The funniest thing is owonekko points out bigger creators can sway public opinon then tried to use her bigger platform to lie on a smaller creators name
Not to mention her saying to her followers they should come up with their own opinion on ai. And when these people with their own opinion with ai, either having long felt that way since learning about it's harmful effects or learning recently, either explaining in full detail why it's not good or just simply saying "AI bad", say they dont like it, she rejects them. I gotta say, I was really clinging to her channel. I tried to ignore the ai playlist since it caught me off guard, especially since in a short she admitted making music was hard, but seeing how she can't accept fans that feel differently... it's really upsetting. Not in a parasocial way, I've never felt parasocial with any online person thank god, but the hypocrisy in that statement alone was frustrating.
She literally inspired me to draw again after I stopped for years due to debilitating perfectionism that kept me from having fun with art anymore. It’s really disheartening to see her lash out at everyone just trying to hold her accountable. Plus as a black artist myself as well, her saying that people who disagree with her are racist just sent us all back a hundred steps.
@@Luna_Luv. frrrr !! It was so embarrassing to see tbh I get having hate isn't a good feeling but not listening to your fans at all and blocking them when they call you out is a terrible move 😭
Love the artstyle! Also as like a lurker and wanting to be a creator sometime… this whole drama is stupid. Like OwOnekko had really good representation but like… the fact she decided to misgender a person criticizing her actions AND support AI is wild to me. Like I didn’t watch her all that much but even I’m disappointed.
im so interested how some random artist would have such meltdown this bad over someone nicely criticizing her opinion with supporting AI her brain should be studied this is insane
I agree with your statements about the importance of bigger creators and swaying their ideas to the masses. But the way she went about this is very childish. She should know better.
And yet Owoneko calls herself “mature” and you can go to anyone and ask them if sending poop and silly pictures that tells the people who are criticizing her as mature. ITS VERY IMMATURE!!!
I thought that she was funny, and I really adored how her art looks. It’s so sad to see what is happening, since I cared for her a lot. I wish that she could apologize and handle this situation more maturely.
The way she excused calling Jouusta racist because, “she was lying about me saying Ai was good,” is so dumb. Like you DO realize those are DRASTICALLY different things! (also she made is seem like she thought ai was good tbh)
I'm a small art creator with almost 10k subs and I used to loved watching her content until the whole dumbass drama started. I've always hated AI but I don't mind if you use it for like a dumb meme for yourself but using Ai for nefarious purposes and feeding Ai with our art is a horrible thing and stealing from us creators. I am majorly disappointed a well loved creator like her turned to this path and try to sway the public opinion about her
HI!!! As a small creator, I TOTALLY AGREE with what you're saying about the big creator's changing opinions of small creators/audiences. Like no, it is always up to an individual to change/choose how they think. Love this video! (Edit: I hate how she says the person who called her out on her nonsense 'racist' because it waters down what racism is and as a former fan I'm so disappointed in how she's acting.)
As someone who is Black,used to be a fan of her,Trans,hates ai,got inspired by her to draw,wanting to make videos The whole situation was just a roundhouse kick to my guts 😞
Hi! I just wanted to touch a little bit on the “ai is okay if it’s used as a tool”, this isn’t meant to shit on you or anything, I would argue that using AI even for reference purposes isn’t a good thing. Even using it just as a tool, or as owonekko said she used it just for personal fun, regardless of intent, stolen artwork is still being scrapped and regurgitated to get something closer to what you want as a reference, I honestly think it would be both beneficial for the artist seeking inspiration to use references from the actual OG artists and their works, or to do a crappy photoshop type collage. Again, not coming for you or anything, I genuinely think most of what you said in this video is a good take on the situation. For me, I think my biggest issue with this whole situation is the blatant lack of respect for anybody involved. I also didn’t watch her ai playlist because I don’t support ai. The constant contradiction of the things she herself has been saying has just been absolutely outrageous to me. She says she doesn’t think bullying or lying is okay, and that it’s wrong for big accounts to criticize small accounts without switching over to an alt account, and then immediately turning around with a racist caricature of someone who was very respectful and thoughtful in her response to the ai stuff. She says she wants people to form their own opinions, but then takes the openness out of the conversation by removing comments, disabling comments, and deleting the live video to do some damage control. The misgendering and then repeatedly defending it was crazy, so was drawing herself shitting and farting on her followers for having a different opinion, despite the fact these same people are who make up her audience and they’re just “haters” now to her. She said in her live that personal growth was her priority, but I would argue that drawing a racist caricature of someone who didn’t even create an issue outside of your own head is absolutely not conducive to self growth. I loved Nondi’s Steven universe content, that’s how I found her in the first place, and I’m always looking for artists who I resonate with on social media, but all of this hypocrisy and straight up disrespect has me lost on it. If wanting her subscribers to support her for being her “most authentic self” means blindly going with the rhetoric of “I want a free pass to draw mean shit under the guise of being myself and have other mean people egg me on”, I’m glad to not be a subscriber of hers anymore.
@ThatOneAndy I agree with you 100% I realize I didn't go into full depth of my take on ai and I'm glad you brought this up. My stance on ai is that it's shouldn't be used period, I think it's less bad if used as a tool and not a replacement but it's still bad and takes away from other artist, I think using ai can be funny like what Neko did in the songs but she still shouldn't do it especially since the site she used to create it doesn't say where the music is coming from which is scummy and suspicious. But to summarize I think ai shouldn't be used even if it's funny to do so, especially with profiting off the video like Neko did. (I hope this explains my feelings in depth lolz:'D )
@@N3RD.3005 yeah monetizing that video was super scuzzy, really really hate that she did that. And no worries, this wasn’t an in depth analysis of your views on ai or anything and you said yourself it was unscripted as well. Ai sites like that are so vague about their sources for training and it’s so gross. And I’m tired of the ai bros being like “ai is the future just wait til it’s regulated” when I’m worried about the HERE and NOW
@@ThatOneAndy I don't think they'll ever really regulate it to the point it can't be exploited by big corporations they'll always be scummy about it especially if they buy them off or something 😭
@@N3RD.3005 seriously, not to mention anyone can make their own ai if they have the know how and they can use it offline which means NO regulations PERIOD. Ai is so problematic and used for so many things worse than theft of intellectual property, it’s fucking nefariously evil
I’m not so worried about using it as a tool as much since people don’t usually copy references one to one and often use multiple references to make a piece, not all of which will be ai, I’m worried about using it as a tool due to its environmental impacts
I used to love watching her videos and it makes me so sad that she would be so disrespectful to not only to her fans but also to someone who was just calmly stating her own opinion. They both have their opinions but the fact that she would make that thumbnail so childish and weird disappoints me. I wish I could just have a fav artist without them being problematic 💔
@stupidheadwisp thank you sm lolz I was trying to script a video like yesterday and when I tried to record it I just rambled like normal so I'll probably never do a scripted video ☠️😭
@Scaracatiscute._. hmm I don't personally use c.ai bc I think it's boring but I don't have a big problem with it.. I think it could be harmful but I also know alot of things used ai technology for ppl to talk to way b4 c.ai and it's never been really a problem so basically idc lol :"D
Hi! As a person who used ai chats, I will tell you that it's all good if it is for fun and games, it may help if you are feeling alone BUT! It's also very dangerous. People before fell for getting attached to virtual characters in dating games, and with introduction of AI this is getting less of a rarity and more of a possibility when the userbase uses it as a therapy or escapism. Some apps also make their AI suggest NOT to go out or seek real therapy to trap the userbase more. Humans are hard to be with, it's true, but if you use it please don't fall for those schemes!
character ai is meant for *characters* and lately there’s been a lot more *people* having AI bots made of them. It’s ok as a temporary solution but in the end talking to real people will always be better.
I’m someone who hates ai but finds ai bots fun and in my OPINION I think that as long as your not making bots of real people, not being attached 2 the bots or using peoples voices 4 ai it’s fine
3:47 Fr like that’s how teenagers act I had this friend and she was darker than me and we would joke around she would always be like “Is It ‘CaUsE i’M bLaCk” but we would be JOKING and we’re FRIENDS it’s a JOKE I’m mixed and she would call me a “zebra” AS.👏A. 👏JOKE.👏 we were close friends and she KNEW it was a joke I KNEW it was a joke and yea idk :/ i never really watched owonekko but she’s 30 and acting like a frick fracking kid
Lol I had a friend like that in middle school, really loved her. What's crazy was how we were the two black kids in the friend group, and nobody else got offended or took it seriously when she said "it's cuz I'm black, huh", because we knew there was no actual racism and she was joking. But this one kid always got a little pissed, and now I'm looking at him sideways...
Thing is she drew more negative attention to it by reacting like she did. All she had to do was ignore it, and a majority of her viewers wouldnt even knew about that ai music playlist. Also she wouldnt have made herself look like a 30 yr old crybaby that cant take even a tad bit of criticism without throwing insults in every direction.
She called someone racist despite the fact she did something racist????? (For context OwOneko made a whitewashed version of herself that was evil. She made a evil race swapped version of herself) Edit: the reason I say it's racist is because who the hell makes the "evil version" of themselves a different race?????
@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440 OMFG I FORGOT SHE DID THAT it was so weird I'm black (obviously) and I don't really like when ppl use stereotypes like her oc being obsessed with Popeyes chicken jst left a bad taste in my mouth (maybe bc I'm allergic to Popeyes tho 🤧😿)
The funniest thing is owonekko points out bigger creators can sway public opinon then tried to use her bigger platform to lie on a smaller creators name
@@hexx9065 😭😭
Not to mention her saying to her followers they should come up with their own opinion on ai. And when these people with their own opinion with ai, either having long felt that way since learning about it's harmful effects or learning recently, either explaining in full detail why it's not good or just simply saying "AI bad", say they dont like it, she rejects them.
I gotta say, I was really clinging to her channel. I tried to ignore the ai playlist since it caught me off guard, especially since in a short she admitted making music was hard, but seeing how she can't accept fans that feel differently... it's really upsetting. Not in a parasocial way, I've never felt parasocial with any online person thank god, but the hypocrisy in that statement alone was frustrating.
She literally inspired me to draw again after I stopped for years due to debilitating perfectionism that kept me from having fun with art anymore. It’s really disheartening to see her lash out at everyone just trying to hold her accountable. Plus as a black artist myself as well, her saying that people who disagree with her are racist just sent us all back a hundred steps.
@@joonbee I AGREE WITH THIS 100%
Nah cause I was her biggest fan but how she 30 and tryna shit on a teenager 😭
@@Luna_Luv. frrrr !! It was so embarrassing to see tbh I get having hate isn't a good feeling but not listening to your fans at all and blocking them when they call you out is a terrible move 😭
@@N3RD.3005 IKR???This shit made me so sad. Also I really love your art style!!!I hope u keep making videos cause I will eat them up respectfully ❤️
@Luna_Luv. thank you sm !! I will definitely continue to make videos:] ❤️
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Wait she's 30? 💀??? A teenager is more mature than her 😭
Love the artstyle! Also as like a lurker and wanting to be a creator sometime… this whole drama is stupid. Like OwOnekko had really good representation but like… the fact she decided to misgender a person criticizing her actions AND support AI is wild to me. Like I didn’t watch her all that much but even I’m disappointed.
SORRY IF THE ART IS BAD I'M A BEGINNER ARTIST D:
Yum art
@@Sillylittleguyw Thank you !!
@@N3RD.3005 np!!!
NO BC YOUR ART IS GOOD
Ur art is amazing!
WHY DO PEOPLE WANNA BE LAZY AND USE CRAPPY ART GENARATOR WHICH STEAL OTHERS ART😭😭😭😭
Cus they don’t wanna actually be artists😍
This is so true plus I heard she is about/to turn 30 and acting like this?! 💀
@AlexHehe-pi1jo 30 AND DOING THIS IS CRAZEE 😭🙏🏽
And here I thought she was another teen 😭
@ShinyShilla I thought she was at least 20
SHE'S ABOUT TO TURN 30???
im so interested how some random artist would have such meltdown this bad over someone nicely criticizing her opinion with supporting AI
her brain should be studied this is insane
genuinely this situation makes me so sad because i used to love her content
Frrr 😭
I agree with your statements about the importance of bigger creators and swaying their ideas to the masses. But the way she went about this is very childish. She should know better.
@bobatea9922 it was so childish fr the poopy fart humor on her tweets were not helping her case lmao 😭😭
@@N3RD.3005 they were not 💀
And yet Owoneko calls herself “mature” and you can go to anyone and ask them if sending poop and silly pictures that tells the people who are criticizing her as mature. ITS VERY IMMATURE!!!
your art style is so cute! it reminds me of the little reactions from ouran high school host club
@@sebyt354 thank you !! I haven't watch Ouran high school host club in so long tbh I might pick it up again 😭
Wait FRRR
Screw it, your cool, art is cool, opinions are cool, you have gained a new sub.
@@DoctorDuckie-lu3sb Omgee thank you !!
ILOVE YOUR ARTSTYLE
@@marialowe9251 THANK YOU SM !!
I thought that she was funny, and I really adored how her art looks. It’s so sad to see what is happening, since I cared for her a lot. I wish that she could apologize and handle this situation more maturely.
The way she excused calling Jouusta racist because, “she was lying about me saying Ai was good,” is so dumb. Like you DO realize those are DRASTICALLY different things! (also she made is seem like she thought ai was good tbh)
I really hope you see this cause I LOVE UR ARTSTYLE SM it makes me so happy to just look at it !!
@@Mistyyfairyy HEHE THANK YOU 🤭🤭
I'm a small art creator with almost 10k subs and I used to loved watching her content until the whole dumbass drama started. I've always hated AI but I don't mind if you use it for like a dumb meme for yourself but using Ai for nefarious purposes and feeding Ai with our art is a horrible thing and stealing from us creators. I am majorly disappointed a well loved creator like her turned to this path and try to sway the public opinion about her
Yippee! we love rambleing about drama! :D
this was very well constructed even without a script, i like your oc btw X3
@@mazikeenLUver thank you lolz :D
sighhh new ytber to subscribe 2.. i love ur art sm,,
@@estoyswatch HEHE THANK U !!
jouusta: "hey i think ur opinion is kinda not good"
owonekko: "ok ur racist"
that's not even... wHAT?
HI!!! As a small creator, I TOTALLY AGREE with what you're saying about the big creator's changing opinions of small creators/audiences.
Like no, it is always up to an individual to change/choose how they think.
Love this video!
(Edit: I hate how she says the person who called her out on her nonsense 'racist' because it waters down what racism is and as a former fan I'm so disappointed in how she's acting.)
I love your style! Reminds me of the 2000s in a really cool new way! ^^
Good video :D
@@RaiBlu10 thank you ^^ !!
ur art style is so cute
(Kinda related) making a script is so much better. And going over and practicing the script makes it more clear!! Anyway keep up the good work
I genuinely thought you would have over 50k subs you're so cool
@@weeeee773 LMAO thank you 😭🙏🏽❤️
Nice artstyle lol
Ur art looks awesome
Keep it up lolz :D
As someone who is Black,used to be a fan of her,Trans,hates ai,got inspired by her to draw,wanting to make videos
The whole situation was just a roundhouse kick to my guts 😞
@UniRazzleX3 Frrr it's honestly so disappointing
I don’t have much to say so I’m just commenting to boost your channel💖
Hi! I just wanted to touch a little bit on the “ai is okay if it’s used as a tool”, this isn’t meant to shit on you or anything, I would argue that using AI even for reference purposes isn’t a good thing. Even using it just as a tool, or as owonekko said she used it just for personal fun, regardless of intent, stolen artwork is still being scrapped and regurgitated to get something closer to what you want as a reference, I honestly think it would be both beneficial for the artist seeking inspiration to use references from the actual OG artists and their works, or to do a crappy photoshop type collage. Again, not coming for you or anything, I genuinely think most of what you said in this video is a good take on the situation.
For me, I think my biggest issue with this whole situation is the blatant lack of respect for anybody involved. I also didn’t watch her ai playlist because I don’t support ai. The constant contradiction of the things she herself has been saying has just been absolutely outrageous to me. She says she doesn’t think bullying or lying is okay, and that it’s wrong for big accounts to criticize small accounts without switching over to an alt account, and then immediately turning around with a racist caricature of someone who was very respectful and thoughtful in her response to the ai stuff. She says she wants people to form their own opinions, but then takes the openness out of the conversation by removing comments, disabling comments, and deleting the live video to do some damage control. The misgendering and then repeatedly defending it was crazy, so was drawing herself shitting and farting on her followers for having a different opinion, despite the fact these same people are who make up her audience and they’re just “haters” now to her. She said in her live that personal growth was her priority, but I would argue that drawing a racist caricature of someone who didn’t even create an issue outside of your own head is absolutely not conducive to self growth. I loved Nondi’s Steven universe content, that’s how I found her in the first place, and I’m always looking for artists who I resonate with on social media, but all of this hypocrisy and straight up disrespect has me lost on it. If wanting her subscribers to support her for being her “most authentic self” means blindly going with the rhetoric of “I want a free pass to draw mean shit under the guise of being myself and have other mean people egg me on”, I’m glad to not be a subscriber of hers anymore.
@ThatOneAndy I agree with you 100% I realize I didn't go into full depth of my take on ai and I'm glad you brought this up. My stance on ai is that it's shouldn't be used period, I think it's less bad if used as a tool and not a replacement but it's still bad and takes away from other artist, I think using ai can be funny like what Neko did in the songs but she still shouldn't do it especially since the site she used to create it doesn't say where the music is coming from which is scummy and suspicious. But to summarize I think ai shouldn't be used even if it's funny to do so, especially with profiting off the video like Neko did. (I hope this explains my feelings in depth lolz:'D )
@@N3RD.3005 yeah monetizing that video was super scuzzy, really really hate that she did that. And no worries, this wasn’t an in depth analysis of your views on ai or anything and you said yourself it was unscripted as well. Ai sites like that are so vague about their sources for training and it’s so gross. And I’m tired of the ai bros being like “ai is the future just wait til it’s regulated” when I’m worried about the HERE and NOW
@@ThatOneAndy I don't think they'll ever really regulate it to the point it can't be exploited by big corporations they'll always be scummy about it especially if they buy them off or something 😭
@@N3RD.3005 seriously, not to mention anyone can make their own ai if they have the know how and they can use it offline which means NO regulations PERIOD. Ai is so problematic and used for so many things worse than theft of intellectual property, it’s fucking nefariously evil
I’m not so worried about using it as a tool as much since people don’t usually copy references one to one and often use multiple references to make a piece, not all of which will be ai, I’m worried about using it as a tool due to its environmental impacts
2000s artstyle lets goooo
Atleast she didn’t get called out as a child diddler🙏
It's wild how that's the bare minimum now
*hand slips to the subscribe button* whoops.
I used to love watching her videos and it makes me so sad that she would be so disrespectful to not only to her fans but also to someone who was just calmly stating her own opinion. They both have their opinions but the fact that she would make that thumbnail so childish and weird disappoints me. I wish I could just have a fav artist without them being problematic 💔
@@Just_s0me_rand0m_artist real 😭
Real tho, like ... she seems to be unable to take any critisism it's not a good look 😓😓😓
dude you made my video look like crap lol, good job man
@DelayDan LMAO thank you, yours was way more focused tho 😭
@@N3RD.3005 eh don't sweat it I scripted like 80%, it impresses me to see another small creator being able to articulate as well as you did
I love unscripted videos because they feel more like talking to a friend than a youtuber if that makes sense
@stupidheadwisp thank you sm lolz I was trying to script a video like yesterday and when I tried to record it I just rambled like normal so I'll probably never do a scripted video ☠️😭
What's your opinion on people who hate ai but use c,ai in private?.. I'm lonely n like talking to my favorite character
@Scaracatiscute._. hmm I don't personally use c.ai bc I think it's boring but I don't have a big problem with it.. I think it could be harmful but I also know alot of things used ai technology for ppl to talk to way b4 c.ai and it's never been really a problem so basically idc lol :"D
Hi! As a person who used ai chats, I will tell you that it's all good if it is for fun and games, it may help if you are feeling alone BUT! It's also very dangerous. People before fell for getting attached to virtual characters in dating games, and with introduction of AI this is getting less of a rarity and more of a possibility when the userbase uses it as a therapy or escapism. Some apps also make their AI suggest NOT to go out or seek real therapy to trap the userbase more. Humans are hard to be with, it's true, but if you use it please don't fall for those schemes!
character ai is meant for *characters* and lately there’s been a lot more *people* having AI bots made of them. It’s ok as a temporary solution but in the end talking to real people will always be better.
@@KleptoKlaws yea it starts to be a gray area when you bring up the fact that they make real ppl as bots and now they have voices and can be called
I’m someone who hates ai but finds ai bots fun and in my OPINION I think that as long as your not making bots of real people, not being attached 2 the bots or using peoples voices 4 ai it’s fine
DIABOLICAL situation
Awesome video! Subscribing
3:47 Fr like that’s how teenagers act I had this friend and she was darker than me and we would joke around she would always be like “Is It ‘CaUsE i’M bLaCk” but we would be JOKING and we’re FRIENDS it’s a JOKE I’m mixed and she would call me a “zebra” AS.👏A. 👏JOKE.👏 we were close friends and she KNEW it was a joke I KNEW it was a joke and yea idk :/ i never really watched owonekko but she’s 30 and acting like a frick fracking kid
Also this vid was great u earned a new sub
Lol I had a friend like that in middle school, really loved her. What's crazy was how we were the two black kids in the friend group, and nobody else got offended or took it seriously when she said "it's cuz I'm black, huh", because we knew there was no actual racism and she was joking. But this one kid always got a little pissed, and now I'm looking at him sideways...
Me n my friends did this sm in middle skool 😭
Thing is she drew more negative attention to it by reacting like she did. All she had to do was ignore it, and a majority of her viewers wouldnt even knew about that ai music playlist. Also she wouldnt have made herself look like a 30 yr old crybaby that cant take even a tad bit of criticism without throwing insults in every direction.
@TearfulZorua i saw the ai video and ignored it bc I don't support ai if she didn't react like this i wouldn't even remember seeing it
If you are going to get mad at people criticizing what you are going to say then just don’t say it???? It’s so childish 😭😭😭 luv your art though
Great video. Maybe lose flashy visuals tho, sincerely someone with epilepsy.
@CreativaArtly I'm so sorry ill put a epilepsy waring if I use them again and I'll put a warning in the title
@@N3RD.3005 ok 👍🏻
OMG MASTER SHAKE LIKER 😽😽😽
@@strawberrycheesecake6788 OMG I LOVE MASTER SHAKE 😸😸😸
I’m new here and I haven’t watched the video yet but I LOVE your style :)!!! Subscribingnnggngngnggg
@@MCFLURRYJESTER thank you !!
Hypocrisy thy name is OwONekko
She called someone racist despite the fact she did something racist?????
(For context OwOneko made a whitewashed version of herself that was evil. She made a evil race swapped version of herself)
Edit: the reason I say it's racist is because who the hell makes the "evil version" of themselves a different race?????
@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440 OMFG I FORGOT SHE DID THAT it was so weird I'm black (obviously) and I don't really like when ppl use stereotypes like her oc being obsessed with Popeyes chicken jst left a bad taste in my mouth (maybe bc I'm allergic to Popeyes tho 🤧😿)
Ur cool
@@FernTheArtiz thank you ^^