How to Fix LED Turn Signal Problems on a Motorcycle - Suzuki Intruder VS1400 rebuild part 12
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- Installing LED Turn signals on your motorcycle is a fantastic upgrade, but it can cause problems. The most common LED turn signal problem that you will face is that all of the LED turn signals turn on at the same time. This can easily be fixed by installing a DIODE Splitter for your wiring loom.
You can purchase a METRIC diode kit or you can fix the problem by making your own.
In this video, I will illustrate how easy it is to fix the LED turn signal problem by building a diode splitter using scrap wire and a couple of diodes. I then will show you how to install the diode splitter into the headlight housing of a Suzuki Intruder VS1400.
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Motorcycle Specs:
Manufacturer: Suzuki
Model: Intruder VS1400
Year: 1997
Engine Size: 1360cc
Fuel Type: Petrol - Four Stroke
Cooling System: Air/Oil Cooled
Transmission: 5 Speed
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Did this for my 85 shadow, worked fine. As he says, plug the DIODE single side up to one of the cluster signals wires and the other wire from the cluster to a ground. Then connet the 2 DIODE ends to the signal wires. The running lights can go directly on to the signals.
Can’t thank you enough! Got a Honda Rebel 250, watches a few Honda videos and I was not very clear I mean they did a good job of wire color and such but you showed me very clearly where to cut the wires and where they came from and going to. That gave me the confidence to take on my bobber with les signals and a new relay I ordered, and as a newbie I’m so happy and thankful! I finally got good signal!
Your the LED GOD, thanks man, im about to order these, I do not want to remove my cluster bulb, so im a following you lead in this video
Glad I could help
Great video. Used LED turn signals on a Suzuki GS500 scrambler build and would have been lost without this. Clear, concise instruction that was easy to follow with no confusion. Many thanks.
My pleasure Josh, glad it helped.
thanks for this video. Im doing the work on a scooter, but all I needed was a general idea. Fortunately I already have the diodes. Its so great when youtube provides the exact video I need to solve my issue. Thanks again!
Just did it on my 94 1400 and works like a charm.
Thanks
Great Video. Thanks for all the helpful links in description!
Have 1995 VS1400, this is a gem channel! Thanks!
Thanks for your kind words :)
It not only works on an intruder my Drz had the same connector and it's working , same wire colours same plugs . Thanks for a great tutorial 👍
Really good video, I need todo this on my 83 Fiesta, as fitting led front and rear indicators all 4 are going off. Companies want £10 for the "kit" basically what you've just made.
Update - Worked perfectly, I now have indicators working as they should! Thanks again chap.
the king is back 👑🙏🏼🍻 glad to see you again my brother 😎
Thanks Brother! Great to be here, thanks for sticking with me!
Thanks for the videos man, I haven't gotten my Intruder yet but it's coming!
Found my fix. You don't need to use a diodes or resistors to do the conversion. All you need is a CF15 LED non-polarity flasher. It is a three prong flasher, while most Flashers for vintage bikes are two prong. The third prong goes to ground. The CF12, CF13, and CF14 will still have problems. You have to get a CF15. I got one off Amazon for $11 and my 83 Suzuki GR650 was up and running using cheap Amber 1156 LEDs I got off Amazon in a four pack for $10. Total conversion cost was $21. I also converted my instrument panel for $8 for a pack of ten 194 LED bulbs. Then added an LED headlight. I got and LED rear/break 1157 years ago when they first came out, back when they were expensive. It's still kind of dim, as it also doubles as a license plate light, so you have to use a white one in a red on top, white underneath cover. I've been searching for a dual LED (Red Beam/White on bottom) for it, but haven't found one.
I've watched a dozen videos and finally this one makes sense. With the other videos, I always seemed to have one extra wire left unconnected. I have two wires coming off my dash indicator. One of those, I connect to single diode wire. The other end of diode kit (two wires) go into the leads that used to connect to both dash indicators. The remaining wire, coming off the dash indicator, I connect to ground. Working on a 77 triumph, the stock signals have only single wire. Somehow, they are supposed to ground from a plastic housing. It has not been so reliable. Wanted to buy two wire led turn signals, so I can actually attach actual ground wire. Think I can scavenge enough bullet connectors from old harness to make this work. The front indicators go into headlamp shell with spade connectors. Again, only single wire, have to make up ground connectors for all four indicators, but those will be going to circle connectors to mount to frame.
i used diodes from scrap LCD TV board...specs is a bit higher, the interweb say higher specs is not a problem...and it works
Thanks mate, excellent tutorial and very well explained. Going to try this as Ive got resistors in my bucket at the moment for my LEDs but they get so damn hot so I want to ditch them.
Love your videos. Doing this mod right now and following your lead. Thanks
Very informative video and well explained, thanks!
87 Vs700. Thank you. Enjoyed the video.
Great video. Any chance you can update the link for the LED Flasher Relay? Link no longer works.
There is a simpler solition to this. Assuming that there is one shared indicator light for left and right signals you can replace the standard bulb with a led bulb (which is essentially a diode as well). Now you only have to rewire the ground wires of your front signal lights to the positive lead of your indicator light and lead the negative from the indicator light to a ground lead. Often you can do this by just switching the connectors, without cutting or splicing into wires.
Awesome video! Thanks!
Best and clean tutorial. Thank you
Glad it helped
Great video, and great explanation, I am doing the same conversation in my 97 Honda valkyrie 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Best video I've seen on this
Excellent video. I have the issue that you mentioned with the lights not being bright enough, so this may provide the solution.
BTW, my dealer installed the lights and they were not working when I got them. Not only that, I never even asked them to install lights on my brand new bike. Now they are too busy to fix them.
DAMN! I can wire my house now! Thanks for the clear tutorial!
You are most welcome :)
very good and instructive video :)
Very usefull! thanks!
Thank you so very much
Im having the same issue on a 2013 softail slim HD. Im hoping this works the same, because you're the only one i found that clearly explained why id have one dim led. Just curious if putting a diode on the individual led wiring would work instead of in the headlight housing. Thanks for taking the time to share such valuable knowledge. God knows what the Harley dealer would bend me over for. Much appreciated.
Wow thank you you solved my problem
Great video
nice 1, happy new year
Thanks you so much. I did the wire split now all i have to find is the wire closter in my 2015 victory Vision
Thanks for the video. It would be super helpful if you could explain what these wires do (the ones that you cut in order to splice the Y-cord with diodes). Where does each wire come from and where is it going. Not all bikes have the same connector inside the headlight can. This way your fix could be applied to other bikes besides your Intruder. Thank you!
Hey just wondering also what about the front running lights I have the same as what you installed and has 3 wires would like to have running lights as well thanks love your videos.
Where did you got the matching colors of the wiring to rebuild the harness? Thanks in advance!
A ‘96 I bought came without turn signals and I have fork ring l.e.d.’s for the front with a single split strip for the back that functions as a brake light as well. Been trying to figure out which wires are for the front and rear turn signals. Been tapping into wires and blowing fuses. Don’t have a manual and could really use your help!! Thanks in advance and love the content!!
So…got front and back hooked up. All is well and very bright. Somewhat of a quick flash, but working great thanks to you!!!
Cheers Mate
Great imformative video (No bullshit)
Ive got a Suzuki DRZ400E looks like the same wiring as yours with the same problem
Thanks for you help
Exelente!!
I dId this on my 1995 vs1400 shortly after i got it three years ago. I bought the little kit with the diode set already assembled, and soldered it in. I wish i had thought to use connectors like that, would have been much easier. Of course, while i put in a Radiantz LED tail light retrofit, i still haven't switched to LED turn signals yet.
The connectors are far from perfect, here's hoping they wont rust and degrade too quickly :) Radiantz LED tail light sounds like an awesome mod!!! Keep it up
Good evening I did the exact set up you have on my 86 suzuki intruder 750 i get the turn signal indicator in the cluster to light up but not blink nor does the blinker on the left side when clicked to the left. When I turn the switch to the right a what seems to be a flasher relay buzzes really loud and the light in the cluster and the blinker will not light up. Any suggestions my bike looks like light blue and black are the same as your bike.
Love this channel you make it very easy to understand.. please HELP I have a 94 where in the heck is the flasher I thought I would just replace with a electronic flasher but can't find it thanks in advance
The relay will be under the pillion seat if you have a stock set up. If you can see a relay that has an L shaped connector, that is your flasher relay
Some people may find it is easier to leave the long leads on the diodes and solder to those. Then clip the excess off after done soldering.
This way you are sure not to snip too short and make a mess.
You are not wrong :) Only reason I do it this way is that those stems are VERY brittle and if they are bent back and forth just a few times they will snap off.
Hi there hope all is well I finally got back to working on my light's got them working But they work fine when bike is idling once I give throttle the flash increases weird and then once I go for a ride it blows the fuse any ideas please thanks
Excellent video! However to my surprise, my headlight wiring does not look like yours very much. I tried to install the diode splitter to the best of my ability but it did not seem to solve my problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is driving me mad.
2002 Yamaha V Star Classic 1100
Cheers
I have a 1975 Norton with a positive ground system. How does the wiring need to be changed for my LED signals to work?
Estaría de lujo que le pongas subtitulo en español a los vídeos 👍
Juhu new video!!(:
:) it's good to be back!
Awesome.. I own a 2010 Honda Phantom, installed L.E.D.s' all around..they are dim, flash fast ( installing new relay this morning..(( LF1 -S)) , Should solve quick blinking..but - not dim L.E.D.s'.
Any help would be great.
You can barely see my L.E.D.s' at night.
Thank you.
Hi and thanks for this specifically guide, my question is could I skip this procedure by replacing the relay by a Led relay istead of?
Kindly Regards
Ali
Suzuki vz800 1998
having a problem, set it up with one indicator bulb wire to ground, other to the diode lead. the other ends of the diodes to each turn signal wire, just like the video. still all four are flashing, and each of the running lights shut off whenever the flasher wire is plugged into the turn signals regardless of the indicator switch position. (they are 3 wire led running/turn signal/ground ) anyone have any suggestions?
Hi I installed some switchback halo to my Yamaha when I brake or used the turn signal my indicator light show some fade light so I installed a switch to turn the light off and everything work well the indicator in the switchback led work well do you think the current is going back in the system and can a diode fix it ?
what's the amp rating on the wire you are using
I ve given up fitting led signals to my m800 intruder 2008 .Spent a small fortune on indicators , different flasher units , diode kits ect .
What seems to be the problem?
@ Thanks for asking but i just going to stick with the original lolipop flashers .No matter what i tried i just went from flashing too fast even after 3 new aftermarket led flashers , to not working at all .
I have a 2001 intruder 1400vs and I put me led blinkers on and both sides are not working then I put stick back on and those don’t work either.would this still be the same process to do for my bike ?
Just did it on my 90 vx800 and required wiring in a load resistor after but now my leds work
Hi Hagar... i have exactly a 1997 Intruder and I tried to fix this problem like you did.
now if I flash on the left it works perfectly. But if I flash on the right, still all 4 flashers start to blink.
Do you maybe know what the problem could be? Greets, Fabri
I have a 2001 Suzuki intruder vs800 I just put the led turns signals on the rear and I don’t current have front end ones yet, but they worked for a day and the second day the turn signal indicator is staying lit when the bike is on and the lights come on but they do not blink when I flip the switch from left to right to flash the signals they sort of flash indicating that they are getting some sort of signal . Can you please tell me what I can do to fix this and if I need to install
Those diodes as you did where can I order those and can you leave a link. Please get back to me ASAP I ride day and night daily
I’m super confused … mine doesn’t look like this probably bc I’m in the USA and mines a v800 . My light green goes from indicator light to my right turn signal, and black from indicator to left turn signal are these the wires I use ? Or the grey and black and white wires that run single wire to two wire split into both turn signals..?
Hello, the ad you placed in the description is not up-to-date, what turn signal relay should I put.
Amazing video!
Thanks!
@ I had a similar issue with mine two years back. And I used way to many hours to figure it out. Wish I had you video then.
@@Bonkers1980 glad you did get it sorted. Trying to build an library of as many helpful videos as possible so folks dont have to struggle :)
@ Really cool. Where you from man? Someone shared this video in the Norwegian Intruder Club
@@Bonkers1980 I'm in the UK my friend. Jeg skulle ønske jeg var i Norge
I have a 1983 Suzuki GR650 Tempter and tried to convert the bulbs to LED. For the turn signals, I installed an LED flasher, but the bulbs are woanky. I had to leave the front turn signal bulbs as incandescent to make it work. The Tempter has independent indicators for the turn signals, left and right. If I switch the indicators back to incandescent, it does not effect the outcome. I have a feeling that the indicators are pulling power from the switch directly and are not in the turn signal loop. Will a diode (one for each side) on the front turn signals fix the problem?
so, what if I changed the speedo lights to leds, no incandescent on the bike installed an led flasher relay, lights look ok, but have energy spilling over.. turn signals have brake lights, running and turn. I have voltage in the brake wire of the led if the running is receiving and opposite turn signal of the one that is energized. is that my wiring or is that a circuit board problem with the lights?
Hi yes it's basically the same as what you made I chose the green and black wires ,the lights all come on when the switch is activated but the side chosen is a bit brighter I did exactly as you describe,what can I do thanks in advance
That is very strange. You've definitely grounded out the wires?
So, I'm a little confused ! Do the 2 wires from the double end of your diode splitter connect to the leftover wires that were cut or do they connect to left, right blinker wires from the switch ?
It connects to the incandescent bulb of the instrument cluster
I have a intruder 800 from 94 but cant find the flasher relay
what diode did u use
Hi I job you can help me i try to install led signal lights on my 1999 honda nighthawk 750 I get the resistance but doesn't work please help
Off to Jaycar for more bits n pieces 😂
Your LED flasher relay libk is no longer working.. Do you have another suggestion..? Thank you
May i know the amper of diode do you use.??
Will the diodes last long?
can you draw the wiring
Hey boss I'm having an issue I've completed a diode circuit as you showed in your video im working with a 86 suziki vs750 intruder light blue wire and black wire. My bike comes with a flasher relay already. When I turn the signal light on the left the signal light does not blank but the cluster turn light lights up but does not blink. When I click it to the right the flasher relay makes a loud buzzing noise and does not show the cluster light at all any ideas?
They all come with flasher relays, but you need an LED specific relay
I tried this on my Honda rebel 250 I watched this video over and over to make sure I did it right and did not work for me. My signals do absolutely nothing now and I already have an LED relay. I have check the fuses and that is not the problem. Not sure what else to do
Hi, sorry if i missed something, but does this exact process works only for the front indicators? What about the rear ones? Thanks
As long as you have a bike with a single, incandescent indicator bulb then this should work for all 4 flashers.
When I bought my 94 intruder the previous owner had replaced very small led indicators and they work well but the front display on the bike where there is an oil pressure light etc. The indicator light does not flash when indicators are on, even though the burner is intact. And if i give power to
the light directly from the battery it will start flicker. Is there any solution to such a problem?
Sounds like you need a new relay my friend.
So I made and installed my diode splitter as per you awesome tutorial (thankyou very much) now all indicators a working as they should but Im have a weird intermittent problem with the speedo. Sometimes the indicator bulb will flash as it's supposed to, and other times it wont flash at all (indicators still all work correctly just the dash light playing up) Also Im getting the speedo illumination bulb seems to fade in and out... really weird. I couldn't find any 1N4001 diodes and could only find 1N4004 (1A 400V) Do you think the extra voltage could be issue or have I buggered something up elsewhere? Any help or insight you could give me Hagar would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Hey brother, have you changed out the indicator relay for an LED one?
@ yep, a CF12ANL-01 LED flasher (max 150w)
Hey me again could you help me out please I ordered the kuryakyn kit installed exactly you said when I turn blinker on they all come on but the one side that's turned to is brighter stumped HELP thanks
I cant say I'm familiar with that kit my friend. Is it a simple y splitter like I made in the video?
Any idea if process will work on any motorcycle? Have vintage 85 Goldwing Limited.
I essence and theory...YES. providing your motorcycle only jas a single flashing light on your tacho/speedometer. BUT, you will need to find the correct wires for your bike, they will likely be different to mine. Be safe and find the workshop manual and the wiring diagram to check before cutting.
Behind the headlight of my 2007 1400, the large blue connector doesn't have that light green and blue wires.. but there are two smaller connectors with them. I'm guessing one is for blinker and other is for all for Flash. I've hit a road block
Find me on Facebook mykul and send me a message with photos of your wiring loom
I think I found you
LEGEND is this the same principle for a 600s bandit?
Providing the bandit only has one incandescent indicator bulb in the dash to indicate whether left or right blinkers are on then yes. If however that bike as a seperate left and a seperate right bulb on the dashboard, then no.
Does this affect the rear indicators as well.?
Yes it does :)
Anyone have the problem of rear turn signal works and front stay on (no blinking)
I didn’t did the diode install yet, just disconected the turn signal indicator.
(yamaha vstar250 2011)
hey brother did you ever install a relay? I did the diode on my vs1400 thank you very much and have the relay but perplexed how to attach it.
Did you get the orange adjustable kind off of ebay or amazon? The 2 pins should be like an 'L' shape. There is already a relay connect to the loom that needs removing and replacing.
@ nope straight 2 pins, black from amazon
The link is dead on your page here for the relay.
Find me on Facebook Josh. And ping me photos of what you're working with ;)
where did you find this LED Turn Signal ???..i have 1999 vs 400cc intruder and iam looking so long for led signals
Link in the description brother
Odds are this happening on a bike with a single turn signal indicator. This leads to the electrical "bleed". This can be fixed without adding additional wiring. As you can replace the single indicator bulb. It's a nonpolar LED "bulb". This moves the diodes from the outside wearing into this indicator bulb. The simpler than ever to install additional wiring.
I did this on 2003 Suzuki intruder 800, etc etc.
hi can you help. just fitted smaller indicators to my bike there not leads. now they are hyper blinking. these indicators have one wire coming from them and frame is used as earth .if I need a resistor how would this be wired.any help would be appreciated.
You may need to change the indicator relay my friend. Look at ebay for the orange type, the speed of them can be adjusted
@Hagar Moto - Intruder Viking thanks for your quick reply. when u put the hazards on they all blink normal ment to say its only the 2 rear I've changed🤔
Hi yes grounded could it be I need a led flasher could you post a link here please I don't see any where on this video where the link is thanks again
I'll add a link to the description for you.
@ thanks man how do I get to the description sorry I'm not the greatest on the computer
Hey so ordered diodes and made my own like you did I used diode 1n4001 1 A found a electronic flasher on Amazon not sure if it's the right one but now I'm getting all 4 flashing but a little brighter on the side switched not sure what I'm doing wrong any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Hello Sir, i have question. i have 4 aftermarket turnsignals. 2 for rear has 2 wires but for the front only has 1 wire ( black colour) . i am puzzled. maybe you can help me how to connect ?
Hi Anna, the single cable wires can often lead to a bit of a messy set up. Typically speaking, the single cable indicators use their physical selves to "ground" to the chassis, but I have often found i would need to add an additional wire and wrap it around the thread of the indicator and then ground the other end of the wire. Personally I would recommend finding the dual wire version and use thebexisting connection points your wiring harness has.
@ Thank you so much for your explanations and help,realy appreciate it.
Diode value pls
Hi Intruder Viking,
I have purchased led lights for my Aprilia Mx, I have purchased led correct relay, and diode kit. I have followed your instructions up until I need to install my diode cable. I have the wiring diagram but not sure what to look for. Any tips? All my indicators flash wether I select left or right indicators.
You need to find which wires in the loom that go to the incandescent bulb on the instrument cluster/speedo.
@ Okay great, the bulb that lights and flashes on the dashboard? Thank you very much for your reply!
Thats the one my friend
@ Thank you! Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but with perseverance I just might get there. 😁
@@TronsVsJosey neither am I brother. Keep at it, check twice before cutting ;)
Can you help me.
I had my headlight, speedometer and display on my suzuki intruder vs1400 91 disasembled for cleaning. I put it all back together and now i have an issue with my turn signals.
When I turn right it blinks in the right way, but when i turn left all 4 of my blinkers go off. It worked before I disasembled it. Please help.
First thing I'd try is a new turn signal relay. You may have a dodgy one.
@ i dont have any backlight on when the mc is turned on. But in parking it has. And when I pick out the plug for my display the turn signal works
I think something is wrong with my display. When I take out the lightbulp from my turn signal indicator, then my turn signals work again. I still havent figured out how to get front and tail light back though.
or it doesn't flicker it just lights up i meant.
What is the diode code to use ?
I have exactly same question with you
Link in description my friend
@thank you mate
why not just change the turn signal relay for about 15 bucks to a new and improved modern led turn signal relay that has the dial on it to control speed of flasher. i hate cutting into wiring usually in the long run I find if you cut into wires at some point it becomes a mess and causes problems. I avoid it at all cost.
Because unless the circuit is grounded at some point this won't fix the problem. The relay will only allow you to control the speed of the flashing, it will not split the circuit into the left and right side for the switch. If all for LED lights turn on and don't flash when flicking the turn signal switch, this is due to the incandescent instrument cluster bulb allowing the flow of electricity from one side of the circuit to the other, hence the diodes to stop this from happening.
@ Thanks for the explanation appreciate it if you have not done it you would not know this. Your help is appreciated.
Why not just fit an led relay instead of all this messing about?
Because, as mentioned at the end of the video, a relay only controls the speed of the flashing, it does not control power to each side of the circuit. The original wiring is not designed for LED bulbs which require a different voltage compared to incandescent bulbs and the splitter and diodes stops the additional voltage of the circuit "spilling" over in to the circuit that has not been turned on.
Hope this helps :)
Didn’t fix my problem/: just keep blowing fuses