Which METALLICA TAB Book is the WORST? (and which is BEST?)
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- -Which METALLICA TAB Book is the WORST? (and which is BEST?)
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Bad tab books/sheets were probably the thing that turned off so many learner guitar players back in the day. Who knows what talent we may have lost because of it.
Part of the fun of playing is figuring out the songs for yourself. As long as the books are close you should be able to tell.
@@sole__doubtI disagree, when you are a beginner you want to know how it's played the real way, 99% of the time the real way of playing a riff is the most efficient and effortless way of doing it but as a beginner you don't know that.
When you are an intermediate guitarist figuring things out could be fun for some
@@sole__doubtyea I was gonna say that, I started electric last year and most of the things I’ve learned was by ear. A problem with my generation is wanting to look up every tab and every song instead of putting in ear training, plus some of us get distracted and spend too much time from video to video
none, someone who is talented and commited to guitar wont be deterred by a bad tab book
For the longest time I thought official tab books were the best way to learn songs correctly, and I've spent years hunting for tab books I had in the 80s. This series has taught me how silly that is. They do look nice in the guitar-bookshelf, but I'll go to songsterrrrrrrrr if I want to actually learn a song.
Just... make sure the songsterrr tab is right lmao. There's been a couple times when I've gone to songsterr to learn a riff only to find out that it was completely wrong haha.
Songster is good to learn the song structure. After it, you should use your eyes and ears, watch a couple of live concerts , try to find isolated guitars etc
I didnt' know a lot of those things were mistakes when I was a kid, but the one thing that really bugged me was not transcribing Kirk's atmospheric part during the chorus of Sad But True.
I'm going to be in the minority and defend the transcribers. Back then there was no TH-cam, no isolated tracks, no digital speed control, etc. Videos on MTV were no help in seeing how a guitarist was playing, not that you would see Metallica on there anyway. These guys commisioned to do the whole album books might not have been metal guitarist and were given a short deadline to get it done to have the book out. Yes, it was frustrating but it was all we had. I'm not defending the Pornograffitti book, though. That is a mess. Sending the tab to an artist for approval would have done no good because most of them couldn't read tab to know if it was correct or not. I do know that over the years Andy Aledort revised many of his 80s GFTPM tabs to be more accurate for Guitar World, Satch Boogie and Little Guitars being 2 examples. That might make an interesting video comparing the improvements.
I mention in almost every Bad Tab video that we’re lucky today to have our tech and that they didn’t have it back then. Great points.
@@TheArtofGuitar If people want to see some horrific tab they should check out issues of GFTPM in their first year. There is also a book Heavy Metal Guitar (Volume 1) by Cherry Lane that has tabs that are laughable. Some of it isn't even close. The original Alfred Led Zeppelin books are almost indecipherable but they have since revised them. Alfred tab books usually are pretty bad though.
I've never seen anyone complain about the transcribers themselves, that would be a really shitty thing to do really.
Everyone just points out that the tab books are wrong, which is still true.
I always used to assume the people working on the tab books DID have isolated tracks. I mean, they DID have isolated tracks back then (that's generally how they were recorded). Obviously whether they were given them to work worth is a different matter but it was possible to do so. I've kinda went to assuming they didn't have them since no one in these kind of videos mentions it, but I can't really think of a good reasn why not outside of "no one cared enough".
we need more sanctus videos!!!
I just find in hindsight when i got tab books in the 90s and 2000s....it never ever occurred to me tab books could make mistakes lol, though granted i did notice when they would miss stuff out
NICE! Watching on my train ride home on Sydney Australia 🦘
The "Fight Fire with Fire" Intro -arranged for one guitar- is really played by James on the Ride the Lightning Tour on the early Shows. As a Metallica die hard Fan I just found out about it a few years ago. There is at least one Live Bootleg where you hear James play it on his Electric Gtr with a clean tone!
One of the worst is Hells Bells I learned that by ear then I got the TAB in Guitar mag & it was all in open chords arpeggiated ??? , I went w/my version then years later they had a Angus interview & they showed him the TAB to Hells Bells & he said thats probably the correct way to play it but heres how we play it & he did it excatly like I learned it by ear. lol damn you Cherrylane
I had a GFTPM with You Shook Me All Night Long in it and it was the same thing. The intro was completely wrong! It was years later when I discovered the correct and WAY easier way to play it.
Hal Leonard books seemed to be better than the others in my experience. Although I found errors in them too they’re usually more subtle.
I've got the newer version of the Master of Puppets tab book like Mikes. But in the original version of the book, that I used to own, it has an error in the actual title song. At the chorus where the vocal line says "Master, Master" E5 E5, F5 F5, it has the second chord as a B5 "Master, Master" with E5 E5, B5 B5 being played.
There was also a stuff up in Orion, in the book I currently have, where near the beginning of the song where Cliff does his first bass run, at bars 57 to bar 72, it has it transcribed for the guitar instead of the for the bass.
I've also seen 2 versions of the Kill 'Em All Book where one version has Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth) transcribed for the guitar and the other, that is correct, has it transcribed for bass. I own with the bass version where a good friend has the version where it was transcribed for the guitar.
And what about the Ride The Lightning tab book. Fade to Black's chorus has a lot of major chords being played where they should just be power chords like the errors that the Master of Puppets book has.
Those damn tab books set me guitar playing back for years. Being a KISS fan I should have realized that most songs were easier than i expected.
Ha! Same i started playing guitar after seeing KISS in '96 and looking at tab books their songs seemed real hard with these big chord shapes n shit so i started listening to metallica and started playing their stuff cause i found it easier!
I watched James up close at the concert last month and the Blackened main riff transcription is actually how he played it and then asked him about it at a meet and greet and he said he uses a different tuning and string gauge.
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It's so impressive to me how Mike knows how to match his tone to the studio version's tone SO WELL every time.
Reload, Garage inc, st anger, death, hardwired and 72 all have books too - would love to see the series continue
I have all the Metallca songbooks from Kill' em All to the Black Album, bought all of them back in the 90s. I think if you want the best Metallica tabs, Julien Menard's channel is the best place.
I still have ride the lightening too. Fade to black has that cluttered 2 guitar parts on one staff for the part that leads into and plays alongside the outro solo as well. But it also has a time signature chord chart along with it and never says what chords they are. The other thing fade to black has in the book is major chords instead of just power chords for the heavy sections between and after the verses.
The chromatic thing in the Unforgiven is how I have been playing it for a long time... because I owned that tab book...
I learned The Thing That Should Not Be in drop D and now I absolutely can not unlearn it. And to be honest, it's easier to play that way.
Same except the chorus riff sounds so much better when you play it in the correct tuning
I had the first 5 albums tablature books. Back then i would only use them as a guide. The rest was by ear. But, certain sections of the songs I just couldn't get down and the books made things so much more complicated back then.
I love this series, I remember trying to teach myself to play from these books back in the 90s. It never occurred to me that the books were wrong.
Now my learning process is find a half-decent online tab to get a rough baseline, closely listen to the original to identify the iffy areas, the watch live footage (so easy these days) and YT covers.
That said I barely play any Metallica these days...if we're talking big 4 riffs, then Megadeth wins every time for me
Starting to play back in '73, there was no tab, we had to learn it all by ear, trial and error. This developed the ear.
When I looked at my first few tabs and saw they were all wrong, I had to keep using the old ears. I just totally wrote tab off.
Fun to watch these critiques of tabs. Shameful that companies ripped young music students off and sent them down the wrong path.
I remember being puzzled about quite a number of the ones you mention here back in the day. Especially Blackened was a bit frustrating and I was so clueless about what was really going on. x-2-x-2-x-2 ... As if the main riff of such a banger wouldn't use the open low E string. 😅 It taught me that it's always worth verifying a tab by using your own ears.
the tuning that should not be !!!!
Could you do an interview with one of the old school guys that tabbed one of these books and learn about the process they had, time limits, constraints, methods, and so on? Would be fun to hear from the source - you know, their perspective on how it all went down.
I interviewed the king of transcribing. th-cam.com/video/s_MX6YffBBA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SiO7GOeoH9-KYlXn
I appreciate this video. And I love the V behind you. I love V’s…🤘🏽
I love the Donnie Darko sticker. I watched the movie yesterday
As much as I love the bad tab series, the fact you’re doing vids on your guitars makes me nerd out big time 🤓
I just realised, that I take these books as holy, at least I didn´t learn Master of Puppets like in the books, but One and Enter Sandman. I started playing guitar in 2019, but got the books from my guitar teacher
Because so much of the feel is truly in the hands I actually made that and justice book sound the way it supposed to.
Even though so much of that tab book is wrong when I play it sounds just fine 😅
I remember being so confused by that Jump in the Fire tab, not yet having the experience to know that "official" tabs doesn't mean complete accuracy.
Love this!! Have been looking forward to it. That blackened riff as per the book sounds so bad haha. Congrats on 898k Subscribers! 🤘🔥
Kill Em All is pretty accurate…most riffs sound pretty close for sure. Also learned a lot from Load(s) tab book. Death Magnetic tab book was pretty solid as well. Most riffs seemed accurate 🤷🏻♂️
Mind blown about Ronnie! Love that riff
I was just starting to play and a friend had the Puppets book, possible it made me better doing the acrobatics for TTTSNB! By the time the Black album was out, I was already learning most things by ear and would check tab when I was confused by something.
Now, you just need to look up how to play songs on youtube, ezpz!
I love seeing my TH-cam notifications and seeing a bad tab video
Legendary T-shirt…amazing film.
No wonder Kill Em All is the only one I didnt give away.
I absolutely agree with Blackened and TLITD. I was struggling to learn it and then it was all wrong😂😂😂
I had a guitar teacher that would say, "the authors were drunk" when talking about bad tab books... KILL 'EM ALL is best album. Fun video, Mike!
I had all 5 books too. Blackened opening riff threw me off so much. I assumed since it was in the book it had to be correct.
I’m curious what you think of the epic middle section of Blitzkrieg. The tab book really threw me off on how to play it.
Whenever you go through the bad tab books, I can really feel the, "transcriber who doesn't like metal very much trying to rush through the job as fast as possible because he's probably got a week to get this done" that probably explains so much about these books. Beginners never know what a bunch of half-assed cash grabs these books probably were in most cases, they were one merchandising step up from t-shirts. At no point would any of it get fact-checked by Kirk Hammett or anybody like that. The kid who buys it has no clue, though.
Fire t-shirt btw!
Is that the SL3X DX? I can't find one in that color anywhere. I remember in an older vid of yours how that particular model of yours is great. Could you remind me of the vid where you spoke about that??
Hiii love the videos I think The thing that’s should not be is in c# I think Kirk says it in a interview
I learned guitar of the riff by riff book along with the cliff em all video and the we sold our souls for rock and roll book. So I was wondering how do those compare?
And the reason I think it may be on purpose is because if you look from 1985 all the way up to the 2000s those same kinds of mistakes are made over and over and over again I have everything from Incubus to Sublime to Nirvana Alice in Chains and there are mistakes everywhere
The AJFA tab book was the first Metallica book I had. I was convinced I was a hopeless guitar player because I couldn't get any of it to sound right. Turns out I am a hopeless guitar player, but at least now my Metallica covers sound a bit better.
Another awesome video. I'm still waiting for you to do a video on the techniques of Linkin Park and Trivium. At lease their both modern bands in terms of music output. Why focus on a band that's over 40 yrs into their career. Please Mike. I know you can do those videos because there's tons of videos of people covering both artists on TH-cam.
The Justice and Puppets books taught me guitar.
Explains a lot 😄
No mention of the OPEN E MAYOR Chords on Harvester of Sorrow's main riff?
I would be interested in what the release dates are for these books. As in curious were released in the same order as you ranked them 🤔
Great shirt
When even the official tab books are wrong, how do you know how to play it the right way with confidence?
Using your ears, old footage from live shows, DVDs etc
@@MaidanRustleback in the day, you didn't even have that...mibbe just a recording you managed to grab off the radio.
Nice
These books shat on my musical parade so many times! I would’ve burned them, but they were so f’n expensive!
cool shirt, man
Ronnie is my favorite song on that album! Now have a better way to play!
So weird seeing james playing a telecaster
Absolutely no surprises, but I don't have Kill 'Em All so I couldn't judge that one.
You know what about the same age and I've gone through a lot of these table books but somewhere in my mind about 18 years ago it dawned on me that these bands might specifically want them to not write these exact because when we were young a lot of these bands didn't want people to know how to play their songs and I just feel like Metallica is one of those bands that would have purposely told them to do it slightly different
I have the chance of buying those Metallica full band scores published by Japan music publishers, they are quite accurate indeed 😊👍
9:48 check out the tab for Good God by Korn
Hi Mike, can you give an update on that jackson? Did you changed to schaller and changed the pickups? Thx!
You should take the Load book and compare it to a Japanese version on it.
Quick question did you ever learn Tell No Tales by TNT? Curious how you would play that song!
i feel like you should make more videos about load era metallica load, reload and the originals from s&m are so unique compared to the rest of Metallica and i feel like they don't get enough love
LOL! I have been playing The Thing That Should Not Be wrong (drop D) for decades now, and never knew it was wrong! I have all these books, and never really noticed that they were wrong, although I did notice that some of the parts were really hard to pull off (some of the ones you highlighted). Do you have recommendations for GOOD Metallica tabs?
Ughh the MOP book... go over the solo where Kirk harmonizes in "The Thing That Should Not Be", it's so wrong and I learned it that way when I was younger. It made me doubt life because i knew it was wrong deep inside.
I'm surprised you haven't put any EMG's in the Donnie Darko Explorer.
Bro, I'm a shitty guitar player today because of all these books!!! They drove me nuts with these extra hard arrangements. 😆
18:35 this is not a mistake in notes, this is a mistake of string, the 8 clearly goes on the D string and they copied it wrong from the transcription notes.
There are dozens of books with this kind of mistakes.......Malmsteen's Trilogy book also has this issue of wrong strings (in some cases the standard note is correct, and the string in the tab is wrong, sometimes the standard note is wrong and the tab is correct, and sometimes BOTH are wrong)
So i keep hearing different teachers both on TH-cam and in person say not to worry about tabs. That they should be a last resort after ear training or by watching live videos of the artist etc...in the beginning atleast. True or no?
Have you tried the 72 Seasons one, yet?
Worst tab book best album.
Holy sh1t! The part at 14:00 I learned from the guitar mag 30+ years ago, and still played it this way! 😂
I had no idea that was wrong!
And honestly, the wrong was still aounds right to me. 😂
had the AJF Metallica Tab book as a kid and I knew it was all fucked up even then.
I think the worst part is that these are from the 80s and 90s when you couldn't cross reference on the internet or something
Geussing load is best
Early folk
I played Blackened wrong for 20 years thanks to that book.
Why aren't tab books spiral bound, so you can leave the pages open while you play?
I got the reload book when i started to Play guitar.. it got me a little confused and angry at times 😂
Yeah they were a double edged sword without them I wouldn't have kept playing but they made me think I sucked more than I actually did
KILL EM ALL!, I’m surprised kill em all is one of their best lol. They really mess you up with Metallica tabs.
I think the guys doin these tab books sometimes do a thing that i tend to do at times and hear a riff in a higher or lower octave then it actually is in. Shit maybe i got it from using these books! Lol
Did reload not have a book?
Songsterr has Dyers Eve the wrong way then!
bro get the 72 seasons tab book and see if that one is good or bad
Dread to think how many hours of pain and frustration books like these caused many guitar students.
Call of Ktulu’s really bad in the RTL tab book.
where's the death magnetic book? ;)
The tab books were wrong on purpose. It avoided copyright lawsuits from the bands. Got you close-ish enough to know it was wrong and then go from there.
Bad tab books remind me of when a foreign language is translated into English…it’s mostly wrong but you can kinda make it out🫤
I've tried to tell people that tabs are just one person's translating by ear. The band's guitarists never share tab. You or I could write tab and claim it's perfect. But no.... weak minds believe magazines, internet, and whatever media tells them....and they'll argue it.
The hardest album has the worst tab books, coincidentally
You didn't show the right way to play fight fire with fire intro
Bad tabs no wonder why I’m a shitty Guitarist
After The Black Album Nothing Else Matters