The Popes Warned Us About This
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Over the past few years, I’ve watched people that I care about lose their jobs, their homes, and their good name because of the way that society treats people with Catholic views. And as a member of their community, I felt helpless to do anything about it because we aren’t mobilized as a community to respond in a collective way, which is what is needed.
And minorities are great at doing this kind of thing. You seem them mitigating these kinds of vulnerabilities because they recognize that, as a minority, they are vulnerable. But Catholics seem to take pride in being as exposed to the world as possible or perhaps it’s because we’re the largest religion in the world, so we don’t need to protect our community at all.
Well, the fact is, especially for faithful Catholics, we are a minority and if we want to ensure the vitality of our communities, we need to be more deliberate about adopting measures that will strengthen those communities.
What the current trends in our culture and professional sphere have taught me is that our indifference and lack of action on something that the Popes have been calling for, for a long time, has consequences and those consequences reveal themselves in times like what we have been living through more recently.
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I’m from Brazil and i found your videos today! Your mission is so important for all the church. I hope more people follow your steps
Amen. As recorded in 1 John 1:5, repeat this part -- God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.
I'm from Brazil too. Folow Brian for years, he is a very special catholic and I love him as a friend because he helps me in my faith and hope about the world and the Church as if he was personaly envolved in my wellbeing.
Thank you Brian, for every word. ❤
Brian, you are the best!! We need more faithful Catholics like you to get our fallen shepherds back on the right track!!! ❤🙏
nancy..
fallen shepherds????
60 plus years praying.....
hohoho...
wake up zombies...
Love that… “as faithful Catholics we are a minority”. 100%
Are you Catholic first? Or do you first define yourself as Christian?
Yeah... An elite.😂
@@jollygreen63 maybe I’m too dense because I don’t understand the question
@@daviddabrowski01He is most likely a Protestant trying to start a fight. Ignore him.
@daviddabrowski01 let me shorten the question... do you define yourself as Catholic or Christian and why?
You are exactly the right person to talk about this. I’ve had such a hard time communicating this to people, even as a medievalist.
The philosophy of the Nicolaitions WAS lacking legal or moral restraints. especially : disregarding sexual restraints - licentious behavior - licentious revelers. : marked by disregard for strict rules of correctness. The philosophy of the Nicolaitions should NOT be conflated with the Nicomachean Ethics of Aristotle. According to Aristotle's ethical theory, the virtuous person exhibits the joint excellence of reason and of character when they engage in Nicomachean Ethics.
Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics should not be conflated with the philosophy of the Nicolaitions. THESE ARE NOT THE SAME PHILOSOPHY.
Pope Innocent III and his predecessors believed that the Albigensian heresy was dangerous to Christendom because it threatened its moral conscience. While the heresies prior to the twelfth century had all been almost entirely doctrinal, the Albigensian Heresy was novel in that it was also a moral heresy. Albigensian Heresy was reminiscent of the Manichean Heresy, a strange dualism where it saw the universe as a struggle between a good god and an evil god.
If I can bring this discussion down to a more biological level, I think of the butterfly. There are some who saw a butterfly struggling to escape from its cocoon. And in an effort to help them, they prematurely took the butterfly out. But then the butterfly died because it required the struggle to to grow. Some efforts to 'help' actually 'kill'.
Charlie Brown used the best cuss word since he was prone to say, "Good Greif". There's nothing really bad about saying random accidents can be good. Just DON’T 'cause accidents' on purpose in a weird effort to cause good. As Romans 3:8 says, "Their condemnation is deserved.” Some people even slander us by claiming that we say, “The more we sin, the better it is!” Those who say such things deserve to be condemned.
Our Lady warned us as well that Bishops against Bishops. Blessed Mother pray for us🙏
106th anniversary of Fatima miracle of the sun today❤ Pray the rosary
I'm a married Catholic man with two children. Recently started to going to uni for my second masters in theatre studies (it's a session form of study). ....It wasn't a good idea. If I would get 1 cent for each time I hear the words feminist theory and gender studies I would be rich by now
We have been in serious need of a modern version of the old guilds system as envisioned by Leo XIII. Sadly, it was never taken up and popularized by most Pastors and influential Lay Catholics. Instead they opted for secular Labor Unions, Apprenticeships, Internships, and Fellowships. Nothing that supports and nurtures their faith journey together with their careers, social life, and finances. I hope this new initiative of Fishers Network becomes very successful and helps people to cope with cancel culture and the zombie-like condition employers have forced them into where they cannot freely express themselves for fear of losing their only source of income in the field they initially chose and invested so much time, money, and effort into.
Thanks for the medieval communiti s and how regular people had social protection from tyrants. I’ve read the popes encyclicals also. They are very prophetic.
@6:06 I don’t think this is quite correct. The reason feudalism disintegrated in the first place, and why there were peasant revolts hundreds of years before the French Revolution (Watt Tyler’s, for example) is because the nobility became progressively less of a warrior class throughout the Mediæval period and progressively more of the exploitative class the French Revolution overthrew. They had already broken their side of the feudal contract by progressively abandoning their responsibilities to the peasantry while maintaining and expanding their privileges at the expense of the peasantry and the emerging middle class. The reasons why this happened are of course very complicated (the Black Death was a big factor) but feudalism was essentially a system which had arisen to serve a particular need in a particular space and time (growing as it did out of the manorialism which emerged from the collapse of Western Roman society) and had effectively run its course long before it was overthrown. There were also alternative models - feudalism was imported to England by the Normans but the Anglo-Saxons hitherto had a much more law-based system of governance which is the basis of the Common Law systems of modern England and former British realms.
Great message! God bless!! 🙏
Thank you for undertaking this important endeavor.
Lord Jesus have mercy on us and save us, we ask in Your almighty name, amen.
Very fair and balanced take on such a complex situation 👍
Thank you Brother 🕊️ Keep up the great work ❤️🙏
May God continue to bless you, your family and your work
This is such a fantastic idea, Brian! Love how constructive and practical this is, too.
Please write a book on this societal change or a small video series. Fascinating and well spoken!
No enemies to the Right.
Perform witch tests.
Ask them to say ‘Christ is King’
The response is your balance of judgment.
Thank you, brother, thank you.
I've thought of similar associations myself, but wonder how long we'd "get away with it" in regards to commerce. Since money is being exchanged, the enemies of the Church would find legal mechanisms to use against the idea of churches or religious entities operating with a Catholic "bias". Unless the work being done and materials used was volunteered and donated, some sort of economic "fairness" argument would come up and quite possibly succeed in the current social climate. That said, coming together in numbers as committed Catholics will be essential.. The sooner Orthodox Catholics-- and other Christians-- recognize the usefulness of organizing and also the hostility the increasingly malignant culture will almost certainly bring to bear in the near future, the better. As always, Mr Holdsworth, you are flying right over an important target. Your home page should be in every intenet traveling Catholic's web browser bookmarks.
Most insightful ad I've ever seen 😄
May God bless you, and thank you for all that you do. I'll pass this along to my priest. 🙏
We are swimming in a cesspool culturally and it can be difficult to get to know and maintain your faith without support. Jesus founded a church for a reason. In Genesis God said it’s not good for man to be alone. The Church in its wisdom requires us to attend Mass at least once a week. We absolutely do need one another.
Good video and content, as usual
Approximately 120 churches have been burned down in Canada in the last 3 years. Some of these church burnings have been instigated by politicians. I’ve heard at my own church that politics is not allowed in discussions but that is a luxury for people who are doing well. Some of us who are attending churches need to test political ideas against what the Bible teaches. We can’t do that if all political discussion is taboo.
Very informative ✝️👍🙏
I am tired of the ceaseless supreme quality of these videos. Damnit you did it again. Again!
I have written about this extensively, but it's like nobody wants to listen because all they see is an "obligation" on their part with no immediate paycheck. I call it "Tending Your Garden" because that's an analogy that most people can relate to. As a small-time craftsman, a blacksmith and amateur historian of the Traditional Trades, the single most common complaint I hear amongst other craftsmen is the complete lack of support from "the people". Sure, folks might buy a trinket here and there, but then they go out and vote for policies, laws, taxes, and regulations that just drive up the cost of doing business for all the small business owners out there. The people think they're doing something good, but what they're really doing is listening to the whispers of those snakes in the grass who want power, who are the enemy of the people. This is why the Rust Belt is today called the Rust Belt.
If you "tend your garden", you are supposed to nurture the smallest among you and help them grow. While we can understand that when it comes to children, folks often forget that the idea applies to everyone in the community. All plants in the garden need tending or you won't get a bountiful harvest.
And, yes, "tending the garden" often requires making tough calls. The snakes in the grass will tell you that the rabbits and deer were there first, or that there's more than enough fruit to share with the "poor and suffering" somewhere else. But if you listen, you'll soon find that there's nothing at all to harvest, and generations of work to build the garden are ruined. The snakes in the grass will always push for another inch, to get one more concession from you. Gardens need to be walled off from the rest of the world if the family that tends the garden is to receive a bountiful harvest.
Amongst the faithful, I often hear people celebrating the grand castles and palaces and cathedrals while they complain about how we don't make nice things anymore. True, but the reason we don't make nice things is because the people voted to ruin the chances. Sounds harsh, maybe, but the craftsmen who made those Great Cathedrals of Europe had to work every single day on smaller projects. You don't learn to carve stone or forge iron in just a week. Not only does it require a lifetime of commitment from the craftsman, but it also requires a lifetime of support from customers.
Culture, Heritage, Tradition, everyone says these things are important to them, but then are the quickest to turn their backs on the little things that keep those ideas alive. I've always said that it's the Craftsman who cements the idea into reality through the work of his hands, but truly it's the customers who buy the product and celebrate their culture and heritage in a million little ways every day. Whole books are written by archeologists and collectors about the cultures lost to time because we have the creations those cultures left behind. From stone arrow points and pottery sherds, to willow baskets and scythes, cultures even within a country were often very different from north to south or east to west. And it's those little differences that set them delightfully apart from other groups.
Today, who tends their garden? The Amish? Yes, they do a very good job of walking the walk. The Shakers certainly did fantastic things in their time, things that ripple through society even now. But that's it. The average christian/catholic has a well-earned and very poor reputation when it comes to holding true to what they claim on Sundays.
Community is crucial, but so is a willingness to fight. The enemy is legion.
The first step is taking care of your own, first and foremost. Choose your friends wisely. Build those relationship so everyone benefits. Show serious discernment in who you trade with. Be seen supporting your own team without hesitation or apology. Tend your Garden, folks. The Snakes are In the Grass always. The temptation is always there. Your challenge is to be stalwart, and that's a whole lot easier when you know there are people willing to fight by your side.
good on you Brian
So right
The peasants and serfs would not fight foreign wars, but they were expected to defend the homeland from invasion. This was called the feudal levy.
As a devout Catholic and a business owner , can you please explain to me why I must pay fifty dollars a month ? This seems rather suspicious to me . Why don't you do a system instead where your network only gets paid if a profit is made on a deal between two members . This way it's performance rather than existence based .
Do you work for free? As a business owner, you should understand the necessity that you need capital in order to be sustainable. No margin, no mission.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Have a look at Henry George on this subject.
Even kings led people on the battle fields. And EVEN Napoleon!
@@ziggyzigggfreed4604as much as I don't t like napoleon, he did fight in the Frontline with his men and almost died several times. It was one of the reasons why his men were so loyal to him.
I like it! ❤️💙
The Hamilton based CUPE local's tweet was rightfully objected to by McMaster University. The CUPE local then came out with a long, and rather pathetic, statement trying to massage in hints of Canadian indigenous history. A revolting, two-faced move!
I will only be joining the fishers network if sea shanties are mandatory
I have been doing something like the fishers network with close friends, but the unity it would bring to a parish would be crazy. But I'm in a Spanish (Dominican Republic) country. What would you need to have a Spanish version of the app?
Very important topic, all the social teaching of the Church is most of the time ignored. We live in a secular world and society which expect us to think of the Church as a secondary thing.
Amen, Amen! We need to do the right thing, finally.
If something needs doing in a parish, e.g. a building project, then we should choose a company best able to do the job in an honest and competent way.
Responing as a collective is only a good thing if the collective is intelligent or truthful.
If not, it is devistating and someone should've gone against that collective proving them wrong.
This was well done
A big reason why ive considered Orthodoxy is because everyone in the church recognizes each other and if someone new joins they are welcomed and noticed. When i became Catholic again i was completely invisible and had to really push to make a few friends. If i was someone with social anxiety i wouldve been invisible every Sunday for God knows how long.
The only reason to be Catholic is is it true? Did Jesus found this Church and give it His Authority to teach, govern and sanctify? If yes then there’s no other option. If no then you can shop for any one that suits your preferences. You know, be a Protestant.
@@mrjeffjob I guess you don't know your history. The Eastern Orthodox can also trace their roots back to the infallible authority of Christ.
Orthodoxy rejects the papacy and has their own liberal tendencies like allowing divorce, etc.. the only reason you feel "noticed" in a Orthodox parish is because they're a tiny minority in the United States, they're usually ethnically based, and they're bleeding parishioners as well, so when someone new shows up they stick out like a sore thumb. I briefly attended the Ordinariate and experienced the same overwhelming warm and welcome reception because everyone knew my family and I were new and probably not prior protestants, just Roman Catholics looking for a reverent liturgy.
@@trad-lite Well Catholics have annulments (Catholic divorces). And there are many reasons why they reject the papacy. And I wouldn't talk about "liberal" towards orthodoxy when there are many Catholic priests blessing gay marriages currently.
@@TruLuan you're picking tiny exceptions to justify being in schism with the Catholic Church. SOME rad-trad sedevacantists don't equal Orthodox Christians rejecting the whole papacy theologically or doctrinally. Apples and oranges. An annulment is NOT "Catholic divorce"...divorce only recognizes the immediate legal separation, while an annulment recognizes a previously unknown impediment to the sacrament of marriage that nullifies the marriage retroactively. And SOME if any, rogue disobedient priests blessing gay relationships is exactly that. Rogue priests being disobedient. They'll have to answer to Christ for that. And so will you if you knowingly choose to separate yourself from Christ's Church just so you can feel better about hating on Pope Francis and attend the Divine Liturgy.
Good
step 1: all former catholic countries should adopt catholicism as an official religion of the state and ditch church-state separation..
step 2: restore catholic culture and societal principle across the entire societal spectrum
step 3. keep step 1 and 2 and don't give an inch.
I would love to participate in something this, but I have no skills to offer.
Everybody has something to offer, and by being humble you are in the greatest position of all to offer your services. Start with prayer, the Risen Lord will guide you to your gifts.
what's the title of the opening chant?
Wasn't Pope Leo XIII absolutely adorable. He had such twinkly eyes and his lips always looked smiley.
Considering he died in 1903, and thus there were very few photographs taken of him, this could just be a fluke. But I agree, he's a good looking man as far as I can tell.
Is there an option other than an app? I’m trying to get away from a smartphone…
"Do not try: do or do not!"😂
Just don't use the device one or two days a week on a regular basis! That will reset your psychy.😉
ATTENTION: why does Brian POSE with hand across his chin? like jonathan (freemason/kabbalah) cahn penalty pose..he does one eye symbolism too WHY?
Brian, you are such a wise and good person! Thank you!!!
I don't understand emphasis on Hamas. If you are gonna condemn one you without any reason than you should others also.
St Joseph Business Guild. Look it up.
Is this idea being used in the US also? Have you spoken to anyone about it here? I is a stellar idea and greatly needed. Please let me know. Thanks.
Yes, it's open to the US and Canada.
People can only respond collectively if there is an ethnic unity. Irish Catholics, Polish Catholics etc
hows is Fishers network not just essentially Young Catholic Professionals under a new name?
Pope Pius the 10th was one of the handsomest popes
I'm all for this idea in theory, but the price for joining is just too high to actually accomplish what you're talking about 40+ dollars a month is pretty substantial and will deter the growth needed to make this an effective organization. Especially since the kind of people who would join are those just starting out in their careers who can't afford that. I'm all for supporting an org but the price is just prohibitive at this point
Feudalism is sounding pretty good I must say. I’d be amenable to a Catholic monarchy.
With the scandals and hideous religious we have now giving them anymore power would not workout well.
No Kings but Christ!
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0:58 - How do D&I policies violate catholic moral beliefs?
Because all of those policies need to be conditioned by justice but justice, per se, is conspicuously absent from all such discussions and policies.
+JMJ They are racist.
Not much has changed since the leader of hamas lives in luxury in Qatar and orders his people to stay so they can be used as human shields.
I would love to sit down with you to discuss this topic. You said many disturbing things. I am a Christian man. There are no denominations in God's word. Catholics seem to love the Catholic church more than Jesus. Why is that?
The Church IS Jesus. We love both. We don't erect a false dichotomy or rivalry between them. Jesus sent his disciples out in his name saying, if you listen to/reject them, you listen to/reject me. The Church is also called his body in scripture and he the head. You can't separate them.
I'm in
Thank you for vision that you discuss with Fishernetwork.
Do you have any videos/advice for folks like myself that want to go back to the church but have stepped away for too long?
Forgive me, but if you think the questions challenging the Roman Catholic Church today are being accepted differently by the “minority faithful” than they did with the reforms of Vatican II you are woefully mistaken. I love your example of Napoleon as the Papacy arose out of its need to rule and defend its own Empire known as the Papal State that made alliance with Charlemagne’s Europe to created the Holy Roman Empire. As far as Unions, Collective Bargaining, Communism and Hamas……..Whaaaat?????? Now selling an app to improve the magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church, classic nonsense to the highest degree as that’s not your job, it’s the Holy Spirits. Your Job is to comply because that’s what Roman Catholicism demands unless you wish to become a Cardinal and get elected Pope. A TH-cam channel is a poor substitute to a life of Sacrifice, Service, Study and Devotion.
Interpretations of the saints vary. For example, Protestant interpretations vary according to various perceptions of time before or after death. But some very devout Roman Catholics interpret I Corinthians 6:2-3 in regards to the Saints in Heaven.
"Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!"
Prayer of the Saints in Heaven is very biblical.
Purgatory is not some spiritual boot-camp that a person can potentially fail at. If a person finds themselves in Purgatory they are on their "painful entry level" into Heaven. I suppose one might even be able to say that Purgatory is the flip of a 'painful coin' into Paradise. All people are purged of their sin, like gold being refined of its impurities.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
What i wouldn't gove for Pious X to have a miraculous bodily resurrection...
OK, some ideas stood out to me. I really do get what is trying to be done here and God bless Brian for attempting to do it. But what exactly is the end game here? Lets consider some of what was said. Once Catholic professioninals are better established the will be able to "Better equipped to respond to the needs of their community. Build their community" If you feel a need to respond to the difficulties Catholics and most people are facing in the 21st century" "consider being part of the solution? " Consider how this could help revolutionize your parish community" What does 'the church" need to better respond to? What are the difficulties the Church and others are facing? Yes, be a part of the solution, but what is the greatest need? Might I suggest , THE GOSPEL??? The gospel is the greatest need? The gospel is the power unto salvation and ALL of mankinds in EVERY communities greatest need. How does this equip the saints to "Therefore Go!" Might I suggest that the greatest failure of the 'church" is the desire to go?? I do respect whats beng attempted but at the same time must express that your average everday Catholic is inept in the capacity to express, present, tell or give the Gospel nor do they even understand what it is.
Bring back the Catholic Guilds.
Sounds similar to what the freemasons already do, but great for people who are Catholic. Would be very interested!
The Bible says that we should not live amongst the nonbelievers. We have ignored that for several generations and God allows that punishment. The Abby system was a means to follow scripture and it was destroyed in the French Revolution and reign of terror.
unecessary to get into politics
I realy wonder where you get these historical "facts" from...as a peasant/vassal (a vassal or liege subject is a person regarded as having a mutual obligation to a lord or monarch, in the context of the feudal system in medieval Europe.) you had to go to war for your lord. The lord and knights fougth aswell, but as the peasant you had no other choice then go to war for your baron/lord/king.
God bless and sustain Pope Francis and his letters Laudato Si’, Fratelli Tutti and Laudate Deum.
Are you even Catholic?
Lets reinstante the templar knights
Created by the people to protect the people
The Amish do it as a community, why not Catholics?
Honestly, because it takes work and dedication. Much easier to listen to the snakes in the grass. If you look back over the last 100 years of history in the Western Nations, every problem we have today is a result of the people looking for the easier path that was promised to them by those seeking power.
This does frustrate me because there are a lot of people that will say that the pope said you can’t bless sin In regards to gay marriage and blessing them so they can live a better life. Maybe he does want them not to do this but to me, it becomes ambiguous when people like Father, James Martin are promoted Father James Martin has publicly said that the Bible is wrong when it comes to gay marriage the Bible can’t be wrong because it was protected by God and we have text from the Old Testament as well as the Dediqué upholding these beliefs.. The other problem is he says that abortion is like hiring a hitman that is correct, but he needs to state more because he also put two pro abortion women on the Academy for life to me. This makes things very ambiguous. I don’t think the bishops were trying to criticize the pope when they wrote A letter asking him for clarification, and they wanted it in a form of yes or no Michael Lofton says that answering a question with a yes, or no is not always correct and not or Answers can come just with a yes or no. but for me, the Bible states, let your yes be yes, and your no be a no sew. Some of the actions are questionable at least in my mind I am trying to be respectful in these regards.. but some of the decisions made by the pool or concerns. The last issue that troubles me is his take on the death penalty being in a miserable I don’t think this is correct, because not all countries have a prison system that is run correctly, either due to money or corruption, or not having the proper facilities in one way or another. if I’m not mistaken, Saint Jerome said that the death penalty is permissible, and sometimes a grace by God, because if a person knows they’re coming to their death, they know that they must get right with God. also states that even an innocent person may use these graces as penance for the sins of the world, as well as a guilty person can do the same when they are truly sorry for their sins. prison was not supposed to be for rehabilitation. It was supposed to be giving justice and writing a wrong punishment. this just breaks my heart.
Hamas is horrible but Israel is horrible in other ways.
Everyone should pay attention to what issues cause people like this to make videos like this.
Putting guns in the hands of the “working class” implies this is how the US also works. It is NOT SO. I just hope you make that distinction please.
As US citizens I’m sure you know that we have guns for different reasons lol #2A
Politics is always about power. In 12 Step recovery, we often reflect on the difference between 'power over' and 'power to.' God gave each of us 'power' to decide and act, ideally remembering His higher power and doing so in accordance with His Will. But sadly as a result of the fall, the power we were given transformed into a delicious drug. Satan was, and is still, an expert pusher. We wretched sin-addicts now mostly claim, hope for, or exercise 'power over' as we follow the pusher around, forgetting God's higher power.
Spot on. Politics is downstream from the culture though. When society has degraded to the point is at , politics won't save it
KNOWLEDGE is power!! The more you know - the more power you have!😉
So, first and foremost: we all have to LEARN more!
And we have to start from ourselves: "Cognosce te ipsum!" For when you know yourself and believe God - you are invincible!
Thank God for everything: what seems to be trials are - simply - lessons!..
The more you know - the more you believe God!😃🌞😉
unions ... ties to freemasonry.
Sorry to disagree here. The Age of revolutions was a raction all the misconducts by powerful on powerless, both from the clergy and the lay nobles. Enlightenment was both now and then key. Maybe if Monarchs would have acted more wisely, some countries would still have them. I do not know.
What i am sure is, that we are beyond the point people will accept acts of clemency instead of guaranteed rights.
And being a conservative catholic is possible but one should be able to bring answers all along.
"The Popes Warned Us About This" [6:50] The Popes warned us about what? I love you Bri, but this isn't your best video so far, you've been talking for a quite a while and I still don't know what we're talking about. Sounds ok, but what are we talking about exactly? The Popes warned us about *what?* What is the subject of this video? There is a thesis missing here - for a long time.
6:51] "It was this overthrow of a political system that at least in theory was designed to promote the common good and protect the weak from the powerful...." Ok, we're talking about the plight of the working class, particularly at the youngest and most vulnerable ages that inspired the Popes of the era to decry the conditions of the working people. Fine. Could we have had that statement three or four minutes ago?
Full disclosure, my French great-grandfather was a ' menuisier '- a woodworker - and was a brother of the 'Compagnons du Devoir et du Tour de France,' that group of super-skillful craftsmen and creators that built *everything* of cultural, political, or economic significance in France from the middle ages up to nearly the present day - a politically powerful force in France since neither the aristocracy nor the Church could get *anything* they wanted built without their cooperation. During the French Revolution when they were heavily suppressed - go figure.
Historically up until very, very recently everyone labored. *Everyone:* Every man, woman, and child - except the aristocracy and the so called 'leisured classes' where working was considered a class-sin.
Oh dear, I'm starting to sound like a Marxist.
If the civilizational presumption is that *everyone* not a member of the aristocracy labored, what would be the difference if a child labored in a coal mine if his father was a coal miner? Just put this in your head, in the 19th century and early 20th century it was a very new idea that the twelve year old son of a coal miner should not also work in the mines doing something productive to help feed the family and instead loll about in school and garner an education paid for [indirectly or directly] by the miners themselves. Does this sharpen your focus on the problem at all?
Somewhere on the internet exists a graph that depicts the progress of individual human economic productivity from the darkest ages of our shared past from the dawn of agriculture up until the present day, it is a nearly flat line from the dawn of agriculture up until the dawn of the industrial revolution when the adoption of steam power [fossil fuels], sophisticated machines, and the factory system created a socio-economic phenomenon much later recognized as 'scalability' which was that certain function with the economic system could be *vastly* more remunerative than others.
For instance you're a programmer and write a killer app you can become a billionaire by age thirty. You flip burgers at Burger King? there are only so many burgers you can possibly flip in a day. The math is approximately that simple. Approximately. So, the blade of the 'hockey stick graph' I just described is actually the integral of several several sub-graphs of several classes of people who have vastly different potential for economic remuneration. So what to do? How do you make this even approximately fair? So now we are back to our Marxist paradox, nobody seems to know how to deal with this problem yet - not even the Marxists - though they have slaughtered the golden goose numerous times in the attempt.
So what is the solution? Religion actually, our shared Catholic religion has the most excellent and humanitarian set of teachings on social justice, just go back to Part III, Section One, Chapter Two, Article 3 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church starting around paragraph 1928 - start reading. If people actually implemented what the Catechism teaches we wouldn't have these problems, or at least they would not be as serious problems as they are today. So why do we have these problems? For the answer to that question: 'concupiscence' see paragraph 405 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
[My apologies, I'm going through The Catechism in a Year with Fr. Mike Schmitz - Day 286! - right now and just could not resist.]
8:20] Oh no! now he's got an "initiative" that invites all of the Catholic elites to join and *only* the Catholic elites to join. Ughh! What about the working class Catholics? - like me. What about the poor Catholics?? Can we join? Is there an initiative for the rest of us? So, this 'Fishers' thingy is kinda like the Lions Club or Rotary International only different??? The only thing I hear absent in Brian's missive is a moral and charitable impetus to the operation that actually: feeds the poor, clothes the naked, houses the homeless, buries the dead, pays the working man well enough that his wife can raise his children. Maybe that is in Fishers 2.0.
Honestly, I really wasn't expecting to wind up here at minute seven when I started typing.
Methinks someone should have warned us about the Pope! 🤣
1:10 Correction: Support for Palestine is not support for terrorism... The propaganda, gaslighting and disinformation surrounding the conflict as a simple black vs white / terrorism vs peace is disingenuous. I know you are wiser than this.
Mathew 7/21-23, not everyone who says 'lord, lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.........
Mathew15/14, the blind led by the blind into a pit.
Christianity spread across the world by aggression, bloodshed and deceit. Was this the will of the Father in heaven.
The answer cannot be, yes.
Which means, we are forcibly, cruelly, ruthlessly converted. We are the blind led by the blind into a pit.
No amount of 'Jesus, Jesus is going to save us.
Jesus will shun us, hypocrites.
Christianity is a cult, a curse.
I'm so sorry for you Brian.
Come back to Orthodoxy! 🙌🏼
Back?
Leo XIII, best Pope.
Read the Bible. It’s all in there.
Click bait
True Popes have told us that we cannot recognize and resist a true pope. Since Jorge bergoglio believes, professes, teaches, and imposes a non-Catholic religion (just as all the false Vatican II "Popes" did, we know he is not a true Pope.
The "Recognize and Resist" position of many traditional Catholics that says we can refuse assent to the teachings of who they believe are true Popes, is not a valid Catholic position. It is actually a position that has been condemned by the Church. We cannot refuse assent to the doctrines taught in the Magisterium of true Popes, for example, the doctrines in Encyclical Letters. But the Magisterium of the Vatican II "Popes" taught numerous heresies. Therefore, they were false Popes.
Proof:
The Roman Pontiff has never erred in matters of faith or morals 171ff., 273, 1723, 1836 (not even Liberius 93); for this reason he is rightly called the protagonist of the faith 129, whose office is to define and defend the truths of faith 466, 5709, 1836, which is never done to the detriment of science 1679, 1712. Assent and obedience are due to his decrees, even if they do not pertain to the dogmas of faith and morals 1698."-Denzinger's Sources of Catholic Dogma
“Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent, since in writing such Letters the Popes do not exercise the supreme power of their Magisterium. For these matters are taught with the Ordinary Magisterium (Magisterio Ordinario), of which it is true to say: “He who heareth you, heareth me…” (Lk. 10:16) -Pius XII
Pope Pius XI: "Wherefore, let the faithful also be on their guard against the overrated independence of private judgment...or even that they must obey only in those matters which she has decreed by solemn definition as though her other decisions might be presumed to be false..."
Pope Pius IX, 1864 “Nor can we pass over in silence the audacity of those who, not enduring sound doctrine, contend that “without sin and without any sacrifice of the Catholic profession assent and obedience may be refused to those judgments and decrees of the Apostolic See, so only it does not touch the dogmata of faith and morals.”
Tuas Libenter, Pope Pius IX, 1864"...It is not sufficient for learned Catholics to accept and revere the aforesaid dogmas of the Church, but that it is also necessary to subject themselves to the decisions pertaining to doctrine which are issued by the Pontifical Congregations."
...The assent which the Holy See requires is called religious, that is, to be offered because of the motive of religion; this is deduced from the fact that obedience is demanded to authentic decrees under the pain of serious guilt: D 3503, 3543-3547" -Joachim Salaverri, S.J.
"...But the supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself..." -Leo XIII
"...The assent of the mind, which is required, by its nature demands that the faithful hold with their internal mind the very same thing that the Supreme Pontiff enunciates, and that they very directly affirm the very same thing that he himself asserts. Therefore, when the decrees say that some doctrine is safe or not safe, it must be held that it is such-safe or not safe; however, when they propose a doctrine as certain or erroneous, as true or false, then we must hold and affirm that it really is certain or erroneous, true or false, as the decrees precisely enunciate it, according to the clear mind of Leo XIII. (Immortale Dei)" - Theologian, Joachim Salaverri, S.J.
"For it would be the same thing for the Church to adhere to a false pope, as it would be to adhere to a false rule of faith, since the pope is the living rule which the Church must follow in believing, and always in fact follows." -Cardinal Billot
Here is what it would look like if you took the Dogmatic Constitution Pastor Aeternus of the First Vatican Council (1870), which lays out Catholic doctrine and dogma on the Papacy, and replaced the phrase “Roman Pontiff” (and similar expressions) with the phrase “Pope Francis”:
Since Pope Francis, by the divine right of the apostolic primacy, governs the whole Church, we likewise teach and declare that Pope Francis is the supreme judge of the faithful, and that in all cases which fall under ecclesiastical jurisdiction recourse may be had to Pope Francis’ judgment. The sentence of Pope Francis (than which there is no higher authority) is not subject to revision by anyone, nor may anyone lawfully pass judgment thereupon. And so they stray from the genuine path of truth who maintain that it is lawful to appeal from the judgments of Pope Francis to an ecumenical council as if this were an authority superior to Pope Francis. So, then, if anyone says that the Roman Pontiff has merely an office of supervision and guidance, and not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, and this not only in matters of faith and morals, but also in those which concern the discipline and government of the Church dispersed throughout the whole world; or that he has only the principal part, but not the absolute fullness, of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate both over all and each of the Churches and over all and each of the pastors and faithful: let him be anathema. -Pius IX, Pastor Aternus, Vatican I (Source: Novus Ordo Watch)
"...The Roman Pontiff who holds the place of God on earth. Ground your whole wisdom therefore, in an absolute obedience and joyous and constant adherence to this Chair of Peter." -Pope Pius IX Per Tristissima
"We declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that submission to the Roman Pontiff is entirely necessary for salvation." -Boniface VIII.
Submission means submission to the Magisterium, the Canonization of Saints, Rite of Mass, etc. Submission does not mean acceptance or nominal recognition.
"What is the use of loudly proclaiming the dogma of the supremacy of Saint Peter and his successors?(...)repeating the declarations of faith in the Catholic Church and of obedience to the Apostolic See when, in practice, the actions belie these beautiful words?" -Pius IX
"The Roman Pontiff, the vicar of Jesus Christ, placed with the supreme power of the whole Church, [is] the master of all that is to be believed and practiced."- Pope Leo XIIIDen1936C.
"It will be entirely necessary, if it [community] wishes to be part of the society divinely founded by our Redeemer, to be completely subject to the Supreme Pontiff, Vicar of Jesus Christ on earth, and be strictly united with him in regard to religious faith and morals."-Leo XIII
"The judgement of the Roman Pontiff...cannot be restricted or overruled by the judgment of any other authority on earth."-Salaverri, S.J.
"There is no judgment on earth superior to that of the Roman Pontiff, because, since his power is universal, in every cause in the Church and by any of the faithful there can be recourse to the judgment of the Roman Pontiff..."-Salaverri S.J.
Cardinal Franzelin, Tractatus de Divina Traditione et Scriptura
Cardinal Franzelin was one of the most trusted advisors to Pope Pius IX and one of the most eminent papal theologians at Vatican I...here is what he explains: I speak of both the objective safety of declared doctrine (either without qualification or by way of limited supplements, as mentioned) and the subjective safety of declared doctrine, insofar as it is safe for everyone to adopt it, and it is unsafe and impossible for anyone to refuse to adopt it without a violation of due submission towards the divinely established magisterium."
The recognize and resist position of so-called traditionalists, is nothing other than the errors of modernists, jansenists, and semi-rationalists all rolled into one.
"...direct doctrinal decrees...propose that the doctrine itself is to be held as true or false; hence, by way of an example, in doctrinal encyclical letters, which are directed to the whole Catholic world, the doctrine which is taught in them formally and principally is rightly proposed by Theologians to be held simply as Catholic doctrine.
Adversaries
1.) In general, all who deny the doctrinal authority of the Supreme Pontiff, or refuse to admit that it is universal and supreme.
2) Jansenists, holding at most that silence suffices, which they call obediential,...concerning any proposition which falls outside the ambit of the deposit of revelation: D 2390.
3) Semi-rationalists, restrict the obligation of assent to those only, which have been infallibly defined as dogmas of faith: D 2879, 2922.
4) Modernists, ...deny the power of the Church to demand any internal assent of the mind: D 3407.
5) Contemporary advocates of novelty easily pass from despising scholastic theology to the neglect and even contempt of the teaching authority of the Church itself....The duty incumbent on the faithful [is] to flee also those errors which more or less approach heresy."-Joachim Salaverri, S.J.
Duh !! Brian, Get an education about the Israeli-Palestinian problem before offering ignoramous opinions !!
Are you talking about the genocidal acts of Israel taking place right now against the civilians of Gaza? War crimes are done by both sides.
Very convenient Brian.
Over rated...sorry buddy
Who sez Canadians are boring? Lol
Fishers grift
Brian seems a nice guy. Why he sees catholicism as Christianity defies my mind.