@@adambillen5164 Life from the Loam is a staple in the deck. Having a permanent answer seems like a more robust solution than a one off response. Of course you'll want to evaluate which silver bullet to tutor for base on whatever game state you happen to be in.
Something I realized during the painter match that didn’t come up but might be good to have in the back of your mind is that flickerwisp can turn your witch enchanter land back into a creature, should the need for a disenchant arise.
It was cool to see you back on a deck you are very comfortable with. You have had a clunky line or two in recent videos owing I assume to you playing with a bunch of new cards and it is a lot of fun to really see a deck go in your hands. Keep up the good work. Speaking of new cards and the new lines they enable, you had a few times this video where you missed Flickerwhisp-ing Witch-Blessed Meadow to get a Witch Enchanter ETB. R4 G2 around 45 min into the video in particular you could have freed up the aether vial to get access to Yorion and Solitude (and as a result disenchant a ton of other material) despite the lack of lands.
[12:51] If you hit the karakas instead of the maze you would be able to stick Phelia and start blinking the white orchid every turn, to then start killing all of the mazes. And if they copy the karakas then the land dies without giving them their basic.
@@ThrabenUniversity If they choose to copy it, yes. Since they can copy anything, we can't ever take them off any of the tech lands, but by hitting karakas we force them to legend rule their land and be down one. And they might not copy it, for whatever reason.
A fun line I was thinking about around 45 minutes in: if you Flickerwisped your own Witch-Blessed Meadow, it would come back as a Witch Enchanter and could destroy the opponent's Pithing Needle on ETB.
At 45:37 there was a cool play of flickering your own Witch Meadow to take out the Pithing Needle to unlock the Vials. I don't think it would've changed the outcome of the game, as the pile of vials you got left you without action.
@@ThrabenUniversity once the aether vial is free tho you had a nice onslaught of solitude, yorion reflickering stuff, and blockers for days gumming up the board with their creatures baring down.
@@ThrabenUniversity Just Recruiter for Witch Enchanter and play it as a land? That seems like the play given your stream of Solitudes - it seemed that if you get 5th mana you'll just win (since you get full value off your Solitudes and Yorion). Even Welder isn't THAT scary if you can remove it after one-two rounds; Engine will do some grinding but they won't likely get combo.
note that the flickerwisp can actually flicker a land mdfc 45:34 so if you wanted to kill the token that is a better way, just target the land that flips into a 2/2 that destroys the token / needle
feel like taking out karakas in game one would have sped that up a fair bit. being able to attack with phelia and bounce the LD creature would have gotten you out from under the maze's and locked them out of slow rolling the combo.
I found a cool green/white 2 card combo from the new set! draw 1-4 cards a turn every turn with this creature combo. Cards for combo are, Evolution witness (New card), Luminarch Aspirant, Ornery tumblewag/ or siege veteran in play. Any fetch lands or Mishras bauble good in gy. Play luminarch then play evo witness get back fetch, bauble, creature every turn on trigger. Is it good. Not really, but it is fun. Can be game winning if not answered. Its kind of like lurris combo but you need 2 creatures in play instead of just Lurris. However its anything in gy so it gets lands and other things dont care about cmc either. Combo is Witness lets you get stuff from GY to hand every turn mostly being fetch or bauble or creature depending on what you want to get back. I played it in azban taxes hatenbears shell, it was playable and good at times. Cards needed in deck to play this combo are, 4 evolution witness, 4 luminarch aspirant, 4 ornery tumblewag/ or 4 siege veteran any fetchlands, baubles, creatures, or anything you can get back from gy. Does goes infinite with wasteland if played in a legacy deck, i should say can be a "wasteland lock" 1 per turn or more.
Seeing your opponent take a lot of game actions, then scoop was hilarious. I think Necrodominance is going to be better suited as a midrange fair card. We'll see though.
Also also, if we're running the Flagstones White Orchid package, I enjoy a pair of Ghost Quarters with it. 10 Wasteland effects seem to work very very well in the meta right now.
i think we threw round 4 game 1. when flickerwisp blinked meadow and in the end step it came back as witchmeadow enchanter, we ought of targeted pithing needle. then vial becomes unlocked to use with solitude and yorion. and have a 2/2 on board that could be blinked by yorion to kill the construct later. instead we were hoping for a 5th land and we had a useless vial on 5
46:01 I think vial in solitude to hit welder and then play sanctifier to permanently block fury, then next turn yorion and block solitude was a better line?
Pithing Needle is in play on Vial. That’s why he did what he did. But as some other people also noticed, Flickerwisp can target your own lands. So if he would’ve target his Witch enchanter (was on landslide) instead of an Urza token it would’ve entered the battlefield on the front side and he would’ve been able to blow up the pitching needle.
@@amazingpeptobismol Weird, i thought it must be the video because my audio was working ok other youtube videos and conitnued to not work on this video. I can hear the audio now though. I wonder what happened.
@mangodude6790 Video loads on YT videos first, so a lot of the time, if you get in to a video fast enough the video might not have audio until you reload.
The necrodominance decks look stupid fun! I'm surprised somebody hasn't shoved a copy or 2 of Fateful Showdown in necrodominance decks. Seems like a better beseech target than tendrils!
I am very surprised to not see any guide of souls or ocelot pride at 1. I do agree that giver seems like it might have more merit than mom here too. Also how would you feel about replacing the one of eiganjo with an emeria to hit some incidental recursion if a game goes long?
I can, and will, continue to complain about the current Necro decks. I don't care if the deck has a high failrate. My opponent going full send and scooping on T1 before I play a card is not fun. I don't care that I won. I want to play magic.
Aether Vial vs Mox Diamond? nearly no 1drops, Vial just gets you a second play on turn3, vs MoxDiamond potentially putting hatebears/sinkhole turn **1**
In the painter match you kept saying that painter could crew hearse which is simply not true. Hearse is crew 2….. what kind of ancient tomb gamer are you :😂
I love the new D&T build but I absolutely hate Phelia in it XD. I've been testing it out myself, but it never really feels like it does anything that is actually impactful. I feel like its resto angel.. But not quite resto angel.
MoM not hitting colorless to beat Maze of Ith or Karakas really makes me think Giver of Runes might have a spot as a one of for a recruiter target.
with eldrazi also possibly showing up being devoid Giver could help there as well.
If you're dedicating a recruiter to this, why not just get a phantom to take out the land itself and leave a better body behind that can attack?
@@adambillen5164 Life from the Loam is a staple in the deck. Having a permanent answer seems like a more robust solution than a one off response. Of course you'll want to evaluate which silver bullet to tutor for base on whatever game state you happen to be in.
the energy counter card you were looking for is "Wrath of the Skies"
There we go!
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Something I realized during the painter match that didn’t come up but might be good to have in the back of your mind is that flickerwisp can turn your witch enchanter land back into a creature, should the need for a disenchant arise.
That is a use i didn't think of, i likes it
I thought of that when he showed off the list at the beginning of the video, I figured he would do it at least once in this league
White Orchid Phantom is a beautiful Magic card. Keep up the good work, Phil!
It was cool to see you back on a deck you are very comfortable with. You have had a clunky line or two in recent videos owing I assume to you playing with a bunch of new cards and it is a lot of fun to really see a deck go in your hands. Keep up the good work.
Speaking of new cards and the new lines they enable, you had a few times this video where you missed Flickerwhisp-ing Witch-Blessed Meadow to get a Witch Enchanter ETB. R4 G2 around 45 min into the video in particular you could have freed up the aether vial to get access to Yorion and Solitude (and as a result disenchant a ton of other material) despite the lack of lands.
I forgot you can Flickerwisp MDFCs!
If you Flickerwisp a Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass, does it just stay exiled forever?
Either that or it goes to the GY
@@CharlotteMimicYes.
307.4. Sorceries can’t enter the battlefield. If a sorcery would enter the battlefield, it remains in its previous zone instead.
Keep in mind Phelia can flicker permanants. So things like fable and wandering emperor end up as extra value.
Oooh, what about Restoration of Eiganjo? The second chapter can even bring back Phelia, while helping ensure that you keep making land drops.
Seeing Velgrim again lose spectacularly again in round two (20:53) brings me joy.
Glad to see DnT get buffed after MH3. One of my favorite decks ever
i mean, the flying on this thing is a little bullshit. but i do second this, such a great magic card
[12:51] If you hit the karakas instead of the maze you would be able to stick Phelia and start blinking the white orchid every turn, to then start killing all of the mazes. And if they copy the karakas then the land dies without giving them their basic.
Sooo your line leaves them with a Karakas to invalidate the Phelia that you describe as the reason for taking the line in the first place?
@@ThrabenUniversity If they choose to copy it, yes. Since they can copy anything, we can't ever take them off any of the tech lands, but by hitting karakas we force them to legend rule their land and be down one. And they might not copy it, for whatever reason.
A fun line I was thinking about around 45 minutes in: if you Flickerwisped your own Witch-Blessed Meadow, it would come back as a Witch Enchanter and could destroy the opponent's Pithing Needle on ETB.
D&T back from the mines, heck yeah!
flickerwisp targeting Land version of Witch Enchanter is also interesting tech
One thing I’ve found really nice is playing one surveil land to fetch off flagstones. In a yorion deck the cost is lower and the upside is real
" GG's... great deck.... lol. Brutal but truthful. 😂
Phil on D&T, im watching.
At 45:37 there was a cool play of flickering your own Witch Meadow to take out the Pithing Needle to unlock the Vials.
I don't think it would've changed the outcome of the game, as the pile of vials you got left you without action.
I think I probably need my own land in that game.
@@ThrabenUniversity once the aether vial is free tho you had a nice onslaught of solitude, yorion reflickering stuff, and blockers for days gumming up the board with their creatures baring down.
@@ThrabenUniversity Just Recruiter for Witch Enchanter and play it as a land? That seems like the play given your stream of Solitudes - it seemed that if you get 5th mana you'll just win (since you get full value off your Solitudes and Yorion). Even Welder isn't THAT scary if you can remove it after one-two rounds; Engine will do some grinding but they won't likely get combo.
1:26 Also a way to have low oppcost enchantment removal, vs beans, energy field, and other stuff
I'm excited to see this deck with Tax Collector from Assassins creed
I like that recruiter finds land now. It seems odd. I don't think, it has many cases, where you would do it. But I certainly like having the option.
note that the flickerwisp can actually flicker a land mdfc 45:34
so if you wanted to kill the token that is a better way, just target the land that flips into a 2/2 that destroys the token / needle
I probably need that land though.
feel like taking out karakas in game one would have sped that up a fair bit. being able to attack with phelia and bounce the LD creature would have gotten you out from under the maze's and locked them out of slow rolling the combo.
I found a cool green/white 2 card combo from the new set! draw 1-4 cards a turn every turn with this creature combo. Cards for combo are, Evolution witness (New card), Luminarch Aspirant, Ornery tumblewag/ or siege veteran in play. Any fetch lands or Mishras bauble good in gy. Play luminarch then play evo witness get back fetch, bauble, creature every turn on trigger. Is it good. Not really, but it is fun. Can be game winning if not answered. Its kind of like lurris combo but you need 2 creatures in play instead of just Lurris. However its anything in gy so it gets lands and other things dont care about cmc either. Combo is Witness lets you get stuff from GY to hand every turn mostly being fetch or bauble or creature depending on what you want to get back. I played it in azban taxes hatenbears shell, it was playable and good at times. Cards needed in deck to play this combo are, 4 evolution witness, 4 luminarch aspirant, 4 ornery tumblewag/ or 4 siege veteran any fetchlands, baubles, creatures, or anything you can get back from gy. Does goes infinite with wasteland if played in a legacy deck, i should say can be a "wasteland lock" 1 per turn or more.
21:37 urza take the wheel
Maybe horizon lands if we're looking for white producing utility? Eiganjo castle is a card I guess
Seeing your opponent take a lot of game actions, then scoop was hilarious. I think Necrodominance is going to be better suited as a midrange fair card. We'll see though.
You took more time sideboarding for match 2 game 2 than you did playing game 1
Has anyone questioned if you should have a containment priest to recruiter for as with phelia she just exiles a creature evry turn.
DNT OFF DEALERS CHOICE BABY LETS GO PHILLY IS BACK. MONO WHITE BABY. BASIC PLAINS = BROKEN. YORION FOR LIFE BABY.
Also also, if we're running the Flagstones White Orchid package, I enjoy a pair of Ghost Quarters with it. 10 Wasteland effects seem to work very very well in the meta right now.
I like casting my WW card on turn 2 more than I like having GQ in my deck.
@@ThrabenUniversity Fair enough :)
No aven interruptor seems like a huge miss. Was that card not on the radar when you were brewing? Or was it specifically weighed out?
I have never clicked faster
Glad to see you do some D&T content. Any thoughts on what to cut for Pre-War Formalwear?
This isn't a refined and tested decklist, so I can't speak with confidence.
i think we threw round 4 game 1. when flickerwisp blinked meadow and in the end step it came back as witchmeadow enchanter, we ought of targeted pithing needle. then vial becomes unlocked to use with solitude and yorion. and have a 2/2 on board that could be blinked by yorion to kill the construct later. instead we were hoping for a 5th land and we had a useless vial on 5
22:19 I guess Tony just had a run on video (stream?) with enough hits to have a long win streak like 9. IIRC
game one I think you missed lethal by not flickering marit lage with phelia
Is Thalia the reason this deck has faerie macabre instead of surgical extraction ?
Search for it off recruiter
46:01 I think vial in solitude to hit welder and then play sanctifier to permanently block fury, then next turn yorion and block solitude was a better line?
Pithing Needle is in play on Vial. That’s why he did what he did.
But as some other people also noticed, Flickerwisp can target your own lands. So if he would’ve target his Witch enchanter (was on landslide) instead of an Urza token it would’ve entered the battlefield on the front side and he would’ve been able to blow up the pitching needle.
@@isalundstrom4778 ahhh thanks…. That’s what I get for half paying attention while doing the dishes lol
Wouldn't splash for black for bowmasters and some other quality cards make sense if we are 75 card deck anyway?
I think a black splash is a reasonable but not mandatory way to approach the deck.
There's no audio in this video.
Edit: There was audio. Another viewer told me what was likely wrong, I watched the video too early.
Audio ok on my end
@@amazingpeptobismol Weird, i thought it must be the video because my audio was working ok other youtube videos and conitnued to not work on this video. I can hear the audio now though. I wonder what happened.
@mangodude6790 Video loads on YT videos first, so a lot of the time, if you get in to a video fast enough the video might not have audio until you reload.
@@christopherlee9026That makes sense. It was 33 seconds after upload.
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The necrodominance decks look stupid fun! I'm surprised somebody hasn't shoved a copy or 2 of Fateful Showdown in necrodominance decks. Seems like a better beseech target than tendrils!
I am very surprised to not see any guide of souls or ocelot pride at 1. I do agree that giver seems like it might have more merit than mom here too. Also how would you feel about replacing the one of eiganjo with an emeria to hit some incidental recursion if a game goes long?
Emeria enters tapped, and is thus not playable given that its upside would almost never happen.
what are your thoughts on phelia and containment priest?
Can someone explain the Eiganjo Castle? I think I'm missing an interaction.
Prevent 2 damage for Phelia
@@_DG_ So it's just to deal with Lightning Bolt, pretty much?
@@quincywilliams9860 Even on the Combat it's good
Can't wait for everyone to start running 4x gut shot in the sideboard for all of these greedy necrodominance players that go to 1 life on turn 1. 😂
Funishing Pire?
I can, and will, continue to complain about the current Necro decks.
I don't care if the deck has a high failrate.
My opponent going full send and scooping on T1 before I play a card is not fun. I don't care that I won. I want to play magic.
Wouldnt it be better to play giver of runes since since it can give pro colorless?
The cards do different things despite being very similar.
Witch Enchanter? Dis-Enchanter.
Yep, that’s the reason why R&D called it Witch Enchanter in the first place
Aether Vial vs Mox Diamond? nearly no 1drops, Vial just gets you a second play on turn3, vs MoxDiamond potentially putting hatebears/sinkhole turn **1**
Did you use my dealers choice on D&T? I don't think that that technically counts as a dealers choice if it's something I'd also ask for haha
LOLOLOLOL
Did you miss Rishadan Port?
No
I wasn't impressed by Bryans Necrodominance video from the other day. Love the new DnT pieces, tho. Great vid!
I don't understand. @ 54:40, you should have paid 3 to play which enchanter??
take 3 damage to play witch enchanter so it cant get got by thougtseize
@@andrewwang7699 take 3 damage to play which enchanter? ;)
@@suzettedarrow8739he paid 3 life to play that enchanter
@@flav_jja i think bosh got lucky bc oppo woulda won if they had dismember D:
In the painter match you kept saying that painter could crew hearse which is simply not true. Hearse is crew 2….. what kind of ancient tomb gamer are you :😂
Dnt!!!
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On game 1 probably would be better to destroy karakas to drop the dog and keep destroying lands every turn
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Phil after 3 matches :), Phil after 5 matches :/ meh.
I love the new D&T build but I absolutely hate Phelia in it XD. I've been testing it out myself, but it never really feels like it does anything that is actually impactful. I feel like its resto angel.. But not quite resto angel.
This deck is bullcrap.
Sincerely, an Eldrazi player who got all of their lands destroyed and Endless Ones blinked.
Necro.dec is just oops circa RTR. Everybody’s gonna be scared, and it’s gonna be a good deck, and force of will exists
Pls bring back probe and misstep /s /terror /pleasedontactually