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- Ah Death Note. For many, it was their first exposure to something beyond battle shonen in the mid-2000s. The creators are back making psychological thrillers, so does it match what these legends are known for? Come see my reaction!
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For those coming down just to downvote first, please consider watching the video! If you enjoy Platinum End, thats fine! This video is just me articulating my thoughts as to why *I* personally find it weak.
Don't worry, platinum end is trash, I am not even comparing it but normally many would have dropped it simply but its marketing point was "from the author of death note" and excellent teasers, that's why it fell down so hard
For me, I am enjoying the series. Even it's kinda cringe at times but so far I am having a blast. I respect you and other people criticisms about the show. Let's just get along and respect each others opinions.
I dropped it after the second episode. And this breakdown justified my decision. Put a 100 🐒 in a room with typewriters they will come up with a better story.
@@akuheikeiserllen3078 lol you sound like a frustrated mangaka.
@@akuheikeiserllen3078 malding
I’m an anime only so I don’t know what happens in the manga, but man do all the characters feel so lame and shallow. And it’s so upsetting because the premise is so cool and could have been super interesting.
Wait what? How is the premise even "cool"?..... It is about a depressed suicidal guy, gaining wings and other power ups to seek happiness, from that alone you might think "oh this anime is about the boy bringing salvation to people!" WRONG, all of a sudden they randomley throw him in this whole "god canidate" position, and even worse, BATTLE ROYALE?!?! Battle Royale is everywhere, in movies, games, and other anime, it's extremely stale, the whole plot is revolved being the last man standing, theres nothing else! So for some reason this guy who had lived through hell, gets forced to be in a battle royale... Everything is so inconsistent don't even get me started with how the villian has technology more advanced than the current era, ESPECIALLY the transformers suit?! The hell. Everything feels so out of place.
Thats the huge rub for me. Such flat and uninteresting, often cringeworthy, characters thrown into a premise with such potential. Not to mention how INCREDIBLE the art is.
@@ahri-theninetailedfox3535 no I think they mean just the whole battle royale of gods would be a cool concept if done correctly.
@@oni123 Trust me man, it's too stale of a genre, lets take Romcom for example, its unique in many ways, you can take Ore Monogatari, Rent a girlfriend, Love is war, and etc, each has their own way of telling the story and concept. Comparison to royale, no matter what type of characters you add, the plot will never be interesting. I learn't this from watching Hunger Games, Mirai Nikki, all Royale games, and etc
@@ahri-theninetailedfox3535 Yes, it is indeed stale but it’s popular, so the entire premise is intriguing to many. And then they watch platinum end and it isn’t even executed well leading to disappointment.
Honestly, my biggest issue with the series is how amazing the art is. The absolute definition of lipstick on a pig. Hoping show-ha shoten gets a physical release in english so i can have it on my shelves
Definately agree, It actually infuriated me reading how next level Obatas effort was. Just wasted on writing.
Disagree. It doesn’t even have that going for itself. The art is fine but nothing incredible when compared to modern, or even older works. Rather the animation is the problem. There are so many times where you can see how cheaply made it is. Click and drag animations and cg work rather than actual animation.
Also I completely agree with the video of how the passivity and lack of interest to do anything from the main protagonist is why this show is such a pile of shit. Both Light and the two Bakuman mcs had such drive and passion to accomplish what they want to achieve. Honestly if we had had Light 2.0 in this game of heavenly shit, this would already be a 7/10 by default
I just realized you meant the manga art in which case oh 1000%
@@martinandreev5204 fr expectially the manga covers
on god
Man that ending left me feeling dead inside like I wasted my time
Because you did, it's an ingot of shit covered in fool's gold to make people feel smart for supporting it.
the ending feels like the author just had a weird midlife/existential crisis in the middle of writing the ending and it took over the message of whatever the hell he was trying to say.
Damn this anime makes me feel empty with that ending.. 😂😂😂 if i known i wouldn't have watch..
Not just the endings the whole series is flop the mc is fk reall fucker
@@FeministCatwoman You're on point
Now... is it me or is the overall setting/environment completely inconsistent on what it wants to be? On one hand, it's meant to be an urban dark fantasy, much like Death Note, but then it has these random sci-fi elements with the goofy ass Power Rangers suits, the uber- deadly viruses, and Kaneda's freaking house where he sleeps in a literal space pod. Did Ohba just not feel like picking one genre and sticking to it?
ONG.
@@gguille12 Oh I've definitely seen that in games and other mediums, and I don't think it's a bad thing to consider at all. But the issue here, in my opinion, is that it's not blended or molded together as neatly as Final Fantasy. Like Kanade's entire house looking like a space ship while everything else outside that is just.... plain and modern. I get that he comes from a rich family, but that's a pretty over the top way of showing that, to me at least.
I don't think this is the real problem of this anime. And it's "recent day" urban dark fantasy so you can expect the rich ass psychopath Kaneda using his wealth and influence parading himself as an "Iron man". This is actually the message of the story. Do you think the rich ass Tony Stark will be actually using their power to save people. No. They would just use it for their own's end. Watch the EP 14 it will change many things you are thinking right here.
And Oh I hate many aspects of this anime. But I like how they created and deconstruct Pedopoliman character. Not only for shock value like in the first 5 ep. But eventually come to social criticism as "Do you want to leave the fate of the world in the hand of a rich psychopath who pretend to be heroic?"
@@RaccoonGrrrl Just watched that today earlier. While I did think the message/criticism actually made for a pretty compelling idea, I do wish the story actually took the time to expand on it as well as his family's background in that field exactly like how Tony's was developed in the MCU. If the "UWU!! MY LIL SISTER WHO I LUSTED AFTER FELL OFF MY MOST STUPIDLY MADE TOWER EVER IN DUH FLOWER GARDEN!! NOW I CANNOT LIIIIIIIVE!!" part was erased in favor of that, it would've worked out much better for his rich man .vs. poor man mantra.
But I very much agree that this show has a lot more clownery than just that. So thanks for the heads up!
Or one piece, that has somany genre, mainly because oda upon having to continue one piece di put hin his other ideas for manga in one piece. It can work.
Or city odf dead sorcerer
Jut youneed to make allof them apealing on their own and transition good enough
I believe that Tsugumi Ohba may have felt the pressure of success. He may thought: "They expect me to write something similar to Death Note. Something that will make them go wow. But I'm out of ideas." and so, we got Platinum End. Or even he may have written it, because he thought we would take him seriously as a writer. He didn't want to write for another teenager trying to kill criminals by using a notebook. Sometimes artists feel this strongly when their work is commercially successful. Many of them when they try something different from what people expected them to do, usually this new piece of art is characterized as a failure. That's what happened with Tsugumi Ohba.
yeah this seems like a common pattern. Many ppl put all their good ideas into their "peak" work.
agreed
No excuse for making such a garbage anime.
yea
Yeah I actually enjoyed it though, it definitely could have been better but it’s not total garbage. If if were, I wouldn’t have taken the time to finish it lol
When i read the manga i was expecting the protagonist to slowly realize how wicked his world was and resolve to challenge his inner demons with the help of Mukaido (and with that also developping his relation with Saki + MAYBE slide into a more realistic moral compass ???). I really thought that the direction the story was gonna take was how the protagonist would try to stop a bloodshed and realize how shallow his ideals were, and finally try to gain agency by working with Mukaido and Saki (With both confronting their traumas and suicidal tendencies by having a HUGE talk and the MC forgiving her to balance for the edginess of the show). I Also thought that the antagonist was gonna be more than an edgy teenager willing to destroy the poor for the sake of pseudo capitalist ideas, i was expecting him to be selfish and inconsistent, mainly dealing with the death of his sister by denial and slowly falling into madness. The main problem i have here is that the themes and how they are handled are SO bad ! I feel like the problem here is how ohba tried to convey were fist hammered and, unlike Death Note, the question of right and wrong was aborded frontally instead of just straight up let it go as subtext. The dialogues were superficial and the caracters and themes shallow, it's so sad because there was a way this manga and anime could have been pretty good, and it didn't even need *that* big of a change. The premice sure fooled me.
Why's nobody talking about how stupid Kanaede was as the first villain. He wanted to become god, by killing the other candidates. So he publicly announced his plan and then got mad that everyone layed low. This anime feels like an early idea that was rejected long time ago.
For real tho. The best way I heard it described was that Platinum End felt more like one of the manga-within-a-manga that they made for Bakuman than an actual series that was meant to exist.
It kinda feels like jump told the mangaka to make 'Death Note 2' and they just kinda half assed it since it's not really a story they wanted to tell. I can definitely imagine the two of them giggling as they make each successive scene more nonsensical than the last. Fingers crossed the next manga they make is about fishing across the world
Not sure I agree. I think they did decide they wanted to do a psychological thriller, but somewhere along the way became confused if it was supposed to be an existential satire or a more serious introspective work. My comparisons to death note were only to compare what I know the writer is capable of, not to say "its not death note, so its bad"
@@Akezura Ye I see what you mean. I guess one thing I'm sure of is that Ohba gotten complacent while writing it and it shows that even the best can make something mediocre.
Platinum end isn't on shonen jump, my guy 💀
@Yellow Spiderman 2 Do you actually think Shueisha *only* owns shonen jump? My guy, they own Jump S.Q(the magazine platinum end published in), Saikyo Jump, V Jump, Jump Giga, Bessatsu Shonen Jump, Fresh Jump, Monthly Shonen Jump, Akamaru Jump, Shonen Jump Next, Weekly Young Jump, Ultra Jump, Grand Jump, Grand Jump Mecha, Grand Jump Mucha, Hobby's Jump, Business Jump, Super Jump, Monthly Young Jump, Jump x [Kai], Grand Jump Premium, Miracle Jump, and *MANY* more magazines that aren't even jump related. Do your research before trying to argue with me kid.
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What if the Death Note writer made a deal with a certain sussy baka to gain the ability to write a great and successful manga story - kind of like how Death Note has Shinigami making supernatural deals and Platinum End has floating angels giving out powers. Now with his new writing abilities that he gained from this deal he uses his supernatural power and begins writing Death Note. However, the deal the writer made with the sussy baka is only temporary and also the deal had a price. The price of this deal was after the writing ability wears off then the writer is going to slowly find himself to be able to only write lackluster stories. He is now unfortunately half way through writing the Death Note story. Everything he has wrote thus far has been amazing, but now he no longer has the ability to magically come up with a great manga story. He begins to slowly falter with the Death Note story and begins writing things that don't really make sense, for example he suddenly and randomly kills off L. The writer panics and wants to end the story fast as to not drag it on. He introduces Near and Mello for some odd reason and somehow Near demolish Light's intelligence through the power of plot. The writer finally ends the Death Note story before he makes anymore mistakes.
Years later, he then he writes Platinum End but his supernatural writing ability is completely gone. Not even a single fading trace of his once glorious power remains. He is now cursed to make bad boring stories such as Platinum End.
But HEY! That's just a theory... a CRACKHEAD THEORY!!!
Lol
Tldr
smiled at this
i felt the same after finishing the manga all i really liked about it was the art everything else was sadly just meh
They literally trolled fans at the end. The story from a viewer perspective was ".....and so a random stranger won and (start playing rickrolled clip)". I can't fathom what the writers were thinking but I am pretty sure it was after smoking LSD. How can you end a story with some random side character winning and then killing everyone for no reason.
I tried this anime and it like a death tournament with badly emotional detailed cast. Like the suidical lead, the shy lover miss doppelganger, the so called god richie boy. I still see mukakido view point as striving father protecting his family.
It's what I keep on saying. The entire story could have been about Mukaido fighting cancer on one side with Metropoliman on the other one and we would have still gotten something better than this ingot of shit.
I don't see it anywhere near the level of Death Note either, but I think the concept is really cool and it has potential for some hype scenes and emotional moments.
It's just a very different anime. I mean, you can't expect a second Death Note, that would be unrealistically high expectations.
Right, but my references to Death Note were *not* in terms of spesific plot elements, or themes, or what have you, but rather where Ohba's writing works and where it doesn't. To that end, I feel my criticisms are totally valid to make. Also, why not also mention my comparisons to Bakuman?
@Manvëru ofc, it's same author. Sure it's different story but doesnt mean it should be this shit even without comparing to death note
I dropped this after like 3 episodes. Glad to know I was not missing anything
You should watch ep14. Probably the best ep of the show ever
@@harishmahadevan9170 beta ghanghor paap kar rahe ho tum 😄
Lucky for you!! I watched it till then end.. Not worth it.. 😂
While I do enjoy Platinum End, I do believe it's the weakest link among the works of these two who I absolutely admire.
That being said, Tsugumi has mentioned that no, L isn't "morally righteous". They are both childish in nature. L only engages in this as a form of challenge and not from the point of view of being the enbodiment of justice. According to Ohba, Soichiro Yagami (Light's father) is the only morally righteous one.
L is morally right thou, sure its a bitselfish of him for the sake of the sport to not use every mean aviable to go upon light once he is sure, and he can be a bit sociopathic, but he is morally right in the manga
@Pablo L f***ing THANK YOU! OMFG! FEELS GOOD to hear someone else say it. I keep trying to tell people. For L; kira was just another unsolved mystery. It states clearly in the manga that L only ever showed up to the toughest, most unsolveable cases. He was like an autist and what's worse is that in a professional sense? L literally frsternizes with Kira. In Light; L sees a potential equal or at least a challenge. God it feels like the bastard realizes how lonely he is halfway through. And I will forever hate how Near and Mello are like this wierd split soul reincarnation of L.
I ended up getting what I wantes out of desth note when I watched Code Geass. Lelouch is Light Yagame/death note done the right way basically and Lelouch actuallt succeeds where as light proves to be a 14 year old boy who was more talk then action and thus ended up shooting himself in the foot on multiple occasions. For me desth note ends at episode 24 or wpisode 36. XD
@@marocat4749 L just so happens to be morally right by association. L's organization wasn't necessarily out trying to better the world. It was making use of savants is what it seems. Putting them to task on world puzzles/cases.
Mello kind of proves this; because he joined a gang and probably did some messed up shit in order to achieve his ends. Mello manipulates the lives of gangsters and gwts them killed in order to bring down kira. Near and Light also use and manipulate people in order to bring down light.
For this one... I say it comes down to who was around to write history when it was all over. Something in the manga not shown in the anine is the cult that misa amane starts that worships kira.
There is also the dialogue at the end between the detectives. Crime rate went down by 70% globally and world wars stopped altogether.... It's a violation of free will and this and that but foe the first time ever? Kira was a force that was holding the entire world accountable. The world recieved a huge ass whooping from momma kira. One it won't soon forget even if kira failed his intent and BOY did he fail. Homeboy wiped some genetics from the gene pool altogether during his reign. I legit hate kira for being so half assed in some ways but smart in others. Like outting himself by killing the death row inmate on tv.
Then again would any publication accept a Kira wins scenario? The most interesting part about Death Note was for a moment just how fucking BATMAN Kira was suping up to be. And then welll.... Ya know....
@@marocat4749 he’s not a good person. He may be morally correct in that instance but it doesn’t mean he’s morally correct in general.
Damn I feel really out of place enjoying the hell out of this show
I’m sorry to hear your standards are so low
I do too. In fact, it's been a long time since I have been invested in an anime to this extent.
@@AwsOm3Fac3 people go crazy over sword art online and u call this weak? dude i just cant. i know it isnt his best work but i can say i like it really much.
@@mystischeelfe6439 people can enjoy what they want and complain about what they want but the ending for the story here sucks.
@@Mr.man712 yeah but it doesn't make the whole thing trash
I read the manga before the anime came out. And honestly I have to agree. I thought it was just me who was a bit disappointed. And I was kinda confused a bit too sometimes. But i would understand why someone could like it. It’s just not for me. I laughter out loud at the end too
I'm glad you pointed out about how Gantz's edginess at least served the purpose of worldbuilding. It showed why characters acted the way they did. The protagonist of Platinum End seems to think he's in a much more nuanced world then the world he's existing in.
I just watched the latest episode of the series. I understand the points of criticism, but the fact is, I actually enjoyed it. Ultimately, that's probably what really matters: How the audience perceives it at an individual level.
it is tras just trash 🚮
@@akshattewari5313 no
@@firemax8738 after kanade died it just became more trash and unwatchable
@@akshattewari5313I like platinum end but I do believe that it failed to deliver its message as Ending was pretty rushed. Publishers were mad as it wasn't successful so writer was forced to rush the ending.
@@firemax8738 my god and that stupid mc that guy was crying that nanato killed kanade but wasn't sad that his friend nanato died due to kanade.. Bruh i mean what the😵😵🗑🗑
am i the only one that truly loves this anime?
No but you can say that it have more hater than those who like it
Me too i like it
I remember reading like a good chunk of Platinum End and right now thinking on it, I can't remember a single thing that happened. It was so crazily bland that I couldn't actually believe that it was the same people who did Death Note.
I remember reading it on a whim, and I gave up halfway through cause it was so mind numbingly boring. I thought that was because it's manga format and I've always struggled with reading comics as a medium, but now that I've seen 15 eps of the anime I can say with 100% certainty it's just a terrible story. Also I remembered every single plot point, so I got the joy of already knowing what was gonna happen with absolutely no suspense.
Same here. I wanted to like it but I fell off pretty quickly. Kinda sad really.
Imagine if the people hating on the aot ending saw the ending to this
Man i swear platinum end ending is what they were wishing for in aot but im pretty sure if the same thing happens they'll still be hatin'
Every opinion is respectful, but having read the manga, and having watched both Death Note and Bakuman, I still don't compare them. Just because it's closer to Deathnote, it doesn't mean we have to compare everything about it. Because if we do, I should say that Platinum End has some more relatable characters, frankly speaking.
I hope you will never have to experience this to understand truly what I mean, but there are people who struggle with depression and have come too close to take our own life. In this story, each one of the characters wished their own death for a different reason. They have a different personality, different mindset, different beliefs, different limits and different values.
Mirai (which's name literally means future) doesn't kill not just because "he has faith in humanity", even if as you pointed out is messed up. He doesn't kill for his personal belief he won't find happiness if he does such a thing. He is one of the few characters I have seen that stands so much to his values no matter where the situations lead him. And when he takes action he does it because he doesn't wanna die anymore. He wants to have a future of happiness the way his long gone parents taught him, and he wants the same for this world. So I feel the way you present him is not quite correct.
Also the theoretical part that apparently annoyed you in the manga or the part that cringed you on cancel culture are actually matters of discussion and relevant to many people's thoughts. Maybe it's a cultural matter. Some of the main themes of this story are based in deep roots of Japanese mentality.
Was it too edgy and grotesque at some moments? Definitely. Who can deny that? But as I have noticed from your references and the amazing poster behind your back, this shouldn't surprise you, it's Japan we are talking about. And some characters reasons' seem swallow but isn't that also a part of reality? Metropoliman is just a spoiled brat with imouto complex and power is what feeds his huge ego, so crushing human lives is a part of that. He doesn't care. As long as he has what he wants. Because that's how he grew up. I won't say all of this is pure perfection, but it's a manga-anime story. And if nothing else it does give a bit of everything. And insane people that are given power ARE edgy. History has proved that. If I told you an artist that failed his exams for Fine Arts ended up causing a world war and cause genocide because he was given the power and supporters to do so...wouldn't that sound like an edgy isekai? And yet it literally happened...
And in the end...yes, it is nihilistic. Yes the end was...something. Something that we should expect by having a God the one character that what he wanted the most was to die. And he saw that even if his friends (?) may ran happy lives now, there is so much misery in this world his soul as a human child first of all couldn't bare and he knew it will never end. So it might not be our "perfect end". But it's not out of nowhere. It's just another perspective.
It's not the perfect anime. Not the perfect story. But downgrading it so lightly without actual arguments more than a personal perspective and some commenting, isn't a perfect review of it either. And saying it's not terrible in the video while titling it as "trash"... well... let's say it doesn't look great either.
My personal opinion is that the art is amazing, no doubt, the story is interesting and each character very different, the ending very nihilistic, and to me it gives very mixed feelings. But trash? No. Nothing that has this level of art and makes you sit down and think or gives you feelings should be called trash. It didn't do this for you. That's alright. But it does for other people.
I am sorry for the length of my comment, but I doubt it will be read anyway. If anyone does, have a happy holidays and thanks for your time.
I treated it as its own thing rather than "by the author of death note" thing. Yea it is a pretty shallow proposition, but still quite entertaining and funny. The pilot was pretty amazing but as you mentioned, it does explore so much of the japanese culture. Clearly this wasn't meant to be an extremely serious story and much more light hearted material (although it does have its deep moments). Death note maybe was a bit more neutral in that department, but Platinium End feels and breathes of japanese culture.
I think the one thing I didn't quite like was that some of the characters didn't feel very "human", but well not that bad. I think people always seem to strive for perfection but clearly imperfect things don't mean "shit".
I also watched Death Parade and watched Platinium End after it. Death Parade did delve more into the artistic side of things while Platinium End is more about a faster paced anime. I enjoyed both really. Can't wait for the next 12 episodes of Platinium End, and see how they translate the remaining bits of the manga into anime. Starting to think people are hating on this just because it isn't death note.
Its a 3/10
This is a more than fair analysis
tbh I feel like platinum end is supposed to be a shitfest. As we know, the main character is suicidal and doesn't care about anything around him, and in a sense the characters are designed to make us feel the same way. Having an overly edgy villain that, in an oversaturated market of overly edgy villains, is just annoying is similar to the view of how someone who genuinely doesn't care about the world would feel. Having characters that are never expanded on makes us feel similar to someone who doesn't care as we also do not care about them. Honestly this is just me trying to make sense out of how such a good author could write such a bad story, but it is what it is. What are your guys' thoughts?
Literally the guy with cancer was way more entertaining and relatable than Mirai.
Maybe u guys don't like it cause u expected more from these creators but got disappointed. I personally am not disappointed I really enjoy it. Not on death note level great but still good.
Ignorance is bliss
Well that’s the main problem, the only reason WHY this anime is even remotely relevant was due to the hype of supposedly being a death note part 2
I don’t know why, but Platinum End sounds like slightly more competent version Onision’s third book, “Reaper’s Creek.” It’s like edginess for the sake of edginess.
I like this show on a Philosophical note.
It’s hard to watch since I watch it with my best friend who recently got introduced to anine by watching death note, code geass, and bungo stray dogs. It’s so unispiring to sit through but my friends loves death note and is so excited to always watch another episode. I try to slog through it since he’s my friend but I have a feeling I will have to be honest with him soon and just say I don’t like the show…
get him to watch Ou-sama Ranking
@@Jun-Mo. so that he stops watching anime because of how shit the animation is and how it looks like a 90s cartoon for 12 yr old kids, ousama ranking is a cartoon kids would watch while getting their cereals spoonfed
Can we also acknowledge that platinum end should have taken place in korea or lithuania. Like the suicide rate in tokyo is bad but not as bad as those 2
To be honest I didn't even know the author was from DN and I just thought they had some similarities, So I never had hopes of this being good as or better then DN to begin with and my main problem with this show is basically how moronic the MC is from time to time... well all the time cause this MC doesn't have single brain cell and doesn't do shit, really is sad imo cause we can all agree this anime had potential with it's graphics animation and the concept 🤷♂️
When you really think about it Light Yagami had almost no regard for human life meanwhile Mirai Kakehashi is basically the exact opposite
Pretty sure the reason It even became so popular was because of the author.
People probably had high hopes the anime would be as good as death note but was met with disappointment, and so the drama started.
In my opinion, the anime went great until episode 5. That's where it all flopped tbh, annoying serial killer randomly appears, and later poliman out of nowhere brings 2 random characters we have never heard of. But that's all ig.
I watched this anime till episode 7, and I even agree with you. But I still like the anime very much.
I am a writer who is currently on hiatus, but after watching this anime, I can correct my mistakes which seems similar to the author of this anime. I'm a thriller writer and sometimes add psychology to it.
And if you are talking about how this anime is a copy of death note and the other anime I don't know, I don't think it's very bad thing. I think the writer was very impressed. And no story is 100% original. Sure, we shouldn't copy it that much that a reader/watcher can figure it out that this is copied from this anime or something.
When I saw it, I felt the death note vibes which is not good for the anime, but I can't help but like it anyways.
It looks like death note’s author had his right brain switched with the left
Who the hell starts with death note and automatically shifts straight to OH ITS A DEATH NOTE... when revising an entirely different anime about the exact opposite end of your ass...
I dont really like the story but the opening is soo good
Well I dropped the manga because of the mc years ago. But now with the anime I decided to give it a second chance. And I enjoy it for what it is. I know what to expect and I’m more patient with it.
It’s slightly above average but I cannot recommend it to anyone.
Feels a bit like a view it for the ending and never read it again sort of thing but it was much better than I expected it to be
"Slightly above average" fam you lying to yourself lmao
@@pesci20002010 how do you see it ?
@@donrog5035 It's anything but average and you call it slightly above?
Average means something that doesn't stand out but still does its job well because it follows a predetermined formula maybe with some minor twists to keep it interesting. Slightly-above-average, on the other hand, means following the predetermined formula with some major twists that are unusual for the genre; both of these definitions implicate that the anime/show is at least good and Platinum End is surely NOT even average.
While I may cut you some slack on the ending even though it was just an ingot of shit covered in fool's gold to make you think that you're smart for supporting it, there's a reason why Platinum End is considered absolute trash by anime content creators who know way more about what makes an anime objectively good (just look at Mother's Basement for example) than the medium Crunchyroll user who gave this show 4 stars out of 5.
TL;DR There's the "Sobaditsgood", there's "Average" which means decent and "Slightly above average" which means at least good. Platinum End is none of these.
I watched through the anime and it was quite a trip. In a good way. I appreciated the ending because it tells us never to give in, never give up, fight those demons! As Naruto would say, I never go back on my word.
It was more than a little embarrassing for me to have watched this for the first time, immediately gushed about it to everyone I knew because the OP and ED SLAPPED, and....oh. Oh so that's the series.
I've never laughed so hard at the end of a manga, though.
Lmao the ending is so fucking dumb, legit reminds me of the ending of Dragons Dogma.
Yeah after you watch the whole thing you are so dissatisfied
Plz the entire ending was an extended "mr. Stark, I don't feel so good..."
Small brain people dont understand the brilliance of the ending
Ok here is where my problem lies...in my honest opinion...I love the show alot. Obviously Platinum End will never live up to the legacy of Death Note because it is not intended to be Death Note's continuation. I think why people are hating this anime is because they had expectations that the anime would live up to the Death Note series and be similar. The thing is, every anime has it's own unique story and background. Platinum End is its own story in its own universe. Everyone expects this anime to be Death Note. It is not. Death Note for me will be better than Platinum End story wise but Platinum End also has it's own symbolism and story regarding morals and ethics.
Any comparisons I made to death note are to explain why concepts that are *already* similar work in death note but not platinum end. It’s totally valid to compare them, and I never said “Platinum End is bad because it’s not death note”
@@Akezura I know mate...not implying that you said it was bad because it's not Death Note...Just addressing the notion toward other Death Note fans from what I have discussed with other anime watchers
@@Akezura but u had expectations of it being similar to it nd u said it yourself in video its bad cuz its not death note
I personally hoped this would be completely different from Death Note (because we already have Death Note), which it is but well in kinda bad way.
Most of the themes are extremely poorly executed and undeveloped or simplified so its a joke.
This had so much potential but I do not like what they are doing with it
i was expecting a cool mc like light i was let down and the stupid ass costumes ..but hey cool opening song
And ending song was good to
The costumes could have worked in a tokusentai series albeit with some changes.
Episode 1 it got my attention now episode 4 it got my Dissatisfaction literally dropped it knowing already it will suck the mc is annoying af plot is absolute garbage
I don't think the plot is garbage because it's basically the same as Mirai Nikki and almost everyone loved that anime.
@@markbrix9385 Idk maybe it's just the anime then the way they pace everything seems off putting maybe n the manga this anime story is good but for now it's garbage unlike mirai nikki was well written
Holy shit how did i watch 12 eps of this i acutally got so mad after watching ep 12 Mirai is easily the worst main char i have seen in years
If my friend didn’t tell that death note creators made this, I wouldn’t have watched the first 2 episode.
I loved it. Bandmaid is fantastic always. I got a crazy JoJo style fight at the carnival. Loved Hajime and his arc. I thought the main protags were the perfect cute normal couple. I love how they open the flower shop together. I love professor yoneda and how he marks on so many important controversial topics. And thw ending while a bit literally deus ex machina was fascinating, bold, and unexpected. I was on the edge of my seat. It's possible there could have been more buildup, more setting the scene for things but honestly loved it the way it was. I was sad to find how there were so many shitty reviews on it. And yeah... Humanity would do effed up shit with red arrows. Duh. So idk why that scene hurts so much to imagine. Baseball diamond scene was awesome. Oh and by the way. Kira was in the right. He was egotistical however which is why he failed. L the detective was never really interested in justice. L only ever showed up to the most difficult unsolved cases. Kira was such a case. The entire kira case was just L's magnum opus. And near and mello are by far the worst characters in the story. The way they wrap that up was lame... To say the least.
My proof? Is Code Geass. To an extent Lelouch is the same person as Light Yagame. However Lelouch has the maturity and willpower to achieve his ends although he too has his cowardly moments. Lelouch succeeds in destroying the current world and crearing a new one whwre as kira fails half way through. If Kira literally had never killed the deathrow inmate on live television and spread out his killings sooner... Followed a logical path; he probably would've kept his control. It was ego that ended him; but the objective? The cause? Was to change a rotten world initially. I actually have more issues with Death Note then I did Platinum End. I was never disappointed with Platinum End; even if it was a bit slow at a moment or two.
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its like Harry Potter. JK Rowling wrote a great book series. But like..that doesnt mean she's gonna write good things after (look at the casual vacancy or the fantastic beasts movies)
The fact that you talked about oku and Gantz in this video makes it amazing, haven’t heard anyone talk about it in a while
episode 14 was fire tho🔥
"this anime deals with everything, but it deals with everything in the same way that a 13 year old deals with things"
Platinum End dealing with gay people: "Ok so there's this gay antagonist, and he''s kind a creep, and he gets the love arrow used on him to make him fall in love with a woman, and he dies, controlled by that love arrow, protecting that woman that he's mind controlled to love, by *melting away because he gets infected with a flesh-eating virus during a fight*. And as he dies, he turns to the woman and tells her that he's so happy that he can protect her."
My man really made a gay character only to turn him straight with mind control, and have NONE of the other characters care or comment on how his feelings were completely stepped on.
You can have gay antagonists. You can have gay peopl emeet tragic ends. But like, you can totally write "a tragic end" and make it lame as shit
Finaly someone who aknowledges platinum end as the trash it is
The Curse of Thinking Too Hard About It.
This isn't an anime, it's a PowerPoint presentation with poorly written dialogue and uninspired storytelling
I don’t think you paid attention to Mirai at all.
“Whenever faced with the choice of taking a life or losing his own, Mirai always chooses the latter.”
No? He has always fought his own way. With the red to capture his opponents. Or he’ll fly in circles for an entire day to buy time. He’s always fighting.
“Mirai doesn’t kill because of some deep seeded moral compass, but because he doesn’t think his life is worth more than another’s”
We literally got a whole flashback learning from his parents how horrible killing is and he holds onto that as strongly as Batman. He also refuses to take someone else’s life because then he won’t be happy. He will selfishly prioritizing his own happiness over everyone else’s, even the worlds, to do things his way.
I simply couldn't believe that this was created AFTER the Death Note or Bakuman...
If this was their first popular work, I could easily understand how it led to Death Note... but the other way around?
i really liked the anime’s opening and ending, nothing else lol
Everybody remember ! Tsugumi Ohba also wrote BAKUMAN
And BAKUMAN is 🔥
Don't think of him as a one time wonder just because you thought this is his next work after DEATH NOTE
SUPPORT HIS GENIUS AND PROBABLY WE WOULD GET MORE
Hey Akezura!
I really enjoyed the manga - but I can totally see your points, especially that this show wants too much. I think this is the biggest issue that I have with it as well. The topic of suicide, suicide prevention, existentialism, the power of social media, the hype of superheroes...these are just a few. I think less would be more in that case.
In case of characters, I would have wished that there would be more three-dimensional characters, all having complex reasons for being god. Maybe a little bit like Fate Zero, where everyone had a relatable reason for winning the holy grail. That would have increased the complexity of the show if you ask me.
Other than that, I rushed through the first 8 volumes because it was so suspenseful! Like I said: I enjoyed the show, but I the points that you've raised! :)
Bruh am I the only one who actually thought this show was kinda good?😭😂 shii had me on the edge of my seat & thinking hard asf. & the lines HIT sometimes, thought the writers were writing they ass off but that’s just me.
Couldn’t have said it better - great video
I’m loving the series I feel like Mirai is true to his character all the way through his cool moments remind me similarly to Yu from the boxer. True the plot n characters could’ve gone something even beyond death note if done right so in a sense I see the lazy writing but still appreciate it for what it is in the end
Read the manga. That ending is * chef kiss*, terrible. hahahaha
That ending was at least different but wasn't a good ending anyway
I legit looked up platinum mid and got this video, the only time I get a video I want lol
The ending of this anime will change your opinion on the show trust me
Agree I hate plantanuim end before ep 15 now it getting good
Nope. In fact it made it so much worse.
The anime was terrible for its first half, began picking up in the second, and then crashed and burned in the final.
@@MrJoeyWheeler the story didn't matter this whole show is just about life and suicide
"each character molded to nothing more than a background NPC" ☠️💀☠️
To be honest...
I love Platinum End. I have only watched like 3 episodes of the Anime and then read the Manga. I really liked the Manga, the Characters, the development of Mirai and also the view of god by many characters, especiall Yoneda is great, and I would even call Yoneda a great antagonist and better than Kanade, even tho I wished his reveal as the last god candidate wasnt like that, because we didnt know him.
Overall I have to say I really love it. I love the peaks, the art, the antagonist, view on god and also dont think the ending is that bad.
I have it at around my number 6 animanga !
I definitely think Yobeda is better than Kanade, but to just come out of nowhere halfway kneecaps his development, and frankly I found his ideology just vacuous. I wish they let him get closer to the truth to at least make his motivations more call clear.
@@Akezura yea i also dont like the fact he came out of no where. If we would have seen him since the beginning in like some newspaper or in the telvision just for teasing him that woild have been so much better. To be honest I love every part of his Ideology and at the end when everyone gets killedand Yonedas glasses drop to the ground he said something like he now knows it. In my interpretation it is that he really knows it but they wont tell us because it will mostly likely not be true
I just watched eps 14 and you are so wrong
The greatest thing the anime gave to us was the ending, Kofuku-ron is amazing
I think its ok, I had an open mind coming into platinum end, I dislike the main character on the individual level otherwise it's good I would give it a 7
Nah too high, it's so trash that it's not even good at being bad.
I really liked it , the second half of the show is way stronger imo as I almost dropped out with the extended metroman plot, and a couple of my friends stopped completely.
I wish I watched this before I finished platinum end
I regret ever watching it
Edg, Edge n Edgy! Lmao! 😂 I will give the creators credit that they still make amazing works of art! I do want to own a few volumes of the manga.
Can you talk about Kaitou Joker?
Takeshi Obata should return to his roots and team up with Yumi Hotta again for more baduk manga!
“The great isekai in the sky” - stolen
10:46 True that. 💯
I'm only about 4 episodes in and I like it but I sort of agree. I was expecting this to be one of the best anime to come out this year but I've been unfortunately disappointed so far with the story being a little above average and all of the characters being boring.
The mc was kinda boring only muraida San was looking like the real mc
It’s just literally a boring, elementary version of Future Diary…
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all these comments are so well said, taking the words right out my mouth. the one thing that i haven't seen anyone mention is; why is Kanade white? i mean this half as a joke, but he's so jarringly different from the manga, i almost didn't recognize him.
It took a lot of similar elements from death note but they just weren't compelling and I didn't care about the rules because it wasn't as simple as life and death the way death note was. They thought they could make the arrow stuff interesting.
I think this show would have been more tolerable if Nanato was the protagonist, He was a more interesting character and actually had balls.
Yeah… I already know that. There was that time Fallout 76 was made.
I didn't finish the whole series I just can't get in to it
A lot of people call Platinum End Takeshi Obata and Tsugumi Ohba's failure but I honestly gotta blame Tsugumi Ohba here. Takeshi Obata did the best he could with what he had.
I think the art of the manga itself looks fantastic but it's hard to appreciate it when the story sucks so bad.
When Platinum End first released, I wanted to actually go out and buy the first volume just because of how cool it looked despite not liking the story at all. I was just hoping things would eventually get better as the series went on.
IT IS NOT TRASH BRO IT'S YOUR MIND🙃😆
Personally, I like Platinum end. You don't like it.. I get it. I will say.. death note broke rules and shouldn't be as popular as it was. With this one, there was a different message. I think the bigger message was... suicide be bad, maybe we should do something about it. But the main character lived happily, that's something.
Finally someone with "sense"🙄 (hinting name of op theme)
00:55 so he has more in common with Harry Potter than any other Magic School anime
I'm not gonna cap platinum end was trash had a good start but then it just made a wrong turn out of nowhere and went downhill from there
[[[[spoiler!!]]]] the ending it's literally the meme of people disappearing
Yeah I know how are you feeling, the manga literally explained nothing and there were many unnecessary characters, many questions were left unanswered. It's just bad, and hey Tsugumi Ohba is also a human, he obviously makes mistakes sometimes, just this time the mistake was so huge! Takeshi Ohbata's artwork was so good though.
Felt like an ingot of poop covered in fool's gold to make people think that it actually had a deep meaning and was good.
It just got worse with each episode
The anime is like the meaning of life in one anime