I think people confuse being overrated with the mark they left in history. You can dislike their music, even hate it and it's ok, what you can't deny is their place in history, they got to live in a very special time and place, they were the spearhead along with other great bands and artist of the period to a new generation of music willing to try new things, experiment, be themselves, they inspired so many great artist even today. So, regardless of their sound, their influence made such a good impact in music that can still be felt today.
@@willymaykit1482 Elvis was another legend, he greatly inspired the Beatles, his influence at the time was as great if not bigger than the so called boy band, teenager girls loved them both, but so do teenager boys and young adults, they were a lot more than your typical boy band.
@@DeadbeatChild No. I disagree that people actually think that if it wasn't for the Beatles then there would be no music anymore. They were a boy band for the teenage girls, nothing more.
If anything, the Beatles are actually still underrated. They invented a lot of things that they don't really get credit for, like sampling (Tomorrow Never Knows), world music (Within You, Without You), and using feedback in a song (I Feel Fine). Note that none of these songs are even usually mentioned as among their greatest. They even invented the idea of a rock band where all the members are billed as a unit. Before the Beatles, groups were a leader and a backup group, like Bill Haley & the Comets or Buddy Holly & the Crickets. They were also the first boy band, where every teenage girl had a favorite member. The number of things they pioneered is staggering and that's before you get into the quality of their songwriting and musicianship. They made several of the greatest albums in history, while leaving the best songs off the albums and releasing them separately as singles. And in addition to having the greatest songwriting team in history (Lennon & McCartney), the third songwriter (George Harrison) wrote three of their top ten most popular songs as ranked on a recent SiriusXM Beatles Channel countdown (While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Something, Here Comes the Sun). I could go on and on, but you get the idea. There are a lot of other great artists out there, like the Stones, Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Zeppelin, Bowie, etc., but no one comes near the Beatles in terms of their sheer talent and impact. And they did it all in less than a decade.
They literally didnt invent anything. Sampling was invented in 1971 not by the Beatles, they werent the first ones to use feedback they were just the first ones to use it on a commercially successful album but guys like Link wray and surf rock bands had been using it pretty extensively. There talent level is also pretty suspect, Paul wasnt a great bass player, Ringo wasnt a great drummer, and John wasnt great on guitar. The most musically talented instrumentally was George but not one of them would make a top 10 list of greatest at their respective position.
@@toddpick8007 Paul WAS a great bass player, not sure what you're talking about. He was the most musically gifted member of the group, he could sit in for anyone and play their instrument. And if sampling was invented in 1971 (your words, not mine) then the Beatles were also the first time travelers, as Tomorrow Never Knows was the last track on Revolver, released in 1966.
@@lomarsweed6604 My first instrument was Bass guitar, no he was not. I mean compared to even contemporaries of the era he was not on their level. Hes not terrible hes just very bland as a bassist. Do you know what sampling actually is? stacking a loop which was being done 10+ years before any Beatles song ever isnt sampling.
@@jayclarke6671 Well I mean music is subjective, so there's no sense trying to make a case that their music is objectively good or bad. But in terms of their popularity and influence on popular culture, as well as music (performance, composition, studio work etc.) they're pretty much still unrivaled.
As a 22 y/o Beatles fan, I kinda feel like people from my generation literally don't like the Bealtes and the oldies just because it "sounds" old and that they might be made fun of because they like it. And, vice versa, people above 40-50 don't like a lot of music today for the same reasons. Music is always evolving, and I think everyone should be able to enjoy any genre and any time in music without feeling like they're out of touch or weird.
The biggest reason is not their lack of appreciation but their lack of perspective. Like Bill said, Beatles were God like in 60s. Like Metallica, Nirvana and Pearl Jam put together in 90s. Like Kanye, Drake, Post Malone, Kendrick put together right now.
I always enjoy Bill Burr's comments and comedy. Regarding the Beatles, the group had as much of an impact on history as they did on music. Their progression, musically, from 1963 to 1969 is breathtaking. Historically, they influenced a whole generation.
Yes!! The musical evolution they underwent during a 6/7 year period is (to my knowledge) literally unmatched by any other group at this point in time. That’s a point I don’t see said often enough in the “Beatles are overrated” discourse. Even if you don’t like they music at any point in their career, it’s just a fact that they progressed at an insanely impressive rate
It's a slow burn but one of my favorite things about getting a little older (I'm 35) is being able to watch an entire generation eat their words. And I'm not just talking about The Beatles. Look, I get it. I was 15 once, too. I knew it all. Everything I liked was good and everything I didn't was bad, plain and simple. Then I got a little older and had that "I might have been completely full of shit back there" moment of clarity. It's a long walk but well worth the payoff.
For what they did in just 8 years? The more you look at it, the more incredible it is. Analyzed to death, but that's for a reason. They were mercurial. And nobody will ever eclipse them. Underrated, if anything.
Absolutely *not* underrated. If you actually believe that, you have no idea what you’re talking about. They are lauded as geniuses and absolutely worshipped by the masses.
I got all caught up in the Beatles nostalgia as a kid in the late 80's as the first CD reissues were being released right into the 90's. I went the other direction a bit when the 1 comp was first out, I didn't think it represented The Beatles well, almost all John songs in the first half and almost all Paul songs in the second half. I never fully thought The Beatles were overrated but in the 2000's I thought they weren't the be all and end all. A year before the second CD reissues were out I read a bunch of articles about how most of the 80's CD reissues are weak and listen to proper mono mixes and vinyl rips instead. Stuff like hearing the mono mix of Paperback Writer was a big eye opener and I've been a full on fan again since.
I had the pleasure of opening the ears and eyes of young fella that had really never heard the Beatles. Even young people, I don't know how you go through your life never hearing the Beatles. He was blown away and instantly became a huge fan. And this is a guy who pretty much just knew hip hop.
Nobody cares, dude! Nobody cares! No one cares about your self-important opinion! Like what you wanna like and be happy! let others like what they wanna like!
“I say in speeches that a plausible mission of artists is to make people appreciate being alive at least a little bit. I am then asked if I know of any artists who pulled that off. I reply, 'The Beatles did'.” ― Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., Timequake
I used to think they were overrated, but now I think they properly rated. They're not my favourite band, but I have zero issue with them often being called the greatest band of all time
I was about 10 or 11 when I first discovered them, before then I didn't have much interest in music at all but when my parents bought those Red and Blue Greatest hits CDs and started playing them I took notice, there was something about their music even as a kid grabbed me.
There's only a handful I don't particularly like. One is "Baby's In Black," and then there's the experimental stuff like "Revolution #9" and "Wild Honey Pie," and a couple of George's Indian music numbers. Another is "I Want You (She's So Heavy)". But for pretty much all the rest, they range from above average to all-time classics.
@@randyjordan5521 That's what's so amazing about the Beatles. There is something for everybody. I Want You is a favorite of many and Baby's in Black would be a great achievement for most bands with the wonderful harmony and guitar solo. th-cam.com/video/xwuIHR_e4yI/w-d-xo.html
The simple fact that the Beatles are constantly discussed, documented, repackaged and "argued" over 50-60 years after their music was released says it all.
@@cjnv48 So only the boomers are buying the Beatles music? Talk to people around your age and you’ll find you’re mistaken. I don’t even know your age, but they are bought by multiple generations.
Berklee College of Music still happily teaches multiple classes focusing on the Beatles, their solo careers, and their genius in music theory, composition and production.
I Don't love EVERY song, & the later stuff WAS more fun & experimental, but I Absolutely LOVE The Beatles!! LOTS of Fantastic songs to be enjoyed. Lots of songs (Albums) that I listen to on a fairly regular basis. I'd go Crazy if I could never hear their music again. It is still listened to all over the world by hundreds of millions of people - they put out alot of Gr8 songs during their relatively short time, but I feel that alot of the music they made is Timeless, & will continue 2B enjoyed by many People for a long time to come. I plan on it for myself, & My Kids (Willingly - LOL!!) do too!! Peace!!
The Beatles are underrated, only because it's impossible to say how much influence they had on other bands and musicians and on doing music in studios.
No they definitely aren’t People like you overwrite them the Beatles have no good songs or music don’t people that like them are baby boomers specifically white ones
@@michaelbarat3212 wrong this is all so stupid to say They did it influence nobody their music isn’t good no modern artist sites them as influence and spoiler rock music and bands have been dead since the 80s get over it
I think Lennon had that extra intangible "it". That was the genius spark and McCartney was a diligent tunesmith and hardworking with his own genius moments who would drag Lennon out of bed to " go to work" This created a magical partnership that was pure gold, especially between 62 and 66. They sort of went their own ways a bit after that. They were magical! Harrison appeared towards their finale with some of their best songs. Wonderful phenomenon.
@@harold3165 He did eventually, but only after he saw Lennon’s genius, and worked his ass off for it. Lennon had a sort of natural spark, which is also why he was lazy. Mccartney and Lennon needed each other.
@@TheAlibabatree Paul was the actual genius in the true sense, literaly wrote songs in his sleep. Lennon worked his ass off after seeing Mccartney too, and he has said that songs came easier to Paul than him. You just made up some bullshit about him "seeing" Lennon and becoming one, when it's widely recorded he started writing songs before he ever met Lennon.
They quite litterally made the music industry what it is today. Our idea of what an artist or band is today is tied directly to the beatles. I truly believe music would be years in the past creatively if it wasnt for them.
@@manuelsw2699exactly, and Singles werent even a thing till the beatles. And most big names performed covers, they created our idea of a singer songwriter and band
I always tell my wife this because she doesn't know why the Beatles were so worshipped. I said imagine music like Doo Doo Wap then suddenly changed into Yellow Submarine or Come Together. That's an insane transition all within 5 years in the 60s
Most people who make this argument only have a very surface knowledge of their catalogue. Sure, if you only listen to the songs you hear on the radio or a greatest hits playlist, I could maybe see it, but their deeper cuts are a fucking revelation and Revolver was so far ahead of its fucking time it’s insane.
As a lover of classical music very familiar with the best of best of Bach and Beethoven, the Beatles never stop amazing me with their genius. They were transcendent musicians.
@@meciocio "Oh yeah, I, find it genius." Look, it's a simple adolescent love song that's still pleasurably stuck in my--and probably your--head after 60 years. It's just one of 50 of incredible variety and range, and they got more and more complex as they grew. There are all kinds of creative genius--some for everyman, some for the elite--and the Beatles captured everyone on Earth. Merry Christmas🌲
@@meciocio And since I mentioned the Bs, a lot of their greatest works are simple melodies and folk songs--just like I Want to Hold Your Hand--dressed up in elaborate clothing.
fell in love with them in 2015 as a 20 year old, they are incredible, the beatles during that 1965-1967 are probably the greatest band of all time Please Please Me A Hard Day's Night Help! Rubber Soul Revolver Sgt Pepper Magical Mystery Tour The White Album Abbey Road are some of the best albums of all time
I would love to be able to listen to each Beatles album for the first time, within the context and perspective of when they were released. Same thing with Hendrix! Had to be an amazing time for a music lover!
It was thrilling and indescribable for a music lover. I was vaccinated with a phonograph needle. I was 12 when the Beatles appeared on Sullivan. I'm grateful to be born at the best moment in history.
They were great. Also, they had whole orchestras and creative producers and engineers and were generous or opportunist enough to explore the new worlds and share this experience with other musicians. To think it was just four guys is to not think. Was thrilled to see Sir Paul rocking glasto. Still got it.
@@angelicaquirarte You can say that about any musician or group. especially today where the music is so corporate controlled its a joke to even call it creativity.
Personally, I adore the Beatles. I have no issue with people not liking their music but to say they are overrated is nonsense, and just shows that the person saying it is completely ignorant of their cultural impact.
It's such a shame people find it difficult to appreciate older music. I used to feel exactly the same when hearing certain songs, it's hard to fit Beatles songs in a playlist let's just put it like that lol. But.. certain songs always stuck out e.g. here comes the sun, hey Jude, and then over time I discovered blackbird and while my guitar gently weeks, and then one day I was really depressed bordering on suicidal and then I heard "A day in the life" for the first time and it made me cry and practically changed my life if you allow me to be a bit melodramatic. Now the Beatles hands down are the best band in the world in my eyes. I almost want to shake people, slap them in the face and tell them to go listen to the Beatles because their songs are timeless when you really feel them and I realised they have never been more relevant in 2022. Most things were going through The Beatles have covered in one way or another. They truly are genius and anyone who says otherwise are fools quite frankly.
Nah they are not the best band ever and they aren’t Relevant today when the baby boomers die off the Beatles will die which is a good thing there music is all dog shit they have no good songs
I and my sister lived through it. I'm 73 now. She's passed away, but was the quintessential 'Beatlemaniac'. We saw them in concert twice in Chicago. 'Give Peace a Chance' sparked a movement to end our involvement in Vietnam, and ushered in flower power and peace until 9-11. ABBA had an impact in Europe, however the Lennon / McCartney Duo literally changed the world.
@@neilmccann5826 this is such a baby boomer comment no the Beatles didn’t change shit and never will and they didn’t start nothing about Vietnam and no Paul and John didn’t change the world they wrote shit songs that need to be purged from the world
Exactly! I'm Gen X and i have been over the Beatles since the 80's! Couldnt care less & seeing all these people besides themselves arguing for THEIR preference, like it is important is simply hysterical!
Chord progressions up to the early 60s was like the box of 6 crayons you got at 5 years old. They turned that box of 6 crayons into the box of '64 crayons. They took pop/rock music down a path that practically everyone else followed. Only rivaled by Motown & The Beach Boys. Most people who dislike the Beatles love a band that was clearly influenced/inspired by the Beatles. The best way to get how great the Beatles were is to TH-cam the video about the #1 song of every month of the 1960s. It still sounds like 50s music for the most part until 1964. That's where you hear a very distinctive chapter change. After '64, ALL of the music sounds different than 1963 and before.
Many of their "innovative, new" chord progressions were just recycled from the old days, jazz pop from the 40s and whatnot. I don't know how true or untrue this statement is. I just put it here to see how other folks feel about it.
@@mikec6733 people really want to think the beatles invented music because they are a cultural icon that represents an identity for baby boomers. The great classical composers were doing things that the beatles could barely even imagine
@@mikec6733 they used sophisticated chords in previously unused sequences. That's the whole point. They BROKE the cycle of recycled chord progressions which are infinite. Changing time signature mid-song, using instruments not previously heard in pop songs, overlapping what key a song is played in, using drums to emphasize rather than just keep the beat(A Day In A Life), starting a song with the chorus instead of a verse(She Loves You), and so many other things we take for granted that they did first. They also never used the same formula for a song. Most well known musicians have some songs that sound alike. The Beatles didn't. That's what made them unique. Why accuse the band that stopped everyone from playing recycled formulas of playing recycled formulas. That's like accusing Muhammad Ali of not marketing himself.
@@TheGiantMidget people really want to think The Beatles were so inventive because they were doing things previously unthought of. Saying "Boomer" indicates that you're too young to be in position to have a say worth taking seriously(no offense). If you understand music history and cultural chronology then you really couldn't deny the impact these guys had on Western Culture. Folks make a big deal because they were a big deal.
No, Beatles took inspiration from a few artists that changed the world not just musically but culturally and the Beatles did it again, you can’t dismiss the genius of the Beatles.
The quick answer is no: the beatles are not overrated, and could never be. They inspired artists to be more expressive and sincere in their music during a time when music was anything but. wanna know how good the beatles are, listen to anything released before 1966, and then listen to anything afterward, you should spot the line the sand, the imprint of how the beatles revolutionised good taste.
Then why was music like Chuck Berry so much better than the corny boy band songs the Beatles made? They weren't even good until they started doing drugs lol
Glad to hear that Bill has some perspective on the Fab Four and some insight into what actually matters when it comes to evaluating someone's musical expression. But it really comes down to the individual songs. In that light some Beatles songs will be in songbooks going forward into the future as long as there is civilization. That's the bottom line.
@@JohnSmith-hw1vv Right. I can't see Burr in the same light since his marriage. I agree with Anthony Cumia, that his wife has "ruined his comedy..." Sad.
I grew up with The Beatles and one of the things people don’t realize is how awful music was. In fact in 1963 the media didn’t know how to call the group. Back in the day, there was a good looking guy who had songwriters, arrangers, producers, back up musicians, and here come The Beatles and they did it all, songwriters, vocals with 3 part harmonies, played their own instruments, etc..( except for production which they took over later on). Were they a vocal group, musicians playing songs, they didn’t know how to describe them. Too bad we’re back to the songwriter, performer, studio musicians, etc.
@@MovieGuy666 There was some good music pre-1964, but it was mostly solo acts or doo-wop type groups---a lot of Bobby Darin, Doris Day, Brenda Lee, Paul Anka, Neil Sedaka, Bobby Vee, The Platters, The Coasters, etc. Before the Beatles came on the scene, rock and roll music had suffered several scandals and other negative events, which diminished the genre in the minds of most of the public. Elvis had quit touring and was making bad movies. The Beatles revived the original '50s American rock and roll and put their own talents into it, and then they began writing their own songs which were more popular than most songs of the '50s.
Do a little digging and you’ll see the model of outside songwriters, studio musicians, and producers never really went away, nor is it more prominent today than it was before the Beatles. It still exists, but to a much smaller degree than back in the day-(the main exception is mainstream country music, which is still very much a “machine.”) I’d also say there are more “Jack of all Trades” types today than ever before (for reasons I could elaborate on in great detail, but for brevity’s sake I’ll stop here.)
Music before 1963 or '64 was great. Del Shannon, Link Wray & The Wraymen, Eddie Cochran, Sandy Nelson, Dick Dale, Ritchie Valens, The Ventures, The Kingsmen, Buddy Holly & the Crickets (in fact everyone except Pat Boone from the first wave '50s) The Trashmen, The Tornados, Wanda Jackson, Chris Montez, Hasil Adkins, The Beach Boys, I'll say it Chubby Checker, Roy Orbisons post sun record years, The Lively Ones, Bunker Hill (The Girl Can't Dance, if that's the only song you take from this that's okay with me), Jan & Dean, The Surfaris, and James Brown. I still love what The Beatles did for everyone though. Rock and roll and the garage bands immediately after were never the same even when they were still in the garage
The Beach Boys also arranged and composed their own songs, as did Bob Dylan, the Everly Brothers, Link Wray, Little Richard, Johnny Cash, Booker T and the MCs, and many many other great acts at that time that influenced the Beatles. I don’t know how this narrative came about that music was terrible before the Beatles, but it wasn’t. It was actually quite vibrant.
George Martin, in my opinion, was the fifth Beatle. Without him they wouldn’t have achieved what they did, but let’s be clear, he was the producer, not the writer. He listened to Paul’s, John’s, and George’s ideas/concepts and worked with them to craft the finished product. He made suggestions but it was the Beatles who decided what would be recorded and released.
The day before The Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan for the first time, I could care less if I ever learned how to play an instrument. And then that Sunday night in February 1964 came ... we were eating dinner at the time. Well, I wasn't -- my eyes were homed in on the TV across the room. The next day, and every day thereafter, I bothered my parents for a guitar -- until Christmas of '64, when it arrived. So I blame The Beatles for getting me into this music biz. Furthermore, the release of a Beatles album meant playing that sucker with the speakers up against your head if necessary, so that you'd catch every nuance of the new batch of tunes. A lot of research was done in garages across the country as we tried to duplicate some of the sounds on the record -- sounds that we now know were not possible with the equipment on hand. Here's the big difference I would like to make, and I don't care who gets mad over it: As a group, The Beatles were unstoppable -- and the imitators couldn't hold a candle to them. As solo artists ...? Sure, they had their hits, but you could hear how much the other three were contributing to the group when they were no longer there, and it was glaringly obvious. Still is.
Well considering a lot of bands are considered legendary off of 1 or 2 greats albums and they had like 14 in the 7 years as a band, no they are not overrated.
UNDERRATED!! The tunes are so great. I started listening to them only a few years ago and can't believe how awesome their songs are. 50 years or whatever it is they still have so many great songs. I guess if you don't like melodies and only enjoy hip-hop then you won't like them. Thanks
To me, the bottom line has always been this. You may not like the Beatles, your favourite artist did. As did their favourite artist. That alone is enough to make them an undeniable staple in the history of music.
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Nope, my favorite artists did NOT, and neither did their favorite artists. Go home... You're drunk, max!
If people grow up listening to a certain genre of music they can get locked into that as "normal." However, if they grow as musical connoisseurs, they can branch out and discover other genres from different times--and enjoy all that music has to offer. That's the best place to be.
Yes, as were "Octopus's Garden," "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?", "Rocky Raccoon," "Her Majesty," and a few others. Many artists put out novelty songs, such as Elton John's "Crocodile Rock." But that one and "Yellow Submarine" became all-time classics. "Yellow Submarine" reached #2 on the charts with the band's #4 singer on lead. Tell your brother that little factoid.
It is typical of milenialls and gen z to look down on old institutions and dump on them just to get likes.. Better to ignore such attention seeking statements. Beatles will remain one of the best bands ever
You can say almost anything super successful is overrated, but I think the Beatles are one of the few that can actually back up the accolades. You can dislike the music all you want but there's no denying their impact.
Anyone young today who trashes the Beatles - it’s not their fault. Listen to the shit that’s out now! Anyone who wasn’t there -their opinion is completely worthless as is most of the shit they listen to.
When Hey Jude came out as a single and was played for the gurdt time on the radio, many factories stopped production to listen, that's how massively influencebyisl they were.
When I was in the 7th grade in 1968, my junior high school in Montgomery, Alabama had a magazine drive. The kids who sold x number of subscriptions got to go to a little party in the lunchroom. There were three 9th graders there playing music--two girls and a boy. The only song I remember them playing was "Hey Jude," and that was while that song was still a hit record. I remember thinking how awesome it was that those kids, just two years older than me at 15 or 16, could learn and play that song. I didn't know who the boy who played the guitar and sang lead was. Fast forward about eight years, to 1976, when I was 21 years old. I began hearing about a rock band called Styx that included a guy from our hometown. The guy's name was Tommy Shaw. He's still leading Styx and playing rock music to this day at age 69.
So many firsts were done by the Beatles. They (and their producer) forwarded the technology and imagination of studio music. You can hate their music or think it's no good, but you're music wouldn't be at the same level without them.
I went to that museum, and - as a Beatles fan - I really loved it. I went into the old version also, when I was a kid, 20 years ago. That one was fun too, but they've really improved the museum. BUT - as a Beatles fan - The Beatles are definitely overrated by many. They are excellent, obviously, possibly my favourite band of all time. And musical geniuses as well! But they didn't invent heavy metal, double albums, concept albums, psychedelia etc. They were at the forefront but they were also influenced by their contemporaries s.a. Dylan, Brian Wilson, The Byrds and also by people like Beethoven for that matter.
This is a fantastic comment! if you LOVE the beatles, love them! Nothing wrong with that! if you THINK they are overrated, you are right! if you THINK they are underrated, you are still right! But if someone else holds a different opinion than you, both people are right in their eyes! just enjoy what you enjoy and stop trying to foist it upon others (not suggesting you are doing this personally)!
It’s fine to not like the Beatles but to ignore the objective fact that they redefined popular culture in the twentieth century is manifestly absurd. It’s like saying the gun didn’t change warfare or the automobile hasn’t changed society. It’s just a wilfully ignorant statement to claim that they are overrated.
I think people equate overrated with bad or completely undeserved which maybe some people use the word to mean those things but I try to stick to the true meaning of simply this thing is rated rated or beloved more than perhaps the thing has earned that love. The Beatles were and still to a lesser extent are HUGE. But to be fair I don’t think anything made by man save for perhaps the pillars of civilization deserve as much praise as the Beatles. So yes I do think they’re overrated however I don’t think they’re hacks or something their impact is still amazing
Never met a person that is familiar with their entire work and that thinks that they are overrated. I’ve met a LOT of people who think that they are in fact overrated and who really only know a couple of their tunes and have this black&white image of them, singing in unison while some funny looking white girls are screaming like crazy. What almost all of those people do not know is that there is another phase of this band that comes after the “boy band” phase in which they displayed what goes down as the greatest songwriting streak in the history of modern music.
I know what you mean, but i have to disagree with the end of your comment. I play many instruments fairly well and love their early stuff and can't stand their later stuff. We all like what we like and there are plenty of reasons for it. There are too many underrated bands when comparing to The Beatles, but it doesn't change that they too were underrated in ways.
I grew up in the 2000’s, The Beatles are a religious expert to me. Good music is good music, period. Modern music sucks. The values and principles are dark and shallow, empty… and the music itself RARELY makes up for it. Give your kids The Beatles.
AM radio played every track on every LP. Often their charts had the LP at #1 on both LP and Singles charts. It is impossible to imagine for those who weren't there how huge they were, the extent of their impact on EVERYTHNIG.
@@Thepoweroftheriffcompelsme You are clearly a better musician than him because you agree with me! LOL What a farce this entire 'argument' is! You are so right though! These people are nuts for trying to convince others in the way that they do!
They aren't my favorite band of all time and they aren't the greatest live act of all time but they are the greatest band of all time and the most important. They basically were like the original boy band. They could have just written Please Please Me over and over and gotten caught up with their own popularity and fame and screaming girls but they decided to evolve as artists. The sheer amount of very high quality music they put out in less than a decade...really closer to 7 or 8 years... will never, ever come close to being topped. Nor will their importance and what they meant to society. Period. Paragraph.
Anyone who thinks the Beatles are overrated needs to list their 5 favourite artists and then ask themselves how those will be viewed 50 years after their peak period. There are some legendary classic rock bands like Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Black Sabbath and AC/DC whose music has stood the test of time very nicely. I can't think of too many popular bands from the 80's and 90's whose music still sounds as good today as it did back then... U2, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Prince, R.E.M., Guns N Roses, Metallica, Faith No More, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Oasis, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Linking Park... I don't think any of their music holds up as well as the 60's & 70's legends. One thing is for certain... there has never been a band who had as much universal appeal as The Beatles - across all generations, old people, young people, male, female. I doubt we will see many kids in the 2050's or 2060's discovering & loving the songs made by Drake, Ed Sheeran, Dua Lipa, Adele, Taylor Swift or Billie Eilish. I suppose they're all pop stars.. Maybe some people years from now will still like Radiohead, Coldplay, Arctic Monkeys, The Weeknd and Kendrick Lamar... I think the problem today is that the "mainstream" (the charts, Grammys, etc) have become hijacked by the major corporations and used to push their own product. The true artists and the best bands get less mainstream exposure nowadays. There seems to be a wider chasm today between pop music in the Top 40 and everything else.
Heres a couple facts about the Beatles. No other band or artist has ever changed the world more than the Beatles. No other band or artist has sold as many records. No other band or artist has written so many hits as the beatles. And they basicly did ALL in 7 years!!!! No, the beatles can NEVER be overrated. They are the best band ever. All the members have been inducted to the rock n roll hall of fame TWICE.
No they are not over rated because their music influences other music. When Nirvana was recording never mind, Kurt Wanted a more grunge, less produced sound but the producer wanted him to double track his vocals to produce something more clean and unique. Kurt said no, his producer the. Explained “well John Lennon did the same thing” and then Kurt agreed and they recorded an album that changed the course of music. So it’s not just about the music itself, but what the music inspires, just how the blues inspired bands like the Beatles and Led Zeppelin I personally love the Beatles. Listen to “here, there and everywhere” and try to tell me that’s not a glorious song. Paul McCartney wrote that by John lennons pool while he waited for him to wake up. That’s pure talent
I was raised in Ayrshire Scotland, growing up in the 1960s. I remember my cousin Sheena getting a new Beatles record and having a listening party with her girlfriends. They'd let me hang out with them and listen to the music. Later I would bring her Blues records from America that were unavailable in Scotland.
George Harrison learned to play American pop songs in the '50s by listening to Radio Luxembourg late at night and writing the lyrics down on a steno pad. He would then figure out the key and the chords.
Thanks for this bill because I remember when I was 19 in 1990 and I said the most foolish statement of all time that being the Beatles are overrated. Until I began to realize how they changed the face of recording. How they changed just the idea that it was a band and not Johnny and the silver Beatles, how they changed the idea that an artist would write their own songs. These are just a few examples of how they changed the face of music forever. I was in a band 10 years ago and the lead guitarist said to me and the drummer who are both huge beetles fans and understand how impactful the Beatles were, he said I don't like the Beatles they're not a very good band. We asked why? He came out with the most absurd statement of all time. He said because they don't have a good lead guitarist. We both said George harrison? We then stated don't ever say that again just stop talking about the Beatles. Just stop
@@randyjordan5521 yes. Exactly why we told him to just stop. :) This guy if it wasn't David gilmour or Mark knopfler they weren't a good guitarist anyway in his mind. Of course both those guys are great as well. But really George Harrison. The guitar solo in something so simple and yet not quite as simple as it sounds to grab that nuance
Anybody who says they are overrated have only heard of hey Jude help I wanna hold your hand n the hits but if u get into the b sides with a fat blunt forget about it
I answered people saying this by replying 'have yoy heard in my life and blackbird?' I mean, they may not like those songs anyway but they say no almost every time 😂
The Beatles phenomenon was the tip of the pop culture/youth revolution spear. It was like in the Wizard Of Oz; a regular, tired, dirty, old world & then BAM! It’s a fantasy world in COLOR! That’s a pretty good metaphor for the effect the Beatles had on an international level.
Na just some people dont understand how these people did something that most of us cant even imagine how to do half of it. They are not over rated they are amazing people in history.
Jeebus. People who post this attract the trolls who love to be contradictory and say, “I was never a fan” or worse, “I always preferred the George songs.” It’s stupid. Bill Burr is fine, he has his opinion and he expresses it well. Seems an OK guy. He gets it. What he gets at is the context. Imagine never hearing Jimi Hendrix or the The Rolling Stones and then it just drops out of nowhere. Mind blowing.
The fact that we're still discussing and analyzing a band that broke up over fifty years ago says it all. I seriously doubt anyone will discuss any current recording artist in fifty years or even ten years from now.
My girls and my Granddaughter like the Beatles, so I've done my job. Greatest band ever. Let's see if we're talking about the shit music today in 60 years. They'll still be talking about The Beatles
@@jayclarke6671 If you don't like the Beatles, you are in a very tiny minority. Virtually every pop/rock musician you like will tell you that the Beatles were the greatest in history.
That comment about having to block out everything that came after is spot on! I think you have to consider what came before a band, what was going on in their time, and then look at their direct influence on what came after
I'm going to do what Bill does and just talk out of me ass but the Beatles helped bring forth heavy metal, and revolutionized music in general, without them ever existing music would not be what it is today. The Beatles are the best God damn band to ever exist.
Yellow Submarine is written for kids. They could write strong songs in any genre... that's what made them special. There are some songs that aren't my favorite, but I understand why someone would like them. They also wrote hits for other people. Without the Beatles, there may be no Rolling Stones since they wrote their first hit.
Futurama was a guitar family of models for the English Based Company, Selmer Musical Instruments in the early '60s. Beloved by many Brits of the day, the earliest models were all said to have been made in Czechoslovakia by Delicia/Resonet & CSHN but by 1963 Hagstrom made some higher quality ones in Sweden. George Harrison was known to have used one for a time with The Beatles.
I love The Beatles and there are certain performers you are literally taking your reputation in your hands if you criticize. One of them is The Beatles. Even making a correct criticizm will render a poor slob a person non grata! And this at times can blind people to believing their heros can walk on water. But yes the Beatles indeed changed everything !
Wiki: In 1961 and 1962, Neil Aspinall had become good friends with Pete Best and subsequently rented a room in the house where Best lived with his parents. During one of the extended business trips of Best's stepfather, the 19-year-old Aspinall became romantically involved with Best's mother, Mona Best, who was 17 years his senior. As a result, during this period, Aspinall fathered a child by Mona: Vincent "Roag" Best. Roag Best was born in late July 1962, and just three weeks later, on 16 August 1962, Best was dismissed from the Beatles.
The movie Walk Hard encapsulates this decline. Dewey Cox starts out with "Take My Hand", and it gets called the devil's music. By the end of the movie, rappers are sampling his song "Walk Hard" to imply that a woman makes their dicks hard.
Hey Bill, you made some great points. You were correct to talk about quarterbacks from the sixties as opposed to today. The Beatles were changing the way rock and roll was written, and it's just that the current generations have always had music the way it is. They don't realize how the Beatles inspired my whole generation to play music (boomers). The Beatles even crossed over to country music and inspired that music as well. I heard Richard Starkey say in an interview that if the Beatles hadn't been in existence then it would have been someone else who changed music,so I agree with that. I expect someone to come along and get rock and roll started back again,I hope it's in my lifetime. Thanks friend
I think you'll find with most music and bands is that if you listen to the same thing over and over again, it gets a little tiring and the novelty wears off. I try not to listen to the same thing all the time because I want to be able to enjoy all my music when I'm retired. With the Beatles, you don't want to listen to them every day. Its great music, but you also want to keep it great. Its almost like porn and sex. You don't want too much of it.
Exactly! Unfortunately, when one is young & dumb you dont know this! its not until it happens to you that you figure out, for yourself, that you can over-indulge! For many of us, thats what the Beatles became!
I think people confuse being overrated with the mark they left in history. You can dislike their music, even hate it and it's ok, what you can't deny is their place in history, they got to live in a very special time and place, they were the spearhead along with other great bands and artist of the period to a new generation of music willing to try new things, experiment, be themselves, they inspired so many great artist even today. So, regardless of their sound, their influence made such a good impact in music that can still be felt today.
I fully disagree but that's ok. They were a boy band that the teens loved because at the time they only had Elvis.
@@willymaykit1482 Elvis was another legend, he greatly inspired the Beatles, his influence at the time was as great if not bigger than the so called boy band, teenager girls loved them both, but so do teenager boys and young adults, they were a lot more than your typical boy band.
Educated man well said I dislike them but respect their journey
@@willymaykit1482 You disagree that the Beatles made a significant impact on music?
@@DeadbeatChild No. I disagree that people actually think that if it wasn't for the Beatles then there would be no music anymore. They were a boy band for the teenage girls, nothing more.
If anything, the Beatles are actually still underrated. They invented a lot of things that they don't really get credit for, like sampling (Tomorrow Never Knows), world music (Within You, Without You), and using feedback in a song (I Feel Fine). Note that none of these songs are even usually mentioned as among their greatest. They even invented the idea of a rock band where all the members are billed as a unit. Before the Beatles, groups were a leader and a backup group, like Bill Haley & the Comets or Buddy Holly & the Crickets. They were also the first boy band, where every teenage girl had a favorite member. The number of things they pioneered is staggering and that's before you get into the quality of their songwriting and musicianship. They made several of the greatest albums in history, while leaving the best songs off the albums and releasing them separately as singles. And in addition to having the greatest songwriting team in history (Lennon & McCartney), the third songwriter (George Harrison) wrote three of their top ten most popular songs as ranked on a recent SiriusXM Beatles Channel countdown (While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Something, Here Comes the Sun). I could go on and on, but you get the idea. There are a lot of other great artists out there, like the Stones, Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Zeppelin, Bowie, etc., but no one comes near the Beatles in terms of their sheer talent and impact. And they did it all in less than a decade.
They literally didnt invent anything. Sampling was invented in 1971 not by the Beatles, they werent the first ones to use feedback they were just the first ones to use it on a commercially successful album but guys like Link wray and surf rock bands had been using it pretty extensively.
There talent level is also pretty suspect, Paul wasnt a great bass player, Ringo wasnt a great drummer, and John wasnt great on guitar. The most musically talented instrumentally was George but not one of them would make a top 10 list of greatest at their respective position.
@@toddpick8007 I'd reply to this point by point but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Have a nice weekend!
@@rockturtleneck actually i do know what im talking about which is why you have no reply ha ha ha.
@@toddpick8007 Paul WAS a great bass player, not sure what you're talking about. He was the most musically gifted member of the group, he could sit in for anyone and play their instrument. And if sampling was invented in 1971 (your words, not mine) then the Beatles were also the first time travelers, as Tomorrow Never Knows was the last track on Revolver, released in 1966.
@@lomarsweed6604 My first instrument was Bass guitar, no he was not. I mean compared to even contemporaries of the era he was not on their level. Hes not terrible hes just very bland as a bassist. Do you know what sampling actually is? stacking a loop which was being done 10+ years before any Beatles song ever isnt sampling.
The Beatles deserve all the praise they get.
absolutely.
Naw
@@jayclarke6671 Well I mean music is subjective, so there's no sense trying to make a case that their music is objectively good or bad. But in terms of their popularity and influence on popular culture, as well as music (performance, composition, studio work etc.) they're pretty much still unrivaled.
@@jayclarke6671 you’re right no notable shows not like they did an iconic rooftop performance or anything
@@jayclarke6671 also I recommend watching the Eight Days A Week documentary. It’s all about their touring years it’ll answer all your questions
As a 22 y/o Beatles fan, I kinda feel like people from my generation literally don't like the Bealtes and the oldies just because it "sounds" old and that they might be made fun of because they like it. And, vice versa, people above 40-50 don't like a lot of music today for the same reasons. Music is always evolving, and I think everyone should be able to enjoy any genre and any time in music without feeling like they're out of touch or weird.
The biggest reason is not their lack of appreciation but their lack of perspective. Like Bill said, Beatles were God like in 60s. Like Metallica, Nirvana and Pearl Jam put together in 90s. Like Kanye, Drake, Post Malone, Kendrick put together right now.
Being part of the younger generation you should really change your vocabulary. Replace “I feel” with “I THINK”
Their music from Revolver onwards sounds like it could've just as easily been released in the 90's. It doesn't sound old at all.
@@gargantuangoose9098 Yes! This is gold!
@@hasselett Thats YOUR subjective opinion! Others have a subjective opinion that may or may not agree with yours! Live with it!
I always enjoy Bill Burr's comments and comedy. Regarding the Beatles, the group had as much of an impact on history as they did on music. Their progression, musically, from 1963 to 1969 is breathtaking. Historically, they influenced a whole generation.
That’s cap dude
@@The_king567 I used to think that. It REALLY isnt
@@basedtyrone461 the truth hurts don’t it
Yes!! The musical evolution they underwent during a 6/7 year period is (to my knowledge) literally unmatched by any other group at this point in time. That’s a point I don’t see said often enough in the “Beatles are overrated” discourse. Even if you don’t like they music at any point in their career, it’s just a fact that they progressed at an insanely impressive rate
@@Ducky-lk1db they didn’t charge anything and there music was terrible
It's a slow burn but one of my favorite things about getting a little older (I'm 35) is being able to watch an entire generation eat their words. And I'm not just talking about The Beatles. Look, I get it. I was 15 once, too. I knew it all. Everything I liked was good and everything I didn't was bad, plain and simple. Then I got a little older and had that "I might have been completely full of shit back there" moment of clarity.
It's a long walk but well worth the payoff.
Yeah getting older is humbling. Too bad you cant pass this knowledge on to the younger generation.
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People who think they're overrated don't get it, or enjoy being contrary. The Beatles are truly a gift to this world.
You nailed it with the contrarian aspect...
It's like saying Beethoven is overrated.
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They don't understand their influence on music, style, and culture at that time. No band has had more impact on future bands and musicians.
They're essentially "Mean Mr. Mustard" amirite??
For what they did in just 8 years? The more you look at it, the more incredible it is.
Analyzed to death, but that's for a reason. They were mercurial.
And nobody will ever eclipse them. Underrated, if anything.
Not a chance at being underrated.
Absolutely *not* underrated. If you actually believe that, you have no idea what you’re talking about. They are lauded as geniuses and absolutely worshipped by the masses.
And after those eight years, all four had very successful solo careers.
As Dave Gilmour said.. they were a miracle
I got all caught up in the Beatles nostalgia as a kid in the late 80's as the first CD reissues were being released right into the 90's. I went the other direction a bit when the 1 comp was first out, I didn't think it represented The Beatles well, almost all John songs in the first half and almost all Paul songs in the second half. I never fully thought The Beatles were overrated but in the 2000's I thought they weren't the be all and end all. A year before the second CD reissues were out I read a bunch of articles about how most of the 80's CD reissues are weak and listen to proper mono mixes and vinyl rips instead. Stuff like hearing the mono mix of Paperback Writer was a big eye opener and I've been a full on fan again since.
I had the pleasure of opening the ears and eyes of young fella that had really never heard the Beatles. Even young people, I don't know how you go through your life never hearing the Beatles. He was blown away and instantly became a huge fan. And this is a guy who pretty much just knew hip hop.
Nobody cares, dude! Nobody cares! No one cares about your self-important opinion! Like what you wanna like and be happy! let others like what they wanna like!
you non caring you. self identified as a nobody.
Lol this is so ridiculous
Seems like u care
@@inconnu4961 You cared enough to reply to him lol.
“I say in speeches that a plausible mission of artists is to make people appreciate being alive at least a little bit. I am then asked if I know of any artists who pulled that off. I reply, 'The Beatles did'.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., Timequake
The Beatles were brilliant all considered
I used to think they were overrated, but now I think they properly rated. They're not my favourite band, but I have zero issue with them often being called the greatest band of all time
I was about 10 or 11 when I first discovered them, before then I didn't have much interest in music at all but when my parents bought those Red and Blue Greatest hits CDs and started playing them I took notice, there was something about their music even as a kid grabbed me.
It’s because they were catchy as fuck and you only need to hear their songs once to get them.
I was 7 in the early 70s and A Hard Day's Night aired on TV. That was it. I couldn't get enough.
I like roughly 20%-25% of the songs from most great bands. With the Beatles, I like roughly 75%. I think the Beatles are underrated.
@@jayclarke6671 I like how concisely and completely we disagree.
There's only a handful I don't particularly like. One is "Baby's In Black," and then there's the experimental stuff like "Revolution #9" and "Wild Honey Pie," and a couple of George's Indian music numbers. Another is "I Want You (She's So Heavy)". But for pretty much all the rest, they range from above average to all-time classics.
@@jayclarke6671 You are in a very tiny minority of human beings.
@@randyjordan5521 nah most of the word doesn’t like them the only Group that likes the Beatles is white baby boomers that’s it
@@randyjordan5521 That's what's so amazing about the Beatles. There is something for everybody. I Want You is a favorite of many and Baby's in Black would be a great achievement for most bands with the wonderful harmony and guitar solo.
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The simple fact that the Beatles are constantly discussed, documented, repackaged and "argued" over 50-60 years after their music was released says it all.
There's a lot of boomers
@@cjnv48 So only the boomers are buying the Beatles music? Talk to people around your age and you’ll find you’re mistaken. I don’t even know your age, but they are bought by multiple generations.
Berklee College of Music still happily teaches multiple classes focusing on the Beatles, their solo careers, and their genius in music theory, composition and production.
Only baby boomers are still talking about them Most people in the world don’t care about them because their music and shit sucks
Genius is Genius. Always
12 albums in 7 years, amazing band, musicians and song writers. 🎶
I Don't love EVERY song, & the later stuff WAS more fun & experimental, but I Absolutely LOVE The Beatles!! LOTS of Fantastic songs to be enjoyed. Lots of songs (Albums) that I listen to on a fairly regular basis. I'd go Crazy if I could never hear their music again. It is still listened to all over the world by hundreds of millions of people - they put out alot of Gr8 songs during their relatively short time, but I feel that alot of the music they made is Timeless, & will continue 2B enjoyed by many People for a long time to come. I plan on it for myself, & My Kids (Willingly - LOL!!) do too!! Peace!!
The Beatles are underrated.
The Beatles are underrated, only because it's impossible to say how much influence they had on other bands and musicians and on doing music in studios.
@@michaelbarat3212 Other performers and music industry pros will tell you how much influence they had on the business.
No they definitely aren’t People like you overwrite them the Beatles have no good songs or music don’t people that like them are baby boomers specifically white ones
@@michaelbarat3212 wrong this is all so stupid to say They did it influence nobody their music isn’t good no modern artist sites them as influence and spoiler rock music and bands have been dead since the 80s get over it
@@The_king567 Alright thanks for clearing that up. Have a good weekend.
There will never be another fuckin' band like them... ever! It isn't possible.
Yep, just like there will never be a band like Led, Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd etc.
@PaulGraham-ts7qd
Yes, especially Zeppelin.
Pete Best made around $10m from royalties when the Beatles released their anthology in the 90s, so I think he is fine with the museum 🤓
He made a movie too, he is really cashing in on what he barely got to be a part of.
I think Lennon had that extra intangible "it". That was the genius spark and McCartney was a diligent tunesmith and hardworking with his own genius moments who would drag Lennon out of bed to " go to work" This created a magical partnership that was pure gold, especially between 62 and 66. They sort of went their own ways a bit after that. They were magical! Harrison appeared towards their finale with some of their best songs. Wonderful phenomenon.
I feel like you're slightly underselling Paul's gift. He also had that "it" thing.
It may be the best example of the right people in the right place at the right time
@@harold3165 He did eventually, but only after he saw Lennon’s genius, and worked his ass off for it. Lennon had a sort of natural spark, which is also why he was lazy. Mccartney and Lennon needed each other.
@@TheAlibabatree Paul was the actual genius in the true sense, literaly wrote songs in his sleep. Lennon worked his ass off after seeing Mccartney too, and he has said that songs came easier to Paul than him.
You just made up some bullshit about him "seeing" Lennon and becoming one, when it's widely recorded he started writing songs before he ever met Lennon.
@@xxyyzz9791 Calm down. These people are not your relatives.
Also, George Martin would disagree with your assessment.
They quite litterally made the music industry what it is today.
Our idea of what an artist or band is today is tied directly to the beatles. I truly believe music would be years in the past creatively if it wasnt for them.
Nobody knew how to prepare a stadium for a band because it never happens before. There was no need.
@@manuelsw2699exactly, and Singles werent even a thing till the beatles. And most big names performed covers, they created our idea of a singer songwriter and band
I always tell my wife this because she doesn't know why the Beatles were so worshipped. I said imagine music like Doo Doo Wap then suddenly changed into Yellow Submarine or Come Together. That's an insane transition all within 5 years in the 60s
most quantity of quality ever
Most people who make this argument only have a very surface knowledge of their catalogue. Sure, if you only listen to the songs you hear on the radio or a greatest hits playlist, I could maybe see it, but their deeper cuts are a fucking revelation and Revolver was so far ahead of its fucking time it’s insane.
Great point. That's very true.
Yep, many of the Beatles' best songs weren't even released singles. Same goes for McCartney's solo songs.
As a lover of classical music very familiar with the best of best of Bach and Beethoven, the Beatles never stop amazing me with their genius. They were transcendent musicians.
Leonard Bernstein was a fan and he was no slouch. Check out Howard Goodall's analysis.
You’re actually liking George Martin and his direct influence on all prolific Beatles albums
You think "I want to hold your hand" is genius?
@@meciocio "Oh yeah, I, find it genius." Look, it's a simple adolescent love song that's still pleasurably stuck in my--and probably your--head after 60 years. It's just one of 50 of incredible variety and range, and they got more and more complex as they grew. There are all kinds of creative genius--some for everyman, some for the elite--and the Beatles captured everyone on Earth. Merry Christmas🌲
@@meciocio And since I mentioned the Bs, a lot of their greatest works are simple melodies and folk songs--just like I Want to Hold Your Hand--dressed up in elaborate clothing.
fell in love with them in 2015 as a 20 year old, they are incredible, the beatles during that 1965-1967 are probably the greatest band of all time
Please Please Me
A Hard Day's Night
Help!
Rubber Soul
Revolver
Sgt Pepper
Magical Mystery Tour
The White Album
Abbey Road
are some of the best albums of all time
I've noticed that most people who think the Beatles are overrated can't even name five of their songs.
And a lot of Beatles haters don't even know that a particular classic song is a Beatles song.
Beatles overrated?, sure. Lets see who's talked about today 20 years from now. Not many but, i bet the Beatles still will be. Lol!
I would love to be able to listen to each Beatles album for the first time, within the context and perspective of when they were released. Same thing with Hendrix! Had to be an amazing time for a music lover!
It was.
It was thrilling and indescribable for a music lover. I was vaccinated with a phonograph needle. I was 12 when the Beatles appeared on Sullivan. I'm grateful to be born at the best moment in history.
In England before The Beatles we had Cliff Richard (the last of the mysteries), so you've got to give the band praise just for that.
They were great. Also, they had whole orchestras and creative producers and engineers and were generous or opportunist enough to explore the new worlds and share this experience with other musicians. To think it was just four guys is to not think. Was thrilled to see Sir Paul rocking glasto.
Still got it.
True but people were blind for the whole fanatism, they were a lot of creative people around them
@@angelicaquirarte You can say that about any musician or group. especially today where the music is so corporate controlled its a joke to even call it creativity.
Got to keep it real and acknowledge the guys that created the 12 bar blues and the Pentatonic scales. Without this where would any band be?
@@tallpaul69 cudos to G- d for creating the universe ! for real
Personally, I adore the Beatles. I have no issue with people not liking their music but to say they are overrated is nonsense, and just shows that the person saying it is completely ignorant of their cultural impact.
It's such a shame people find it difficult to appreciate older music. I used to feel exactly the same when hearing certain songs, it's hard to fit Beatles songs in a playlist let's just put it like that lol. But.. certain songs always stuck out e.g. here comes the sun, hey Jude, and then over time I discovered blackbird and while my guitar gently weeks, and then one day I was really depressed bordering on suicidal and then I heard "A day in the life" for the first time and it made me cry and practically changed my life if you allow me to be a bit melodramatic.
Now the Beatles hands down are the best band in the world in my eyes. I almost want to shake people, slap them in the face and tell them to go listen to the Beatles because their songs are timeless when you really feel them and I realised they have never been more relevant in 2022. Most things were going through The Beatles have covered in one way or another. They truly are genius and anyone who says otherwise are fools quite frankly.
Nah they are not the best band ever and they aren’t Relevant today when the baby boomers die off the Beatles will die which is a good thing there music is all dog shit they have no good songs
I and my sister lived through it. I'm 73 now. She's passed away, but was the quintessential 'Beatlemaniac'. We saw them in concert twice in Chicago. 'Give Peace a Chance' sparked a movement to end our involvement in Vietnam, and ushered in flower power and peace until 9-11. ABBA had an impact in Europe, however the Lennon / McCartney Duo literally changed the world.
@@neilmccann5826 this is such a baby boomer comment no the Beatles didn’t change shit and never will and they didn’t start nothing about Vietnam and no Paul and John didn’t change the world they wrote shit songs that need to be purged from the world
The Beatles can never be overrated. It’s just that the tik Tok gen are all over it now that pisses people off
Exactly! I'm Gen X and i have been over the Beatles since the 80's! Couldnt care less & seeing all these people besides themselves arguing for THEIR preference, like it is important is simply hysterical!
@@inconnu4961 It's funny you say that becouse I see countless videos about the beatles and their young fans on TikTok.
Nah they are definitely overrated they have no good songs or anything they didn’t change anything that’s just stupid baby boomers
@@wmfedricks they don’t have younger fans
Chord progressions up to the early 60s was like the box of 6 crayons you got at 5 years old. They turned that box of 6 crayons into the box of '64 crayons. They took pop/rock music down a path that practically everyone else followed. Only rivaled by Motown & The Beach Boys. Most people who dislike the Beatles love a band that was clearly influenced/inspired by the Beatles.
The best way to get how great the Beatles were is to TH-cam the video about the #1 song of every month of the 1960s. It still sounds like 50s music for the most part until 1964. That's where you hear a very distinctive chapter change. After '64, ALL of the music sounds different than 1963 and before.
Many of their "innovative, new" chord progressions were just recycled from the old days, jazz pop from the 40s and whatnot.
I don't know how true or untrue this statement is. I just put it here to see how other folks feel about it.
@@mikec6733 people really want to think the beatles invented music because they are a cultural icon that represents an identity for baby boomers. The great classical composers were doing things that the beatles could barely even imagine
@@mikec6733 they used sophisticated chords in previously unused sequences. That's the whole point. They BROKE the cycle of recycled chord progressions which are infinite. Changing time signature mid-song, using instruments not previously heard in pop songs, overlapping what key a song is played in, using drums to emphasize rather than just keep the beat(A Day In A Life), starting a song with the chorus instead of a verse(She Loves You), and so many other things we take for granted that they did first. They also never used the same formula for a song. Most well known musicians have some songs that sound alike. The Beatles didn't. That's what made them unique. Why accuse the band that stopped everyone from playing recycled formulas of playing recycled formulas. That's like accusing Muhammad Ali of not marketing himself.
@@TheGiantMidget people really want to think The Beatles were so inventive because they were doing things previously unthought of. Saying "Boomer" indicates that you're too young to be in position to have a say worth taking seriously(no offense). If you understand music history and cultural chronology then you really couldn't deny the impact these guys had on Western Culture. Folks make a big deal because they were a big deal.
@@kingcassius2586 I agree. I just threw out the comment to see responses.
I love how he just made Neil Aspinall an Italian 🤣
LOL. He must have confused Aspinall with Spinelli. (Victor Spinelli was an actor who played in A Hard Day's Night).
No, Beatles took inspiration from a few artists that changed the world not just musically but culturally and the Beatles did it again, you can’t dismiss the genius of the Beatles.
My son, now 17, has been a huge Beatles fan for at least three years. He knows their stuff much better than me. He is a musician..piano and guitar.
The quick answer is no: the beatles are not overrated, and could never be. They inspired artists to be more expressive and sincere in their music during a time when music was anything but. wanna know how good the beatles are, listen to anything released before 1966, and then listen to anything afterward, you should spot the line the sand, the imprint of how the beatles revolutionised good taste.
Then why was music like Chuck Berry so much better than the corny boy band songs the Beatles made? They weren't even good until they started doing drugs lol
Simple verses in Beatles songs have inspired entire genres of music. That can't be overrated that's rated asf
Glad to hear that Bill has some perspective on the Fab Four and some insight into what actually matters when it comes to evaluating someone's musical expression. But it really comes down to the individual songs. In that light some Beatles songs will be in songbooks going forward into the future as long as there is civilization. That's the bottom line.
right on. even when the recordings will one day sound ancient... people cover good songs forever
Nah that’s the Stupidest thing I’ve ever read in my life everything you said it was just stupid and wrong nothing The Beatles dead was special
@@ClintLock1 that won’t Happen none of their songs or albums will be remembered as good because they’re all shit
Yeah, I was afraid he was just going to repeat his wife's opinion.
@@JohnSmith-hw1vv Right. I can't see Burr in the same light since his marriage. I agree with Anthony Cumia, that his wife has "ruined his comedy..." Sad.
I grew up with The Beatles and one of the things people don’t realize is how awful music was. In fact in 1963 the media didn’t know how to call the group.
Back in the day, there was a good looking guy who had songwriters, arrangers, producers, back up musicians, and here come The Beatles and they did it all, songwriters, vocals with 3 part harmonies, played their own instruments, etc..( except for production which they took over later on). Were they a vocal group, musicians playing songs, they didn’t know how to describe them.
Too bad we’re back to the songwriter, performer, studio musicians, etc.
The music was great before 1963,.
@@MovieGuy666 There was some good music pre-1964, but it was mostly solo acts or doo-wop type groups---a lot of Bobby Darin, Doris Day, Brenda Lee, Paul Anka, Neil Sedaka, Bobby Vee, The Platters, The Coasters, etc. Before the Beatles came on the scene, rock and roll music had suffered several scandals and other negative events, which diminished the genre in the minds of most of the public. Elvis had quit touring and was making bad movies. The Beatles revived the original '50s American rock and roll and put their own talents into it, and then they began writing their own songs which were more popular than most songs of the '50s.
Do a little digging and you’ll see the model of outside songwriters, studio musicians, and producers never really went away, nor is it more prominent today than it was before the Beatles. It still exists, but to a much smaller degree than back in the day-(the main exception is mainstream country music, which is still very much a “machine.”) I’d also say there are more “Jack of all Trades” types today than ever before (for reasons I could elaborate on in great detail, but for brevity’s sake I’ll stop here.)
Music before 1963 or '64 was great. Del Shannon, Link Wray & The Wraymen, Eddie Cochran, Sandy Nelson, Dick Dale, Ritchie Valens, The Ventures, The Kingsmen, Buddy Holly & the Crickets (in fact everyone except Pat Boone from the first wave '50s) The Trashmen, The Tornados, Wanda Jackson, Chris Montez, Hasil Adkins, The Beach Boys, I'll say it Chubby Checker, Roy Orbisons post sun record years, The Lively Ones, Bunker Hill (The Girl Can't Dance, if that's the only song you take from this that's okay with me), Jan & Dean, The Surfaris, and James Brown. I still love what The Beatles did for everyone though. Rock and roll and the garage bands immediately after were never the same even when they were still in the garage
The Beach Boys also arranged and composed their own songs, as did Bob Dylan, the Everly Brothers, Link Wray, Little Richard, Johnny Cash, Booker T and the MCs, and many many other great acts at that time that influenced the Beatles. I don’t know how this narrative came about that music was terrible before the Beatles, but it wasn’t. It was actually quite vibrant.
They aren't overrated. They were the most creative band ever.
@@jayclarke6671 Jimmy Page likes The Beatles... He made Lemon Song after a George Harrison comment
@@jayclarke6671 Led Zeppelin ripped the small faces and other artists. That said I do love zeppelin
Creative AND commercial. It's very hard to do. Let's just say they are not underrated.
George Martin, in my opinion, was the fifth Beatle. Without him they wouldn’t have achieved what they did, but let’s be clear, he was the producer, not the writer. He listened to Paul’s, John’s, and George’s ideas/concepts and worked with them to craft the finished product. He made suggestions but it was the Beatles who decided what would be recorded and released.
Funkadelic all day over beatles
The day before The Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan for the first time, I could care less if I ever learned how to play an instrument. And then that Sunday night in February 1964 came ... we were eating dinner at the time. Well, I wasn't -- my eyes were homed in on the TV across the room.
The next day, and every day thereafter, I bothered my parents for a guitar -- until Christmas of '64, when it arrived. So I blame The Beatles for getting me into this music biz.
Furthermore, the release of a Beatles album meant playing that sucker with the speakers up against your head if necessary, so that you'd catch every nuance of the new batch of tunes. A lot of research was done in garages across the country as we tried to duplicate some of the sounds on the record -- sounds that we now know were not possible with the equipment on hand.
Here's the big difference I would like to make, and I don't care who gets mad over it:
As a group, The Beatles were unstoppable -- and the imitators couldn't hold a candle to them.
As solo artists ...? Sure, they had their hits, but you could hear how much the other three were contributing to the group when they were no longer there, and it was glaringly obvious.
Still is.
Well considering a lot of bands are considered legendary off of 1 or 2 greats albums and they had like 14 in the 7 years as a band, no they are not overrated.
Yeah, the term "one hit wonder" exists for a reason.
Yes they are definitely overrated dude
UNDERRATED!! The tunes are so great. I started listening to them only a few years ago and can't believe how awesome their songs are. 50 years or whatever it is they still have so many great songs. I guess if you don't like melodies and only enjoy hip-hop then you won't like them. Thanks
To me, the bottom line has always been this. You may not like the Beatles, your favourite artist did. As did their favourite artist. That alone is enough to make them an undeniable staple in the history of music.
Nope, my favorite artists did NOT, and neither did their favorite artists. Go home... You're drunk, max!
If people grow up listening to a certain genre of music they can get locked into that as "normal." However, if they grow as musical connoisseurs, they can branch out and discover other genres from different times--and enjoy all that music has to offer. That's the best place to be.
The best song writers in the world . Their fame is well deserved
My brother also tries to use Yellow submarine to dismiss the Beatles. It was a purposeful novelty song.
Yes, as were "Octopus's Garden," "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?", "Rocky Raccoon," "Her Majesty," and a few others. Many artists put out novelty songs, such as Elton John's "Crocodile Rock." But that one and "Yellow Submarine" became all-time classics. "Yellow Submarine" reached #2 on the charts with the band's #4 singer on lead. Tell your brother that little factoid.
Nah it’s a shit album they have no good songs or music get over it
She Loves You Yeah Yeah Yeah is a masterpiece
I was so pissed off when they destroyed 'The Cavern' in Liverpool and constructed a parking garage.
It is typical of milenialls and gen z to look down on old institutions and dump on them just to get likes.. Better to ignore such attention seeking statements.
Beatles will remain one of the best bands ever
The movie Yellow Submarine, while a riff on The Beatles image, is a work of brilliance.
You can say almost anything super successful is overrated, but I think the Beatles are one of the few that can actually back up the accolades. You can dislike the music all you want but there's no denying their impact.
Anyone young today who trashes the Beatles - it’s not their fault. Listen to the shit that’s out now! Anyone who wasn’t there -their opinion is completely worthless as is most of the shit they listen to.
When Hey Jude came out as a single and was played for the gurdt time on the radio, many factories stopped production to listen, that's how massively influencebyisl they were.
When I was in the 7th grade in 1968, my junior high school in Montgomery, Alabama had a magazine drive. The kids who sold x number of subscriptions got to go to a little party in the lunchroom. There were three 9th graders there playing music--two girls and a boy. The only song I remember them playing was "Hey Jude," and that was while that song was still a hit record. I remember thinking how awesome it was that those kids, just two years older than me at 15 or 16, could learn and play that song. I didn't know who the boy who played the guitar and sang lead was. Fast forward about eight years, to 1976, when I was 21 years old. I began hearing about a rock band called Styx that included a guy from our hometown. The guy's name was Tommy Shaw. He's still leading Styx and playing rock music to this day at age 69.
So many firsts were done by the Beatles. They (and their producer) forwarded the technology and imagination of studio music. You can hate their music or think it's no good, but you're music wouldn't be at the same level without them.
Nah u mean rock music What does been dead since the 80s no modern artist cares about the Beatles
@@The_king567 Totally wrong
@@davidcollins1154 nope I’m right
I went to that museum, and - as a Beatles fan - I really loved it. I went into the old version also, when I was a kid, 20 years ago. That one was fun too, but they've really improved the museum.
BUT - as a Beatles fan - The Beatles are definitely overrated by many. They are excellent, obviously, possibly my favourite band of all time. And musical geniuses as well!
But they didn't invent heavy metal, double albums, concept albums, psychedelia etc.
They were at the forefront but they were also influenced by their contemporaries s.a. Dylan, Brian Wilson, The Byrds and also by people like Beethoven for that matter.
This is a fantastic comment! if you LOVE the beatles, love them! Nothing wrong with that! if you THINK they are overrated, you are right! if you THINK they are underrated, you are still right! But if someone else holds a different opinion than you, both people are right in their eyes! just enjoy what you enjoy and stop trying to foist it upon others (not suggesting you are doing this personally)!
"The Beatles" opened the door to all that followed.
It’s fine to not like the Beatles but to ignore the objective fact that they redefined popular culture in the twentieth century is manifestly absurd. It’s like saying the gun didn’t change warfare or the automobile hasn’t changed society. It’s just a wilfully ignorant statement to claim that they are overrated.
I think people equate overrated with bad or completely undeserved which maybe some people use the word to mean those things but I try to stick to the true meaning of simply this thing is rated rated or beloved more than perhaps the thing has earned that love. The Beatles were and still to a lesser extent are HUGE. But to be fair I don’t think anything made by man save for perhaps the pillars of civilization deserve as much praise as the Beatles. So yes I do think they’re overrated however I don’t think they’re hacks or something their impact is still amazing
Never met a person that is familiar with their entire work and that thinks that they are overrated. I’ve met a LOT of people who think that they are in fact overrated and who really only know a couple of their tunes and have this black&white image of them, singing in unison while some funny looking white girls are screaming like crazy. What almost all of those people do not know is that there is another phase of this band that comes after the “boy band” phase in which they displayed what goes down as the greatest songwriting streak in the history of modern music.
I know what you mean, but i have to disagree with the end of your comment. I play many instruments fairly well and love their early stuff and can't stand their later stuff. We all like what we like and there are plenty of reasons for it. There are too many underrated bands when comparing to The Beatles, but it doesn't change that they too were underrated in ways.
I grew up in the 2000’s, The Beatles are a religious expert to me. Good music is good music, period. Modern music sucks. The values and principles are dark and shallow, empty… and the music itself RARELY makes up for it.
Give your kids The Beatles.
AM radio played every track on every LP. Often their charts had the LP at #1 on both LP and Singles charts.
It is impossible to imagine for those who weren't there how huge they were, the extent of their impact on EVERYTHNIG.
The Beatles are the greatest band to ever do it.
No! They are the best band ever. And most influential. I’m a musician trust me they are the best.
@@Thepoweroftheriffcompelsme You are clearly a better musician than him because you agree with me! LOL What a farce this entire 'argument' is! You are so right though! These people are nuts for trying to convince others in the way that they do!
Many musicians hate them.. I'm a musician too.. it's meaningless. I'm better than everyone, alone. Still meaningless.
A musician would not say this!
I like that Bill apparently thinks to be alive when Beethoven "came out" meant automatically having typhoid fever.
Yeah, everyone was walking around with yellow oozing blisters on their faces.
@@SlickArmor lol. But Beethoven made it suck less!
They aren't my favorite band of all time and they aren't the greatest live act of all time but they are the greatest band of all time and the most important.
They basically were like the original boy band. They could have just written Please Please Me over and over and gotten caught up with their own popularity and fame and screaming girls but they decided to evolve as artists.
The sheer amount of very high quality music they put out in less than a decade...really closer to 7 or 8 years... will never, ever come close to being topped. Nor will their importance and what they meant to society. Period. Paragraph.
Anyone who thinks the Beatles are overrated needs to list their 5 favourite artists and then ask themselves how those will be viewed 50 years after their peak period. There are some legendary classic rock bands like Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Black Sabbath and AC/DC whose music has stood the test of time very nicely. I can't think of too many popular bands from the 80's and 90's whose music still sounds as good today as it did back then... U2, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Prince, R.E.M., Guns N Roses, Metallica, Faith No More, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Oasis, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Linking Park... I don't think any of their music holds up as well as the 60's & 70's legends.
One thing is for certain... there has never been a band who had as much universal appeal as The Beatles - across all generations, old people, young people, male, female. I doubt we will see many kids in the 2050's or 2060's discovering & loving the songs made by Drake, Ed Sheeran, Dua Lipa, Adele, Taylor Swift or Billie Eilish. I suppose they're all pop stars.. Maybe some people years from now will still like Radiohead, Coldplay, Arctic Monkeys, The Weeknd and Kendrick Lamar...
I think the problem today is that the "mainstream" (the charts, Grammys, etc) have become hijacked by the major corporations and used to push their own product. The true artists and the best bands get less mainstream exposure nowadays. There seems to be a wider chasm today between pop music in the Top 40 and everything else.
Anyone with any musical taste knows that the Beatles will never be equalled. The quality of their music and global influence will never be matched.
Anyone with even half a brain that still functions knows you are wrong! LOL
@@inconnu4961 Who do you think is better?
@@inconnu4961 Spoken like a young person who wasn't alive during Beatlemania.
"Overrated" is a meaningless term people throw out, so they can sound more intelligent than they actually are.
underrated comment.
Heres a couple facts about the Beatles. No other band or artist has ever changed the world more than the Beatles. No other band or artist has sold as many records. No other band or artist has written so many hits as the beatles.
And they basicly did ALL in 7 years!!!!
No, the beatles can NEVER be overrated. They are the best band ever. All the members have been inducted to the rock n roll hall of fame TWICE.
No they are not over rated because their music influences other music.
When Nirvana was recording never mind, Kurt Wanted a more grunge, less produced sound but the producer wanted him to double track his vocals to produce something more clean and unique. Kurt said no, his producer the. Explained “well John Lennon did the same thing” and then Kurt agreed and they recorded an album that changed the course of music.
So it’s not just about the music itself, but what the music inspires, just how the blues inspired bands like the Beatles and Led Zeppelin
I personally love the Beatles. Listen to “here, there and everywhere” and try to tell me that’s not a glorious song. Paul McCartney wrote that by John lennons pool while he waited for him to wake up.
That’s pure talent
They did Tomorrow Never Knows, that alone makes them GREAT .
Amen
No, Beatles are not overrated. Neither is Radiohead or Led Zeppelin.
The beatles are in a different stratosphere compared to the other two
I was raised in Ayrshire Scotland, growing up in the 1960s. I remember my cousin Sheena getting a new Beatles record and having a listening party with her girlfriends. They'd let me hang out with them and listen to the music. Later I would bring her Blues records from America that were unavailable in Scotland.
George Harrison learned to play American pop songs in the '50s by listening to Radio Luxembourg late at night and writing the lyrics down on a steno pad. He would then figure out the key and the chords.
Thanks for this bill because I remember when I was 19 in 1990 and I said the most foolish statement of all time that being the Beatles are overrated. Until I began to realize how they changed the face of recording. How they changed just the idea that it was a band and not Johnny and the silver Beatles, how they changed the idea that an artist would write their own songs. These are just a few examples of how they changed the face of music forever. I was in a band 10 years ago and the lead guitarist said to me and the drummer who are both huge beetles fans and understand how impactful the Beatles were, he said I don't like the Beatles they're not a very good band. We asked why? He came out with the most absurd statement of all time. He said because they don't have a good lead guitarist. We both said George harrison? We then stated don't ever say that again just stop talking about the Beatles. Just stop
And you guys didn't stomp his ass?
Every great rock guitarist will tell you that George was one of the best. George created all of those classic intros to songs like Day Tripper etc.
@@randyjordan5521 yes. Exactly why we told him to just stop. :) This guy if it wasn't David gilmour or Mark knopfler they weren't a good guitarist anyway in his mind. Of course both those guys are great as well. But really George Harrison. The guitar solo in something so simple and yet not quite as simple as it sounds to grab that nuance
Everybody who doesn't think the Beatles were very good or influential should watch the documentary "How The Beatles Changed The World."
The Beatles don’t have any good songs or anything it’s just shorty baby boomer music
What's with everybody hating on Yellow Submarine. That's one of my fave of their songs? What's the deal?
Anybody who says they are overrated have only heard of hey Jude help I wanna hold your hand n the hits but if u get into the b sides with a fat blunt forget about it
Very true. Its easy to say any band is overrated when you can only name 5 of there 200 songs.
@@col.nugget1524 Or if you're young and ignorant.
I answered people saying this by replying 'have yoy heard in my life and blackbird?' I mean, they may not like those songs anyway but they say no almost every time 😂
The Beatles phenomenon was the tip of the pop culture/youth revolution spear. It was like in the Wizard Of Oz; a regular, tired, dirty, old world & then BAM! It’s a fantasy world in COLOR! That’s a pretty good metaphor for the effect the Beatles had on an international level.
Na just some people dont understand how these people did something that most of us cant even imagine how to do half of it. They are not over rated they are amazing people in history.
There are thousands of amazing people in history you have NEVER hear of and certainly arent worshipful, like this band!
Jeebus. People who post this attract the trolls who love to be contradictory and say, “I was never a fan” or worse, “I always preferred the George songs.” It’s stupid. Bill Burr is fine, he has his opinion and he expresses it well. Seems an OK guy. He gets it.
What he gets at is the context. Imagine never hearing Jimi Hendrix or the The Rolling Stones and then it just drops out of nowhere. Mind blowing.
I think they're more relevant now than ever, but that's just me.
The fact that we're still discussing and analyzing a band that broke up over fifty years ago says it all. I seriously doubt anyone will discuss any current recording artist in fifty years or even ten years from now.
😅Not overrated. They created entire genres of music that would never have happened. And they did it better.
Nah that’s cap and there Genre of music has been dead since the 80s stop spreading this bullshit propaganda you have no idea what you’re talking about
Can’t find a picture of that manakin/statue anywhere online
My girls and my Granddaughter like the Beatles, so I've done my job. Greatest band ever. Let's see if we're talking about the shit music today in 60 years. They'll still be talking about The Beatles
@@jayclarke6671 If you don't like the Beatles, you are in a very tiny minority. Virtually every pop/rock musician you like will tell you that the Beatles were the greatest in history.
That comment about having to block out everything that came after is spot on! I think you have to consider what came before a band, what was going on in their time, and then look at their direct influence on what came after
If anything, they are more impressive the more we learn
I'm going to do what Bill does and just talk out of me ass but the Beatles helped bring forth heavy metal, and revolutionized music in general, without them ever existing music would not be what it is today. The Beatles are the best God damn band to ever exist.
Yellow Submarine is written for kids. They could write strong songs in any genre... that's what made them special. There are some songs that aren't my favorite, but I understand why someone would like them. They also wrote hits for other people. Without the Beatles, there may be no Rolling Stones since they wrote their first hit.
Futurama was a guitar family of models for the English Based Company, Selmer Musical Instruments in the early '60s. Beloved by many Brits of the day, the earliest models were all said to have been made in Czechoslovakia by Delicia/Resonet & CSHN but by 1963 Hagstrom made some higher quality ones in Sweden. George Harrison was known to have used one for a time with The Beatles.
I love The Beatles and there are certain performers you are literally taking your reputation in your hands if you criticize. One of them is The Beatles. Even making a correct criticizm will render a poor slob a person non grata! And this at times can blind people to believing their heros can walk on water. But yes the Beatles indeed changed everything !
You don’t have to like something to recognise it’s impact. It’s called objectivity. Eg I hate ABBA but they are an amazing pop band
Exactly. But ABBA smacks
@@tylercoleman2104 Doh. I don’t have the slightest clue what they’re on about and I don’t wanna know 😅
Yeah, it’s easy to hate em for their tacky aesthetic but it’s some of the most tightly crafted shit I ever heard. Fuck, now I want to listen to ABBA
If you don't like ABBA, you are a Communist. :-)
Wiki: In 1961 and 1962, Neil Aspinall had become good friends with Pete Best and subsequently rented a room in the house where Best lived with his parents. During one of the extended business trips of Best's stepfather, the 19-year-old Aspinall became romantically involved with Best's mother, Mona Best, who was 17 years his senior. As a result, during this period, Aspinall fathered a child by Mona: Vincent "Roag" Best. Roag Best was born in late July 1962, and just three weeks later, on 16 August 1962, Best was dismissed from the Beatles.
...pronounced as the word 'rogue'
Went from “I want to hold your hand”
1960s parents: OMG
To WAP
It only took 60 years of repression, hey now!
WAP is really just a return to dirty R&B lyrics from the 30's - 50's.
The movie Walk Hard encapsulates this decline. Dewey Cox starts out with "Take My Hand", and it gets called the devil's music. By the end of the movie, rappers are sampling his song "Walk Hard" to imply that a woman makes their dicks hard.
Hey Bill, you made some great points. You were correct to talk about quarterbacks from the sixties as opposed to today. The Beatles were changing the way rock and roll was written, and it's just that the current generations have always had music the way it is. They don't realize how the Beatles inspired my whole generation to play music (boomers). The Beatles even crossed over to country music and inspired that music as well. I heard Richard Starkey say in an interview that if the Beatles hadn't been in existence then it would have been someone else who changed music,so I agree with that. I expect someone to come along and get rock and roll started back again,I hope it's in my lifetime. Thanks friend
I think you'll find with most music and bands is that if you listen to the same thing over and over again, it gets a little tiring and the novelty wears off. I try not to listen to the same thing all the time because I want to be able to enjoy all my music when I'm retired. With the Beatles, you don't want to listen to them every day. Its great music, but you also want to keep it great. Its almost like porn and sex. You don't want too much of it.
Exactly! Unfortunately, when one is young & dumb you dont know this! its not until it happens to you that you figure out, for yourself, that you can over-indulge! For many of us, thats what the Beatles became!