Just gotta say whoever came up with the "the child just picks up the whole damn sidewalk and flees" is a genius. The entire movie was confusing, but that scene really just cements how bonkers the movie is.
Not only acts. The whole neighborhood was created by non-humans and they're experimenting on couples. They think all humans need are the basic survival things like food and a family. The issue is that the non-humans don't understand what food tastes like or how a kid should act, so they fail at making a normal neighborhood. Hence, the title Vivarium where birds are also kept in captivity with things they need to survive off of while they're being observed. The shorter summary is based on the saying "yah, you're surviving but are you living?"
though the child never truly has healthy interactions with the "parents" either this movie really made me think would if the BEST CASE human couple arrived in the vivarium as in a couple absolute desprate for kids they cant have and a desire isolation from the human world thus there are happy raising the alien young. i wonder how the aliens would react perhaps with a geuine bond one could explain to the child to tell his real parents the problems with the vivarium aka lack of sensation and how it affects there human health and if it was changed they could raise MORE then one kid for them perhaps even raising DOZENS for them considering a healthy humans lifespan of 80 to 90 years. cause it seems the aliens just find humans well alien in mentality they think yonder is as close to heaven as a human could want not even comphrending how the lack of sensations taste and touch slowly kills human beings who require those senses for there well being.
i always thought the alien child was a rather clear metaphor for the neurodivergent child the parents go the worst case real life scenario basically when the main character tried to be compassionate and to find common ground everything was going nice if they didn't let media and strangers to raise their kid, maybe it would work out
I don’t understand why they didn’t just kill him when he was a baby or small child once they realize the bastard isn’t human and say fuck you I’m not raising your little shit!
Since the creature mimics human behavior, the parents could act totally insane, speak gibberish, violent. That would possibly break the cycle for at least one of the alien children
I have spent the last 30minutes reading the comments to this video. They are such a wonderful showcase of human creativity and different approaches to problem solving as we all as different values. From "eat the kid", through "convince the kid to show you the way out" to "show the kid you love them and through that provoke compassion". Someone should take this entire section and archive it!
Gotta remember the title of the movie. Vivarium. They're literally just being observed and studied on their actions by what can only be assumed to be a higher being we can't see. The real estate agent was a lure that captured them the same way fish are drawn to bait while fishing. This movie is brilliant because it makes you ask the question "What if human's weren't the top of the food chain, and instead fished and kept as pets just like a common goldfish?"
Exactly. Think of a fish trying to escape a fish tank...Even if it does it dies. Think of outside the fish tank as the dimension the creatures live in watching the fish. It's impossible.
If they can "trap" the child, and the creatures do not intervene to save it, then theoretically wouldn't it also be possible to withhold the child from its lessons with its own kind?
I think you are right. they might come for it then if the child stops attending. But couldn't they just open the door without being seen like when they drop off the food?
@@Diogenes323 It still forces them to make more decisions and take more actions which increases the likelihood of them making a mistake, which is pretty much the only possible way to escape from this scenario- if the captors make a mistake.
good idea. My guess is that if they are only able to manipulate dimensions at a certain age, the child would not be able to get out the trap by warping reality or some weird stuff. Buttt he does seem to appear out of thin air..
I think the key to their escape may be the book the child brings. While in a language they can’t understand, the book IS shown to have pictures, which means it could have use to it. Maybe the book could indicate a method of escape, and if they analyze the pictures enough, or perhaps trick or force the child to read the book to them, they could understand their situation better and possibly find a crack in the wall.
This plus they should try to stop the kid from going to "school" after seeing what it's doing to him. It might not be possible since he may have learned how to walk through spaces at this point, but they should try to stop the indoctrination.
honestl, i would find raising the child to be a pretty ineresting experience. yes, id lose my mind eventually. but while i was still sane id have a blast asking the kid all sorts of questions. how far away is your home planet? what is life like beyond the keiper belt? etc...
@@lardlover3730 it would be more the opposite since I think the solution is to teach the kid different stuff. Compassion might be the most important thing. Now that would not be easy since you are forced into the whole situation. But the kid itself hadn't done anything wrong yet.
Nah, best case scenario- they give you another baby with words in the box that tells you to raise it or die... And worst case scenario- you are killed...
I've just watched the movie with a friend and as soon as I saw the houses, I was like "And that's the moment, I'm turning the car around, because I already know, I don't want to live in this environment." Also we found so many things to pass the time there that sounded much less depressing than digging a hole.
There might be a sunk cost fallacy at play, since they drove a long way to get to Yonder. It would also be impolite to the realtor. By the time they turn left, the sky turns into the Vivarium sky and they're trapped forever. Point of no return.
That’s actually kind of smart tho! While it wouldn’t save the protagonists, it could theoretically prevent future couples from getting trapped. Though we would have to assume that the current aliens wouldn’t correct this behavior. (The current aliens would have been taught by other humans in the past, so we can probably assume that they have correct knowledge of humans, and likely enough so to understand that this is not in fact a normal human greeting.) This maybe could help as a long term solution for future couples, but it depends on how extensive the current alien’s understanding of humans is, and also how many mature aliens they have trapping humans at a given time. If it’s only one (which is very unlikely), then theoretically this could stop this cycle. But there are probably a lot of aliens trapping humans at any given time, so it’s more likely than not that this wouldn’t actually help stop the cycle, only save a few lucky future couples who happen to speak to the specific alien that was taught to say this.
@@sirisso3974 I once worked with a guy whose father taught him silver was called "gold" and gold was called "silver." He knows it's wrong, but the right way still doesn't come naturally. You could at the very least get the child talking so strangely that it couldn't sell real estate.
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restrain the kid, put it in the car, drive. The kid would likely limit the location manipulation they pull off. if not, the kid would also be like WTF and would likely be able to figure out a way to lead them out before being mindfcked by its own kind.
@@Flamme-Sanabi It's a pocket dimension that they have complete control over, such that they can make things instantly appear and disappear at will. You think they can't get the fuckin gas out of a car?
I think the thing is though that only the blandest most milquetoast of couples would ever end up here. Because that’s exactly the kind of couple these creatures need to raise them. Anyone who doesn’t fit that bland stereotype would have dipped long before these guys, and therefore wouldn’t have become ensnared. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy.
@@HeyItsNovaleevivarium reminds me of the new James McAvoy film “Speak No Evil” where his character tests his victims to see how susceptible they are to manipulation and abuse before he makes his move.
The only hope we might have of finding a way out for our doomed duo would be if there is some fault in the premise: if reality is not portrayed accurately. The characters believe that they, for example, drove in a completely straight line only to end up where they started and this would be a pretty doomed situation if they were correct but we have reason to believe that their sense of reality is warped. We’re given a pretty compelling reason within the text to distrust the food so my first assumption was that the food was drugged in some way. Adding on top of that the absurdity of the situation and the all too convenient bouts of fatigue and death, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that whatever is trapping them is capable of messing with their perceptions as well. This is still incredibly tricky, as the protagonists are still left in a situation where they can’t conceive of an exit even if one theoretically exists. For all we know, there could be drugs present on surfaces or in the air rather than the food (hell, maybe they regularly get injected with hallucinogens and they just can’t remember) so they probably couldn’t avoid any foreign psychoactive substances that might be messing with their brains. All that said, I do think there is one option that hasn’t been considered: If the [cuckoo alien whatevers] have trapped them here and placed them with a baby, continually supplying them with sustenance, they must have some interest in keeping the humans alive (at least for long enough for the humans to raise the cuckoo baby). A single baby might be disposable enough to the [creepy Book of Mormon monsters] but they seem to go through a lot of trouble to keep the humans alive and trapped so they could try bargaining with their own lives. Pulling a Hunger Games double-suic SIKE probably won’t allow them to negotiate their freedom but it could force the [white collar weirdos] to show their hand more, potentially giving our pair a slightly better chance of retaliating. It’s not a foolproof strategy by any means but making a threat against yourself is one of the more consistent options imo because it works in multiple contingencies: if the [suburban sickos] are real and keeping them trapped intentionally, this would allow them to bargain, and if this is more of a hallucination situation making a threat against yourself probably gives you the best chances of someone intervening on your behalf (with a better outcome than “psycho high on drugs attempts to kill child). They may be doomed to lose no matter what they do but they could at least try to be non cooperative to prevent their adversaries from winning.
that was my first thought as well. even hopping though the spaces at the end didn't show many couples so they must put a lot of stock into those they do have. starving themselves may make the aliens have to engage with them than just with boxes, which could lead to them making a mistake or giving them clues on how to escape. Plus like you said, if they are being drugged though the food it would serve a double purpose.
I like this theory, but Idk about them bargaining with their own lives because if you noticed in one of the realities/dimensions/whatever that Gemma fell through there was a man lying dead in a bath tub and it was suggested that he took his own life, so it's hard to say whether or not they really care too much about both of them being alive, especially if the child is already mostly done maturing. That being said it might be a good idea to try for the one who's left if the other were to somehow die super early on.
Hear me out, I think i found a way how they could have beaten it. This sounds a lot like faries (or something along that line) from certain mythologies, i think Japanese or Chinese; but Asian for sure. a lot of points struck me as familiar, for example: - Bringing you into their world that looks a lot like an uncanny valley version of ours. - imitating humans. - The whole focus on food. I legitimately think one way for them to escape would have been not to eat the food, since fairy food apparently traps you in their world, drains your energy and slowly kills you (sounds familiar), while eating real food sort of "pulls" you back out, of course they would've needed to know this before hand but still.
@@bigwolfart5938 there was an episode in the twilight zone with a perfect American suburban neighborhood with everyone having the same house. I think aliens were replacing the people slowly. But yea this concept of same house perfect suburbia has always creeped me out
in all honoesty, killing the child right after you discover it isn't human, might be a way to at least cure your own sanity. Even when you die of the weird food, at least you ruined the extraterrestrial creature's plan with you. (although i do feel like they will just send you another one)
There's a slightly darker route to all of this and I can't believe I'm gonna say this. There's the cannibalism option kill and eat the child. There's a few reasons why this could be an option. 1. It will be a good test to see how the other creatures react to an event such as that. If everything is replaceable the food the house etc. is the child also replaceable do the creatures care that much about it to be disgusted by the action or will it be replaced until the couple just eventually start raising it. 2. It be actual nutrients bar the possibility of the creature flesh being inedible or toxic which is the only downside comparing to living with the fact they went to cannibalism to survive. 3. The aliens/creatures seemingly didn't account for wild cards only conditioning. It's not uncommon for someone to think of the burning down the house option when in a scenario like this or even anyone but an average family falling into the trap it wouldn't be hard to think a crazy people hiding out as an average couple would happen in a neighborhood like that it could honestly be It's own horror movie with the aliens/creatures being the victims. This is really all I can think of considering the options available for escape
This was my thought after hearing using the kid as a bargaining chip. If the food kills you... well there's another possible food source. Also is it technically cannibalism if the kid is a different species?
@@Thekennel75 then you still win by spiting them. hard to get more couples if their aren't any human raised kids. if every one does it they will eventually have to give up and then you win through a battle of attrition.
@@professorhaystacks6606 I feel like your on to something the time the new real estate agent appears is perfectly timed with the death of the old one so unless they have multiple families going at once the whole cycle could break down with just one family failing to raise the child however this is contradicted by the other familys seen in the under the side walk situation. Also it raises the question of how the cycle began.
@@professorhaystacks6606 I come from a background of alot of sci-fi entertainment so I tend to count cannibalism as the consumption of of one sentient species performed on another sentient species
Ok, somewhat morbid solution, but the first thing I thought of when you said that the food kills them was to eat the child. I doubt that the creatures would poison their own kin. Also, the child arrived in a box, which is what everything else given to them is inside of. So I think the creatures might give them another child which would work as a consistent food source. This is may attract the wrath of the creatures, but they might then reason that the characters aren't worth it, and spit them back out to the real world. It could also just get them killed, but there aren't any options here.
The child might not work as a food source since it isn't human eating your partner might work though but as your only companion it might not work in the long run
This presumes that the aliens care about rearing the child. What if they're like a lot of animals and bugs which deposit their eggs and take off and just hope for the best? For example, cuckoos put their eggs in another bird's nest and leave.
The older boy knows how to drive out. I think there’s a way to trick him to take you too. Also after he’s attacked he shows Gemma a new way to traverse the world that could have been explored more as a way out.
Pain would work real well. Here's something interesting, when fleeing the child seemed to be unable to just teleport away, so this tells us that whatever extra dimension the creatures are moving through, they are still present in our dimension when they do it. Now if we work under the assumption that they can't just teleport away or disappeared from our hands, then we have to ask ourselves one more thing. Are the abilities of these creatures naturally given or learned from the other creatures? If they are naturally given, then you wander around with the baby in your arms, trying to get it to use its ability naturally. If they are learned, then you would tie up the creature when it's an adult and try to force it to use its abilities. There are numerous ways we could go about this but the easiest and most promising option is pain. We naturally flinch when we think we're about to get struck, birds fly away if you get too close and fish swim away if they are touched. We try to flee from pain, even the creature as shown in the pickaxe clip. If you get the creature in your grasp and tie it up so that it won't escape and start inflicting light pain upon it you might get a reaction. Worst comes to worst, you tie it close to your body and threaten it with torture if it doesn't comply to get you out.
Here's a dumb solution, how about, before the child begins to learn lesson from its own kind, they drive the car with the child inside and ask the child to pick a random direction, my reasoning for this is because I would like to see if he has one of those 'Directections' skills you see animals have, who can't get lost and know where to go, like a pigeon or birds.
This would be a dope plot line for a sequel. What if it did lead you out but it wasn't to our world but instead to a disturbing alien alternate reality that has a much slower rate of time and would cause the humans bodies and world to react differently in their laws of nature (I still would like it to inescapable because comeon us measly 3 dimensional beings cant win)
You could always raise the child. The creature moves on once the mother dies but the parents stressed themselves out and thus died earlier than might be expected, with the guy working himself to death basically. If the creatures are simply lying then it might be impossible, which they are shown to do as the entire thing is a trick, but it's also possible the best solution is to just play along and do so wasting as little energy as possible and they will actually uphold their agreement eventually.
This movie really bothered me. The couple was so inept in trying to understand their situation and were constantly fighting eachother rather than pooling their minds and working together. I really liked the scene where Gemma tricks the boy into revealing his true form, but nothing really comes of it.
Look up coocoobirds. Literally they do this to unsuspecting birds. It's creepy. It's a parasitic relationship. N the birds r kinda doomed. Raise the bird yo be killed by it later or don't raise it n be killed by the mom cuucuubord
The relationship was like that before they got trapped. This battling relationship is common in modern times. Women see men as always saying and doing the wrong things..overly critical. Women, even teachers don't know how to parent. Men, want to please, and don't know how to establish their roles as a father. I have seen this in many families.
@@Blue-hf7xtHe was barely even at an adolescent age tho. The main plan should have been to kill him immediately once they were officially aware it wasn't human. As the man already affirmed repeatedly throughout the film, as it was glaringly obvious. The fact that wasn't part of the story still kinda bothers me. But overall it was a good movie. For those like myself that like mystery.
@@Blue-hf7xtine. Continues to complain about my stepmoms kids but is too scared to stand up to them💀. Also mostly because my stepmom has no accountability for her children. I used to complain about it but I've gotten used to it. They talk to my dad any kind of way. If I try to jump in he gets mad at me so oh well. Anytime they come to me complaining and gossiping about each other I just ignore it because they'll get mad if I say something. Then after a while they'll talk to each other as if they have no problems with each other and the cycle continues. Nowadays moms lack accountability and dads are too scary. I love my dad still but I just can't tell him nothing.
@@Time-hf8nr knowing the foundation they would probably cordon off the real estate agents building. If they found that it was relocating they might feed it D class on a semi regular basis. The GOC on the other hand would probably send in a series of reality anchors followed by a nuke in an attempt to destroy the vivarium.
There is a way to escape that I am not sure has been mentioned. Martin only asks ONE question of them when he is showing them round number 9. 'Have you got children?' They answer no. If they answered yes, I think he would have taken them back. The whole point of the film is for them to rear the offspring children. The aliens may have shown a lack of interest if they had children, as this is the underpinning motivation. Once they say no and Martin leaves, their only other option I think is to then pretend and claim they wish they hadn't lied and their children are waiting for them. May not work but I think this would be the only way.
@@broforcefreedom4936 Then why did the alien ask the question? Why didn't the alien ask what their favorite ice-crean flavor is, or if they own a 2001 Ford Mustang? Or any of the other countless things the aliens wouldnt care about?
@@dunkboyxd6618I did to until I realized that we are coming up with solutions only because we as the viewer know what their in for since we’ve watched the movie. They wouldn’t know to lie about having kids with the hopes of coming back to their dimension because they don’t know what inescapable hell they’re about to be trapped in. It really seems bleak for them no matter what.
If tbe creatures are truly based off cuckoos like the director has stated then its likely theyd just remove the human child from the nest aka hidnapping them and mist likely murdering them to create an empty nest without other young to compete with.
My best guess to beat it would be by having one person walk in a straight line down a road while another watches you from a distance without blinking since the reality warping only happens when your not looking.
The roads aren't straight, they are a series of curved rectangles. You'd only be able to get to the end of a street about 100 meters before having to break line of sight.
How to beat vivarium: Have a backbone. No, seriously- when they were speaking to Martin at the beginning of the film they should have refused to ride with him and went to another real estate agent. Because they didn't have a backbone and wanted to be polite, they got got.
Politeness and cowardice are two different things. Plus, this is not like following a stranger into a dark alley where most likely something bad would happen to you. It's following a real estate agent to a suburban neighborhood. Why would you decide not to do it? Worst case scenario if you get lost, just use google maps to come back.
@@hittingyouoverthehead 1- The real estate agent behaves very strangely 2- Watch the movie, they try to get out and there is no way out The right thing to do is not follow Martin like OP said
@@5Demona5 1- Learn English. Behaving strangely isn't a definition for 'stranger' 2- Try to understand what my point was. I'm not saying you SHOULD follow him. I'm saying there is no reason to not follow him. You don't know going in that he's going to trap you in a multidimensional maze with no way out. You don't have a reason to think that.
@@hittingyouoverthehead people have a reason to be cautious if someone or something acts strange to them. You do have a point though. They believe that the non-human or Matian is an employed real estate agent who has been interviewed, has a resume, etc. In other words, they have the right to believe that they're a normal person who is just socially weird/awkward. They don't have much of a reason to have their guard up. I, personally, would've done a lot more research about stuff like who I'm buying the house from, where, etc. While touring and going into the neighborhood, I think they knew something was off and didn't want to interrupt the agent. The reason could be politeness or cowardice. I don't think we know enough about the protagonists to pin-point a reason. You could refute this by saying she saved the martian kid so isn't it cowardice? That point is plausible but she's a lot more or a little more mentally ill by then. When I say mentally ill, I'm not specifically saying things like disorders. It could be small things like clouded judgement, etc. I think it's important to note how she saved the kid because of morals, not because she wanted to escape. Interesting note: while watching this movie, I couldn't help but think about white-room prisons.
Best Possible Way To Beat This Movie, My Theory: During the movie the 'mother' played the game of pretend with the child and managed to get an answer, & IT WORKED! So the 'mother' can use the child and play the game of "doing", later the main characters can ask the child to get them out of the weird world they are stuck in
Yes. But it was too late by then because the alien child had its first lesson with its master. If it was engrained in it not to let them out; it wasn't going to do it.
I didn't get the impression it was the food that was making them sick. I thought that Tom was sick from exposure to the alien soil he had been digging, and Gemma was either too tired to resist, or had simply resigned to her fate, when the boy put her in the body bag.
Maybe it wasn't the food, per se. Or not ONLY the food. While they did say the food was tasteless and made them feel sick, it could have been the entire bubble they were placed in making them sick.
@@chrystalminor1422or the fact that Tom hit his head on that concrete😭. Causing internal bleeding. Remember the women didn't get sick the alien smothered her in a bodybag. Also not to mention he dragged her down the stairs hitting her head.
I just watched this movie for the third time now. It's so damn thought provoking and bloody well written/acted/made. There's these small clues all the way through. You pick up on more and more every time you see it. I have such respect for the creators. A true uncompromising peace of art!
A lot of comments are just elaborating on the two suggested ways of getting out but here's a piece of info that strikes me: when they dig the hole, they aren't given a fresh house AND as we learn later in the film, other, extra-dimensional houses are occupied (ie: theres not so much space between you and the next family). It's not concrete but this suggests that there are a finite number of houses and the creatures do no express ultimate control. While it's more likely to simply turn you into a threat, rather than a parent for their fake-child, it's not unfounded to think if you keep destroying homes, they'll run out of homes to give you or, at least, realise that you are not fit parents. It doesn't ensure they'll let you out, to me they're liable to minecraft-craft you into a corpse, but even in the event they decide to kill you off, you can at least die knowing you put strain on their operation without giving them anything to show for it.
They leave the hole because they want him to continue to dig, because it's ultimately pointless, because it looks like progress and so he will keep doing it, being occupied, being exhausted after, not having time or energy to think about a real escape. It's a job he is supposed to keep working, until he eventually dies.
@@Szanth but if they had full control over the space, they'd just remove the bodies or place it in an infinite other-house. The aliens shouldn't need a hole to be dug at all.
@@creativedesignation7880 while it's quite possible that its psychological, the aliens lack of knowledge on human behaviour, afterall, needing humans to train the child to act like a human, leads me to believe their understanding of the psyche is not so vast.
@@Bailf006 They don't *need* it to be dug. But it's part of the cycle. Because they're a metaphor. The cycle is a metaphor. So there are some things that are supposed to happen, as part of the metaphor. You kill yourself digging a useless hole you yourself are then buried in.
My solution: 1. Don't eat the food. It's clearly bad for you. Try to survive as long as you can on an empty stomach, or eat your fingers/toes if you have to. You might consider eating the kid too, but since it's essentially an alien, it might be toxic to humans. That neck bulge doesn't look very appetizing. 2. Read the kid bedtime stories from the book, but make up your own interpretation. The child seems to learn and mimic human speech and mannerisms, so you might be able to confuse him by teaching to read the book wrong. if he gets taught different things from 2 different sources, he might get confused enough to reveal essential information. 3. Tell the kid he can't leave the house unless he tells and shows you where he's going every day. If he's meant to be your child, then you can ground him. Also, don't let him watch the creepy hypno-tv. It will rot his brains. 4. if he refuses to show you where he goes to school, tie him up, and put him in the car. Then tell him you'll keep driving until you're out of town. the kid has some level of reality-warping powers, as evidenced by him lifting up the sidewalk and crawling under it. 5. If all else fails, kill the kid and stay up all night watching the body. Maybe he comes back to life, maybe he gets replaced. The world basically gets reset after every night, but it might not happen if you stay awake.
You cant survive off eating your own fingers and toes. Plus eating you're fingers would immensely disable your ability to operate anything. Also you'd die of dehydration way before you starved.
i wonder what would have happened if they burned the book and destroyed the tv. they would most likely send new copy's every day but if kept destroying them the child would grow into an adult without ever having made contact with it's own kind. it might be more inclined to help them in that case. Another idea might be that if they realized that they have no hope of escaping BUT they could help the next couple. when they realized that the child copied their every move they could have decided to teach it the wrong things, so when they die and the child goes on to be the next estate agent it would act wrong. like say they teach it that to puff up it's neck is something you do when meeting new people, it would break it's cover as a human right away.
@@ajafterparty I mean, they could have guessed based on the interaction with the alien at the beginning.... They live such short lives, it would be obvious to anyone that they were recruited for the job, and that they were raising a new recruiter.
This kinda reminded me of the Jojo side story "Thus spoken Kishibe Rohan" where a hamanoid organism whose only goal is to die at the sight of it's lover. It dies in a way where it looks like the lover killed it, it bleeds infinitely and the "corpse" dries but never decays. In a sense it bounds its mate or lover with the guilt of it's death thus keeping them together. Very Bizarre, and very good as well.
Something you could do is when raising the shield make it a inhuman as possible just completely weird and insane and even if you die. When it try’s luring people it won’t act human making people weirded out so less people making them leave.
wow my worst fear…the suburbs.. Honestly though this movie combines pretty much all of the worst elements of my dreams: saturated lighting, routine that slowly drives you crazy, tasteless food, the feeling of being trapped. It’s bonkers I’ve never heard of this before now
Pocket nuke, or if one could maybe drive off with a baby version of the creature in the car, the mere presence of the baby might allow them to find the exit, if might be like putting a 2D thing in a car with you, if you drive it probably will be disoriented but still fine so long as you drive slow
Eh, I didn’t get the impression that the child was ever “tricked” into exposing anything - I think everything it did was with some instinctual cruelty, emotional manipulation is how it hunts and it was only continuing to come to age in that scene.
5:27 if the creature is multi dimension, lets assume 4-space, it could just slip into one of the infinite hyperplanes to escape and has no reason to go under the curb
When she followed the Alien she became a 4th dimensional human, however she did not know how to traverse it. I am assuming other humans they had captured may have figured out how to travel the 4th dimension and escape, so the Aliens built a failsafe with the food that made humans sick so they never had enough time nor felt well enough to access and travel the 4th dimension and escape.
Not necessarily, we are 3d creatures and in order to move through a 2d slice of a house we'd still need to use the doorways because the 2d slice of our body that intersects that plane still needs to fit through the door in order to leave. I think it's more akin to a 3d organism with the ability to move along a fourth axis, rather than being constructed in four dimensions. Non-Euclidean space where a straight line doesn't move in a straight direction would be possible with this "3.5d" theory, like if you took a 2d animal from a flat plane and put it onto the surface of spherical planet, it could travel in straight lines in any direction and still end up in the original position, even though this makes no sense to the animal. In order for you to leave that planet, you'd still need a method of egress even though you're 3d. The way this movie treats extradimensional space is my favorite piece of media ever tbh
@@amukakuma that is literally the opposite of what's true. A 3 dimensional being could interact with every part of a 2 dimensional plane, because definitionally no 2 dimensional obstacle is 3 dimensional. Also non-euclidean space where moving in a straight line results in returning to your starting position is already possible and real. It's called sphere.
The true solution is that the government should look into these multitude of disappearances and then proceed to shut down the real estate agency and could make restrictions on real estate companies tighter to prevent it from reappearing.
@@boiwutyousaywatupdawg5314 Economics is a tool. Not an end in itself. Assume creatures without any empathy exist and it follows they'd seek positions of influence to protect their operations; and if it leads to disposable humans suffering, so be it. On a related note, have you seen that interview with the Pfizer CEO where his neck is bugging out exactly the same way? th-cam.com/video/CD8tKbE7duA/w-d-xo.html
Since we know they have white paint they could just make numbered pathways out from their house. For example: in any scene where they are on a roof, you could begin to mark the roofs of other houses in a straight line, creating a path to follow, in an attempt to map the plane of existence. It would help you to form a very basic understanding of the world. Also collecting resources from other houses, building your own house, a tower, ziplines, figuring out where the power and water come from, etc.
Nothing could be mapped because the houses were all the day he same. That would be pointless the only way of escape was the alien boy who knew the only way of leaving the simulation.
Honestly the whole time I was just thinking I'd murder the little bugger regardless of my own life. If I can't live (or leave I guess in this case), then neither can he.
I actually check this movie out, and there is another way. The real estate agent at the beginning of the movie is putting out hardcore creeper vibes. Maybe it's too late by the time they get to the house, but if I was in that situation, I'd think this guy either wanted to kill me or have a three-way. A three-way being the best-case scenario, the real estate agent gives off the vibe like he'd be into some stuff that I wouldn't be okay with - possible poop stuff.
this movie really freaked me out. one of my all time favorites but it is very creepy. the feeling of being trapped somewhere and just knowing you cant escape. horrifying
9:10 exactly what I was thinking, except capture and torture after the first disappearance. This way he probably knows how to travel and is young enough to be overpowered. The longer you wait after that, I assume it will only get tougher.
Its easy to escape just use a nuke as a rocket to fly a way, even if you don't go anywhere, when the nuke falls to the ground it will kill you soo its a win win
Solution 1: Step 1: not allow the child to ever leave the house. Step 2: teach it humanity. Well how to be a human and think like one. Step 3: get it to lead you out. Solution 2: make a bargain to raise as many children as the creatures want as long as you get to live and get released after a preset #. Edit: After seeing some of the replies to this I agree with most of them. These solutions would probably not work like the ones film herald presented yet they are possible.
the second solution wont work. Make a bargain to whom? The aliens don't really care about them, they don't communicate maybe they can't and that's why they need humans to raise their kids to act like humans. The only thing they do is keeping them there and they always have more humans anyway to repeat the cicle, they especially don't need troublesome humans so they would just let you die.
Step 1: Don't let the extradimensional child leave the extradimensional pocket home that any crevice of which could suddenly become a slide into other dimensions Step 2: 4head
So they are supposed to incarcerate a child and teach it how to act humanely? That is especially interesting considering what they want him to do is to lead them to freedom, because it's cruel to imprison people... I mean is no one else seeing a contradiction here?
It was nice to see Jesse Eisenberg in this movie. I had not seen him since Now You See Me. He is just as handsome as I remembered, and I am glad he is still rockin’ those curls.
Many people say that Midsommar is very disturbing, but when I watched it was normal but the scene. However, in this film, there is not a lot of blood and organs coming out of the body, but it managed to make me feel very disturbing and wanted to finish this film quickly.
Perhaps the suburban area functions similar to the field from "in the tall grass",in that the kid doesnt just know how to escape,but that the only way to see the path out is with the child in the car. if this is the case,then you could use pne of many household objects such as chairs,telivisions,utility hammers,or the shovel which was used to dig the hole. then you could place the unconscious child in a car's trunk and then lock him in,and potentially you could escape.
The best action is prevention. Never go with a real estate agent unless you've communicated with actual people who have used them happily. In short, check your references. Preferably someone you already know. And true real estate agents probably don't look like Mormons.
In the fairy world eating the food traps you and makes it so you can’t leave, if they never ate the food, the original attempts at escape might have worked
When the alien is hit, it runs away. So, essentially it has a survival instinct. Essentially, if they catch the alien and threaten it's survival. The couple can potentially use it to manipulate dimensions ex. Tie him down or chop off the legs but leave one arm and then threaten to kill him or torture him to get out.
They could trick the kid in to thinking they’re going to bring him some where like a theme park or something outside the poker dimension and if he falls for it they might be able to escape.
There is no way to escape not only because of the fact that they're in an extra-dimensional space, but because they are also obviously being actively monitored and anything they can try that would possibly extricate them would likely be countered. One thing that could be tried is to make alcohol from the food given, then get the kid stupid drunk (if the critters are even affected by such) and get him to tell you what's going on. Then maybe you could do something from there. But again, if they're being actively monitored, that might not work either.
Closest thing to Lovecraftian as of late as the main staple of a good Lovecraft is an unknowable cosmic entity. It couldn't be reasoned with. It couldn't be understood.
Well hang on now I think you found it in your explanation. If the monster is truly afraid to die, showing it that it’s family won’t come for it could be the manipulation tactic that you need. Sorta like saying “I am your only hope, save us and we will protect you, look at how your kind will let you die”
1:50 Their first mistake after realizing they're trapped. There is no reason at this point to believe that whoever has them trapped will keep their word in the end and actually release them. Clearly the situation their in is other-worldy/magical. The only solution at that point would be to kill the alien baby. Even if it doesn't mean escape, the last thing you should do is follow instructions in this situation.
2:30 This should've been the point of no return for the couple. Meaning that they definitely should have done everything in their power to kill the alien child.
I watched another video about this movie. It talked about the possibility that the reason these creatures do this, is to learn how to become human properly. Because if they learn how to properly 'become' humans, then they can actually intergrade themselves into normal society, possibly make more pocket dimensions, and end up controlling the planet due to their abilities. After all, from the movie, it seems that the creatures gain nothing from this, they only complete a life cycle. Everything has some type of purpose, so what would their purpose be if not what I stated it could be?
Just survival, it is natural for them. They live such quick lives, it may make sense for them to have other species raise the young for that reason, as well as their seemingly obvious lack of empathy (they would all be bad parents anyway, maybe worse than most humans). They only barely need to pass the smell test as far as 'being human.' If they get caught they can literally just leave our dimension! And if there were too many of the creatures at one time, they would run out of host parents quickly by human standards.. One full HUMAN lifespan would be long enough for like 70 of the aliens generations to be born and raised. That is a LOT of missing couples, it would be noticed if their numbers were very large. They may be able to do this with all sorts of various species all over the universe or even other dimensions, the way they travel. If that is the case, they are already an untouchable (as a collective) dominant species, just not in an overt, or showy way.
This movie triggered me more than I thought it would. Just picturing my wife being forced into hell until we die is the saddest possible fate for someone you love. All the couples in this world are so tragic.
I don't see a solution but I think it would be wise to disobey everything you are led to do. Never go back inside the house just live in your car, don't eat the food, ignore the child and don't let it study you. I think we can assume they have been studying humans extensively and are convinced that an infant human won't be harmed by the couples that they trap; so you have to kill the baby. I think extremely erratic behaviour might work as an escape method. It could get you kicked out but it could also do nothing or get you killed. But you're going to die miserable there anyway so it might be worth a try. However, erratic behaviour will very probably improve their study of human behaviour and make things harder for future trapped humans. The most important thing is to not raise the child. It's the only way to slow (and possibly/hopefully eventually break) the cycle. So as many of the parasites as possible need to be killed. I assume it would be almost impossible to do without the knowledge that it isn't a human baby but a parasitic imposter, incapable of humility, that will perpetuate an endless cycle of trapping more humans until the human race is decimated and replaced by these creatures.
The problem is they didn't know they were gonna die a miserable death. It's not until the man child tells Genna near the end that it's time for Tom to 'be released' that they could have known 'released' meant death not let out
@@Rando_mIndividual the thing with that is calls to 911 or 112 will always use the best service you can get where you are, so even if say, I use EE and it has no signal, if Vodafone had signal I'd still be able to call 911, but in the movie no providers would have signal
Respect for commenting on the thematic topics of the movie and not just going along with "oh well they're aliens" as though only the literal events that happen are important, even if that's not really something that affects the video itself. Way too many people out there shitting on films because they've trained themselves to look at art through a hyper-literal lens.
Why not visit other houses and barge in, and, instead of digging a hole, you basically "Minecraft" your way across by just building a long ass bridge, why? Because we know that when they used a car or travelled by foot, they didn't have any landmark to use as a reference to where they were. Instead, by building a bridge that starts from the house, you clearly know that the planks behind you are "Oh, bridge, that leads me to my home" so you wont get lost. But honestly? Don't buy houses from a neighbourhood that look copy-pasted from one-another. If I was them, and I saw that we were approaching Yonder, I'd just unbuckle my seatbelt, open the door, jump out and roll before we reach the sign.
"Don't buy houses from a neighbourhood that look copy-pasted from one-another." dude, idk where you live but in my country this is common lmfao. (except the houses are all painted different colours)
the child drove out while they couldnt, so maybe tying him up then walking with him in a straight line could help them get out? the child must be the key to stop the loop that keeps bringing them to house 9
This movie was so unsettling. The fact that the only thing the main characters accomplished in the end was digging a hole for themselves to be buried in just gives me an overall sense of hopelessness for surviving such a scenario. You never know how you would react… but I seriously think I would just continue walking, ignoring the child, and endlessly searching for an exit until I starved to death. I can’t see myself just accepting the situation and trying to coexist with an alien. Fuck that, I’ll be looking for a way out, no matter how hopeless.
In short, this is one of those horror movies where survival and escape has such ridiculously unlikely odds, it’s either impossible or nearly impossible to get close to even a draw. I’m not really a fan of these kinds of movies since a chance to survive keeps me on my toes and makes me want to see it to the end. And you could argue that it’s not trying to do that, it’s trying to critique aspects of society. And you’re right. From what I hear, it succeeds at what it’s tying to do. It’s just a bit frustrating from a entertainment perspective because it’s like gunning your heroes against an all-powerful who controls fate and reality- why should I care if the side I’m rooting for is always gonna lose under the set conditions? If you ask me, giving the heroes a chance to survive makes the movie more interesting and gives a more accurate portrayal of the critiques it’s making- yes, the system is screwed, but the system can be beaten and/or changed. And it adds entertainment value in wondering what they could’ve done differently that could’ve lead to a good outcome.
It's not that kinda of movie, the whole movie was social commentary on how our lives go to "die" in suburbia. Mortgages, children, "settling-down," are ideas and life-goals that we as people just kind of accept forever. If they had escaped, then the entire message of the movie would have been invalidated.
@@Matt-ux8hh I’m not saying they had to escape, I’m saying if they had made us think they had a chance to survive, it may have been a bit more engaging. Still, I get your point, like I said, people will make argument that the movie’s trying to critique society, not give us a survival scenario, and you’re right. I just think that instead of it being a horribly doomed scenario, it could’ve had some hope to keep you on your toes, only to dash it away so the movies themes can be reinforced.
What if one of the adults could of put themselves in the disposable box, left out daily (the trash). Maybe aliens would of removed the box before discovering a human inside of it? But I doubt the aliens would fall for such a trick.
TLDR: Give me a knife and that book and maybe I can turn that child into a key Explanation: From how Jenna 'falls' through the different spaces it is possible that the creatures exist in a polarized state, and have active control over this state. If it was possible to take advantage of this active polarization via the child, you could effectively use the child as a key to leave without needing the other creatures to let you out. This is referring to polarized light that moves in a certain dimension, and the depiction of this world shows that possibly the matter around them is also polarized.
I want a Vivarium 2 where the couple who gets trapped in Yonder is a couple of sadistic monster psychos. Show us what happens if they torture, kill, dismember, burn the alien child. Make others of his kind appear and deliver punishment. Make the psycho couple too deranged to take punishment as such. Make the final battle a Machiavellian monster-vs-monster affair.
Imagine if they lure a psychopath couple that just pretends to be nice. So, they do some unspeakable thing to the entity that it died painfully. And scared the living crap of the other entities that might be watching them.
Possible solutions, let me know if I have any flaws because I’m sure I missed something: -follow the child when he leaves to get lessons from aliens (may be where he got the gasoline too) -she had the kid show his alien nature so maybe he can show her the language to understand the book -the book has pictures to understand, maybe they can find an escape (ex. like the under sidewalk shortcut, just a safer one) -restrain the child and bring him along, he did say only way in/out was with the aliens so imma take notes from his “in the tall grass” video and just say pick up that little shit and go for a hike -if all else fails, they could have tried to kill the child earlier or waited until he was close to death in the car. Possible the aliens didn’t care because the child wasn’t in a near-death state I mean it was in the car for like one day not even
I don’t think threatening to kill the child would work either because they seem to just pop out of an incubation facility requiring very little effort to produce.
Ok so, basically its obviously a long shot but there might be a way to free yourself and ideally even profit from the whole situation. If we look at the "kid" we see that although he/his species can manipulate space it still seems both mentally and physically affectable by the "parents". Especially in the earlier times when they seemed to have some more or less genuine moments like the impression game and Tom was able to lock him in the car without any problems. Also, even when the "child" was almost fully grown, it was still afraid of Gemma armed with a simple pickaxe, referring that the species is still susceptible to physical harm and probably don't posses any "supernatural fighting abilities". Now this method presumes that the couple the realtor tricked into the Yonder is somewhat psycho. However taking all that was previously mentioned into account you can probably achieve near complete control over the creature by torturing it to the limit where its mind breaks. Very much akin to what Ramsay Snow did to Theon/Reek in GOT, where he was mentally so broken that until Sansa/Jane entered the scene he wouldn't have betrayed Ramsey even when given the chance due to all the torture and brainwashing. Now having a multidimensional being under your control can not only set you free from Yonder but also lets you walk into the vaults of banks, discover the dirtiest secrets of Biden and Trump and as we saw in the last part of the movie, probably also materialise items to say the least. The obvious counterargument to this is that the other "creatures" would intervene and not allow it. However if we follow the example of cuckoos the parents set the child up with fake parents for exactly the reason that they don't care what happens to it and dont want to worry or care of it, so intervention might not be as probable as one thinks. It is of course also possible that the parent will choose a couple the he/she senses is mentally malleable enough and least likely to hurt the child, and thus the said scenario will never take place. Just my two cents on the topic
Now if i got caught out within this situation, i would try to do what i could are these ideas. 1: Ignore their rules, As they want to have those captured to raise the "Child" into being an adult, frankly with the chances that you're not going to escape the best idea would be to ignore what they want you to do for them. Don't raise the child they give you, keep it within the car as it's earth made so they can't escape the car, allowing you to continue what you can until the child dies, keeping up the cycle as many times as possible, rather than trying to escape the never-ending loop. 2. Raise the kid as your actual own. As we see the kid is meant to mimic everything you do as they grow up, however rather than sending the kid to it's school, keep the kid at home and home school the child or even keep the kid under wraps, doing whatever possible to make it as human as possible learning empathy and compassion in order to try to get the child who ends up becoming an adult to feel like a human, not knowing of their original race to help at least to get out 3. Raise the kid version 2, have the kid translate the symbols and glyphs as you watch it get older as you figure your ways out so the book or the tv can be understandable but keep the kid close enough to see where it goes then begin able to use their abilities to try finding a way out with their abilities. 4. Ignore everything, Don't give into their demands, don't eat their food, don't stay in the house, don't raise the kid. So whatever it takes to survive and try to do whatever possible.
The creature can't escape the car once locked in, and at that point has the knowledge and ability to navigate Vivarium and understands fear (screaming). Bargaining isn't necessary, the creature itself can be forced to help you escape under threat of pain or death, or failing rendering any help, consumption. If it can't help us escape, it will temporarily benefit us by being legitimate food. We shouldn't call it a "child" cuz that's what a human is when its in its' pre-adult phase and conflating this thing with one of us might distract us from our goal of survival! Just like with a cowbird, you can't win by playing the game directly, you have to be a violent, vindictive little corvid and out-brutalize them to get them to stay away. Its a sacrifice play, cowbirds will destroy your eggs if you don't raise theirs but Jenna proves that even though we're limited to our 3rd Dimension, we do present a physical threat to the creature(s) (as it tries to escape in fear of her). Just like corvids (which are formidable threats among birds), we pose a practical physical threat to young and mature Vivarium Creatures, even if they do disapprove of our interrogating/eating them, what're they gonna do? Hide? "We both lose" is a gamble both corvids and humans are willing to make!
Just gotta say whoever came up with the "the child just picks up the whole damn sidewalk and flees" is a genius. The entire movie was confusing, but that scene really just cements how bonkers the movie is.
It literally horrified me for some reason?? It was like the last bit of logic you held onto finally evaporated.
Great choice to use the word cement there.
cements, ha
@@coronin8587 its concrete though, not cement, cement is a component in concrete
@@shyowl3453 oh shut up
To anyone who hasn't seen the movie-the kid acts completely alien, so convincing the child to do anything would not work.
Not only acts. The whole neighborhood was created by non-humans and they're experimenting on couples. They think all humans need are the basic survival things like food and a family. The issue is that the non-humans don't understand what food tastes like or how a kid should act, so they fail at making a normal neighborhood. Hence, the title Vivarium where birds are also kept in captivity with things they need to survive off of while they're being observed. The shorter summary is based on the saying "yah, you're surviving but are you living?"
though the child never truly has healthy interactions with the "parents" either this movie really made me think would if the BEST CASE human couple arrived in the vivarium as in a couple absolute desprate for kids they cant have and a desire isolation from the human world thus there are happy raising the alien young.
i wonder how the aliens would react perhaps with a geuine bond one could explain to the child to tell his real parents the problems with the vivarium aka lack of sensation and how it affects there human health and if it was changed they could raise MORE then one kid for them perhaps even raising DOZENS for them considering a healthy humans lifespan of 80 to 90 years.
cause it seems the aliens just find humans well alien in mentality they think yonder is as close to heaven as a human could want not even comphrending how the lack of sensations taste and touch slowly kills human beings who require those senses for there well being.
i always thought the alien child was a rather clear metaphor for the neurodivergent child
the parents go the worst case real life scenario basically
when the main character tried to be compassionate and to find common ground everything was going nice
if they didn't let media and strangers to raise their kid, maybe it would work out
I don’t understand why they didn’t just kill him when he was a baby or small child once they realize the bastard isn’t human and say fuck you I’m not raising your little shit!
@@averagechadlegionary5824 raising him was their only chance at leaving
Since the creature mimics human behavior, the parents could act totally insane, speak gibberish, violent. That would possibly break the cycle for at least one of the alien children
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Most people in this world Comply, they don't break cycles.
@@Blue-hf7xtI’m the opposite
I have spent the last 30minutes reading the comments to this video. They are such a wonderful showcase of human creativity and different approaches to problem solving as we all as different values. From "eat the kid", through "convince the kid to show you the way out" to "show the kid you love them and through that provoke compassion". Someone should take this entire section and archive it!
true
The eat the kid thing is so weird
funny
I guess most people here in comments would not find a way out..ha ha
I know I would find a way out.
@@Cocoonel yes..very weird. The concept, you are what you eat would mean you would become alien.
Eat the kid, obviously 🤣 wtf man
Gotta remember the title of the movie. Vivarium. They're literally just being observed and studied on their actions by what can only be assumed to be a higher being we can't see. The real estate agent was a lure that captured them the same way fish are drawn to bait while fishing. This movie is brilliant because it makes you ask the question "What if human's weren't the top of the food chain, and instead fished and kept as pets just like a common goldfish?"
It reminded me of the Truman show where Truman is watched his whole life
Exactly. Think of a fish trying to escape a fish tank...Even if it does it dies. Think of outside the fish tank as the dimension the creatures live in watching the fish. It's impossible.
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@@mobileebikerentals2940 And yet octopuses at aquariums have pulled it off and reached the ocean
No not higher beings. parasites
By not going with a suspicious real estate agent. The end.
Yeah you could find better real estate agents and if I find a neighborhood that are the same I am pulling out of there.
Hindsight is 20/20. He may have seemed weird, but he wasn't leading them to some back-alley, it seemed on the up and up until it was too late.
Realtor: I'm going to show you this beautiful neighborhood called yonder-
Me: ohhhh sorry no I don't do HOAs
I've beat the movie
@@sanscoolson5125 once you enter you're trapped
By staying indoors
If they can "trap" the child, and the creatures do not intervene to save it, then theoretically wouldn't it also be possible to withhold the child from its lessons with its own kind?
I think you are right. they might come for it then if the child stops attending. But couldn't they just open the door without being seen like when they drop off the food?
@@Diogenes323 It still forces them to make more decisions and take more actions which increases the likelihood of them making a mistake, which is pretty much the only possible way to escape from this scenario- if the captors make a mistake.
good idea. My guess is that if they are only able to manipulate dimensions at a certain age, the child would not be able to get out the trap by warping reality or some weird stuff. Buttt he does seem to appear out of thin air..
@@Diogenes323 tie the creature to you.
@@WillButtlerYeets could you withstand its screams? they look unbearable in the movie
I think the key to their escape may be the book the child brings. While in a language they can’t understand, the book IS shown to have pictures, which means it could have use to it. Maybe the book could indicate a method of escape, and if they analyze the pictures enough, or perhaps trick or force the child to read the book to them, they could understand their situation better and possibly find a crack in the wall.
This plus they should try to stop the kid from going to "school" after seeing what it's doing to him. It might not be possible since he may have learned how to walk through spaces at this point, but they should try to stop the indoctrination.
@@alanhegewisch4486 they should just stop him from watching that tv
honestl, i would find raising the child to be a pretty ineresting experience.
yes, id lose my mind eventually. but while i was still sane id have a blast asking the kid all sorts of questions.
how far away is your home planet? what is life like beyond the keiper belt? etc...
@@lardlover3730 but the kid wouldnt answer those silly, it'd be hell
@@lardlover3730 it would be more the opposite since I think the solution is to teach the kid different stuff. Compassion might be the most important thing. Now that would not be easy since you are forced into the whole situation. But the kid itself hadn't done anything wrong yet.
“Oh look honey they put a baby in this box”
“I’ll fire up the oven, finally some good food”
You win they gone be like so here's something we didn't expect
Nah, best case scenario- they give you another baby with words in the box that tells you to raise it or die...
And worst case scenario- you are killed...
Wait, is that good food safety?
Nah bro later a new baby will be delivered wait what😳 new baby new food woaah
tcoaal ahh moment
I've just watched the movie with a friend and as soon as I saw the houses, I was like "And that's the moment, I'm turning the car around, because I already know, I don't want to live in this environment." Also we found so many things to pass the time there that sounded much less depressing than digging a hole.
Great concept, but the movie's delivery is less than pragmatic at times. Really found that frustrating at times.
There might be a sunk cost fallacy at play, since they drove a long way to get to Yonder. It would also be impolite to the realtor. By the time they turn left, the sky turns into the Vivarium sky and they're trapped forever. Point of no return.
At that point, in the film, it's already too late.
Teach the child the usual human greeting of "I am an extra-dimensional being here to kidnap you."
That’s actually kind of smart tho! While it wouldn’t save the protagonists, it could theoretically prevent future couples from getting trapped. Though we would have to assume that the current aliens wouldn’t correct this behavior. (The current aliens would have been taught by other humans in the past, so we can probably assume that they have correct knowledge of humans, and likely enough so to understand that this is not in fact a normal human greeting.) This maybe could help as a long term solution for future couples, but it depends on how extensive the current alien’s understanding of humans is, and also how many mature aliens they have trapping humans at a given time. If it’s only one (which is very unlikely), then theoretically this could stop this cycle. But there are probably a lot of aliens trapping humans at any given time, so it’s more likely than not that this wouldn’t actually help stop the cycle, only save a few lucky future couples who happen to speak to the specific alien that was taught to say this.
@@sirisso3974 I once worked with a guy whose father taught him silver was called "gold" and gold was called "silver." He knows it's wrong, but the right way still doesn't come naturally. You could at the very least get the child talking so strangely that it couldn't sell real estate.
@@gail_blue That's a good point!
genius
Nice, that would lead to the creatures extinction 🦤 🦣 the long game 😎
I watched this movie a few weeks ago and immediately after was like, "how has he NOT done this yet?" Thank you so much for doing this weird movie, I'm so happy!
After I watched the movie months ago, I thought I ate something that was making me trip
Saw the cinema summary or I think it was the dead meat video a year or two ago
The Bible says in John 3:16-36 that whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life, the Bible also says in Romans 10:9 that those who declare with their mouth that Jesus Christ is their God, Lord, and Savior they shall be saved. Revelation 1:8 says that Jesus is the alpha and the omega. Luke and revelation is the ending times, and Jesus is returning back. So are you going to submit your life to him or no? Narrow is the path that leads to the gates of heaven, but only few people find it. The gates that is the path to destruction is where many people find it! Jesus loves you SO MUCH! That he died on the cross, and was resurrected from the dead 3 days later to give us eternal life..’znz
Are you an alien child?
@@slimeplayz164 can you give a link?
restrain the kid, put it in the car, drive. The kid would likely limit the location manipulation they pull off. if not, the kid would also be like WTF and would likely be able to figure out a way to lead them out before being mindfcked by its own kind.
The car was out of gass. The grown up kid fills it up at the end of the movie.
@@VolteraXdon't waste the gas at the beginning, lol.
Just drive over the kid. Or properly use the pickaxe.
@@Flamme-Sanabi It's a pocket dimension that they have complete control over, such that they can make things instantly appear and disappear at will.
You think they can't get the fuckin gas out of a car?
@@Szanth
1. Bold of you to assume that I think when I do such comments.
2. They can still carry the child and walk, I guess.
Real Estate Agent: Do you have a car? Follow me
My husband and me: Follow him out of the parking lot and then turn in the opposite direction.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
he didn't even say car, just VEHICLE, everything that happens in the movie is made to sicken the characters or even the viewer to death
I would love to see a part 2 and this time, the couple is actually a psychotic duo
Or an scp style hunter group.
that would be kind of awesome.
I think the thing is though that only the blandest most milquetoast of couples would ever end up here. Because that’s exactly the kind of couple these creatures need to raise them. Anyone who doesn’t fit that bland stereotype would have dipped long before these guys, and therefore wouldn’t have become ensnared. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy.
@@HeyItsNovaleevivarium reminds me of the new James McAvoy film “Speak No Evil” where his character tests his victims to see how susceptible they are to manipulation and abuse before he makes his move.
The only hope we might have of finding a way out for our doomed duo would be if there is some fault in the premise: if reality is not portrayed accurately. The characters believe that they, for example, drove in a completely straight line only to end up where they started and this would be a pretty doomed situation if they were correct but we have reason to believe that their sense of reality is warped. We’re given a pretty compelling reason within the text to distrust the food so my first assumption was that the food was drugged in some way. Adding on top of that the absurdity of the situation and the all too convenient bouts of fatigue and death, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that whatever is trapping them is capable of messing with their perceptions as well. This is still incredibly tricky, as the protagonists are still left in a situation where they can’t conceive of an exit even if one theoretically exists. For all we know, there could be drugs present on surfaces or in the air rather than the food (hell, maybe they regularly get injected with hallucinogens and they just can’t remember) so they probably couldn’t avoid any foreign psychoactive substances that might be messing with their brains.
All that said, I do think there is one option that hasn’t been considered: If the [cuckoo alien whatevers] have trapped them here and placed them with a baby, continually supplying them with sustenance, they must have some interest in keeping the humans alive (at least for long enough for the humans to raise the cuckoo baby). A single baby might be disposable enough to the [creepy Book of Mormon monsters] but they seem to go through a lot of trouble to keep the humans alive and trapped so they could try bargaining with their own lives. Pulling a Hunger Games double-suic SIKE probably won’t allow them to negotiate their freedom but it could force the [white collar weirdos] to show their hand more, potentially giving our pair a slightly better chance of retaliating. It’s not a foolproof strategy by any means but making a threat against yourself is one of the more consistent options imo because it works in multiple contingencies: if the [suburban sickos] are real and keeping them trapped intentionally, this would allow them to bargain, and if this is more of a hallucination situation making a threat against yourself probably gives you the best chances of someone intervening on your behalf (with a better outcome than “psycho high on drugs attempts to kill child). They may be doomed to lose no matter what they do but they could at least try to be non cooperative to prevent their adversaries from winning.
that was my first thought as well. even hopping though the spaces at the end didn't show many couples so they must put a lot of stock into those they do have. starving themselves may make the aliens have to engage with them than just with boxes, which could lead to them making a mistake or giving them clues on how to escape. Plus like you said, if they are being drugged though the food it would serve a double purpose.
Semi-unrelated but I absolutely love the placeholder names you gave the [suburban lifesuckers]
I like this theory, but Idk about them bargaining with their own lives because if you noticed in one of the realities/dimensions/whatever that Gemma fell through there was a man lying dead in a bath tub and it was suggested that he took his own life, so it's hard to say whether or not they really care too much about both of them being alive, especially if the child is already mostly done maturing. That being said it might be a good idea to try for the one who's left if the other were to somehow die super early on.
A tldr
This is a very good option but personally I would try and bring a pocket nuke with me
Hear me out, I think i found a way how they could have beaten it.
This sounds a lot like faries (or something along that line) from certain mythologies, i think Japanese or Chinese; but Asian for sure.
a lot of points struck me as familiar, for example:
- Bringing you into their world that looks a lot like an uncanny valley version of ours.
- imitating humans.
- The whole focus on food.
I legitimately think one way for them to escape would have been not to eat the food,
since fairy food apparently traps you in their world, drains your energy and slowly kills you (sounds familiar), while eating real food sort of "pulls" you back out, of course they would've needed to know this before hand but still.
Best interpretation...That makes absolute sense, for it to be based on fairy lore...The kid being some version of a changeling, etc...
Fairies? 🤨 It pretty clearly established that they're aliens. Iirc, they showed their true form. 🤔
They didn't have any food. They would've starved.
@@Szanth Then thats how they beat them, die, and not raise the child.
@@user-vn7ce5ig1z It doesn't specifically establish them as "aliens" it more establishes them as non-human
Such a terrifying concept, remind me of the Backrooms
Or Heinleins story "-And He Built a Crooked House-"
Lizzie
@@honda-akari yep, that’s the lady in my profile picture
i wish we had more movies with this vibe
@@bigwolfart5938 there was an episode in the twilight zone with a perfect American suburban neighborhood with everyone having the same house. I think aliens were replacing the people slowly. But yea this concept of same house perfect suburbia has always creeped me out
I like that the villains are bulletproof competent, trully cements how hopeless it is that this isn't their first rodeo.
That sidewalk scene was crazy. Worth watching the whole movie for that shocking moment.
in all honoesty, killing the child right after you discover it isn't human, might be a way to at least cure your own sanity.
Even when you die of the weird food, at least you ruined the extraterrestrial creature's plan with you. (although i do feel like they will just send you another one)
But there's a hope that you will be released if you raise the child
@@dragonmoth96 They were released. Death is the ultimate release.
They just didn't know that's what it meant until it was too late.
"We live to serve man"
Then we kill another one lol
@@Ta2dwitetrash A Small Talent for War
There's a slightly darker route to all of this and I can't believe I'm gonna say this. There's the cannibalism option kill and eat the child. There's a few reasons why this could be an option. 1. It will be a good test to see how the other creatures react to an event such as that. If everything is replaceable the food the house etc. is the child also replaceable do the creatures care that much about it to be disgusted by the action or will it be replaced until the couple just eventually start raising it. 2. It be actual nutrients bar the possibility of the creature flesh being inedible or toxic which is the only downside comparing to living with the fact they went to cannibalism to survive. 3. The aliens/creatures seemingly didn't account for wild cards only conditioning. It's not uncommon for someone to think of the burning down the house option when in a scenario like this or even anyone but an average family falling into the trap it wouldn't be hard to think a crazy people hiding out as an average couple would happen in a neighborhood like that it could honestly be It's own horror movie with the aliens/creatures being the victims. This is really all I can think of considering the options available for escape
This was my thought after hearing using the kid as a bargaining chip. If the food kills you... well there's another possible food source.
Also is it technically cannibalism if the kid is a different species?
After you've eaten the child you will be left to starve to death
@@Thekennel75 then you still win by spiting them. hard to get more couples if their aren't any human raised kids. if every one does it they will eventually have to give up and then you win through a battle of attrition.
@@professorhaystacks6606 I feel like your on to something the time the new real estate agent appears is perfectly timed with the death of the old one so unless they have multiple families going at once the whole cycle could break down with just one family failing to raise the child however this is contradicted by the other familys seen in the under the side walk situation. Also it raises the question of how the cycle began.
@@professorhaystacks6606 I come from a background of alot of sci-fi entertainment so I tend to count cannibalism as the consumption of of one sentient species performed on another sentient species
Ok, somewhat morbid solution, but the first thing I thought of when you said that the food kills them was to eat the child. I doubt that the creatures would poison their own kin. Also, the child arrived in a box, which is what everything else given to them is inside of. So I think the creatures might give them another child which would work as a consistent food source. This is may attract the wrath of the creatures, but they might then reason that the characters aren't worth it, and spit them back out to the real world. It could also just get them killed, but there aren't any options here.
The child might not work as a food source since it isn't human eating your partner might work though but as your only companion it might not work in the long run
@@Thekennel75 dude, a cow isn't human and they are a food source.
@@codysimpson911 a Cone Snail is also not a man but you aint eating that shit are ya
This presumes that the aliens care about rearing the child. What if they're like a lot of animals and bugs which deposit their eggs and take off and just hope for the best? For example, cuckoos put their eggs in another bird's nest and leave.
@@shazam2826 I'll take my chances eating the alien baby.
The older boy knows how to drive out. I think there’s a way to trick him to take you too. Also after he’s attacked he shows Gemma a new way to traverse the world that could have been explored more as a way out.
Pain would work real well.
Here's something interesting, when fleeing the child seemed to be unable to just teleport away, so this tells us that whatever extra dimension the creatures are moving through, they are still present in our dimension when they do it.
Now if we work under the assumption that they can't just teleport away or disappeared from our hands, then we have to ask ourselves one more thing. Are the abilities of these creatures naturally given or learned from the other creatures? If they are naturally given, then you wander around with the baby in your arms, trying to get it to use its ability naturally.
If they are learned, then you would tie up the creature when it's an adult and try to force it to use its abilities.
There are numerous ways we could go about this but the easiest and most promising option is pain. We naturally flinch when we think we're about to get struck, birds fly away if you get too close and fish swim away if they are touched. We try to flee from pain, even the creature as shown in the pickaxe clip.
If you get the creature in your grasp and tie it up so that it won't escape and start inflicting light pain upon it you might get a reaction. Worst comes to worst, you tie it close to your body and threaten it with torture if it doesn't comply to get you out.
Based psychopath
Here's a dumb solution, how about, before the child begins to learn lesson from its own kind, they drive the car with the child inside and ask the child to pick a random direction, my reasoning for this is because I would like to see if he has one of those 'Directections' skills you see animals have, who can't get lost and know where to go, like a pigeon or birds.
This would be a dope plot line for a sequel. What if it did lead you out but it wasn't to our world but instead to a disturbing alien alternate reality that has a much slower rate of time and would cause the humans bodies and world to react differently in their laws of nature (I still would like it to inescapable because comeon us measly 3 dimensional beings cant win)
@@JUMBOTATERS I really want a film adaptation of _Dark Seed._ 😒
They didnt have gas. They ran out of it at the beginning
@@javierriesco5801 they could walk
@@missyummy1040 I like this one
Honestly hate how hopeless the situation is, the second your enemy can bend dimensions, you're just fucked.
Great vid tho.
same, this is a nightmare situation
You could always raise the child. The creature moves on once the mother dies but the parents stressed themselves out and thus died earlier than might be expected, with the guy working himself to death basically. If the creatures are simply lying then it might be impossible, which they are shown to do as the entire thing is a trick, but it's also possible the best solution is to just play along and do so wasting as little energy as possible and they will actually uphold their agreement eventually.
@@nicholascunningham5674 the tasteless food been slowly killing them from day one tho
Only doctor strange can beat him
@@Turing. and scarlet witch🤣🤣
This movie really bothered me. The couple was so inept in trying to understand their situation and were constantly fighting eachother rather than pooling their minds and working together. I really liked the scene where Gemma tricks the boy into revealing his true form, but nothing really comes of it.
Look up coocoobirds. Literally they do this to unsuspecting birds. It's creepy. It's a parasitic relationship. N the birds r kinda doomed. Raise the bird yo be killed by it later or don't raise it n be killed by the mom cuucuubord
The relationship was like that before they got trapped. This battling relationship is common in modern times. Women see men as always saying and doing the wrong things..overly critical.
Women, even teachers don't know how to parent.
Men, want to please, and don't know how to establish their roles as a father.
I have seen this in many families.
Gemma is too horrified and it puts her in a state of shock. Maybe feeling more defeated by learning his true form.
@@Blue-hf7xtHe was barely even at an adolescent age tho. The main plan should have been to kill him immediately once they were officially aware it wasn't human. As the man already affirmed repeatedly throughout the film, as it was glaringly obvious. The fact that wasn't part of the story still kinda bothers me. But overall it was a good movie. For those like myself that like mystery.
@@Blue-hf7xtine. Continues to complain about my stepmoms kids but is too scared to stand up to them💀. Also mostly because my stepmom has no accountability for her children. I used to complain about it but I've gotten used to it. They talk to my dad any kind of way. If I try to jump in he gets mad at me so oh well. Anytime they come to me complaining and gossiping about each other I just ignore it because they'll get mad if I say something. Then after a while they'll talk to each other as if they have no problems with each other and the cycle continues.
Nowadays moms lack accountability and dads are too scary. I love my dad still but I just can't tell him nothing.
The SCP Foundation would have one heck of a field day with this place
İ Want to see how well they do
@@Time-hf8nr knowing the foundation they would probably cordon off the real estate agents building. If they found that it was relocating they might feed it D class on a semi regular basis.
The GOC on the other hand would probably send in a series of reality anchors followed by a nuke in an attempt to destroy the vivarium.
There is a way to escape that I am not sure has been mentioned. Martin only asks ONE question of them when he is showing them round number 9. 'Have you got children?' They answer no. If they answered yes, I think he would have taken them back. The whole point of the film is for them to rear the offspring children. The aliens may have shown a lack of interest if they had children, as this is the underpinning motivation. Once they say no and Martin leaves, their only other option I think is to then pretend and claim they wish they hadn't lied and their children are waiting for them. May not work but I think this would be the only way.
The alien wouldn’t care if they have kids or not.
@@broforcefreedom4936 Then why did the alien ask the question? Why didn't the alien ask what their favorite ice-crean flavor is, or if they own a 2001 Ford Mustang? Or any of the other countless things the aliens wouldnt care about?
I actually really like where you’re going here, you bring up a good point
@@dunkboyxd6618I did to until I realized that we are coming up with solutions only because we as the viewer know what their in for since we’ve watched the movie. They wouldn’t know to lie about having kids with the hopes of coming back to their dimension because they don’t know what inescapable hell they’re about to be trapped in. It really seems bleak for them no matter what.
If tbe creatures are truly based off cuckoos like the director has stated then its likely theyd just remove the human child from the nest aka hidnapping them and mist likely murdering them to create an empty nest without other young to compete with.
My best guess to beat it would be by having one person walk in a straight line down a road while another watches you from a distance without blinking since the reality warping only happens when your not looking.
I had the same thought. But I think eventually you will get tired by walking or by just sitting and watching.
The roads aren't straight, they are a series of curved rectangles. You'd only be able to get to the end of a street about 100 meters before having to break line of sight.
No, it pretty obviously is just happening
They already did that (kinda). Remember they were constantly jumping houses
How to beat vivarium: Have a backbone.
No, seriously- when they were speaking to Martin at the beginning of the film they should have refused to ride with him and went to another real estate agent. Because they didn't have a backbone and wanted to be polite, they got got.
Politeness and cowardice are two different things.
Plus, this is not like following a stranger into a dark alley where most likely something bad would happen to you. It's following a real estate agent to a suburban neighborhood. Why would you decide not to do it? Worst case scenario if you get lost, just use google maps to come back.
@@hittingyouoverthehead 1- The real estate agent behaves very strangely
2- Watch the movie, they try to get out and there is no way out
The right thing to do is not follow Martin like OP said
@@5Demona5 1- Learn English. Behaving strangely isn't a definition for 'stranger'
2- Try to understand what my point was. I'm not saying you SHOULD follow him. I'm saying there is no reason to not follow him. You don't know going in that he's going to trap you in a multidimensional maze with no way out. You don't have a reason to think that.
@@hittingyouoverthehead people have a reason to be cautious if someone or something acts strange to them. You do have a point though. They believe that the non-human or Matian is an employed real estate agent who has been interviewed, has a resume, etc. In other words, they have the right to believe that they're a normal person who is just socially weird/awkward. They don't have much of a reason to have their guard up. I, personally, would've done a lot more research about stuff like who I'm buying the house from, where, etc. While touring and going into the neighborhood, I think they knew something was off and didn't want to interrupt the agent. The reason could be politeness or cowardice. I don't think we know enough about the protagonists to pin-point a reason. You could refute this by saying she saved the martian kid so isn't it cowardice? That point is plausible but she's a lot more or a little more mentally ill by then. When I say mentally ill, I'm not specifically saying things like disorders. It could be small things like clouded judgement, etc. I think it's important to note how she saved the kid because of morals, not because she wanted to escape.
Interesting note: while watching this movie, I couldn't help but think about white-room prisons.
no shit sherlock
Best Possible Way To Beat This Movie, My Theory:
During the movie the 'mother' played the game of pretend with the child and managed to get an answer, & IT WORKED! So the 'mother' can use the child and play the game of "doing", later the main characters can ask the child to get them out of the weird world they are stuck in
👍👍👍
Yes. But it was too late by then because the alien child had its first lesson with its master. If it was engrained in it not to let them out; it wasn't going to do it.
Yup. Be like. Pretend you're leading me back to earth.🤣
@@crissynwrong. If it showed somewhat of what it seen or talked to it could somewhat free them.
I didn't get the impression it was the food that was making them sick. I thought that Tom was sick from exposure to the alien soil he had been digging, and Gemma was either too tired to resist, or had simply resigned to her fate, when the boy put her in the body bag.
Maybe it wasn't the food, per se. Or not ONLY the food. While they did say the food was tasteless and made them feel sick, it could have been the entire bubble they were placed in making them sick.
@@chrystalminor1422or the fact that Tom hit his head on that concrete😭. Causing internal bleeding. Remember the women didn't get sick the alien smothered her in a bodybag. Also not to mention he dragged her down the stairs hitting her head.
I thought Tom got sick from inhaling dirt and smoking, and she died from fatigue travelling through the dimensions
I just watched this movie for the third time now. It's so damn thought provoking and bloody well written/acted/made.
There's these small clues all the way through. You pick up on more and more every time you see it.
I have such respect for the creators. A true uncompromising peace of art!
Like what?
A lot of comments are just elaborating on the two suggested ways of getting out but here's a piece of info that strikes me: when they dig the hole, they aren't given a fresh house AND as we learn later in the film, other, extra-dimensional houses are occupied (ie: theres not so much space between you and the next family). It's not concrete but this suggests that there are a finite number of houses and the creatures do no express ultimate control. While it's more likely to simply turn you into a threat, rather than a parent for their fake-child, it's not unfounded to think if you keep destroying homes, they'll run out of homes to give you or, at least, realise that you are not fit parents. It doesn't ensure they'll let you out, to me they're liable to minecraft-craft you into a corpse, but even in the event they decide to kill you off, you can at least die knowing you put strain on their operation without giving them anything to show for it.
They aren't given a fresh house because digging a hole is part of the cycle. That's why there were bodies in there before.
They leave the hole because they want him to continue to dig, because it's ultimately pointless, because it looks like progress and so he will keep doing it, being occupied, being exhausted after, not having time or energy to think about a real escape. It's a job he is supposed to keep working, until he eventually dies.
@@Szanth but if they had full control over the space, they'd just remove the bodies or place it in an infinite other-house. The aliens shouldn't need a hole to be dug at all.
@@creativedesignation7880 while it's quite possible that its psychological, the aliens lack of knowledge on human behaviour, afterall, needing humans to train the child to act like a human, leads me to believe their understanding of the psyche is not so vast.
@@Bailf006 They don't *need* it to be dug. But it's part of the cycle. Because they're a metaphor. The cycle is a metaphor. So there are some things that are supposed to happen, as part of the metaphor. You kill yourself digging a useless hole you yourself are then buried in.
My solution:
1. Don't eat the food. It's clearly bad for you. Try to survive as long as you can on an empty stomach, or eat your fingers/toes if you have to. You might consider eating the kid too, but since it's essentially an alien, it might be toxic to humans. That neck bulge doesn't look very appetizing.
2. Read the kid bedtime stories from the book, but make up your own interpretation. The child seems to learn and mimic human speech and mannerisms, so you might be able to confuse him by teaching to read the book wrong. if he gets taught different things from 2 different sources, he might get confused enough to reveal essential information.
3. Tell the kid he can't leave the house unless he tells and shows you where he's going every day. If he's meant to be your child, then you can ground him. Also, don't let him watch the creepy hypno-tv. It will rot his brains.
4. if he refuses to show you where he goes to school, tie him up, and put him in the car. Then tell him you'll keep driving until you're out of town. the kid has some level of reality-warping powers, as evidenced by him lifting up the sidewalk and crawling under it.
5. If all else fails, kill the kid and stay up all night watching the body. Maybe he comes back to life, maybe he gets replaced. The world basically gets reset after every night, but it might not happen if you stay awake.
You cant survive off eating your own fingers and toes. Plus eating you're fingers would immensely disable your ability to operate anything. Also you'd die of dehydration way before you starved.
i wonder what would have happened if they burned the book and destroyed the tv. they would most likely send new copy's every day but if kept destroying them the child would grow into an adult without ever having made contact with it's own kind. it might be more inclined to help them in that case.
Another idea might be that if they realized that they have no hope of escaping BUT they could help the next couple. when they realized that the child copied their every move they could have decided to teach it the wrong things, so when they die and the child goes on to be the next estate agent it would act wrong. like say they teach it that to puff up it's neck is something you do when meeting new people, it would break it's cover as a human right away.
The problem is that they don’t have the full picture, they didn’t know they’re raising a new real estate agent.
@@ajafterparty I mean, they could have guessed based on the interaction with the alien at the beginning.... They live such short lives, it would be obvious to anyone that they were recruited for the job, and that they were raising a new recruiter.
This kinda reminded me of the Jojo side story "Thus spoken Kishibe Rohan" where a hamanoid organism whose only goal is to die at the sight of it's lover. It dies in a way where it looks like the lover killed it, it bleeds infinitely and the "corpse" dries but never decays. In a sense it bounds its mate or lover with the guilt of it's death thus keeping them together.
Very Bizarre, and very good as well.
Something you could do is when raising the shield make it a inhuman as possible just completely weird and insane and even if you die. When it try’s luring people it won’t act human making people weirded out so less people making them leave.
they don't know he is going to lure other people in though
@@imjustagoodboi31
They have a full year to think about it.
I think it would be easy to figure out
How to beat vivarium: Be homeless
wow my worst fear…the suburbs..
Honestly though this movie combines pretty much all of the worst elements of my dreams: saturated lighting, routine that slowly drives you crazy, tasteless food, the feeling of being trapped. It’s bonkers I’ve never heard of this before now
Pocket nuke, or if one could maybe drive off with a baby version of the creature in the car, the mere presence of the baby might allow them to find the exit, if might be like putting a 2D thing in a car with you, if you drive it probably will be disoriented but still fine so long as you drive slow
The baby came after the car fuel was over
Eh, I didn’t get the impression that the child was ever “tricked” into exposing anything - I think everything it did was with some instinctual cruelty, emotional manipulation is how it hunts and it was only continuing to come to age in that scene.
5:27 if the creature is multi dimension, lets assume 4-space, it could just slip into one of the infinite hyperplanes to escape and has no reason to go under the curb
I was thinking more pocket dimensions and impossible space less 3d vs 4d folds
When she followed the Alien she became a 4th dimensional human, however she did not know how to traverse it. I am assuming other humans they had captured may have figured out how to travel the 4th dimension and escape, so the Aliens built a failsafe with the food that made humans sick so they never had enough time nor felt well enough to access and travel the 4th dimension and escape.
Not necessarily, we are 3d creatures and in order to move through a 2d slice of a house we'd still need to use the doorways because the 2d slice of our body that intersects that plane still needs to fit through the door in order to leave. I think it's more akin to a 3d organism with the ability to move along a fourth axis, rather than being constructed in four dimensions. Non-Euclidean space where a straight line doesn't move in a straight direction would be possible with this "3.5d" theory, like if you took a 2d animal from a flat plane and put it onto the surface of spherical planet, it could travel in straight lines in any direction and still end up in the original position, even though this makes no sense to the animal. In order for you to leave that planet, you'd still need a method of egress even though you're 3d. The way this movie treats extradimensional space is my favorite piece of media ever tbh
@@amukakuma that is literally the opposite of what's true.
A 3 dimensional being could interact with every part of a 2 dimensional plane, because definitionally no 2 dimensional obstacle is 3 dimensional.
Also non-euclidean space where moving in a straight line results in returning to your starting position is already possible and real. It's called sphere.
The true solution is that the government should look into these multitude of disappearances and then proceed to shut down the real estate agency and could make restrictions on real estate companies tighter to prevent it from reappearing.
You're assuming the government isn't part of it.
@@treasuremage7546 seems like a massive economic drain
@@boiwutyousaywatupdawg5314 Economics is a tool. Not an end in itself. Assume creatures without any empathy exist and it follows they'd seek positions of influence to protect their operations; and if it leads to disposable humans suffering, so be it. On a related note, have you seen that interview with the Pfizer CEO where his neck is bugging out exactly the same way? th-cam.com/video/CD8tKbE7duA/w-d-xo.html
@@treasuremage7546 OMG what is that neck. Frog lookin MF 👀🐸💀 Thanks for that. Glad I never got those needles 🙌
Are there really many people disappearing though
Imagine if all you had to do escape was to go into the house next door
Reminds me of when I asked how to draw a circle and google says “you can’t lol”
What?
What?
Exactly
The pickaxe did something, I would just do that, even if it didn’t get me out. That kid creeped me out.
I just realized what this reminds me of- the movie Dark City. Also a little bit of Being John Malkovich.
Since we know they have white paint they could just make numbered pathways out from their house. For example: in any scene where they are on a roof, you could begin to mark the roofs of other houses in a straight line, creating a path to follow, in an attempt to map the plane of existence. It would help you to form a very basic understanding of the world. Also collecting resources from other houses, building your own house, a tower, ziplines, figuring out where the power and water come from, etc.
Nothing could be mapped because the houses were all the day he same. That would be pointless the only way of escape was the alien boy who knew the only way of leaving the simulation.
It's a different dimension that wouldn't work
I mean, the houses would just turn back to normal no?
Just like how their house went back to being there after they burned it down.
Honestly the whole time I was just thinking I'd murder the little bugger regardless of my own life. If I can't live (or leave I guess in this case), then neither can he.
I actually check this movie out, and there is another way. The real estate agent at the beginning of the movie is putting out hardcore creeper vibes. Maybe it's too late by the time they get to the house, but if I was in that situation, I'd think this guy either wanted to kill me or have a three-way. A three-way being the best-case scenario, the real estate agent gives off the vibe like he'd be into some stuff that I wouldn't be okay with - possible poop stuff.
this movie really freaked me out. one of my all time favorites but it is very creepy. the feeling of being trapped somewhere and just knowing you cant escape. horrifying
9:10 exactly what I was thinking, except capture and torture after the first disappearance. This way he probably knows how to travel and is young enough to be overpowered. The longer you wait after that, I assume it will only get tougher.
Im disappointed in you film herald, the answer was incredibly simple:
Just use a pocket nuke lmao
Dead joke can’t lie
@@NaziGuy1 still funny
@@alpactra1830 maybe but not for me
For maximum effect use the thermonuclear anti-carjacking device built into every car of course.
Damn right idk why he didn't think of that.
Its easy to escape just use a nuke as a rocket to fly a way, even if you don't go anywhere, when the nuke falls to the ground it will kill you soo its a win win
Just jump before it hits the ground. You will be safe from impact.
It's comments like these that make me hope that he does a "how to beat varvarium, comments edition"
If they knew to bring a nuke, they'd just have avoided going in the first place. ¬_¬
Never leave home without a nuke.
fr fr just nuke em and leave
Solution 1:
Step 1: not allow the child to ever leave the house.
Step 2: teach it humanity. Well how to be a human and think like one.
Step 3: get it to lead you out.
Solution 2: make a bargain to raise as many children as the creatures want as long as you get to live and get released after a preset #.
Edit:
After seeing some of the replies to this I agree with most of them. These solutions would probably not work like the ones film herald presented yet they are possible.
the second solution wont work. Make a bargain to whom? The aliens don't really care about them, they don't communicate maybe they can't and that's why they need humans to raise their kids to act like humans. The only thing they do is keeping them there and they always have more humans anyway to repeat the cicle, they especially don't need troublesome humans so they would just let you die.
The child might be able to sneak out the house considering the pavement lifting at the end
Step 1: Don't let the extradimensional child leave the extradimensional pocket home that any crevice of which could suddenly become a slide into other dimensions
Step 2: 4head
So they are supposed to incarcerate a child and teach it how to act humanely? That is especially interesting considering what they want him to do is to lead them to freedom, because it's cruel to imprison people...
I mean is no one else seeing a contradiction here?
The solution is to "eat the baby"
It was nice to see Jesse Eisenberg in this movie. I had not seen him since Now You See Me. He is just as handsome as I remembered, and I am glad he is still rockin’ those curls.
Many people say that Midsommar is very disturbing, but when I watched it was normal but the scene. However, in this film, there is not a lot of blood and organs coming out of the body, but it managed to make me feel very disturbing and wanted to finish this film quickly.
Itt is disturbing, but I have watched V movie at least 6 times. It’s so symbolic to present life.
Perhaps the suburban area functions similar to the field from "in the tall grass",in that the kid doesnt just know how to escape,but that the only way to see the path out is with the child in the car. if this is the case,then you could use pne of many household objects such as chairs,telivisions,utility hammers,or the shovel which was used to dig the hole. then you could place the unconscious child in a car's trunk and then lock him in,and potentially you could escape.
The best action is prevention. Never go with a real estate agent unless you've communicated with actual people who have used them happily. In short, check your references. Preferably someone you already know. And true real estate agents probably don't look like Mormons.
It seems like the only way to beat it is to not even accept the offer to see the house, Yonder is beyond SCP levels of f**ked.
Now we need someone to add this to the scp wiki as a non canon
SCP has dealt with way complicated and harder things
@@Kodeuk such as? (genuinely interested and curious!)
@@vblack172 things that could destroy universes and multiverses lol
@@Kodeuk yea i know, do you have any specific recommendations tho so i can check them out
In the fairy world eating the food traps you and makes it so you can’t leave, if they never ate the food, the original attempts at escape might have worked
they tried to escape before eating the food
When the alien is hit, it runs away. So, essentially it has a survival instinct. Essentially, if they catch the alien and threaten it's survival. The couple can potentially use it to manipulate dimensions ex. Tie him down or chop off the legs but leave one arm and then threaten to kill him or torture him to get out.
They could trick the kid in to thinking they’re going to bring him some where like a theme park or something outside the poker dimension and if he falls for it they might be able to escape.
Doesn't even have to be a trick. Genuinely describe the outside world's positive points and promise to take him to Disney World or something.
There is no way to escape not only because of the fact that they're in an extra-dimensional space, but because they are also obviously being actively monitored and anything they can try that would possibly extricate them would likely be countered.
One thing that could be tried is to make alcohol from the food given, then get the kid stupid drunk (if the critters are even affected by such) and get him to tell you what's going on. Then maybe you could do something from there. But again, if they're being actively monitored, that might not work either.
Closest thing to Lovecraftian as of late as the main staple of a good Lovecraft is an unknowable cosmic entity. It couldn't be reasoned with. It couldn't be understood.
Well hang on now I think you found it in your explanation. If the monster is truly afraid to die, showing it that it’s family won’t come for it could be the manipulation tactic that you need. Sorta like saying “I am your only hope, save us and we will protect you, look at how your kind will let you die”
1:50 Their first mistake after realizing they're trapped. There is no reason at this point to believe that whoever has them trapped will keep their word in the end and actually release them. Clearly the situation their in is other-worldy/magical. The only solution at that point would be to kill the alien baby. Even if it doesn't mean escape, the last thing you should do is follow instructions in this situation.
2:30 This should've been the point of no return for the couple. Meaning that they definitely should have done everything in their power to kill the alien child.
I watched another video about this movie. It talked about the possibility that the reason these creatures do this, is to learn how to become human properly. Because if they learn how to properly 'become' humans, then they can actually intergrade themselves into normal society, possibly make more pocket dimensions, and end up controlling the planet due to their abilities. After all, from the movie, it seems that the creatures gain nothing from this, they only complete a life cycle. Everything has some type of purpose, so what would their purpose be if not what I stated it could be?
Just survival, it is natural for them. They live such quick lives, it may make sense for them to have other species raise the young for that reason, as well as their seemingly obvious lack of empathy (they would all be bad parents anyway, maybe worse than most humans). They only barely need to pass the smell test as far as 'being human.' If they get caught they can literally just leave our dimension!
And if there were too many of the creatures at one time, they would run out of host parents quickly by human standards.. One full HUMAN lifespan would be long enough for like 70 of the aliens generations to be born and raised. That is a LOT of missing couples, it would be noticed if their numbers were very large. They may be able to do this with all sorts of various species all over the universe or even other dimensions, the way they travel. If that is the case, they are already an untouchable (as a collective) dominant species, just not in an overt, or showy way.
Jokes on them, this is actually the life I’ve always dreamed of.
The aliens would like you to leave
ain't no way 💀
The Suburban hell scape is a lie of the American dream. Do not fall for it advocate for walkable cities
Too bad you'll only live it for a year
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Me: So when do I get to beat Vivarium
Film Herald: That's the neat part, you dont.
This movie doesn't only make me appreciate freedom, but also how good food tastes!
Look at how there is delusion of what you perceive as freedom.
Also lots of junk food, foods not healthy… people children say taste good.
This movie triggered me more than I thought it would. Just picturing my wife being forced into hell until we die is the saddest possible fate for someone you love. All the couples in this world are so tragic.
Forced?
Lured
Deceived
Ignoring red flags
Ignoring intuition
Oh yeah! Early to a great channel's upload! This ended up being really informative, I never thought of them as extra dimensional beings.
I don't see a solution but I think it would be wise to disobey everything you are led to do. Never go back inside the house just live in your car, don't eat the food, ignore the child and don't let it study you.
I think we can assume they have been studying humans extensively and are convinced that an infant human won't be harmed by the couples that they trap; so you have to kill the baby.
I think extremely erratic behaviour might work as an escape method. It could get you kicked out but it could also do nothing or get you killed. But you're going to die miserable there anyway so it might be worth a try. However, erratic behaviour will very probably improve their study of human behaviour and make things harder for future trapped humans.
The most important thing is to not raise the child. It's the only way to slow (and possibly/hopefully eventually break) the cycle. So as many of the parasites as possible need to be killed. I assume it would be almost impossible to do without the knowledge that it isn't a human baby but a parasitic imposter, incapable of humility, that will perpetuate an endless cycle of trapping more humans until the human race is decimated and replaced by these creatures.
The problem is they didn't know they were gonna die a miserable death. It's not until the man child tells Genna near the end that it's time for Tom to 'be released' that they could have known 'released' meant death not let out
Here’s a method to beat this movie: set a nuke
Wait couldn’t they have just called 911? I think you can call them even without service
@@Rando_mIndividual nah bruh it means no signal to a cell tower
@@Rando_mIndividual the thing with that is calls to 911 or 112 will always use the best service you can get where you are, so even if say, I use EE and it has no signal, if Vodafone had signal I'd still be able to call 911, but in the movie no providers would have signal
@@alexbaker1569 gotcha
how does the nuke solve the problem? everything will be back to normal the next day
Respect for commenting on the thematic topics of the movie and not just going along with "oh well they're aliens" as though only the literal events that happen are important, even if that's not really something that affects the video itself. Way too many people out there shitting on films because they've trained themselves to look at art through a hyper-literal lens.
I lost my remaining brain cells the moment the dude lifts up a whole a sidewalk
Tell the agent he's only getting 5% commission.
Why not visit other houses and barge in, and, instead of digging a hole, you basically "Minecraft" your way across by just building a long ass bridge, why? Because we know that when they used a car or travelled by foot, they didn't have any landmark to use as a reference to where they were. Instead, by building a bridge that starts from the house, you clearly know that the planks behind you are "Oh, bridge, that leads me to my home" so you wont get lost.
But honestly? Don't buy houses from a neighbourhood that look copy-pasted from one-another.
If I was them, and I saw that we were approaching Yonder, I'd just unbuckle my seatbelt, open the door, jump out and roll before we reach the sign.
Building a bridge needs architectural expertise
"Don't buy houses from a neighbourhood that look copy-pasted from one-another."
dude, idk where you live but in my country this is common lmfao. (except the houses are all painted different colours)
They literally followed the sun setting (West) in a straight line and still found themselves back at house 9.
Or turn around the car
Hindsight is 20/20
Film herald has the most creative sponsor messages ever
the child drove out while they couldnt, so maybe tying him up then walking with him in a straight line could help them get out? the child must be the key to stop the loop that keeps bringing them to house 9
This movie was so unsettling. The fact that the only thing the main characters accomplished in the end was digging a hole for themselves to be buried in just gives me an overall sense of hopelessness for surviving such a scenario.
You never know how you would react… but I seriously think I would just continue walking, ignoring the child, and endlessly searching for an exit until I starved to death. I can’t see myself just accepting the situation and trying to coexist with an alien. Fuck that, I’ll be looking for a way out, no matter how hopeless.
In short, this is one of those horror movies where survival and escape has such ridiculously unlikely odds, it’s either impossible or nearly impossible to get close to even a draw.
I’m not really a fan of these kinds of movies since a chance to survive keeps me on my toes and makes me want to see it to the end. And you could argue that it’s not trying to do that, it’s trying to critique aspects of society. And you’re right. From what I hear, it succeeds at what it’s tying to do.
It’s just a bit frustrating from a entertainment perspective because it’s like gunning your heroes against an all-powerful who controls fate and reality- why should I care if the side I’m rooting for is always gonna lose under the set conditions?
If you ask me, giving the heroes a chance to survive makes the movie more interesting and gives a more accurate portrayal of the critiques it’s making- yes, the system is screwed, but the system can be beaten and/or changed. And it adds entertainment value in wondering what they could’ve done differently that could’ve lead to a good outcome.
It's not that kinda of movie, the whole movie was social commentary on how our lives go to "die" in suburbia. Mortgages, children, "settling-down," are ideas and life-goals that we as people just kind of accept forever. If they had escaped, then the entire message of the movie would have been invalidated.
@@Matt-ux8hh I’m not saying they had to escape, I’m saying if they had made us think they had a chance to survive, it may have been a bit more engaging. Still, I get your point, like I said, people will make argument that the movie’s trying to critique society, not give us a survival scenario, and you’re right. I just think that instead of it being a horribly doomed scenario, it could’ve had some hope to keep you on your toes, only to dash it away so the movies themes can be reinforced.
I like movies that don't have the typical they-made-it-out ending. Most movies have happy or happy-ish endings; this one does not. I like it.
It's garbage. Just misery porn with a pretentious "message".
What if one of the adults could of put themselves in the disposable box, left out daily (the trash).
Maybe aliens would of removed the box before discovering a human inside of it?
But I doubt the aliens would fall for such a trick.
TLDR: Give me a knife and that book and maybe I can turn that child into a key
Explanation:
From how Jenna 'falls' through the different spaces it is possible that the creatures exist in a polarized state, and have active control over this state. If it was possible to take advantage of this active polarization via the child, you could effectively use the child as a key to leave without needing the other creatures to let you out.
This is referring to polarized light that moves in a certain dimension, and the depiction of this world shows that possibly the matter around them is also polarized.
I want a Vivarium 2 where the couple who gets trapped in Yonder is a couple of sadistic monster psychos. Show us what happens if they torture, kill, dismember, burn the alien child. Make others of his kind appear and deliver punishment. Make the psycho couple too deranged to take punishment as such. Make the final battle a Machiavellian monster-vs-monster affair.
Imagine if they lure a psychopath couple that just pretends to be nice. So, they do some unspeakable thing to the entity that it died painfully. And scared the living crap of the other entities that might be watching them.
Possible solutions, let me know if I have any flaws because I’m sure I missed something:
-follow the child when he leaves to get lessons from aliens (may be where he got the gasoline too)
-she had the kid show his alien nature so maybe he can show her the language to understand the book
-the book has pictures to understand, maybe they can find an escape (ex. like the under sidewalk shortcut, just a safer one)
-restrain the child and bring him along, he did say only way in/out was with the aliens so imma take notes from his “in the tall grass” video and just say pick up that little shit and go for a hike
-if all else fails, they could have tried to kill the child earlier or waited until he was close to death in the car. Possible the aliens didn’t care because the child wasn’t in a near-death state I mean it was in the car for like one day not even
On your first point, the woman tried following the child and lost him each time (she had turned it into a game)
Having an affordable home in a suburb today is not considered "horror" anymore, that is the golden standard most of us will never get.
I don’t think threatening to kill the child would work either because they seem to just pop out of an incubation facility requiring very little effort to produce.
*Child arrives in the box*
"Looks like meat is back on the menu boys."
Man, this channel was so great. I wish he came back, or at least I wish he's doing great in life.
Pretty disappointed in the lack of scam links I usually find when early to a video.
Lazy ass bots!
Ok so, basically its obviously a long shot but there might be a way to free yourself and ideally even profit from the whole situation.
If we look at the "kid" we see that although he/his species can manipulate space it still seems both mentally and physically affectable by the "parents". Especially in the earlier times when they seemed to have some more or less genuine moments like the impression game and Tom was able to lock him in the car without any problems. Also, even when the "child" was almost fully grown, it was still afraid of Gemma armed with a simple pickaxe, referring that the species is still susceptible to physical harm and probably don't posses any "supernatural fighting abilities".
Now this method presumes that the couple the realtor tricked into the Yonder is somewhat psycho. However taking all that was previously mentioned into account you can probably achieve near complete control over the creature by torturing it to the limit where its mind breaks. Very much akin to what Ramsay Snow did to Theon/Reek in GOT, where he was mentally so broken that until Sansa/Jane entered the scene he wouldn't have betrayed Ramsey even when given the chance due to all the torture and brainwashing.
Now having a multidimensional being under your control can not only set you free from Yonder but also lets you walk into the vaults of banks, discover the dirtiest secrets of Biden and Trump and as we saw in the last part of the movie, probably also materialise items to say the least.
The obvious counterargument to this is that the other "creatures" would intervene and not allow it. However if we follow the example of cuckoos the parents set the child up with fake parents for exactly the reason that they don't care what happens to it and dont want to worry or care of it, so intervention might not be as probable as one thinks.
It is of course also possible that the parent will choose a couple the he/she senses is mentally malleable enough and least likely to hurt the child, and thus the said scenario will never take place.
Just my two cents on the topic
Wdym by Trump and biden?
Now if i got caught out within this situation, i would try to do what i could are these ideas.
1: Ignore their rules, As they want to have those captured to raise the "Child" into being an adult, frankly with the chances that you're not going to escape the best idea would be to ignore what they want you to do for them. Don't raise the child they give you, keep it within the car as it's earth made so they can't escape the car, allowing you to continue what you can until the child dies, keeping up the cycle as many times as possible, rather than trying to escape the never-ending loop.
2. Raise the kid as your actual own. As we see the kid is meant to mimic everything you do as they grow up, however rather than sending the kid to it's school, keep the kid at home and home school the child or even keep the kid under wraps, doing whatever possible to make it as human as possible learning empathy and compassion in order to try to get the child who ends up becoming an adult to feel like a human, not knowing of their original race to help at least to get out
3. Raise the kid version 2, have the kid translate the symbols and glyphs as you watch it get older as you figure your ways out so the book or the tv can be understandable but keep the kid close enough to see where it goes then begin able to use their abilities to try finding a way out with their abilities.
4. Ignore everything, Don't give into their demands, don't eat their food, don't stay in the house, don't raise the kid. So whatever it takes to survive and try to do whatever possible.
Killing it as soon as it is delivered is the only chance I can even think of
The creature can't escape the car once locked in, and at that point has the knowledge and ability to navigate Vivarium and understands fear (screaming). Bargaining isn't necessary, the creature itself can be forced to help you escape under threat of pain or death, or failing rendering any help, consumption. If it can't help us escape, it will temporarily benefit us by being legitimate food. We shouldn't call it a "child" cuz that's what a human is when its in its' pre-adult phase and conflating this thing with one of us might distract us from our goal of survival!
Just like with a cowbird, you can't win by playing the game directly, you have to be a violent, vindictive little corvid and out-brutalize them to get them to stay away. Its a sacrifice play, cowbirds will destroy your eggs if you don't raise theirs but Jenna proves that even though we're limited to our 3rd Dimension, we do present a physical threat to the creature(s) (as it tries to escape in fear of her). Just like corvids (which are formidable threats among birds), we pose a practical physical threat to young and mature Vivarium Creatures, even if they do disapprove of our interrogating/eating them, what're they gonna do? Hide? "We both lose" is a gamble both corvids and humans are willing to make!