Faceting a garden rock.
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- Hello and welcome. My name is Cliff and I'm an Australian gem cutter. This a tuition video aimed at the beginner. Sometimes we need to walk before we can run. This video teaches basic faceting without ruining a precious gem. No background music is included as sound is an important part of the faceting process. If you enjoy my videos and wish to support a small independent channel, plus receive extra benefits such as tuition and guidance then become a patron (link below). Best Wishes Cliff
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Last summer I saw a flash in my driveway and being a collector of mineral specimens and gemstones, I stopped to look. We here in Indiana have tons of calcite and quartz, and many other semi precious stones in our "worthless" gravel😏 ..so I'm always looking. I found the most perfect iron pyrite point had grown in that little rock. A nice small cube that went clear through and presented on both sides. I pocketed my treasure and it's a valued part of my collection. fools gold my eye😁
You may have some nice gems and minerals in your driveway. It's amazing the type of natural gems people find on their own properties.
@@VintageTimeGems I'm always looking✨
that sounds like a dream
Thanks mate, I'm into rock tumbling and never really thought about what it takes to cut gems like this. Very interesting. Of course now I want to buy a machine and make all my round rocks into polyhedrons !
Glad you enjoyed it
The first four facets are the beginning of most gemstones that are faceted. If you can develop the ability to do that, you can expand from there. I gave my faceting machine and all the associated gear to my grandson last year, but that is how I started, with a pamphlet of basic cuts, a faceting machine and practice. Lots of laps, drive belts and a bunch of rough and I developed a collection of gems and a talent that I passed on to future generations.
Nothing is easy...but if your curious and hard working u can acheive and create wonders...tks Mate for taking the time ...
Hi from Canada Cliff. Have zero interest in cutting stones, too many other things already on the go. That said, saw your video and thought "I know nothing about this subject." Well done and thanks. Also thought it was great to be practicing on throw away stones, especially for any beginners. I learned something new!
Thanks and welcome
Nicely done, Cliff. Basic stuff for someone without a mentor is very valuable. Thanks!!!
Thanks John...
Thank you. I've been trying to get my husband into doing something like this. This is perfect to show him how easy it can be.
Facet-nating
Thanks Patrick, that’s some good information there. I’m keen to see what else you can demonstrate for us beginners out here.
Thank you for doing a begainers show your a wonderful teacher. Thank you again !!! 😁😁😀😁😀😁😀😁😀😁😚😙😘😘😍😍😍
Its 2am and i read this as face timing a garden rock, still was not disappointed
Thanks
Can you do more like this as i am scared of screwing up the more complex designs
Yes I could do future videos like this...Cheers
@@VintageTimeGems Awesome. Thank you so much. I too am working on my first stone, and think I was a bit to ambitious =/
I totally agree with this request! I would also appreciate a “beginners series”. Thank you for taking the time to share with us.
I agree with these guys. More videos please! I understand how to do this but I like the visual. I’ll be following you!
Great. I was lucky enough to have a mentor. Even so this was a great tutorial. A great way to take away some of the hesitations for getting started. Loved that it was a garden stone. This could be a way to do a practice run on a new design with out wasting rough. I tend to do practice runs on new designs to get a feel for them before doing it on expensive rough.
Thank you Cliff.
Quartz garden stones would be a perfect way to test cut....That's how I tested out eye designs before I had GCS.
Thank you very much very very helpful, I will be starting my faceting course in Sri Lanka very soon .
Been waiting for this video my whole life
Thanks Zane.
no intrest into getting into this but showed up on my suggested thought i would look and gotta say awesome job showing people how easy it can be to get into this learning with common rocks
Yes this video gives people the basic idea how a gem is cut.
I've never seen faceting before, and sitting here watching you, it occured to me what ancient people had to do to carve gems and stones. Mind boggling...
I hope you enjoyed the video. Cheers
I've often thought that some "ordinary" garden stones would look interesting if faceted and polished.
I rock tumble and I just use stones from UK beaches - admittedly deposited by ice age glacial movement so there's quite a variety, but not any banded agates etc. I find them attractive.
I want to facet some now I've seen this.
they're fun as heck looking.
Hi Cliff, that was an interesting video. I always thought it had to be gem material to be cut and didn't think you could cut a garden rock. Thank you for this information video for beginners.
Totally a beginners video
Weird, but somehow brilliant idea.
Thank you
No matter how inexperienced or experienced you are, it is important to review the basics. I love watching you facet. You always teach me something.
Hi Mineral Mutt, thanks. This video is as basic as it gets. Just using a small stone is a good way to get the idea of how to cut basic facet. I have used them to test a design also. Cheers
Garden rocks... 1/4 of my garden rocks are flint. Can I start with that?
You may get a few sparks. Lots of water would be useful.
Living near the beach, I find nice rocks. I turn them to guitar picks by hand. That is why this title is interesting and looking forward to see the next.
Thank you
Do you play rock music?
@@blethigg9320 Rock metal and classical music solos arpeggios etc. I had one hard plastic pick but stone has a nice tune. I like it and advice.
Try using jade, it makes really nice picks especially if you can slice them thin.👍 I cut mine about 1-2 mm thick.
Half the rocks in my yard are pinkish quartz I think. Found a couple I think would look good as gems but idk what they are
Cliff this is by far the best visual aid to help beginners. I now can actually "see" the facets! Thank you for doing this tutorial. Brilliant idea using a rock!!
Thanks...Just a small rock is a great way to learn basics. Cheers
I'm actually hand faceting a piece of anthracite while watching this
Great Video . Thank You Cliff ! I am a New Faceter. Still waiting for my Machine to come in the Post. I am from the USA so I bought a Facetron . I do not have access to a mentor and Faceting classes are too expensive and to far away . I am pretty good at picking things up with videos and books. Been practicing shaping stones glued to a stick on a grinding wheel attached to a grinder but its just free hand and the best I have gotten are flat or cabochon shapes. I am learning how to read diagrams as well. Jeff Graham is my Favorite Gem Artist .
Happy faceting Bunnie.
Totally done this the first time I got my first faceting machine long ago. Good practice but I ruined my tin wheel because the stone I choose crumbled. Should've used granite and not random rocks...
Such a great video! Thank you for sharing your skills and ideas!
I am a hobbyist rock shaper and typically work with garden rocks, but the idea of faceting one to the polished finish! SO AWESOME!
Thanks
Wow my dear...perfect faceting...❤
Thank you
Thanks for the video. my machine should be arriving at the beginning of 2021. After watching this I am going to start on some really generic rocks I have laying about and whatever I can find outside. With that thought, I have been through school for welding and culinary. In those you practice basics every day before you can move onto better materials or ingredients. What kind of curriculum would you suggest? Is there one available? What cuts would you suggest working on first? What would you progress to after that?
All the best with faceting. I would download a competition pdf fom the Gemkhana site and start faceting the Junior design. Cheers Cliff
WOW cool work, mate. Might not be expensive but it has WOW factor there. 👌👍
Thank you
Thats nice, thankyou ! I am a starting faceter and i do not have a mentor ( except for a lady that charges 150$per hour...which i don't the funds for being a starting facter !)
Thanks Kevin
I was wondering if you could make dnd dice with faceting like this
Yes dice could be faceted.
@@VintageTimeGems Thanks for the reply! Been watching your channel for awhile, and recently got into dice making, was thinking about how cool it would be to make granite dice or something of the sort.
MORE!!!
I don’t want to sound rude. This is really just a “I don’t understand” question. Is the skill mostly in knowing how to set the cutting arm? I’ve never cut gems before so I don’t know.
The common stone is actually a pretty good idea for a novice though. I was actually going to attack my crystal collection... now I can same my pretties for more experienced cutting.
Yes selecting the correct angle on the cutting arm determines the angle. The a wheel with slots/teeth selects an individual facet cut at the angle. That's the basic, but there is a lot more to it than that.
and maybe having a good feeling on where to place the facets might help, too. ;)
what great idea to cut pretty stones for your wifes garden, that oughta get a man a few extra sandwichs and beers
Thank you
Haha
Great videos! I live in Victoria and would like to get a faceting machine. Do you recommend any made in Australia?
Really nice video. Glad to see some instruction on how things are done with details added. Would love to see something like this from start to finish. The angles and everything. I appreciate the time and effort you put into this video.
Thanks Douglas
Could you make some videos for those of us who can't afford a faceting machine? Would this be possible with a rotary tool, maybe with the addition of an angle grinder? I'm unfortunately on disability and so can't afford the proper equipment, though I'm exceptionally interested in learning these techniques.
You can use wet and dry sandpaper and cut gems by hand. There are videos on youtube explaining how to do that. Cheers
Thank you for being clear and concise, and straight to the point! And for not yammering on about unrelated issues! God some videos are so tedious! And thanks for not playing background music! I appreciate you!
Hi. I am writing to you from India. Thank you for this video. I had requested a video of this type only a few days ago, and there it is. Great. Looking forward to the other videos in this series. Maybe you can intersperse one such video at, say, monthly intervals. I shall certainly be looking forward to them. Thank you once again Guruji.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this video! I very much would like to start faceting, so I am looking into equipment. What is the model you use or what model would you recommend for someone just getting into it? I use a cabking, by the way...so I have some knowledge of cutting...but faceting is a whole other world.
Thanks, in advance, for the advice! Love all your videos!
I have a facetstar....The VL Ultratec sounds like a good machine to start with. Cheers
Can we get it polished just for the fun of it?
LOL....Yeah why not!
wow beautiful.
Awesome beginners video. One day when I get a machine, this will be the video to help with my first attempt.
I might add just in case you aren't aware, but the accelerator and curing agents are usually higher in VOC levels so respiratory exposure may be something to consider.
Thanks Cliff
Thanks for the tip. Cheers
i think a nicely faceted piece of granite or whatever would look really good in some jewelry
Thank you! I've had a nagging curiosity about this ever since briefly seeing someone facet diamonds years ago. This video is at the perfect level of introduction and very approachable.
Wow that was awesome, I always wanted to see how this one done.
Are these the usual numbers u r supposed to use?
And I just learned what a girdle was.
You can use different numbers. This was just a simple selection of opposing facets.
Neat....
how do you get the stone off of the metal with the overnight glue stuff???
Bye🤗
You should put a link in your description to the tools you use. I went to look for one because I’ve been thinking of getting the tools for a while.
Just landed in your video.
I purchased a faceting machine.
I’ll subscribe. 👍
thanks mate I just got a little 7 inch tile wet saw and a Vevor 180W faceting, jade polishing machine, but I need dop wax or some of your Starbond thick and spray? which do you suggest????
Where do u buy a machine like this?
And that brass stick, do they come w the machine?
You can buy machines from gem clubs or lapidary sites.
Hi, I bought Vevor Gem Faceting Machine Rock Polisher 1800rpm Gem Cutting Machine Jewelry Polisher as I live in the Pilbara Western Australia and have many crystals, rocks. But this machine doesn't have an operators manual so I have no idea where to start. Are you able to give me any ideas on where to start. I am a very enthusiastic rock collector and want to cut, shape and polish my beautiful finds. I was told the vevor was a good beginners all in one machine! Any help would be so appreciated!
Cool video, Cliff. I sat spellbound until the end.
Thanks Pete.
I love Faceting. More so than Cabauchoning gems. So I am interested in any little ‘nuances’, that I can adapt and make gems that I’m proud of.
brick is pretty soft/crumbly in my experience breaking rocks as a kid
would it be a good stand in for practicing with more brittle at softer gems?
have you ever played around with asphalt like a good chunk from the street. i tossed some in my rock polisher and it pretty much turned to powder... with a few oval results.
Baking soda, bicarbonate of soda, is another accelerator of super glue.
Súper .me gustaría ver todo el proceso .sería muy interesante verkohasta el final y ver el trabajo terminado . De ser posible montado en una prenda gracias
Hi first-time saw you doing this faceting,, I'm really interested but I'm looking online basic tools ill be needing
Nice little video, I am just starting out and I don't want to ruin a gem stone it took nature a billion years to make so I want to learn from stones I can find but trying to find a video where a plain rock is used was hard everyone seems to want to show off how good they are, the only issue I see here is a beginner is going to use a cheap faceting machine which adds a whole new problem to the mix which is what I am doing. I did some research on the problems with a 200 $ machine and after getting it its been several days of quality issue and poor assembly fixing and still not ready to do a first facet but watching this video inspires me.
hmm. I thought this would be about finding proper fracture lines for faceting via chisel (cutting), not grinding.
Hi, I'm not clear about the glue and accelerator, is it Cyanocrilate "Hot Glue", thanks.
Fantastic beginner faceting , we all got to start somewhere and any help is appreciated by those starting out like myself , thank you.
I really enjoyed the video . I only got an old Lee Lapidaries machine today ( in perfect condition) could you please do a short tutorial of the other side of your garden rock ( crown) change over of the dop and so on? Tia
Thanks for this. Building my own sort of gem cutter. Wasn’t sure how to start.
Thats freaken awesome thanks mate this will help me alot
Thank you
Fantastic! What a great way for a beginner to learn how to use their machine. I assume you could use other material like agate or rough quartz. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. Yes Agate and quartz would be fine.
Vintage Time Hey vintage great video mate. Will this work on ingneous or polymetamorphose metamorphic rocks? Their density is full on but some rocks I’ve got have a schist matrix with marble which would look fantastic if they could be polished. What do you think?..subbed btw 👍
@@cloudattack3279 Hi, You could facet them into shapes. All are soft in terms of mohs hardness. I doubt that any will polish well though.
Vintage Time Thank you for providing your time to respond. Makes sense. Cheers 🍻
Who watches this from failing faceting in Lost Ark with a bad rng...
Hi Cliff, I followed your advice about keeping it clean...I was using 100,000 dia. polish and I charged up my lap and on the second stone I already had a scratch, so I cleaned it with soap and water, charged it up and now it's fine...Thanks for making these videos as they are delightful, Happy Cutting,
Kim
Contamination is a huge issue while faceting. Keeping the work area and discs clean is important. Cheers
my friend your machine.is complicated ans6 slow
Is that a cd rack full of grindibg disks? That is epic if i am seeing it right.
A toast rack to the left and a Cd rack to the right.
@@VintageTimeGems ohhh i see , it is all set up for when you burn your toast and it dries out. Is it aranged by grit and blackness of said toast(or is it black diamond !? Its super hardened carbon formed in the extreme heat and pressure of the toaster... ) And does the corresponding cd get played when a grinding disk is chosen ? This is a cool idea . i actually have to get off my behind and polish some mineral specimans that i have gathered. In particular a nice chuck of marble that is bluegrey and salmon pink , with sort of a tiger stripe like pattern where both colors tranisition into one another and small black and silverish lines of mineralization following that pressure pattern.and an odd very random pocket of chalcopyrites showing on one side... I know it was kspar for the pink and plagioclase feldspar for the bluegrey.it was granitic rock at one point but has after a very long time ,has changed it into marble..sorry . i like minerals and elements and look for excuses to blab about them when i can.
Let's see you cut a stone on a bench grinder. ... Those tools cost more than my fly tying station. Tools and all.
Won't that rock damage your blades?
My dad wouldn’t have heard the end of this if I’d seen this video as a kid
I have some beautiful rocks that I'd love to make into necklace, bracelet and earrings. I have looked up how to do it. This is so cool... Thanks! I love collecting rocks. There are so many beautiful specimens out there.
You are so welcome!
This is so cool!
Thanks
No interest in cutting stones, but I still found this very interesting. I always have been a curious person and this was 15 minutes well spent.
Thanks.
Chalcedony faceting pls😁
The Translucent type would be good.
In my country have good translucent Chalcedony from Bengkulu Indonesia
How do you pick the indexes and angels ?
Thankyou this was just what i wanted to see as a beginner x
It is very helpfull Thanx
Very informative, just wondering what is meant by index?
The machine has a wheel with 96 notches cut into it. Each notch is called a index. Choosing the correct notch/index determines what facet you cut.
@@VintageTimeGems thank you. Im thinking of doing some cutting and grinding and your faceting tutorials are very helpful
Good
Thanks
thanks for that, have recently got a saphire mine and have picked up a faceting machine and am now in a big learning curve with my Wife. for our retirement . Have dug a mine over the last 2 months down to 20 ft deep another 4-6 feet to go
Good luck finding some.
Thank you eaxactly what I needed.
In not even a beginner but this was interesting as all get out. Very cool to see. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wonder if Bey would pay for a yarful of this lmao
Just recently got an interest in rocks and your video came up as a suggestion. This is a great beginners' instructional video! I will definitely follow. Are you planning a whole beginners' series?
Yes, I will do some more of these simple beginner series.
@@VintageTimeGems Great! Looking forward to it! Thank you for the prompt reply.
This is interesting to watch, thank you for sharing it with us! Hugs, Susanne
Glad you enjoyed it
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Thank you very much, I look forward to more how too videos.
More to come!
What is the simplest gem cut to start ? Thank you ! Really love your channel
Topaz by far...
Thanks for sharing!!
Super like, bora ver o vídeo
Thank you
I've had a contraption lying around for a number of years and I've spent about the same time trying to work out what it is. I know now- It's the thing that holds the stone and sets the angles for cutting. I still don't know what it's called and I have no idea where it came from! Great informative vid btw. Thanks.
Edit. I think it's called a manipulator.
Thanks you!!!!!