Studio Executives Roundtable: Netflix, Warner Bros., Universal, Paramount, Disney, Amazon | Close Up
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.พ. 2020
- Scott Stuber (Netflix), Toby Emmerich (Warner Bros), Donna Langley (Universal), Jim Gianopulos (Paramount), Alan Horn (Disney), Tom Rothman (Sony), and Jennifer Salke (Amazon) join Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter for this season's FULL, uncensored Studio Executives Roundtable.
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The power in this room can remotely charge my iPhone
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N here's your 🏆 for best comment 😂
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so sweetly said
@aljanat5 shut the fuck up virgin
The amount of times this conversation felt like an amicable peace talk between crime lords is absolutely fascinating, if only just for the analogous power dynamics at play here.
Exactly, you know the studios have no respect for Netflix and Amazon. The Irishmen is a good example, all the studios passed because they weren't going to spend 200 million and see no return. To Netflix, they won't make money from the movie but they need content and shows creators that are players in the movie industry.
why are you the world's best archer right now
Eh wrong... Female Crime Lords don't exist....
@@kingvil3212 uhhmmmm no.... they do exist.... just as not as much as men .... Griselda Blanco(Columbian Drug lord), Enedina Arellano Felix(Mexican drug lord), Sandra Avila Beltran(Mexican drug lord) are some examples.....
With Tobi emmerich being joker
This is an insane roundtable. That poor guy who had to schedule this.
Righttt. You already know they all busy asf with their companies
Totally, probably took a few months to get this on the books
Was pretty easy to schedule actually, they met between the Owl woreship and dinner at the annual Illuminati camp
Probably booked them since 10 years ago
@@duderRechthat LMFAOOOO
This could have been a $250 Masterclass lesson video.
And instead it was for free.
ssssshhhhhhhhhh
Disney: "If Mulan doesn't play in China, we're in big trouble!"
Corona: "Nice movie release you got planned there. Would be a shame if anything happened to it..."
Not really, they sometimes spoke really generically
Watching a poker game without the cards and chips
... And each with a value of billions
@@Ascoundrel haha not everyone is a CEO. Its easy for you to type it on your phone in your dark room
Perfect
@@Ascoundrel Why are they running studios while you're commenting on TH-cam?
@@Ascoundrel what did they do wrong i want to know
I would be SO intimidated as a journalist in this room asking these people questions. These 7 people are responsible for practically all of our television and movie content. That's crazy.
His job isn't dependant on their comfort.
This is very educational. Much better than people speculating. Here it is, from the industry's mouth.
To bad no one of color.
most of their content is rehashed reboots these people only care about the dollar and THEIR SHAREHOLDERS .
Raquel Colon Donna Langley is Egyptian, if you think that’s being colored...but even so that doesn’t matter, their brains do not their skin
Consider: This went live about a month before the pandemic, which completely upended the theatrical business. I'd love to see these seven brought back two years later to see how they feel now.
Yess! I was thinking the same thing!! Everything is completely different now
I was thinking the very same thing. When Alan talked about the consumer sitting in the movie theatre next to someone on their phone and someone with the flu, and that affecting their decision making, I was like, did this guy know what was about to happen?
@@user-ef5id9km3p hmm.. interesting take.. 🤔
yeah this is exactly what i was thinking.
Especially now after the strikes
I feel like these people prepared for this better than most presidential candidates in debates lol
What does that tell you. . .
@@musafirioliver that even the most incompetent people can run for/become President :(
This comment aged like fine wine
I think it tells you that running for the President is a popularity contest. Popularity above all else.
Higher stakes
I would kill for a round table with the folks from A24, Neon, Anna Purna, Magnolia, Searchlight and any other smaller distributors
A24 for sure. They have some of the best films.
Agreed.
Yes that would be a fantastic counterpoint to this, but this information seems harder to find. Indie studios seem to have more interviews about their process and what they look for in a project. The indies seem a bit more open, whereas everything with netflix and disney and marvel its all secrets and scary.
Just realized I've never seen/heard an interview with any A24 executive. I'd love to hear how they pick projects to support.
@thehollywoodreporter make this happen
The fact that you can have a discussion like this for free on TH-cam is incredible to me. The mere brain power in that room lol.
lol?
Commander Keen THANK YOU
Commander Keen the brain power is in keeping their job. You would be eaten alive.
Commander Keen According to a number of studies, average IQ is going down and has been going down for a number of years. So the mediocre is now genius. This and our tech overlords who do none of the programming for their products are “the leaders of the future.” We’re definitely fucked.
@Commander Keen our next great movie producer overlord over here! Someone please have this genius replace Alan Horne or Bob Iger. It'll be so easy for them.
Many people don't know that Alan Horn (Disney) led Warner Bros. from
1999 to 2012 when he was forced to retire. He gave so many greatest hits from
WB like Harry Potter movies and Nolan's Dark Knight trilogies. He was
then approached by Disney on 2013 and look where he took Disney to. They
bought Fox, Lucas films and Pixar and hugely expanded Marvel franchise.
WB is bought by AT&T.
AT & T?
WB went from those Dark Night and Harry Potter classics to this awful Batfleck and Fantastic Beasts mess.
Makes more sense today... no Alan Horn...and see what a mess Disney has become...!!
Toby's face when they praise Snyder is priceless😂😂😂😂😂
Min 52 😂❤
These are not people who are used to being interrupted.
Good point.
Lol
Especially when talking to someone on a couch.
Noone is interrupting either. Everyone is listening and only speaks on turns.
That must be why the Hobbit Mr Bean is not doing this interview... 😎
What a weird and interesting conversion. They seem very charismatic but in a very calculating way. Actors usually hide their distaste really well but these executives take it to another level. The atmosphere, body language and power suits...
Toby Emmerich is the biggest bitch at this table. Cant wait for WB to boot this douche.
They are disconnected with Reality,
Till I Collapse lmaooo most of these big studios are going to be eaten up by Disney and Warner bros.
These people influence us and they know it.
Christina Cope They also are the reason there aren’t many diverse films.
am i the only one who thinks that these executives aestethically perfectly represent their companies?
Disney: The self assured old man who knows his worth but is still kinda funny looking and goofy
Warner Brothers: A little more adult than the others trying to suck up to the interviewer by nodding at everything and a little bit insecure of Disney
Universal: The grand old lady classy and knows her worth the queen of the table
Netflix: The new kid in class doing better than most people at the table and is sure of his abilities but still trying to be respectful of everyone
Sony: Trying to be really important while still kissing ass and being kind of nervous
Paramount: The old sleezeball on his way out clinging to Netflix for their partnership
Amazon: The youngest - just sitting there Barely in the conversation with the adults
Nice one
only problem is that by the sound of it most of them were running or very close to the top of each others company's at some point
With these character archetypes you mentioned, this could be its a movie/show in its own right.
Perhaps distributed by A24 to discourage favoritism and directed by the Safdie Bros starring
Tom Hanks as Disney
Joaquin Phoenix as WB
Meryl Streep as Universal
Henry Cavill as Netflix
Adam Sandler as Sony
John Goodman as Paramount
and featuring "Any Unknown but Rising Actress" as Amazon Prime
E X E C U T I V E
*coming soon to a theater or streaming platform near you*
Everyone is sleeping on Amazon. They may be the youngest but they are a beast!
@@matt09ward You move around a lot in that industry. Film's not an easy business to run, so it usually takes a film person to run a film company, so they have a small pool to choose from.
Disney: "If Mulan doesn't play in China, we're in big trouble!"
Corona: "Nice movie release you got planned there. Would be a shame if anything happened to it..."
ThisIsTheRoad haha! Mulan didn’t age well 5 months after this was released.
Well, now they have a problem 🤣
Ironically it played in theaters in China and went straight to home release in America
I laughed at that too! hahaha
i read it in Michael Palin's italian mob voice
Not the roundtable that we asked for but one that we needed lol
Yeah, the conversation of only white people at the table.
@@hanssolos3699 the way we like it
@@hanssolos3699 what
4 Chairmans, 1 CEO, 1 Co-Chair, and one Head.
These guys create 95% of the stuff you see in theaters.
Any one of them can snap a finger and make you famous and destroy your career.
Good to have them owe you a favor.
Arguably Ranked by Power.
1.) Alan Horn (Disney) , Jim Gianopulos (Paramount)
( These two are in their own class. Cause they have Boss of Bosses.
Except Alan Horn shares his position with another person.
2.) Toby Emmerich (Warner Bros)
3.) Jennifer Salke (Amazon) < ---- Head of Amazon Films, Arguably very powerful woman.
4.) Scott Stuber (Netflix)
5.) Donna Langley (Universal) < ---- Also very powerful. She shares her position with another male counter-part
6.) Tom Rothman (Sony)
By math in total, they have generated 342 Billion Dollars in their career for their respective company.
Responsible for 362 directors careers and 3859 Actors careers and 318200+ Jobs.
Would have a ranked third in WORLD GDP right under China. If all their companies and assets merged.
It's weird considering their combined net worth is only half a billion.
Cool info thanks for your time
women aren't remarkable
@ Powerful women are
@raserianfald yeah, I am in proccess of sharpening and studying my blade right now, how could you tell?
Expect upload within a month.
If theres anyone you want to be friends with ITS THESE GUYS... fuck actors and directors. These are the guys
Tobby's face when they mentioned Zack Snyder 😂😂😂
Min?
Min. 52 🎉
Hollywood Reporter can you do more studio executive's roundtable? I was absolutely captivated to learn from these titans of industry. And of course, Donna is looking as radiant as ever.
Irv?
Alan Horn after the interview: “Listen up everyone, Disney wants to buy all your studios, name your price.”
Since WB is now part of AT&T, I think it will go the other way.
Dinesh Rashid They can buy their own arses
Dinesh Rashid They can buy themselves
At&t net worth = around 200 billion dollars
Disney net worth = around 120 billion dollars
Amazon net worth = around 160 billion dollars
Comcast (Universal) net worth = around 160 billion dollars
Viacom (Paramount) net worth = around 12 billion dollars
Sony net worth = around 70 billion dollars
Netflix net worth = around 170 billion dollars
So Disney really isn't top dog in terms of the whole corporation, but it has the largest market share in the movie industry.
AT&T and Comcast are bigger than Disney))
The amount of money at that table right now 😭😭😭😭
Damn, I can't believe this video is on here for free. Top university film schools like USC would kill for this line up.
Exactly
I will have to agree. Most people do not understand that these people are in a whole different stratosphere. They hire the actors and filmmakers. They run the industry. They are in the business of making money. They are explaining some not all of the business decisions and the surface operation issues they deal with. They are not friends with actors, filmmakers and personnel. Every person should understand the business of Hollywood.
Netflix: *sips tea*
Good or Bad my viewers still watch it.
Great interviewer, great questions, no interruptions, the interviewer allowed everyone to speak in full and asked a lot of insightful questions. The question about Netflix’s success metrics, for example, was great. Such a great question and insight only received from someone like a studio exec. Each exec got their own questions, and questions for the whole group.
Yeah, though I think THR deliberately did't get Galloway to do this one 'cause at least a couple of the execs would've finished him off there and then.
Without looking... what color are Aang's shoes? 🩰
(No cheating!) 👀
@@varunbhakay6804 LMAO
One of the most interesting opinions this table seems to share (Which I wasn't expecting them to admit) is the distinction between quality and marketability. They all acknowledge that a good movie is not necessarily profitable on the big screen, and they admit that they prioritise profit.
Wouldn't u as an executive it about money always about money
Yup.
Yeah same. It's good to know that they know lol
The key point is to make quality films that are profitable and that's the balancing act.
@@danidua100 I would argue that quality is subjective and profitable isn't.
Realistically as an executive the only objective is to make profitable films.
If they happen to be high quality as well that's a nice bonus.
So there isn't really a conversation to be had about balancing "quality" and "profitability:
One could make the case that any film that is profitable is high quality. Logically speaking for a film to be profitable it means a lot of people thought it was high quality, Maybe not by "experts" but that's just someone's opinion.
Even things like Oscars and Emmy's which are supposedly reflective of quality. I would argue that most executives only care about winning those awards to the extent that it helps with branding and marketting which increases revenue going back to profitablity.
Imagine if this got remade in 2040 I think it'll be Alan Horn sitting in a round table alone accompanied with empty chairs
Assuming he’s still alive 😉
Doubtful wb and Netflix is not going anywhere at anytime soon. Now hbo max is getting some heat so yea
Why do you people want the mouse to monopolize everything?
I've watched all the round tables with some world's renowned actors, and i've found this one to be the most intriguing by far. It's not very often we get to hear from the people behind the scenes that make the most important decisions. Excellent content!
the first question is actually kind of brilliant since most people blame studio interference when movies end up being terrible.
Well ofc the executives won't blame themselevs.
What isnt mentioned is when a movie doesnt perform the way they want or expect it, and therefore starts to make changes mid productions, pre-productions or reshoots.
The intention is ofc never to destroy the movie, however the intention is always to earn the most of money.
Very often these "studio interferance" situations is based on the pressure to make sure the investors earn back the money they put into the production.
The truth is that up until the last edit, nobody knows how well a movie will perform. There are too many factors at play.
Right audience? Right time to release? Right stars? Competition towards other movies? Etc etc
MarkFilipAnthony well people have a general idea of how well it will do. Especially if it’s based on an existing IP
@@jamaicanskeleton No they dont, what they have a generall idea about is how well it will do with themselves and among their friends
Also america and europe isnt the only marked out there
MarkFilipAnthony while many factors go into determining a movie’s success, and there are upsets, generally, a range can be determined domestically. It gets harder worldwide, but it isn’t a crapshoot. Films in the MCU or sequels such as frozen 2 or toy story 4 are very likely to do well in all sectors due to their wide appeal and big screen appeal.
@@jamaicanskeleton You're talking about movies that allready has a recognized brand, that's totally different.
The first Frozen movie was expected to be a flop, just as Titanic was. The First few movies in the Mcu, like Iron man was major risk, nobody new if it was going to do well.
Before Toy Story 1 was released nobody expected it to have a major marked, as at the time 2D animation was the norm
The first Pirates movie was expected to be a flop, and the production was even considered to be canclled several times
It wasn't until after the two first Harry Potter movies they understood the world wide appeal the movies had, before that they gambled from movie to movie
etc etc etc
You can't compare a brand with a regular production. Most brand movies that fail are the ones who was expected to do higher than what they did, but compred to other regular productions they're not really failures
Love this interviewer, he listened but also knows when to cut a convo respectfully for time. Way easier to watch than that other guy who looks like he works at Gringotts part time.
"that other guy who looks like he works at Gringotts part-time" 🤣🤣🤣
lol. take notes oprah
Ahaha completely agree with you! This one felt like a really smooth discussion that flowed from point to point. The ones with Gringotts fella are awful, I’m not sure he understands what a round table discussion is
This is so accurate it hurts.
I always thought of him as that gringotts, harry potter character, never thought someone would agree
In the beginning I was empathizing with these guys when they said the movie industry is hard to crack and how "good" movies are not enough anymore.
And then I realised they were multi billion dollar corporates
I want to ask Scott to stop cancelling good shows after 3 seasons.
Spoken like true executives..... Absolutely nobody is tripping up in this table lol
The interviewer had excellent questions. This was so informative
Holy crap this is by far the best moderator of these THR roundtables. Insightful, pointed questions, delivered via a normal personality. Can they get him to do all the roundtables?
Can you please do this again!!! Since Covid, this conversation about theater vs streaming is wildly different. Would love to see how the studios answer these questions now with how much streaming has taken over
And I thought the director and writer roundtables were insane....
Very rare, very different. This was a really cool segment to watch.
@@Ascoundrel get lost
This is probably the best roundtable I have ever watched. So incredibly insightful to hear about the economics, strategics and mechanics behind how films are made and released. Excellent interview.
I'm watching this as a second year film student from a third world country,Botswana, and then i imagined myself in one of those seats, well it is scary but worth thinking about!
Hands down the most intriguing roundtable I’ve seen in a while. Also the questions that were being asked were great!
These interviews with execs are the most important ones. They never get to speak.
And when they do, they give us rehearsed speeches. I got nothing from it but squandered privileges.
It's not they don't get to it's that they don't WANT to.
Imagine being Netflix sitting at that table knowing damn well you single handedly change the game of the movie industry and they hate you for it
i can imagine they are very very fond of netflix & him. because of netflix changing the industry, it opened a brand new market of streaming services. & disney, paramount, etc followed suite after netflix. netflix made them more money than they probably have ever made before the steaming age
This is one of the best and most underrated roundtables, I've seen! Well done, guys! It's a masterclass on movie business!
Most interesting content you´ll find about the cinema industry on TH-cam.
@@Ascoundrel with out them you wouldn't get movies lol
Audacious Scoundrel Wow. Prove your claims or they just stand out as crazy...
Most interesting content you´ll find about the cinema industry on TH-cam.
@@golddlennon7359 @Darth Karmit that's not a great argument and does nothing to defend them
and we _would_ get movies without them, they'd just be made under other bosses (mostly from smaller studios)
“To make a great film you need three things - the script, the script, and the script.” [Alfred Hitchcock]
“To make a great film you need three things - the script, the script, and the script.” - Alfred Hitchcock - Bong Joon Ho
I like how in most every roundtable, it's creators/actors/etc all praising each other and really discussing. But introduce executives and it becomes really tense and slightly combative.
52:29 - the look you make when you realize everyone around the table is praising the guy you’re actively trying to destroy.
Dude from Warner Bros. getting super anxious when they talk about Zack Snyder's success with 300 lol
LOL 😂😂
Exactly 😂💯
Can someone explain please?
@@cosmicsprint Look up the Snyder Cut
@@DeadFreakingPool I see, thanks. But in the end, it seems the Snyder Cut is still being produced by Warner Bros after Toby Emmerich approved it.
Matthew is a better host for the roundtables THR. Have him do main ones instead of the guy who interrupts everyone. And I'm not even exaggerating it's true.
How were none of their phone's blowing up while in that 1 hour meeting? In fact none of their phone's were even out. They are the most important people in their respective companies and they literally took out 1 hour of their time with ZERO distractions. I'm impressed.
Lol Facts. they probably got confiscated before the start of the taping, or their assistants were holding them off camera .
Excuse me, these are professional Executive Leadership. These are not average ordinary people in vice presidential or middle management jobs. You don't just call the CEO of a company with a problem every second of the day. They are filming, and they know the rules because they make the rules.
Alan Horn represents the best years of Warner bro’s the guy practically gave the world lord of the rings Harry Potter and good Nolan pictures amongst castle rock and other things ....he is a titan ....all the more proven with the state warners are in since he was unceremoniously dropped ....
I guess that's why Disney swooped on him.. clever move on their half
Correction Lord of the Rings was New Line cinema and it’s enigmatic founder Robert Shaye who believed in Jackson’s vision thru and thru much like Alan Ladd Jr did back in the day for a young director George Lucas and his small little farm movie set on a desert planet ....
Warner's problems are housemade really. Most of their new DCEU movies are horrible, and when you give creators freedom you'll see awesome stuff - Joker, The Suicide Squad (2021) and probably Batman. HBOmax has incredible content as well.
I didn't think i was gonna watch it all, but it was great.
Exactly, very interesting
Netflix still didn't explain how their definition of success translates to earning money.
It's building the brand. Netflix two years ago was a mixed bag in terms of brand. Now it's the home of movies from Cuaron, Scorsese, the Coen's, Fincher, Baumbach, etc. That's one side of their brand, they are also where you find The Witcher and Stranger Things, and there are so many more sides. Everything they add forms a brand which makes it more attractive.
Something more specific could be how many subscribers they gain or how few the lose around the time of release of one of their movies/series
@@diegovera1213 Of course but they're spending more than they're making off of new subscribers.
It's because they not earning money now, I think it's like another startup company, they just introduce the brand, and after that, they will start making money form advertise or something else.
@ That's my point. I don't think they themselves know. Amazon can at least use it to boost its influence on the same idea as Apple. They just want people to stay on their platforms, make it a one-place for everything.
Netflix doesn't have that.
The power in this room is ASTRONOMICAL
I hope they do another Casting Director Roundtable because the game has also really changed when it comes to their process, who they cast, and inclusivity. I’d 100% watch
I enjoyed this much more than actors round table.
I like it when I can learn something about how to make movies. Actors have a narrower slice of how it gets done, so naturally, unless you really are fascinated by acting, there is less to glean from such an interview.
I was going also say that some actors never stop acting, but it was fairly clear that these decision makers had to watch their words as well.
@@Ascoundrel They are the gatekeepers. Knowing what they think is is very useful for a would-be filmmaker.
@@lonjohnson5161 yes, because you get a sense of what a pitch should include to be succesfull and to actually get the movie made from this people
Audacious Scoundrel the name calling is precious.
Well... these people, at least MOST of these people, are smarter than actors (which isn't hard, granted). That being said, you can be smart and boring. But for someone who's interested in the various issues, that video could only be interesting.
A lot of bullet dodging in this interview. They’re soo good at it
It's amazing to watch this conversation knowing they all are competing against each other.
This roundtable is the most intoxicating hour of content yet. I'm genuinely intrigued by the mechanics and the sheer power of each individual at this table. Fascinating conversation and being moderated VERY well, he's got his big boy pants on for these guests. It's so funny how you can tell that they certainly respect each other and convey their ideas and studios aspirations with poise and articulation but the layers of what they truly think are so apparent. Being cordial but inside their actual thoughts on streaming vs theatrical or Disney's sheer mammoth bite of 40% of all ticket sales up from 26% just one year prior has got them all shook. PLEASE DO THIS AGAIN. AMAZING.
Am I the only one who finds this like the coolest video ever?
My mind was blown watching this lol
I wish they expanded these round tables to more than film. Have like scientists from like NASA, or inventors, or founders.
@@Diana-wk9qv check out the annual Nobel Prize winners discussions, imo piques a similar curiosity
Alan Horn: Well, Disney's gonna buy you all at some point. Nice to know you lot, beforehand.
Sure things jan... With all pg shit sure things with wb having biggest franchises and making billion of dollars not gonna happen us back of at&t
This comment got a chuckle from me. I don't believe Disney can assimilate everything, but it is easy to imagine Mickey Mouse with Borg implants.
1. Sony isn't just movies they sell all the electronic products you see their name on, including playstation and all the game studios under their ownership.
2. WB is backed by AT&T therefore already bought and owned by a powerful entity
3. Netflix is billions in debt, therefore not desirable since anyone who buys them just inherits that debt. Besides they have nothing to offer disney since they already have a streaming service and Netflix content is very opposite of Disneys
4. Amazon is Amazon
5. Paramount is practically owned by Sony
Apple is gonna buy Disney.
@@michaelg4490, how is paramount practically owned by Sony when they merged with CBS just weeks ago?
One of the best roundtables I've ever seen. Please do another one of these now that we're in a Pandemic & OTT has accelerated.
I go back to this roundtable every now and again. Such great insight from each giant in the industry. I'm also afraid to admit that it was almost odd to see each of them respect and admire each other. Because the society of fans have almost made it out to be as if the studios that each represent are at an all out war.
Whenever they get around to it, I would love to see the heads of the streaming services be part of a roundtable
The WB sounds like he knows what they're doing with the Joker but then you remember those are the guys who can't handle DCEU and just cancel or reshoot or rewrite or recast or interfere with everything.
Numbers/ bare bones guy versus a creative guy. IMHO.
They be talking about Snyder? Quick.. change the subject Emmerich - 53:10 lol. Surprised that guy still has a job at WB for doing what he did.
I was wondering if this is the idiot that ruined justice league. Should have made over 1.5 billion and they found a way to throw it down the drain. Probably won't get a superman 2 movie too.
@Franz Styles hey everyone found the Disney plant! How much they paying shills these days?
@Franz Styles Shut the fuck up!
I love the studio executives roundtables. They go from talking about movie budgets, writers, directors, and actors. They also can be shady toward each other too. 😂
this is such a unique angle and perspective that we often miss out on in the discussion of modern filmmaking and media and it’s really really interesting to hear the pure business side of things. All of these people are incredibly intriguing and intelligent and it’s very refreshing to hear them so passionate about making sure that creativity does not get lost in the business decisions. Very very very lovely and informative roundtable with great people. Thank you Hollywood Reporter!
It's interesting to see the dynamic between these people. Some of them are clearly more of a type A personality (Mr. Disney and Mr. Sony I'm looking at you) and this is manifested in them speaking more in the group situation, where as other's are remaining more quiet (Mr. Netflix, Mr. Warner Bros and Miss Amazon I'm looking at you). It's almost like a power game to see who can dominate here among the most dominant.
Wow, there really is some tension here between the "old" studio heads and the new world. This is more exciting than a lot of the studio films.
U can tell they don't like Netflix
@@andim.8788 hopefully Netflix doesn't sink to their level
major other then probably amazon as they kinda run things in the same way
Sony doesn’t seem to like Netflix
The Sony guy strikes me as a really good dude. He probably has frequent flyer miles to Epstine’s island but he just comes off as a solid dude
Benjamin Gentile 😂😂😂
I'm sure they all do
A good dude & Epstein island.
WTF??? Get a clue Epstein island is for pedophiles. Pedophiles are not good dudes
@@integrity101 r/woosh
@@integrity101 You're dumb
My confidence bar boosted up to 150 percent while listening to them talk.
52:03 #ZackSnyder , Executives appraising Zack Snyder’s 300 and discussing how they missed the opportunity to WB, and former WB head Alan Horn (current Disney Head) sharing his experience with Zack, all in front of current WB chief Toby Emmerich, who is trying hard to escape it, and change the topic, for his famous Snyder sabotages.
Thanks
I loved this. All the insight and even all the little jabs at the other studios was so fun. Like an episode of Succession
Tim Bagwell what’s that?
@@studiorose11 It is this awesome show on HBO about this family that owns a huge business and they are all basically trying to out play each other to become the CEO. So it creates this interesting dynamic where they want to destroy each other, but also love each other at the same time cuz they are siblings
@@Fassnight Sounds very interesting tbh. Saw alot about it, and the awards/praises it got.
FINALLY!!! Someone who likes Succession😂
Deeply, deeply cynical people pretending that it's about a love of movies and art, but micromanaging all the material we watch in a very calculated way.
Yep.
and who the fuck are you. Do you know them personally? Shut the fuck up for a second
@@thepedrorriva Most people are too sure they're right about everything to actually think about anything.
The moderator is fantastic.
What a GREAT interview and such GREAT questions!
I don't get the "movie incites violence. The movie makes the audience violent." First of all, the audience has agency. They are not just passively consuming but rather active - engaging with the text.
Favourite Movies That You Watched Over and Over as a Child
Everyone Else: The Great Escape, The Sound of Music, Dr Zhivago, Bambi, Star Wars, Indiana Jones
Toby Emmerich: The Godfather
Suddenly it all makes sense...
Good point. I film about (in part) doing what is needed to gain and maintain control over others for financial gain. Hopefully he never killed anyone (just careers with the studio).
I would really love a roundtable with studio executives now since the landscape has changed so much.
This years roundtable is gonna be really insightful with covid. Talking about the backlog, worries with releases and filming worries
The humongeous storytelling platform that Disney owns is hands down scary.
On another note-- loved this roundtable, the host was amazing and the questions spot on! I'd love to see a conversation like this with smaller production houses execs and another with cinema owners large & small.
And yet all they seem to do is shitty live-action remakes of classic animated movies, they already ruined star wars, thank god marvel is a handled by kevin feige or else they would've ruined it too. Disney is cancer
The male actor's table was a snooze fest compared this. How incredibly insightful and interesting. Great interviewer, insightful guests, good topics. Bravo.
heretustay I guess actors are still more the ‘employees’ whereas these people had to fight nail and tooth to get to where they are now
Jason Huang eh, I wouldn’t say that’s what made the actors roundtable suffer this year: it was more because they were all star struck from Robert Dinero, there were too many varying and divergent personalities that either didn’t mesh well or weren’t led well (the interviewer’s fault, of whom I have never really liked), no one had much to add, the conversation would die out consistently, and it was just generally underwhelming. The female actors round table, the directors, those were both just as stellar as this one, and both just as insightful for their given fields. The actors just didn’t hit the mark this time. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ascoundrel it's pretty gross watching people gush over these leeches. Great to see I'm not the only one feeling this way
Audacious Scoundrel what were they lying about then? I know the China part showed some of their truer colors a bit, but what else do you think was off?
I’m not going to defend their insane personal wealth and the cumulative corporate wealth they handle and represent, and I would love to see cinema (all art really) massively publicly supported, and even nationalized. Go for it, that would be amazing. But I’m not going deny that this was a look into this current system that I haven’t seen before. It felt candid enough, but I could be completely wrong, and I’m willing to be shown that.
Best and most insightful round table. Goes without saying people in those positions are all intelligent, whether you like their creative decisions or not. I like that Sony guy - nice to know some studio heads are nerdy enthusiastic cinephiles.
I am officially addicted to these roundtables. They're not just competitors or former colleagues as the media paints them out to be. They love to make great content! It's a beautiful thing you folks do for us. I say thank you from the bottom of my binging little heart.
However this roundtable is what they present to the public. Behind the curtains it’s all about numbers. These execs aren’t filmmakers, they are moneymakers. Great interview though
@@departmentofdate2263 Of course its about numbers. Isnt every company in the world about profit? Sony exec said it in the interview. Lol
Everyone at the table hates the Disney guy 😂
Schenck Films OFC
Or the Netflix guy
@@albertoespinoza4832 Nah, I get the feeling the people at the table don't hate Scott (the Netflix guy) as much as the interviewer does. They've done two of these things with execs now where that guy has tried for several minutes to pry Netflix subscriber numbers out of him, only for people at the table to come to his defense by bringing up how Netflix saved The Irishman: that movie's not my idea of a good time, but for people that consider Scorsese's work historically significant, floating the investment capital to make that movie happen was a huge deal
Plus, Amazon is exponentially larger than Netflix, less of that is debt assets, and they have less viewers to placate, so they can literally make countless indie-budget prestige shows and movies for viewership and industry clout, and they barely have to spend a single red cent on it compared to the resources they have available. So I'll bet Amazon is the one they REALLY hate right now; you know how Scorsese was a big get for Netflix? Amazon has had Woody Allen, Jim Jarmusch, Spike Lee, Park Chan-wook (Oldboy director), and never batted an eye about whipping out the checkbook. And who's watched these movies from these talented directors that Amazon makes? Honestly, not many people: Late Night was a pretty sizable disappointment for them in terms of ROI, and they didn't even care
I think the studio execs know that: they don't hate Netflix because Netflix has to eat up a metric fuckton in debt and poach next-level talent just to be able to keep up their massive subscriber count - Netflix is an unknown quantity where they might be the future of media content, or they might end up the next Blockbuster, and people like Alan Horn know that, and I doubt they envy it. Whereas Amazon can just spit out a highly talked-about TV miniseries like Mrs. Maisel or Fleabag or distribute a film like Honey Boy or Chi-Raq or The Report or Manchester By the Sea and not have it be a big deal. They literally spent a quarter of a billion dollars securing extensive rights to make a LotR TV show, and Prime Video isn't even one of the company's biggest moneymakers. Meanwhile, look at a licensed film like Sonic: that WHOLE production didn't even cost $100 mil before marketing, and that's still a huge chunk of change to them.
Jen's the one sitting at that table next to Alan Horn because Amazon's the only company with the kind of money to take on Disney, but they've got their hand in so many other profitable cookie jars that movies are just an afterthought to them. When Alan tried to joke about Netflix putting out too many movies and Jen's name got thrown out, I don't think that was a coincidence.
friends can someone enlighten me about to kill a mocking bird part at 23:18, I looked up the idiom but it didn't make sense to me.
@@dereklouster4283 Tom Rothman used to be an English teacher, and I think he was just letting a little bit of that literature snob out a bit and taking a bit of lighthearted offense at comic books being compared to classic American literature
I enjoyed this round table much more than I initially thought I would. The interviewer did a great job of asking really insightful questions and ones that I didn't even know I wanted to have answered until they were presented.
This was really great. Thanks, THR!
Great insight, information, and "shot caller" perspectives that answers a lot of my thoughts within the industry. Love this video, thank you THR for providing this!!
Interesting how they're quick to blame a faulty script as the reason a film flops but the writers are still known as the bottom of the totem pole in the entertainment business. WTF?
Might have answered your own question.
Absolutely. If the script is the most important thing then writers should be paid as much or at least closer to movie stars
Yh Writers are treated like disposable tools for filmmaking. It shouldn't be that way considering the fact that they make directors and studio execs look good. Very unfair world we live in.
Economics. Companies will pay the least amount possible they can. They dont pay movie stars millions because they want to. There is only 1 Brad Pitt. He alone can bring millions to see the film, so he knows his worth and can ask for more. If a writer asks for more money, the company can just get another no name writer. Its basic supply and demand unfortunately.
@@sylviaoluchy1266 Do you think let's say, the writer of Gravity should earn as much as Sandra bullock? When her performance not the story was the foundation of the whole movie? I love writing, but no, scripts are less complicated than books and are worthless if not handled by good film makers, writers are in the same level as cinematographers but bellow directors and actors
That was a very good interview, very insightful and well moderated by the interviewer. I wish subjects such as diversity and sexual harassment were addressed because we can no longer keep asking these questions to actors. Directors and studio executives need answer those questions but they are never asked to…
Oh yes
No dude, fuck that shit. I was so glad I could finally watch something without having to be reminded of sexual crimes all the fucking time. I don't even watch the news because I can't stand the negativity, keep that subject to the news, let people just have good conversations at least ONCE without bringing the same fucking subject.
@@thepedrorriva I understand your point but if we want to stop talking about it 24/7, people need to be held accountable for their actions. These executives have a huge responsibility because they are extremely powerful. If they wanted to, they could considerably increase diversity and gender equality and reduce discrimination based on race/gender. Social pressure is very annoying but it is also a very effective tool and we need to stop asking these questions to people who have limited power in the industry and start asking them to those who make decisions and define our culture.
Ped Mr imagine coming from a place of that much privilege. it’s always easier to close your eyes and ears to actual issues because they make you uncomfortable, but that makes no headway in resolving the issue that poses a problem in the lives of thousands of people.
@@suramyasingh2465 And for you it's always easier to blame someone's non-existent privilege rather than actually engage with someone else's point of view, because you're so insecure and immature that you can't say anything without attacking the other person.
Loved this!! Need this each year
How did I even miss the notification of such an iconic round table?!?
I honestly didn’t see that coming.
Zack Snyder being a topic(in a good way) in front of WB! Hahaha I love the movie industry.
how are they able holding back to mention snyder cut
That man is a legend 💯
At which minutes are they talking about Snyder?
@@jakestrex5139 52:06
Toby Emmerich looks like he doesnt take his own advice lol
I wish this room was more diverse
The Oligarchs of High Production Cinema.
Parasites to those that write and create the stories we love. Every show under these imps would be better if they stayed out of it and just wrote the checks.
You missed out the word.... WHITE
thehoneyeffect yes exactly.
Incredibly surprising that this occurred, watched till the end, very engaging conversation and great questions and journalism 👏
Great interviewer. Asked solid questions.
This was a really cool conversation to watch! I love all forms of film and TV and it is amazing that we have so many platforms to choose from now ☺
This is an interesting sensation: I've never been scared to watch a THR Roundtable before.