfect weapon for a gambler, when it works it slays when it don't you will just be carried by your teammate lol
"when it don't you will just blame your teammate" xDDDD
@@Rejwen23 lol "allied destroyer has left the squadron"
I love the part where you stand on an open area and it doesn’t lock on💀
Well, enjoy the Spear guys. As soon as the locking bug gets fixed I ASSURE YOU that the days of 1-shot Bille Titans will be numbered. It's too much fun for AH too not nerf this.
I main the spear against bugs, because if I pray and click my heels 3 times while waddling right to left, I can one shot Titans.
He aims up. I will give this thing another go. Thanks for the study material
I run sometimes with a guy who uses the spear a lot, he says marking the target helps with spear, especially if there are multiple lock-able targets nearby it will focus on that mark. But it might also help get the lock since he feels it does. He still suffers from the usual issues tho.
Eat your apples.
Was that a Rick and Morty reference?
Correction:
Thats got to be *the luckiest* Spear user I've ever seen. It's easy to use, the lock depends purely on luck/hpw much sleep the servers had this minute
They added a update to were it locks on better if you mark the enemy
Tbh I get these types of lock ins all the time it really struggles with bots tho
They are gone now tho, so it cheeses the crap outta bugs Ngl they are big enough for it to always lock on to them especially titans
And if you do mark them it gets easier
You just need to carry some eagles for close air support for rushing mobs and the spear will handle the rest tbh
Having a turret helps aswell for when you need to reload
@@knitetimeteddy2989 Does the ping actually help? Or are we developing superstitions about the mysterious inner workings of the spear?
The change third person to first person help to know where you are aiming, and yes, helldivers have that mechanic of chance the perspective depending if you are playing playstation or pc
Hahaha, _servers!_
The game itself is all P2P.
Blame whoever hosted the game.
@@asialskyit’s not ‘all’ P2P, otherwise they wouldn’t have had all the server issues at launch. But you are right that enemy position, AI, and damage seems to be controlled on the host’s device. Makes me wonder if the Spear lock on works better if you are host.
That's him. That's John 'Spear' Helldiver
the strongest weapon needs the strongest will
Got blessed with the "improved search and targeting system" perk
I've started using this again, admittedly partially because of this video and it locked on quite well for me and damn it does that thing drop targets. Short of the factory striders this thing EATS.
As someone who use spear a lot let me give you a tip on how to use it .
For it to properly lock on target you need to be on the same height so if your target is on a mountain and you are on the bottom it will not lock and vice versa if you are on top and you are trying to lock on a target below it will not work either .
I hope i helped a bit =)
Such awful design. God i hope they fix it
@@jamessalvatore7054 its in a patch note as an unfixed bug, so they at least want to work on it.
Another spear user, I don’t have any issues locking into things significantly below me. Locking onto charger at the bottom of a bug hive, for example, tends to work quite well, though it’s rarely worth shoot one. And when it comes to things above, gunships are probably the easiest target to lock onto, in my experience anyway.
Ultimately, I’m not quite sure how to maximize the chances of a lock. All I really know at this point is that if I can’t fully see an enemy, there’s a good chance the spear can’t either. But if the target is silhouetted against the sky or a flat/distant backdrop, there’s a good chance the spear will lock. Anything beyond that would require knowing what is going on under the hood.
@@chamberlane2899 Its a view thing. I like to imagine the Spear has a confidence rating on things it can see and recognise, and has a minimum confidence rating (like 95% or there about)
Its not how it actually works, but the intuition has helped. The more of the target is in complete clear view, the higher the rating and the closer to a successful lock the yellow triangle will be.
THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE… Also it’s stupid.
locks on on tower few 3 km away,..then cant lock on to the tower 1km away
Most frustratibg shit fucking ever
Locks onto the Scout Strider across the map. Can't lock onto the tank who's barrel is currently up my libertyhole.
@@AlphalanceVO
Lol. I caught a Hulk sleeping in the open one time while I was using the Spear. My Orbital Railcannon Strategem had 30 seconds left on cooldown. I spent 30 SECONDS trying to get the useless Spear to lock on. I ultimately ended up throwing the Strategem. I dropped the Spear and it's backpack. If they had a direct fire mode it might be tolerable. But they have Recoilless Rifle, Expendable Anti-Tank, and Quasar Cannon. All infinitely superior in my opinion to the shitshow that is... The Spear.
bile titan down music to my ears.
Spear is surprisingly effective. Pair with EAT for the downtime when you're waiting on resupplys or in the thick of it and you're a heavy slaying machine
Tip for the spear, move your reticle away from the lock to change the angle the missile flies. If you are locked onto a charger facing you, and you point the spear down, it will fly lower to the ground and hit the face. If you are locked onto a tank, aim up and the missile will fly high, to hit the turret instead of the body.
It really helps, it can one tap hulks/tanks/bile titans/chargers, but you actually have to hit the spot. Good vid tho.
Players who use the spear get my absolute love. Had a spear player yesterday who covered me from gunships while I ran in to drop a hellbomb on the factory. Similarly, had a different spear player who was the sole reason we won our evacuate assets mission on bugs - by utterly obliterating any bile titans that appeared.
When it work it like a gift u get during Christmas when it doesn’t? Well let say my table bend a little
When it works it's super effective. But it just doesn't freaking lock!
I feel your pain!
This video has revealed me the proper way to use the SPEAR! I will use it now - because you showed me the gun mechanic!
My friends and I just had a discussion about how to improve the spear's targetting the other day, and one of them proposed a pretty interesting idea:
Utilize the ping system in similar fashion to laser guidance. Player with launcher align desired target within the reticle first, then a second player can hold down their ping button to initiate the laser guidance, at which point the spear can be fired even if there's no lock-on, but until the payload hit the second player must ensure the laser is on target at all time. This way the second player will be a lot more involved in the "crew serve" aspect of the weapon, but in return for great result.
Also if you didn't know. If you ping heavy enemies with Q it locks on slightly more faster.
One-shotting Bile Titans with the Spear is my recreational drug.
1. Spear targeting computer LOVES high ground
2. stay 25-50m away from the target, nonfunctional at close range
3. aim for the upper part of the target
There's a rumor that pinging the target (with q) helps the Spear lock on faster. Haven't seen anyone test it yet, but give it a whirl and see if it helps.
a lock on missile compilation is such a funny concept
I love the spear and this video gives me a better feel of how to actually make it effective
I'm more impressed by how well his teammates are covering his ass while handling the spear.
Pirates of the Caribbean music goes damn hard with Helldivers 😩
sooo impressive
I'm so glad there are still spear users like me, kinda like AMR users too. Very rare but when they use it, its clutch.
godspeed you magnificent bastard
you have the timing down to an art
insane video. bro knows the spear like it's his wife.
Man that score hasn't aged a day!
Finally, someone else that isn’t useless with a SPEAR
this guy got everybody’s spear lockon all to himself 😭
To be fair that's probably the only spear user he's ever seen too.
They should let this have a mini nuke like in Starship Troopers
I don't use the spear myself, or at least I haven't yet, but I have seen footage of them one-shotting the bots' jammer towers, which would make the spear guy the most popular guy in the squad on any mission with them, IMO. being able to take those out without having to fight through the base they're in is a huge advantage. some of the jammer installations have a bot assembler installation immediately attached to the base of the jammer tower, and if you pop that assembler with a grenade launcher or autocannon it'll destroy the jammer in the subsequent blast, but not every jammer installation will be in that configuration, and you have to approach from a specific side to pull that off. the spear could let you breeze through jammers from a distance at any angle, and that alone is enough to entice me to use them more.
Sometimes for some random reason it can lockon to a bile titan from a mile away and it's awesome to see the missile streak towards it.
One shotting the bile titans with the spear are so satisfying. Inconsistent as heck but man is it a treat.
Its insane just how fast it locks on when it actually works.
Helldiver's Javelin is apparently just as satisfying to use ingame as it is to see it in action.
Spear vs bugs and not bots? What a mad lad
Been using this thing since I unlocked it post rail nerf gotta be my favorite heavy weapon, being able to reliably oneshot biles and chargers by aiming for the head, or taking out bot fabricators with it
the moment they fix the lock on bug, it will be the best weapon in the game.
It's a bit tricky to use, but once you get used to the distance, appropriate line of sight and high ground, it feels really good.
He's not just a spear user, he's the best spear user (he's the only spear user able to acquire lock)
Spear tip to improve locks:
Put the dot in the center of the circle over the triangle targeting reticle and hold it there until you get the lock.
Hold lock dot on triangle targeting reticle until missile contact if possible.
Profit
Bro’s luck attribute is MAXXED OUT
Im going to have to use it now. Getting 3 factory striders at once is clown world.
The trick with the spear vs Bile Titans is to get aggro from a distance with another gun, or have an ally run straight at you with aggro. You will always 1-shot a BT if it is facing directly at you.
I really like the Spear don't really have lock on issues it's more of if it doesn't hit them in the head you will either spend 2 or 3 shots killing the target landing anywhere else. I do like that it can take out automaton fabricators from quite a distance though just hope they can make it so you can manually target something and have the ability to choose the angle to come from above like plunging fire or straight.
I love using the Spear on Bot Outposts from a distance so that I can just go and sweep through with my incendiary breaker. Feels good
Whenever Spear works as intended, it is a beautiful weapon.
ah, you too are afflicted with loving this temperamental special weapon? Respect.
It doesn't always work, but when it does ...
this is impressive, the last time I tried to used the spear I could barely get consistent lock ons lls
What a Lancer
Playing with Spear be like:
30% Boom! One shot, baby!
70% Aim on that enemy, you stupid thing!
Using the spear is a bit like becoming a professional gambler. Nine out of Ten people fail, but if you succeed, you can really make a difference. Erasing Bile titans in one shot is sooooo satisfying
Spear chads always on top
in the past few days i have become a certified Spear Truther, this thing is genuinely really good, its just picky with its targeting.
If a hulk is slowly walking straight at you and he's close enough, a spear will lock on, go over him and miss. That is when I knew I fucking hated the thing.
Not bad not bad 👏
That's the equivalent of a "rolling D20 crits every time" best-of montage on a 80 hour BG3 playthrough, somehow featuring only a quarter of all battles.
The devs made the spear fix but only gave it to this guy
If the SPEAR was this consistent all the time it would be my go to support weapon.
How in the samhill hell do you get it to target so well. I have to do a goddamn ritual to get it to pick up immobile targets without obstructions
What i would love to see is the devs put in a laser support weapon for locking targets. Like say 1 divers runs waayy ahead and out of the way, lasers a target so the jav man can fire and forget from a safe distance
i love how the video on “best spear play” is just finagling it to work how it was intended to work.
My main problem with it against chargers is that it really depends on where it hits them. Lots of times you have to waste two spear rockets, when all you need is one recoilless shell(?)
He is the chosen one 😮
I LOVE THE SPEAR
**LAUGHS IN A PILE OF EAT-17s**
Laser designation, from like bf3/bf4 woukd do wonders becuase you can laz a target and your buddy can just rock them with the javelin
With the targeting patched up a bit today (and supposedly targeting boosted when a target is called out), taking the Spear out was actually fun.
Fellow Spear Enthusiast here, The Spear will always one shot the Bile Titan to the face, instead of wasting a rocket into its side, shoot it with your primary until you draw aggro then switch to the Spear and fire the rocket when its directly facing you and it will One shot it 99% of the time.
honestly have been having a hard time finding spear locks and honestly i must be missing something because it feels inconsistant, any tips on the SPEAR?
I couldn't get this weapon to fire to save my life. Literally.
I'm becoming a Spear believer
There is some logic to the lock on. From my testing I have found that you need to be on roughly the same elevation or higher. You need a clear line of sight to the target and there needs to be no over head obstacles. Things like structures and hills can block the lock on. Its that last part that I think is the problem If I had to guess the reason as to why the spear lock on is weak its because it over exaggerates things like terrain and dead bodies as impediments to the missiles flight path. The missile also seem to have a minimum air time before it can course correct.
A fix to the spear targetting is planned at the end of this month, i hope it really does fix it
I used the spear to destroy fabricators and turrets from across the map...sometimes you get lucky with the range and are able to pull off stuff like that