This guys ... is one of the most underrated Tech youtubers ... He's always straight forward .. no bs .. honest reviews ... Keep it up man ... really digging your work ..
Hi Bob, thanks for all of your content and videos, thanks to them I was able to successfully re-paste my asus zephyrus M15 with RTX 2070 Max q (used kingpin kpx for both the cpu and gpu instead of the factory liquid metal on the CPU) and I'm enjoying better thermals now than before. (Paricularly better on the GPU side with much more less thermal throttling, it's a very small and compact chasis...) Thanks once again and looking forward to more content from you!!!
@@BobOfAllTrades Yeah I first learned about it using your guide. Was experimenting with my new laptop yesterday with a very conservative voltage and was very happy with performance and temps 👍
Same here.....before Bob I was unnecessarily focused on overclocking and frying my laptop. It's only after I came across Bob's channel, became more focused on undervolting and creating a fine balance between thermals and 60 FPS performance..... Hey BOB where r u now days..... not seen u around for some time now....
Just ordered my new laptop after months and I mean months (bout 6-8) of waiting. The legion 5 pro with 16 gig ram and ryzen 7 5800h with rtx 3060 🥳 Your video got me educated in laptops and the specificities and I thank you for these amazing video :)
Hey Bob! I request you to please upload repasting videos more often. I do not have any specific re-pasting guide request. It's just these videos along with your information is just so satisfying.
Very good video. I just bought this brand of laptop new and was worried about how Asus applied the liquid metal. But seeing this made me feel more comfortable. Thank you for making it :)
Finally someone who repasted a laptop with liquid metal from the factory! I finally could see what a great job ASUS did whit my ROG strix G17 3060 ryzen7 2021
I have a similar spec laptop, Thankyou for this vid, just what i needed, my laptop started overheating a month back but couldn't service it as I had exams due.
So much goop!!! This is why I stick with thermal pads when I can. Less stuff to clean up. But that’s just personal preference. Really nice to see the thermal compounds and liquid metal they use is applied well. That’s a far cry from the good ol days where you HAD to repaste your laptop day one and get 5-10 degree drop. Nice undervolt too. 8 degrees is a massive gain.
As these become thinner and thinner the tolerance for .5mm pads becomes too thick and paste is the only option. I too much prefer pads based on everything you said.
if they would go back to slightly thicker heatsinks,, not as big as before, just reasonably big to keep things cool while maintaining a good formfactor would result in better thermals even after applying liquid metal..
Hey Bob, thanks for this awesome tutorial. I'm also planning to do a repaste on my Strix G15. My question is, instead of using K5 Pro for the vram and memory chips can I use thermal pads instead? The place I'm living in K5 Pro is not common and importing it cost 4x as much. Thank you
I’m some instances, the reason why thermal pads are not used is because the tolerance is so small that even a .5 thermal pad may be too thick. But if you absolutely have to go that route then get the thinnest pads.
Hey great video. I am also planning to replace the paste and vram goo. I can't find k5 pro in my area, so can I use thermal pad of 0.5 thickness instead for my Rog strix g ?
I bought a used ROG Flow X13 for a really cheap price but I found the GPU to be thermal throttling way before reaching its usual clocks. Performance is good and i can still play games but not use the gpu to its fullest potential. Would you say the process is relatively same with the ROG Flow X13? I plan to buy K5 Pro, Arctic MX-4, and Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. are these viable options?
Hey just a question, i also like grizzly , i have the thermal paste and was thinking of replacing the old one ,why do you use the thermal paste only on the CPU and GPU but you use that white one liquid metal on the other components? Wouldn't thermal paste do the same job? Or is the liquid metal better ? And if yes, could I use the liquid metal on the CPU instead ?
Hey Bob. When you say 1700 MHz @ 800 mV, do you have the value for the offset ? As GPU Boost depends on temps, you don't have the same in AB V/F curve at idle vs load.
Any plans to test out a 5900HX + 3080 165W combination? If the full powered 3070 is bottlenecked by a 5800H/10870H, I can't imagine the 3080 combo would do any better at 1080p.
Thank you for your videos! Maybe you can make a repaste video of the ROG zephyrus m15. Quick question: Will it be possible if the repaste is not liquid metal but the thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme?
First ,great video bob ....BUT..hear me out.....how about cutting holes on the bottom cover holes right above fans so it can breath better..like honey comb holes.....im 100% sure asus is choking their laptops like this and ive been thinking about doing this with my own laptop A LOT what do you think ?will it improve ? ( i dont care about the bs like having aiflow on other components as if it was necessary other brands wouldve done the same as asus )
yeah it is effective since I've tried cutting intake vents onto the asus tuf15 using a dremel cutter. Temps dropped alot and would average 75c lower while gaming on ultra settings.
@@josephchristianruiz6581 what is the cpu in that laptop ?4800H? What gpu ? And have to repasted the device as well ? Whats your max and average temps under load in constant strain of cpu and gpu if you dont mind me asking ....any hiccups or performance loss ????
@@phantompanda1508 ryzen 7 3750H + gtx1660ti, it never went past 75c and would hover around 65-74c as my client would say. Wouldn't need to worry about it having repasted again since I decided to use graphite onto his system.
thanks for the video! what's the exact thermal conductivity of K5 pro? I couldn't find it, same with Arctic MX 5 lol. Also, any luck on GPU undervolting after disabling dynamic boost?
Bob, i have hp omen 17 with 10750H and 2080super. I love it, but the cpu gets to the 96-100C°. That's even after i asked an official service to repaste and they've put Arctic mx-2. What would you recommend? Better paste or only liquid metal would help me? This is with undervolted cpu. Gpu temps are from 65-73max.
i did my repaste last night on the 10750h on my asus g512 last night and i just used regular artic mx4 only the cpu had liquid metal on it. My temps when gaming on the cpu was like 99c and it went down to like the low 90s. I figured it would have went down more. but its still better than it was. So paste doesnt really matter to much. I just dont like messing with liquid metal.
Hi Bob, great video. I intend to repaste my Asus M15 Zephyrus (which also uses liquid metal as stock product). Would you say the process should be pretty much equivalent? I also intend to replace the fans as they are having some weird noises
@@therealb888 Hi there, yes I did, i used kingpin KPx on both CPU and GPU. I would say thermals are definitely better, previously my GPU got easily to 86-87, now i'm closer to 83-84. CPU is pretty much similar. Overral it's a bit better and the good thing is that thermal throttling occurs with a lesser frequency now (it still occurs though...). The chasis of the M15 is way too thin i guess. Ask me anything about the process if you're interested. GL
He did mention that he put a thin amount of LM on the nickel painted part of heatsink that corresponds to the CPU. He didn't show it but he did say that he did it.
Very interesting repaste video, considering OEMs and even high end boutique vendors are going for heterogeneous thermal interfaces, liquid metal on CPU and paste on GPU. I have never applied/reapplied liquid metal so here are my concerns: While repasting the GPU, can we leave the liquid metal as is on the heatsink and GPU die instead of removing it and cleaning the surfaces for reapply? or does removing the heatsink screw up the perfect contact and fitment needed for liquid metal to perform it's magic and are forced to reapply liquid metal every couple of years just to repaste the GPU? Knowing that liquid metal (LM) if left alone can easily last 5 to 7 years without degradation according to some users on notebookreview forums and my vendor HIDevolution told me LM is good for the life of the system I do not like this new approach one bit. Liquid metal is much more expensive, requires higher skill and patience to apply (risk of shorting MOBO) plus is not easy to find outside of Europe, USA and rich Asia (Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, Japan, Australia). So when the thermal paste on the GPU eventually dries out and pushes out in 1 to 2 years (unless you use phobya nanogrease or IC diamond, 3/4 years), so the user needs to repaste the GPU but if he can't find liquid metal, can he just leave it on the heatsink and CPU die or will he have to remove the LM and downgrade to thermal paste? I mean I get it why they put paste on GPU and liquid metal on the CPU because the heat-pipes are shared they give the better thermal conductivity interface to the hotter CPU so they GPU runs warmer because exchanges less heat to not saturate the heatsink so much. But this is wasteful and super expensive when it comes to maintenance and reapply... I prefer Liquid Metal on both CPU and GPU as done on my laptop (can't be bothered with repastes) but the fact that recently, even high end boutique vendors are doing this heterogeneous approach to TIM is not to my liking one bit and they are charging the same price as they did for liquid metal on both CPU and GPU back in 2019-late 2020...
Once you break the LM seal you really should clean and redo it. The reason why LM isn’t on the GPU is because Nvidia won’t honor the warranty. Companies like HID eat it should the GPU fail.
@@BobOfAllTrades Well sheet... I got lucky to get a laptop before Nvidia pulled that warranty stunt on liquid metal. I don't plan to upgrade until 2023 (raptor/meteor lake or Zen 5/5+, RDNA 3 or Lovelace/Hopper) I hope it gets sorted out by then, or vendors at least use long lasting paste like phobia nanogrease and not Gelid or kryonaut.
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks for explanation, I really thought it was a cost saving/thermal optimization rational decision due to shared heatpipes. But turns out it's just Nvidia being ahole drama queen as usual. I mean, if CPU makers are cool with liquid metal when manufacturers like Asus or Playstation put the necesary safeguards like foam dams and kapton tape I don't see why Nvidia makes a fuss about that. If you can do it for a CPU SoC so can you for a GPU SoC. OEMs and vendors always getting the shaft with Nvidia, G-Sync certification fees on a per panel basis is another cutthroat thing they do. I wonder if AMD will greenlight liquid metal on their mobile dGPU if OEMs guarantee anti spill safeguards. Also I hope we get freesync on the AMD dGPU and not have to bypass via the vega iGPU like on ampere cards (again I suspect Nvidia not playing nice with AMD freesync just to push their G-sync). No wonder TSMC does not want to do business with them lol.
Bob, what was the fan noise like on balanced profile on the mech 15 g3, i only saw max fan at 52db, was it too loud for headphoneless gaming other than office mode? How was that 1440p screen in non gaming scenarios, was the text sharpness noticeable? I dont think i could run it at 100% scaling, probably 125-150%. I ask because im starting to do alot of text based work on the computer work doing programming. A high quality 17 inch 1080p FHD panel should be just as good and be ran at 100% scaling? I haven't been able to look at enough QHD or 4k screens even with scaling to compare. Do you know if windows 10 still suffers bad from scaling issues? its either that 15.6 inch mech 15 g3 1440p or MSI GE76 Raider 17.3 inch 1080p, Im trying to decide between these two machines.
Bob, when are you testing the Eluktronics max 17 covert with the qhd dispay and the rtx3070/3080. I'm thinking of getting one with the 3070 but I don't see too many reviews for it out there.
Hey guys what is the alternative for K5? I've heard some bad stuff about it that is boils and leaves bubbles also i don't have access to it in my country I'm also sure that the blue stuff is dry and i had to replace it...is there any other option other than K5 and pads?
If you’re referring to K5 pro as grease as in TIM, that it not what that stuff is for. K5 is for exactly what it was used for in this video. The laptop of his is going strong still as of today 👍
What paste u used for power section? In mine triton 500 they used some red factory so i change it after year for conductonaut. In many forums ppl always says to use thermal pads but in mine case even factory didn't use it only in one place even there i used fat amount of grizzly ( it's save in mine opinion i know whole power section and vrams got contact with cooler plate ) what do u think?
I have the same model, the question is can i repaste with non LM such as Kingpin KPX or kryonaut? Considering Asus has used Liquid Metal before in this model
What if I put thermal paste in one component but a thermal pad in the other? I plan on using the PTM7950 for the cpu. If I bring the heatsink out, will I need to replace the pad as well?
Why would you repaste the CPU?asus already put the same LM you put on there. Now maybe you weren't pleased with their application of it? And I can understand the need for it on the gpu.....idk lol
We didn’t know it had LM. This isn’t my laptop so I don’t know if it said so on the box and it didn’t say it with a sticker on the laptop. The owner didn’t know either.
@@BobOfAllTrades does using LM on the GPU make sense? (I would assume it does but completely covering everything as to avoid a potential short... Sounds dangerous)
@@BobOfAllTrades thanks for that info. I will try both the cpu and gpu first with kingpin then and if not satisfied will proceed with LM on the cpu only
Thermal pad replacement paste is different than cpu/gpu die paste. The surface material, viscosity and temp requirements are different. Should you use cpu/gpu paste everywhere, you could be slowly frying your surrounding components without knowing it since most is not read by sensors.
@@BobOfAllTrades Oh I didn't know that. Also is there a problem if I don't apply new thermal pad replacement paste and use the ones thats there already instead of scrapping it. Thank you!
And BTW don't use K5 , I've seen some pretty nasty photos of ppl complaing that it boils when components get super hot, creating holes in the k5 paste applied in the components, you can just use Grizzly thermal (the grey one he used)paste on all the components and it will do the job very well , don't use the k5 white paste !
On laptop vram and vrms what to use bro pls tell me I own rog strix g15 For cpu i oredered liquid metal of thermal grizzly for gpu ordered thermal grizzly extreme For vram and vrms what to use som say pad and some paste Can iuse Arctic mx4 for vram and vrms pls reply
I guess my comment got deleted because I put an external link in, but I don't know how to show you in i-m-g-u-r. I pulled a similar model heatsink off and the cpu had the liquid metal on it but it appears to have gotten under that protective layer and even looks to be on some of the resistors/capacitors? on top of the cpu. But the computer turns on. I want to get it cleaned off but not sure, first, if I need to get the residue from underneath, and if so, how to access it to fully clean it properly.
@@MetaModern87 I honestly don’t exactly remember what I did. I just know that it eventually came back on. But I don’t think it was any longer than maybe 3 to 5 minutes. We’re talking about something that probably happened seven or eight years ago.
Why don't you remove all the blue material from the pads?? is it because of something in particular?? (i kind of prefer a clean interface with the k5 pro install)
@@BobOfAllTrades haha good to know, I thought i may have screwed the instalation. For the vram chips would you recommend kryonaut / kingpin or kp5 pro?
Man I really wish I could unlock the BIOS on my Helios 300. I'm running at 73C at full load on the GPU pulling 80W, there's easily room for 10-15 more watts. Already repasted and repadded the thing so the only step left is the BIOS unlock and I'd rather do it by dumping the bios using software only and no external hardware.
Could u link to that kpro thermal goop I have been using just noctua thermal paste on the vrms I wouldnt mind putting continuing better on my gs66 stealth I might liquid metal it but it's not that much of a difference I mean it's good but it's still loud
my asus rog scar 2 GL504GW with bios 307 can no longer be able to undervolted neither in bios nor throttlestop :( i can't downgrade my bios to 305 cause it will causes apps crashing as i just replaced the motherboard :(. Do you know where i can find modded bios for 307 GL504GW?
There might be a way to downgrade bios using ezflash usb method. If the older bios has older mei firmware it won't work correctly since mei firmware can't be downgraded aside from using hardware spi flasher
They use thermal paste on those components for a reason getting the thinnest thermal pad might work or it might not. And thermal grizzly is probably one of your better choices for liquid metal.
@@BobOfAllTradesDo I have to worry about the thermal putty touching motherboard components? Also do I have to remove all the thermal putty before applying new? I'm going to use the LAIRD Tputty 607.
Lifespan is about 1-2 Years, but when you using PC/Notebook very often and CPU gets very often hot i would replace every year, just to be sure to stay with lower temps. Cheers
My inglis is not good, can you tell me what did you use for CPU GPU and those litle component? Or what can i use for now since is 3 years ago, ( maybe better products now) thanks
@@silverdefenders7373 Hello. For CPU use thermal grizzly condoctonaut. For GPU use thermal grizzly kryonaut. For the little components use k5 pro, or normal thermal pads. You can find all these things online
it's fine, you're talking about the gameplay footage? That's the capture card or some issue, the video for repasting is clearly normal as is his other videos. His gameplay footage/MSI afterburner overlay always looks like that
@@roboticvenom1935 nah i see what he's talking about. look at 2:50 the board red part has horizontal lines fluctuating, and i'm on 1080p. probably a rendering issue of codecs. i mean, by no means does it ruin anything but it is noticeable.
This was my first UHD render with this camera. Plus I’m getting use to the settings to render this footage with a Ryzen CPU. Lots of different things happening here so better to try this out on a video like this versus a review that actually gets views 👍
Yes but I don’t suggest it. Protecting the outside of the die on the GPU is challenging and doing it perfectly without compromising the die to cooler contact is difficult.
@@BobOfAllTrades I have another question, i don't have K5 Pro, so, can i Use thermal pads instead?? And if is yes, what is the mm that you recommend??, Sorry if my english is not the best, i am from Chile, Thanks a lot
@@Kirschbluteee It’s risky, but thinner would likely be your best bet since paste was used. If it’s too thick you’ll have poor CPU/GPU contact and you’ll notice this quickly. If it’s too thin you won’t notice it right away, if at all. It’ll either throttle and you won’t know why or you’ll burn something out. I’d source something appropriate even if it’s a K5 substitute.
hello everyone, I have a g531gw laptop, I get 20 FPS on warzone and my GPU displays 95°, is this the cause of the fps loss? How to solve this problem ? thank you all
That doesn’t seem right. Did you take yours apart? Did it perform better on this title previously or is this your first time?How many sticks of memory?
Got a question regarding thermal paste for components, do I have to use something different or can use any other? Like for example why did Bob here used K5 Pro for components and Phobian Nano greace for the cpu/gpu?
Hi, if you want you can also use the same thermal paste for the components like pasting the gpu. K-5 Pro, like mentioned in the video, is in my opinion the best for components. For GPU i have best experience with Arctic MX-4. Liquid Metal is best for CPU's, cause they getting very hot in full load. Cheers
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks, I have, the G712LU model is practically the same as that model, only with the 17-inch screen and with a 1660ti instead of a 2060, but in the rest it is the same. Also apply the mv of 80 to the CPU. I have not made any changes to the GPU, as I always use the TURBO profile in the Asus Armory app.
This guys ... is one of the most underrated Tech youtubers ...
He's always straight forward .. no bs .. honest reviews ...
Keep it up man ... really digging your work ..
Hi Bob, thanks for all of your content and videos, thanks to them I was able to successfully re-paste my asus zephyrus M15 with RTX 2070 Max q (used kingpin kpx for both the cpu and gpu instead of the factory liquid metal on the CPU) and I'm enjoying better thermals now than before. (Paricularly better on the GPU side with much more less thermal throttling, it's a very small and compact chasis...)
Thanks once again and looking forward to more content from you!!!
If it fine if I apply Liquid Metal on gpu as well ?
Thanks for the guide! I was already planning to repaste my Strix 17" this summer, but now I really don't any excuses not to do it... :D
Gpu undervolting is underrated
Hey it’s not for a lack of trying I’ve been talking about this for two years 👍
@@BobOfAllTrades Yeah I first learned about it using your guide. Was experimenting with my new laptop yesterday with a very conservative voltage and was very happy with performance and temps 👍
:o
Same here.....before Bob I was unnecessarily focused on overclocking and frying my laptop. It's only after I came across Bob's channel, became more focused on undervolting and creating a fine balance between thermals and 60 FPS performance..... Hey BOB where r u now days..... not seen u around for some time now....
Just ordered my new laptop after months and I mean months (bout 6-8) of waiting. The legion 5 pro with 16 gig ram and ryzen 7 5800h with rtx 3060 🥳
Your video got me educated in laptops and the specificities and I thank you for these amazing video :)
Hey Bob!
I request you to please upload repasting videos more often. I do not have any specific re-pasting guide request.
It's just these videos along with your information is just so satisfying.
I can’t offer Repaste videos on review units. I do what I can with what’s available 👌
Very good video. I just bought this brand of laptop new and was worried about how Asus applied the liquid metal. But seeing this made me feel more comfortable. Thank you for making it :)
Asus's OEM LM solution is pretty good.
The thin tape
The nickel plating
The foam barrier
Ticks about every box!.
Can I replace the foam barrier if it wears out? And if so, where can I find a replacement?
LMA and Undervolt FTW!!! Nice results...for temps anyway boys nobody does repastes like Bob on Laptops nice quick and straight forward.
Finally someone who repasted a laptop with liquid metal from the factory! I finally could see what a great job ASUS did whit my ROG strix G17 3060 ryzen7 2021
I have a similar spec laptop, Thankyou for this vid, just what i needed, my laptop started overheating a month back but couldn't service it as I had exams due.
So much goop!!! This is why I stick with thermal pads when I can. Less stuff to clean up. But that’s just personal preference. Really nice to see the thermal compounds and liquid metal they use is applied well. That’s a far cry from the good ol days where you HAD to repaste your laptop day one and get 5-10 degree drop.
Nice undervolt too. 8 degrees is a massive gain.
As these become thinner and thinner the tolerance for .5mm pads becomes too thick and paste is the only option.
I too much prefer pads based on everything you said.
if they would go back to slightly thicker heatsinks,, not as big as before, just reasonably big to keep things cool while maintaining a good formfactor would result in better thermals even after applying liquid metal..
On that same note, if we could get GPUs that are powerful at a lower wattage, the results are wonderful 👍
I’m game for either one, maybe both 🤷
LMAO @ 2:22 "Trust me I'm bald" 🤣
Perfect video once again. Thank you, Boss.
Awesome. Straight to the point
Hey Bob, thanks for this awesome tutorial. I'm also planning to do a repaste on my Strix G15. My question is, instead of using K5 Pro for the vram and memory chips can I use thermal pads instead? The place I'm living in K5 Pro is not common and importing it cost 4x as much. Thank you
I’m some instances, the reason why thermal pads are not used is because the tolerance is so small that even a .5 thermal pad may be too thick. But if you absolutely have to go that route then get the thinnest pads.
@@BobOfAllTrades Alright, thanks for your reply!
@@BobOfAllTrades can regular thermal paste be used instead of a viscous one (like the k5 pro)?
Hey great video. I am also planning to replace the paste and vram goo. I can't find k5 pro in my area, so can I use thermal pad of 0.5 thickness instead for my Rog strix g ?
Awesome video Bob if you have it can you make a similar guide video for the Legion 5 with 4800h, RTX 2060 , thank you.
I bought a used ROG Flow X13 for a really cheap price but I found the GPU to be thermal throttling way before reaching its usual clocks. Performance is good and i can still play games but not use the gpu to its fullest potential. Would you say the process is relatively same with the ROG Flow X13?
I plan to buy K5 Pro, Arctic MX-4, and Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. are these viable options?
Hey just a question, i also like grizzly , i have the thermal paste and was thinking of replacing the old one ,why do you use the thermal paste only on the CPU and GPU but you use that white one liquid metal on the other components? Wouldn't thermal paste do the same job? Or is the liquid metal better ? And if yes, could I use the liquid metal on the CPU instead ?
Hey Bob. When you say 1700 MHz @ 800 mV, do you have the value for the offset ? As GPU Boost depends on temps, you don't have the same in AB V/F curve at idle vs load.
Any plans to test out a 5900HX + 3080 165W combination? If the full powered 3070 is bottlenecked by a 5800H/10870H, I can't imagine the 3080 combo would do any better at 1080p.
Thank you for your videos!
Maybe you can make a repaste video of the ROG zephyrus m15.
Quick question: Will it be possible if the repaste is not liquid metal but the thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme?
You don’t have to use liquid metal.
@@BobOfAllTrades if I understand correctly, so there's no problem if I don't use liquid metal?
First ,great video bob ....BUT..hear me out.....how about cutting holes on the bottom cover holes right above fans so it can breath better..like honey comb holes.....im 100% sure asus is choking their laptops like this and ive been thinking about doing this with my own laptop A LOT what do you think ?will it improve ? ( i dont care about the bs like having aiflow on other components as if it was necessary other brands wouldve done the same as asus )
yeah it is effective since I've tried cutting intake vents onto the asus tuf15 using a dremel cutter. Temps dropped alot and would average 75c lower while gaming on ultra settings.
@@josephchristianruiz6581 what is the cpu in that laptop ?4800H? What gpu ? And have to repasted the device as well ? Whats your max and average temps under load in constant strain of cpu and gpu if you dont mind me asking ....any hiccups or performance loss ????
@@phantompanda1508 ryzen 7 3750H + gtx1660ti, it never went past 75c and would hover around 65-74c as my client would say. Wouldn't need to worry about it having repasted again since I decided to use graphite onto his system.
@@josephchristianruiz6581 awesome !cheers
Are you likely to get a mech15, 5900, 3080 in a video any time soon? Interested to see the top spec model in action?
Nice work Bob!
How would you compare a Legion 5 with 4800h, RTX 2060 (115 W) and a MUX switch against this Strix G15?
that's faster due to mux switch and superior thermals
thanks for the video! what's the exact thermal conductivity of K5 pro? I couldn't find it, same with Arctic MX 5 lol. Also, any luck on GPU undervolting after disabling dynamic boost?
Unfortunately disabling Boost on the Aorus results is weird CPU behavior that drops to around 30w off and on. I brought it up on the other channel.
Bob, i have hp omen 17 with 10750H and 2080super. I love it, but the cpu gets to the 96-100C°. That's even after i asked an official service to repaste and they've put Arctic mx-2. What would you recommend? Better paste or only liquid metal would help me? This is with undervolted cpu. Gpu temps are from 65-73max.
i did my repaste last night on the 10750h on my asus g512 last night and i just used regular artic mx4 only the cpu had liquid metal on it. My temps when gaming on the cpu was like 99c and it went down to like the low 90s. I figured it would have went down more. but its still better than it was. So paste doesnt really matter to much. I just dont like messing with liquid metal.
Hi Bob, great video. I intend to repaste my Asus M15 Zephyrus (which also uses liquid metal as stock product). Would you say the process should be pretty much equivalent? I also intend to replace the fans as they are having some weird noises
Did you repaste it?
Why did you repaste?
How does the temperature, acoustics and performance pre & post repaste?
@@therealb888 Hi there, yes I did, i used kingpin KPx on both CPU and GPU. I would say thermals are definitely better, previously my GPU got easily to 86-87, now i'm closer to 83-84. CPU is pretty much similar. Overral it's a bit better and the good thing is that thermal throttling occurs with a lesser frequency now (it still occurs though...). The chasis of the M15 is way too thin i guess. Ask me anything about the process if you're interested. GL
@@anibalhuneeus my fan is making weird buzzing, humming noise also. Did you do sth abt yours?
Bob i didn't see the heatsink being coated with LM? Is it optional? I still paint the heatsink even with normal thermal paste.
normal paste itd be no downside, but LM you want to control where it goes as much as possible. too much can easily fry the laptop
@@bradhaines3142 yes i know LM can destroy the entire board if tape and foam dam isn't used along with conformal coating or nail polish
He did mention that he put a thin amount of LM on the nickel painted part of heatsink that corresponds to the CPU. He didn't show it but he did say that he did it.
Very interesting repaste video, considering OEMs and even high end boutique vendors are going for heterogeneous thermal interfaces, liquid metal on CPU and paste on GPU. I have never applied/reapplied liquid metal so here are my concerns:
While repasting the GPU, can we leave the liquid metal as is on the heatsink and GPU die instead of removing it and cleaning the surfaces for reapply? or does removing the heatsink screw up the perfect contact and fitment needed for liquid metal to perform it's magic and are forced to reapply liquid metal every couple of years just to repaste the GPU?
Knowing that liquid metal (LM) if left alone can easily last 5 to 7 years without degradation according to some users on notebookreview forums and my vendor HIDevolution told me LM is good for the life of the system I do not like this new approach one bit.
Liquid metal is much more expensive, requires higher skill and patience to apply (risk of shorting MOBO) plus is not easy to find outside of Europe, USA and rich Asia (Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, Japan, Australia). So when the thermal paste on the GPU eventually dries out and pushes out in 1 to 2 years (unless you use phobya nanogrease or IC diamond, 3/4 years), so the user needs to repaste the GPU but if he can't find liquid metal, can he just leave it on the heatsink and CPU die or will he have to remove the LM and downgrade to thermal paste?
I mean I get it why they put paste on GPU and liquid metal on the CPU because the heat-pipes are shared they give the better thermal conductivity interface to the hotter CPU so they GPU runs warmer because exchanges less heat to not saturate the heatsink so much. But this is wasteful and super expensive when it comes to maintenance and reapply... I prefer Liquid Metal on both CPU and GPU as done on my laptop (can't be bothered with repastes) but the fact that recently, even high end boutique vendors are doing this heterogeneous approach to TIM is not to my liking one bit and they are charging the same price as they did for liquid metal on both CPU and GPU back in 2019-late 2020...
Once you break the LM seal you really should clean and redo it.
The reason why LM isn’t on the GPU is because Nvidia won’t honor the warranty. Companies like HID eat it should the GPU fail.
@@BobOfAllTrades Well sheet... I got lucky to get a laptop before Nvidia pulled that warranty stunt on liquid metal. I don't plan to upgrade until 2023 (raptor/meteor lake or Zen 5/5+, RDNA 3 or Lovelace/Hopper) I hope it gets sorted out by then, or vendors at least use long lasting paste like phobia nanogrease and not Gelid or kryonaut.
@@Frencho9 You can’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to warranty failure on my product that you put liquid metal on either.
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks for explanation, I really thought it was a cost saving/thermal optimization rational decision due to shared heatpipes. But turns out it's just Nvidia being ahole drama queen as usual. I mean, if CPU makers are cool with liquid metal when manufacturers like Asus or Playstation put the necesary safeguards like foam dams and kapton tape I don't see why Nvidia makes a fuss about that. If you can do it for a CPU SoC so can you for a GPU SoC. OEMs and vendors always getting the shaft with Nvidia, G-Sync certification fees on a per panel basis is another cutthroat thing they do. I wonder if AMD will greenlight liquid metal on their mobile dGPU if OEMs guarantee anti spill safeguards. Also I hope we get freesync on the AMD dGPU and not have to bypass via the vega iGPU like on ampere cards (again I suspect Nvidia not playing nice with AMD freesync just to push their G-sync). No wonder TSMC does not want to do business with them lol.
@@Frencho9 The contact points around the die and much harder to cover versus an Intel CPU for example.
Bob, what was the fan noise like on balanced profile on the mech 15 g3, i only saw max fan at 52db, was it too loud for headphoneless gaming other than office mode? How was that 1440p screen in non gaming scenarios, was the text sharpness noticeable? I dont think i could run it at 100% scaling, probably 125-150%. I ask because im starting to do alot of text based work on the computer work doing programming. A high quality 17 inch 1080p FHD panel should be just as good and be ran at 100% scaling? I haven't been able to look at enough QHD or 4k screens even with scaling to compare. Do you know if windows 10 still suffers bad from scaling issues? its either that 15.6 inch mech 15 g3 1440p or MSI GE76 Raider 17.3 inch 1080p, Im trying to decide between these two machines.
Bob, when are you testing the Eluktronics max 17 covert with the qhd dispay and the rtx3070/3080. I'm thinking of getting one with the 3070 but I don't see too many reviews for it out there.
Give me a bit. I have three products to review next then some interesting things coming. But yes, I will very likely be covering one of those 👍
@@BobOfAllTrades you DA man 💪👏
Hey guys what is the alternative for K5? I've heard some bad stuff about it that is boils and leaves bubbles also i don't have access to it in my country I'm also sure that the blue stuff is dry and i had to replace it...is there any other option other than K5 and pads?
The custom plastic covering on my cpu had a bubble in it. Should i do something?
The blue things are PADS, not grease. Please do not replace them with grease! I replaced them with grease leading to worse cooling.
If you’re referring to K5 pro as grease as in TIM, that it not what that stuff is for.
K5 is for exactly what it was used for in this video. The laptop of his is going strong still as of today 👍
What paste u used for power section? In mine triton 500 they used some red factory so i change it after year for conductonaut. In many forums ppl always says to use thermal pads but in mine case even factory didn't use it only in one place even there i used fat amount of grizzly ( it's save in mine opinion i know whole power section and vrams got contact with cooler plate ) what do u think?
Thank you so much
Hello, a query which profile did you use in the Armory app?
Can I have the links for the correct pastes and liquid metal to use do you use the same stuff for vram chips as well?
I just bought this device, so your advice it’s to leave it as it is, just lower cpu voltage and gpu voltage?
I have the same model, the question is can i repaste with non LM such as Kingpin KPX or kryonaut? Considering Asus has used Liquid Metal before in this model
is it possible to open up and clean fans completely? I would like to make sure there is not a single dust particle left behind in fan casing
i notice asus still doing the design where they dont give vent to the bottom fans
I think this is a 2020 laptop, as it comes with RTX 2060, says the description.
What if I put thermal paste in one component but a thermal pad in the other? I plan on using the PTM7950 for the cpu. If I bring the heatsink out, will I need to replace the pad as well?
Why would you repaste the CPU?asus already put the same LM you put on there.
Now maybe you weren't pleased with their application of it?
And I can understand the need for it on the gpu.....idk lol
We didn’t know it had LM. This isn’t my laptop so I don’t know if it said so on the box and it didn’t say it with a sticker on the laptop.
The owner didn’t know either.
@@BobOfAllTrades does using LM on the GPU make sense? (I would assume it does but completely covering everything as to avoid a potential short... Sounds dangerous)
@@anibalhuneeus It has some modest benefits but there’s really only a few companies out there that will offer it an even less that do it correctly.
@@BobOfAllTrades thanks for that info. I will try both the cpu and gpu first with kingpin then and if not satisfied will proceed with LM on the cpu only
Mine have the RTX 2070, the model is G512LW and I want to know if mine has the liquid metal to cool the laptop.
I couldn’t tell you. You’ll need to look at the box, the stickers on the laptop or loom up your specific model number to research it.
Hey Bob I'm planning to do a repaste on my G15. Quick question why did you apply different pastes for the vram, cpu and gpu, why not the same for all?
Thermal pad replacement paste is different than cpu/gpu die paste. The surface material, viscosity and temp requirements are different.
Should you use cpu/gpu paste everywhere, you could be slowly frying your surrounding components without knowing it since most is not read by sensors.
@@BobOfAllTrades Oh I didn't know that. Also is there a problem if I don't apply new thermal pad replacement paste and use the ones thats there already instead of scrapping it. Thank you!
@@georgyjacob6810 I’ve done that once. I can’t recommend it personally because I didn’t have the laptop long enough to see the outcome.
@@BobOfAllTrades Can you recommend multiple other thermal pad pastes because the K5 Pro isn't available in my area
@@georgyjacob6810 That’s the only one I have experience with and that’s the only one that was recommended to me by the best tech guys around.
And BTW don't use K5 , I've seen some pretty nasty photos of ppl complaing that it boils when components get super hot, creating holes in the k5 paste applied in the components, you can just use Grizzly thermal (the grey one he used)paste on all the components and it will do the job very well , don't use the k5 white paste !
Never had problems with K-5 Pro for components. But you're right, you can use normal thermal paste as well for components! Cheers
I have a doubt what if I applied Liquid Metal on gpu as well ? Plz reply 🙏🏻
When I reconnected the battery it will now only work while its plugged in...do you have to push that clip back into place?
Hi,did you apply liquid metal on the gpu ?
I dont know how you get those cool cpu thermals, seems like i would have to repaste my g15 too (10750h + rtx 2070 115w)
Specially cpu liquid metal
Can I apply a normal thermal paste like Deepcool Z5 or it needs to be only liquid metal?
you can use regular paste. though lm usually is the better performer.
Bob, hp omen got bios update, can you provide a review on that 😅
"Trust me, I'm bald", made me laugh!
Hi, do i need to put liquid metal on the heatsink it self?
How to replace the foam protection from Liquid Metal for the CPU?
On laptop vram and vrms what to use bro pls tell me
I own rog strix g15
For cpu i oredered liquid metal of thermal grizzly for gpu ordered thermal grizzly extreme
For vram and vrms what to use som say pad and some paste
Can iuse Arctic mx4 for vram and vrms pls reply
I took this apart without realizing I needed liquid metal and different pastes
after how much time should i repaste the laptop? I had it for 2 years now.
Is 10 g k5 pro enough to repaste one rog strix g15 only for vrams and vrms
I got k5 pro 10grams variant is that enough for 1 laptop,my laptop is rog strix g15
do you get improved performance with k5 pro?
How many mm for the pads? For Rog Strix G512li ?
Can you please make a video for the G17?
Its ofc same temperature.. if u play in powe mode...in silent mode its much better
I think with AMD Processor ? Bit better ?
I guess my comment got deleted because I put an external link in, but I don't know how to show you in i-m-g-u-r. I pulled a similar model heatsink off and the cpu had the liquid metal on it but it appears to have gotten under that protective layer and even looks to be on some of the resistors/capacitors? on top of the cpu. But the computer turns on. I want to get it cleaned off but not sure, first, if I need to get the residue from underneath, and if so, how to access it to fully clean it properly.
@@ryanmann44 remove the film that covers the pcb, clean off the Liquid Metal and then use regular nonconductive thermal interface material 👍
Hey I just applied thermal paste to both the CPU and the GPU. Is this going to cause a problem? Do i need the liquid metal?
Liquid Metal is not necessary.
@@BobOfAllTrades thanks. Have you ever had an issue after repasting and reconnecting the battery that the laptop won't power on?
@@MetaModern87 I have with a Dell before. It eventually came back alive
@@BobOfAllTrades just kept it on the charger for awhile or what? My g17 is currently not responding. No charging light either.
@@MetaModern87 I honestly don’t exactly remember what I did. I just know that it eventually came back on. But I don’t think it was any longer than maybe 3 to 5 minutes. We’re talking about something that probably happened seven or eight years ago.
Why don't you remove all the blue material from the pads?? is it because of something in particular?? (i kind of prefer a clean interface with the k5 pro install)
There’s no point thermally but I truly appreciate you for wanting to do so.
@@BobOfAllTrades haha good to know, I thought i may have screwed the instalation. For the vram chips would you recommend kryonaut / kingpin or kp5 pro?
Kp5 will be just fine 👍
@@BobOfAllTrades can i use Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 for vram?
hello can you tell me if this laptop has thermal pads or its using thermal paste instead of pads ?
Tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video 😂
Man I really wish I could unlock the BIOS on my Helios 300. I'm running at 73C at full load on the GPU pulling 80W, there's easily room for 10-15 more watts. Already repasted and repadded the thing so the only step left is the BIOS unlock and I'd rather do it by dumping the bios using software only and no external hardware.
Could u link to that kpro thermal goop I have been using just noctua thermal paste on the vrms I wouldnt mind putting continuing better on my gs66 stealth I might liquid metal it but it's not that much of a difference I mean it's good but it's still loud
Sure I just added my storefront Amazon page to the description and K5 pro will be linked within
my asus rog scar 2 GL504GW with bios 307 can no longer be able to undervolted neither in bios nor throttlestop :( i can't downgrade my bios to 305 cause it will causes apps crashing as i just replaced the motherboard :(. Do you know where i can find modded bios for 307 GL504GW?
There might be a way to downgrade bios using ezflash usb method. If the older bios has older mei firmware it won't work correctly since mei firmware can't be downgraded aside from using hardware spi flasher
Can i use thermal pads instead of paste?? And what brand liquid metal is?
They use thermal paste on those components for a reason getting the thinnest thermal pad might work or it might not. And thermal grizzly is probably one of your better choices for liquid metal.
@@BobOfAllTrades i have 33gr of grizzly i will be fine for a while. Can i use liquid metal on gpu? Is silver king good too?
@@BobOfAllTradesDo I have to worry about the thermal putty touching motherboard components? Also do I have to remove all the thermal putty before applying new? I'm going to use the LAIRD Tputty 607.
Can i use one thermal paste to cpu and gpu and vram also?
What’s used for the CPU/GPU should not be used for the rest. Too many gaps and heat will dry TIM up quickly.
Holy crap he's only gone and done it 😅
what is the type of paste you put on the power delivery?
I’m positive it was mentioned 👌
Nice job, but for the repaste game testing, put at least the game on the same spot, so it's not biased
Can we use paste instead of liquid?
Of course!
How long does liquid metal last ?
Lifespan is about 1-2 Years, but when you using PC/Notebook very often and CPU gets very often hot i would replace every year, just to be sure to stay with lower temps. Cheers
Hey, what is that metal liquid ? Plss
My inglis is not good, can you tell me what did you use for CPU GPU and those litle component? Or what can i use for now since is 3 years ago, ( maybe better products now) thanks
@@silverdefenders7373 Hello.
For CPU use thermal grizzly condoctonaut.
For GPU use thermal grizzly kryonaut.
For the little components use k5 pro, or normal thermal pads.
You can find all these things online
is there an Asus laptop that does not run hot?
I'm buying a Asus g16 with liquid metal, can I just pay a computer shop to replace with thermal paste?
Hey I know it an old video but I have a problem with the same laptop now n before I'll hange the fan I would like to adk u a question maybe 5 😅
Yikes, did something go bad with encoding the video because it's so, I don't know, glitchy? And nice for the video.
it's fine, you're talking about the gameplay footage? That's the capture card or some issue, the video for repasting is clearly normal as is his other videos. His gameplay footage/MSI afterburner overlay always looks like that
@@roboticvenom1935 nah i see what he's talking about. look at 2:50 the board red part has horizontal lines fluctuating, and i'm on 1080p. probably a rendering issue of codecs. i mean, by no means does it ruin anything but it is noticeable.
This was my first UHD render with this camera. Plus I’m getting use to the settings to render this footage with a Ryzen CPU. Lots of different things happening here so better to try this out on a video like this versus a review that actually gets views 👍
@@BobOfAllTrades oh, I see. All is good. Just saying how it looks like :D
@@Janzer_ you're right! But it's much less drastic then the gameplay footage, I honestly can hardly tell with normal footage
hii haw you can undervolt GPU plz i have some pc asus rog strix g512lv (10870H 2060 115w) plz
can i replace the liquid metal with thermal paste?
Absolutely 👍
@@BobOfAllTrades thanks :D
Can i Use liquid metal in GPU as well than CPU??
Yes but I don’t suggest it. Protecting the outside of the die on the GPU is challenging and doing it perfectly without compromising the die to cooler contact is difficult.
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks, I will use Conductonaut from Thermal Grizzlie in CPU and Kryonaut in the GPU, Nice Tutorial, i have the same laptop🥺🥺
@@BobOfAllTrades I have another question, i don't have K5 Pro, so, can i Use thermal pads instead?? And if is yes, what is the mm that you recommend??, Sorry if my english is not the best, i am from Chile, Thanks a lot
@@Kirschbluteee It’s risky, but thinner would likely be your best bet since paste was used. If it’s too thick you’ll have poor CPU/GPU contact and you’ll notice this quickly. If it’s too thin you won’t notice it right away, if at all. It’ll either throttle and you won’t know why or you’ll burn something out.
I’d source something appropriate even if it’s a K5 substitute.
hello everyone, I have a g531gw laptop, I get 20 FPS on warzone and my GPU displays 95°, is this the cause of the fps loss? How to solve this problem ? thank you all
That doesn’t seem right. Did you take yours apart? Did it perform better on this title previously or is this your first time?How many sticks of memory?
@@BobOfAllTrades I bought my new motherboard, I applied thermal paste (noctua nt-h1). I have 2 sticks of RAM 16GB (2x8)
K5 pro costs a lot😂 so can I use Arctic mx4 paste on vram and vrms
@@m.smanoj4688 I’m sure it doesn’t cost as much as a new motherboard replacement when a chip fry’s from not using the correct paste.
@@BobOfAllTrades ok as u told and as your advice ardered k5 pro for laptop vram and vrms
Wow that gpu undervolting is crazy
Absolutely I’ve been talking about it creating different tutorials for about two years now
How do you undervolt the cpu in the bios
search voltage configuration
Got a question regarding thermal paste for components, do I have to use something different or can use any other? Like for example why did Bob here used K5 Pro for components and Phobian Nano greace for the cpu/gpu?
Hi, if you want you can also use the same thermal paste for the components like pasting the gpu. K-5 Pro, like mentioned in the video, is in my opinion the best for components. For GPU i have best experience with Arctic MX-4. Liquid Metal is best for CPU's, cause they getting very hot in full load. Cheers
So nano grease extreme is the best thermal paste (non liquid)
The processor temperature exceeds 85 is this normal
@@Mouh.vol2 it is
@@BobOfAllTrades No, I mean 90 and sometimes it reaches 100 in red dead redemption 2
@@BobOfAllTrades What do u recommend
@@Mouh.vol2 turn down wattage of cpu
@@BobOfAllTrades I have tried throttlestop But it's locked my laptop is rog strix g15 i7 10850h
how i can put the -.080mv in the rog bios ?
That’s going to depend on the laptop model, CPU and bios.
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks, I have, the G712LU model is practically the same as that model, only with the 17-inch screen and with a 1660ti instead of a 2060, but in the rest it is the same.
Also apply the mv of 80 to the CPU.
I have not made any changes to the GPU, as I always use the TURBO profile in the Asus Armory app.
Trust me...I'm bald. Lmao!
Sometimes you’ve got to just lean into it.
Can anyone tell k5 pro alternative available in india
just use normal thermal pads