She can’t summon until Pinnacle Rocks and then is silenced for a big chunk of her availability, plus the fact that she has to learn them over time- I’d say she can’t summon for at least 1/2 of the game if not more.
Quina really is the god character, can literally do everything: Attack damage is respectable with good Add Status options Cook insta-kills enemies below 50% hp which just gets better as the game goes on The Millionaire ability is absolutely incredible, you definitely can struggle with Gil in this game because of how expensive buying/synthing a lot of items can be. You also can have this as soon as you get Quina. More HP than the other casters Level 5 Death for Grand Dragon farming and for killing everything in the Desert Palace Level 4 Holy kills certain mobs in Outer Continent Level 3 Def Less works on some bosses, can do it while Zidane is stealing, works multiple times Aqua Breath does 25% of the enemy's max HP to all targets. Gets strong in the late game and also can help you work out the enemy HP without using Scan Mighty Guard does what would take Garnet 8 turns doing in 1 turn. Even more with Half HP ability. Boss Winning move Matra Magic can be used on yourself to set up for Limit Glove Bad Breath cripples some enemies into being powerless, even works on a lot of bosses Limit Glove is a dominant strategy in speed runs and other exploitative ways of playing the game 1000 Needles is a reliable attack in the Outer Continent Night will always work if the enemy is vulnerable to Sleep. Works on many bosses, only needs Insomniac on every party member which is not hard or much of a sacrifice Twister generally just wipes out trash mobs and does amazing damage to flying enemies (many enemies) Earth Shake is basically an alternative for Twister Angel's Snack is your insurance policy. Extremely good for Ozma and Necron Frop Drop is the best 9999 in the game. The animation is mercifully short as well (Thievery...) White Wind makes it viable to not have a White Mage in the party Vanish can be cast on an ally who is using Cover to make them block attacks and take no damage as well Magic Hammer can cripple some bosses while Zidane is stealing Auto-Life is great insurance and sets up for Limit Glove The more you understand Quina's moves the more powerful Quina becomes. The potential of the character is way beyond the rest of the cast.
Ark to me was more an eye candy/reward since when you get it you should be so strong no battle should become a real problem . Covering status ailments is pretty much underrated i guess .
Her Eidolon trance skill is also pretty good, just summon Bahamut or Ark (if you don't mind the long animation) and leave her on standby so her trance bar doesn't deplete and she can destroy bosses with the continuous summoning with no mp cost. Too bad that it's only for her trance and trances are pretty unreliable
She's also the best character to grind levels in the end game. Just have her summon odin against yans for easy exp. The success rate for odin goes up as she levels and gains spirit.
In my honest opinion I never found any ff9 characters to be useless at all they are all strong in their own unique way but some characters are stronger than others at certain points in the game It’s all about having the correct party members you don’t want all fighters or all mages you want a balance
Lol I obviously agreed he put Garnet at the bottom of the list and she can make the final boss easily broken because of how useful she is she can handle the boss by herself if you know what you're doing.
Yes like Vivi very powerful caster early in game but becomes less useful near disc 4. Garnet is practically useless early,but became much better later with her powerful summons
@@Rigter9029It's been years since since I played FFIX. But I kinda agree that Vivi was lower tier fighter near my end game. It became problem because I like him/her the most as character, but using Vivi made the game harder to me.
Vivi actually powerful if combined with Eiko. Eiko summon carbuncle (all party member have reflect spells) Vivi use level 3 magic such as Firaga, Thundaga, or Blizzaga to all party members and reflect the magic attack towards the enemy, it easily reach 9999 damages to most enemies.
This is a tough game to rank. The characters are well balanced. I will say that I personally like to focus on spirit and str bonus so that I can max HP and spirit. Based on that, steiner ranks much higher because his knight swords damage is based on str and spr.
You probably don't know how to use Garnet/Dagger right. Max out Garnet(gems), max out magic, spirit stat and try to get as much speed stat as possible(to hasten the regen intervals), equip Boost, auto-haste and auto-regen abilities(and auto-life if you're generous), fill up her trance guage to almost full, and enter the fight with Kuja or other endgame/side bosses. Summon Bahamut after trance, and drop that controller. She's easily better than Eiko during trance, while Eiko is better normally. And Steiner ranked that low? You probably have not abused Steiner's Charge! ability. It's literally what speedrunners utilise for a ton of extra damage with a single turn. And if everyone hits for max damage, you're looking at an extra 9999 to 39,996 dmg in a turn. In which, even Ozma and Quale wouldn't live through if everyone is in critical health, like just died and got revived with a phoenix down(including Steiner). Steiner use Charge! and the other 3 use Attack. Straight up 69,993 damage with very little set up.
Nah Garnet's trance is OP. She is primarily a damage character and healer second. At max level and high tide the casters trounce the warrior classes with an honorable mention to the Steiner charge tactic.
Not really, for a long section of the game she has a temporary mute effect for a while, which means she can't cast any Summons/spells for a while She can only use the normal Attack command, which she has a chance to fail focusing, which makes the command cancelled
@@apriljoiordono942 I am pretty sure she can, the mute effect is only a medium chance for any spell or summon, but still she can cast them. Not only for playing the game multiple times, but also from the coding inside of it.
@@apriljoiordono942 she can use it but sometimes it’ll say she can’t concentrate lol 😂 that’s why I bring her to the place where you can’t use magic because you can use it on the menu on the way to that place where you can’t use magic
Honestly impressed with this list. 90% of people out there seem to think Zidane Vivi Dagger Steiner is the best party hands down. Like nah fam, Freya Amarant and Quina are way better and don’t require a specific other party member to be present. They’re unconventional and less straight forward. But goddamn are they way more powerful
My final 4 were Zidane, Dagger, Vivi and Steiner which, according to this video, would be a terrible choice. However i managed very well with these 4. It's also nice to have to OGs all together
Zidane, Dagger, Vivi and Steiner are the quintessential FF party. Fighter, thief, white mage, black mage. And this video is ... off, to say the least. It's really more about his personal preference than an objective ranking. About the only thing I do agree with is that Quina is god-tier. In reality, all characters have the chance to shine if you use them properly. It just depends on how much time and effort you're willing to put into them.
Those are the ones I used the first time I beat the game. On my second run (where I got 100%), I ended up using Steiner, Vivi, Freya and Eiko. Eiko is god tier alone because of her Carbuncle, Full Life and Phoenix abilities. I got deleted by Ozma but Phoenix activated and saved my ass by reviving everyone so that I could first try it.
@@mr.battle20 Same, Quina is definitely the most OP and diverse but getting all blue magic and frogs? Zzz who has the time for that shit. Just kill a bunch of dragons with Freya and guaranteed 9999 damage. Vivi is amazing with a white mage in the party thanks to Reflect. Also Doomsday+party with Shadow resistance/absorption=easy game. Steiner has the highest HP so he can tank whenever everyone else dies, as well as do massive physical AND magical damage. And Eiko well I already mentioned above. EDIT: Oh and also with Holy attack up equipment, she can deal tons of damage by herself using Holy.
This is if you're power leveling late game but Steiner can do 9999 without going out of your way to grind crest or steal or catch frogs by the time you have access to Ozma. The set up I used to beat Ozma below lvl 50 without the stupid animal quest was Quina Steiner Eiko and Zidane because I can't take him out of the party for some reason. If you are grinding it's Zidane, Quina and Freya because they have access to consistent fixed damage and if you really want to heal you're better off running Vivi with Doomsday and dark absorb items, there should be enough for at least 4 members.
My team was always Zidane + Quina + Freya + Eiko once every team member was available. Never deviated from that setup once. Maybe I would have gone with Amarant over Freya if I didn't grind at the dragon so much that I ended up maxing out Freya's damage with her Dragon Crest, as both Amarant and Freya's support skills are very similar. Eiko is my preferred white mage due to having Holy and Full Life, and Carbuncle support (especially paired with specific jewels). Quina is OP even without maxing out their damage by catching frogs, and that's enough justification to add them to the team.
Good take quina is really underrated. I knew about amarant from the get go and just like every ff I've never cared for the throw ability but with amarant ion the beginning pinwheel is pretty useful
It can be very powerful, but is niche by the purpose of it. All characters in critical health. (Yellow marked HP) Immediately attack. In a party of high damage dealers, this is very powerful. But in most situations; you're playing a risky gambit for high damage output. You have to also count in long reach abilities for enemies who cannot be harmed by normal physical attacks.
Don’t forget carbuncle can cast way more than just reflect. If you hold the right accessory carbuncle can cast 5 other really useful support spells on whole party too.
I've been enjoying the bluntness in choosing the best in your opinion. Any chance of you doing one for Octopath Travler? Unless you've already done that one and I haven't found it.
2:49 Steiner's Sword Magic *DOES NOT* in fact use Vivi's MP. It uses Steiner's MP. In either case, Vivi is your best way to take advantage of elemental weakness, and you can even use Doomsday to heal the party provided they are equipped with Shadow-absorbing equipment. Maybe consider putting him up one tier at least, the only two problems he has are MP usage (which can be solved with either Amarant or ethers/elixirs), and reflect requiring setup (not that bad). Eiko should also DEFINITELY be higher due to the Marcus Stat Glitch, she's the only character who can max out her Strength or Magic stat this way. Not only that, but she has Haste, which is great until you can get your hands on Auto-Haste. I don't see how you can, in good conscience, put Zidane higher than either of them, they are equal at best, albeit for different reasons. Especially when his main gimmick, stealing from enemies to make Thievery stronger, is a chore in comparison to the reflect strategy. "Couldn't steal anything." "Couldn't steal anything." "Couldn't steal anything." That's playing Zidane in a nutshell for most of the game. His Dyne abilities are strong, and yes, Soul Blade and Thievery are amazing (especially Thievery), but he's more niche than both Vivi and Eiko.
I am very suspicious of your list. Catching 99 frogs takes a lot of work but it is very easy to make 99 Garnets to turn Dagger into a strong summoner. And she has Curaga! I think you were just trying hard to put Quina at number 1.
Basically this. If you dedicate to grinding Quina to learn all spells and get all frogs and learn the abilities, sure it's the most flexible and powerful party member. But if you don't? Eiko and Freya are better.
amarant has the potential to do up to 29,997 with his attack and both counters. likely even more if a gang of enemies only use physical and magical attacks only on him.
There's one big problem with this list. Every character in ff9 can be made good. They fill different roles in the party in such a way that you can clear the game with basically any combination of characters present at any given time. Honestly... the only other time Square had ever pulled that off before with all characters being unique in their rpg archetypes was back in Chrono Trigger (the best Final Fantasy game). I'll give FF9 the close second though, it's a damn good story.
Great video! Bonus Question if Beatrix was a permanent playable character wjere would she rank on this list? I'm using a GS to have ber in my party and she is one of my favorites!
I'm sorry, but Reflect + Black Magic with Vivi is a lot of work, but maxing out Zidane's Thievery, Freya's Dragon's Crest or Quina's Frog Drop for it to do 9999 damage is not?
The worst thing about this video is how you pronounce Zidane But apart from that I agree with a lot of your comments, but I would also mention that for the superboss Ozma, a team of Vivi and Amarant can be great if they both have return magic, getting triple Doomsday and therefore triple 9999 can help massively. I would also add Eiko for the Phoenix ability which can be a literal lifesaver in that battle And yes, Quina is god
PLEASE do one of these for Final Fantasy VIII! It's long been my favorite of the FF franchise and it gets so little love within the gaming zeitgeist, being forever overshadowed in the minds of many by its predecessor FFVII. I'd be overjoyed just to to hear someone like you talk about it...assuming you even liked that entry of course. And don't feel bad about your maybe maybe not feelings about Garnet. We gaming nerds all know the feeling. Rinoa from VIII may or may not have been an imaginary girlfriend of mine who I may or may not have wrote fanfiction about in high school.........
in short, who has the best limit break in ff8, cause they are pretty much the same person, except the limit break. just like FF7 and 10... and maybe 12 (original).
final fantasy IX for me is the best of them all! if u talk about fantasy and unique characters both protagonist and villains even the flow of the story romance adventure and battle sequence are all blend in balance, the game is very exciting thus memorable, up until now I still play the game! I love final fantasy IX
Lmao I loved Dagger she saved my ass with her long summon animations while the party was in regen trying to not get killed during bosses😂🤣 I would throw Freya in the sh*t tier personally
My party ended up being Zidane, Garnet, Freya and Quina. I honestly dont agree about Garnet being bad given that she was extremely useful with Bahamut and Ark. People say Arks not that great because of its long animation but I would argue that its because of its long animation that its so good. Even without max damage if your utilizing Regen (You either need to beat Ozma or beat Hades and use his shop to get Ark) The end game section becomes a breeze with Ark. If your party can Regen to near full health without interruption you dont need to really worry about reviving.
Just finished my first playthrough and Garnet was my MVP. My party had Auto-Regen and Garnet had also that ability that guarrantees full lenght summons so every time i summoned ark my whole party was practically fully healed
A lot of people think the team of Zidane, Garnet, Vivi, and Steiner is the best but I disagree. My team through many playthroughs is Zidane, Freya, Garnet (Eiko during the mute time), and Vivi. 😊 I know this is off a little bit but even if the guides for any FF Game recommends a party I don't go by it. XIII is a prime example as the guide recommends Lightning, Hope, and Fang. Nope! Lightning, Sazh, and Vanille the entire way. 😅
Ok maybe you can help me then because I've never been able to get anything strong out of him. He's always been a load on my party with almost no attack. How do I build a successful Amarant?
@@BJGvideos okay, first? You NEED to power up his abilities as soon as you get him, and chocograph like hell. Pause everything you are doing and focus on him. His Throw is OP as hell when he first arrives, and since it’s a ranged attack, he can do massive damage from the back row. That’ll do great, until you can get No Mercy from his claws. Back row, 1.5x dmg. This attack is particularly effective in enemies weak vs wind- equip the Kaiser Knuckle and black belt. Absolute wreckage, especially vs Ark in Oeilvert! He’s a beast vs Ozma, too. I easily one-on-one Ozma with that gear + return magic. Where Ammy truly shines, though, is not so much in DPS, but in UTILITY. Though he CAN wreck faces with damage if given the proper kit, Amarant is best at support. He can regen+auto-life the whole party in trance for 14mp. When Necron killed both my Quina and Eiko with that damn Southern Cross attack, he revived them both with 1/3hp in one turn. Amarant also inflicted a holy weakness on Necron with Curse, so Eiko ruined that boss hard, even with the Shell up. Ammy is literally the only character that can counter BOTH phys AND magic at once, and his mp healing with Power Up’d Chakra is far more powerful than using an ether, and if he’s tranced, that’s the whole party for a pittance! Having him equipped with High Tide is an absolute must. So, yeah! My husbando is definitely my best go-to character, and he’s really a killer support for both Quina and Eiko (my other two party members). Give him a shot! 💕
I don't have a favourite party for the story but for fighting Ozma I like using Zidain (Because you have to use him), Quina (Blue Magic for the win), Freia (Probably spelled that wrong but I use her for Regen and Dragons Crest) and Eiko (Best Healer in the game).
You did my girl Garnet wrong lol, endgame, get a couple garnets, maximize magic + spirit and summon Bahamut during her limit break. She'll be dealing 5000 damage nonstop without spending MP or a turn!
Trying to get all the steals with zedane while vivi keeps stacking focus, then like 1 or 2 shoting the boss after getting all the steals is pretty great.
Zidane Dagger Steiner Vivi This is my team. Which they were rated basically at the bottom 😅😅 I don’t use them because they’re good to be honest. I just like these characters.
Vivi is late game low tier I agree, but as soon as you can steal the ice staff and magus hat from Gizamaluke, he'll be your main source of damage for the rest of disc 1 and all of disc 2 (barring limit glove shenanigans)
Half of my team has reflect and absorbs dark-element. The other half absorbs water and neutralize darkness. Vivi casts either water on team, attacks with reflect while healing half of my team, or he casts dark tribunal and heals the other half team and attacks. I have Eiko for holy, phönix and revive magic, freya (or zidane, but in the realm of memories, he isn't as useful. freya also heals mp and does cheap 9999 dmg) and quina. - What I like about this is, that everyone is a tank, healer and dps at the same time.
Oh my... I've been sleeping on Amarant just because he doesn't have a fixed damage attack like Quina/Zidane/Freya. I'll definitely include him in my next playthrough!
Correction on Dagger! She can Do Crazy Damage so Long as Garnet Is stocked with ITEMS LIKE Garnet & Peridot! The Game has a Hidden Mechanic that focus around Having Multiples of Certain Items! Stuff like Dead Peppers, And Dark Matter need up to 99 of itself to cause damage or Add to Damage! It’s also the Same case for Eiko and her Phoenix! There’s also Different Items that Can change Carbuncle and even Fenrir’s attacks!
Am at the end of my first playthrough, just beating the first Kuja fight and seizing the Invincible. My go-to team is Zidane, Steiner, Vivi, and Eiko as they all can hit *very* hard and their utility spells can be clutch sometimes. I'm just learning the remainder of Steiner's attacks / abilities before finishing the game, *maybe* fighting Ozma after doing all friendly monsters, and I'll probably do a 100% run afterwards!
Dagger is far from bottom tier! You just need a good set up, like any character late game. Her long summon animations are perfect for auto-regen to basically completely heal your entire party and cause damage to boot (especially Ark). And all her other summons cause more damage based on the number of their stones you have in your inventory, so even her cheaper summons can still do good damage.
In that section when she's mute, she actually can still use magic, it's just that there's a chance she'll "lose focus" and not do anything for her turn.
I feel like everyone is good in their own way. My optimal team is actually Zidane, Dagger, Freya and Quina (I'm gonna use this team against Ozma). With the use of support abilities and some items, you're actually gonna be fine with everyone.
Loved final fantasy 9 so much, I believe actually lived in that world long ago. Played this game at least 20 times until mid 2000s. My most favorite character is definitely Vivi, but since disc 3 he's not very useful anymore. The strongest party for me consist of Zidane ... Steal, thievery, strong trance, good speed and strength Freya.. Jump, excellent defense early on, dragon's crest Quina... Versatile mage,frog drop, magic hammer, mighty guard, millionaire ability Amarant... Chakra, good strength and magic, throw skill, very good trance
I try to stick with the classic party as much as possible, Zidane, Steiner, Garnet, and Vivi, just like the Thief, Fighter, White Mage, and Black Mage in 8-Bit Theater. It can be a real struggle sometimes.
I really liked Salamander (Amarant? In English version) a lot because of his diverse abilities that focused not just damage but some heal and buff and some other things I wish we didn't get him so late in the game TT
My first game play my final team was: 1. Quina - frog drop 2. Freya - dragon crest 3. Dagger - healer 4. Eiko - madeen and holy and backup healer incase Dagger died. Also Phoenix is a life saver
actually Quina's ability needs much more than 100 frogs. The calculation of the attack is: the number of frogs multiplied by Quina's level, even being level 99 (the limit) does not reach 9999, and honestly I think you can spend the game with a level around 50, so you would need about than 200 frogs for the attack to make 9999. Quina is indeed the best, considering his ability as an attacker, support and healer.
Zidane, eiko, vivi, steiner. Late game strategy was. All party member absorb shadow damage. Doomsday 9999. Damage all enemys and heal party entirely. Everytime. And then doomsday sword with steiner. Cheaper to use than his own skills like climhazzard. Eiko holy and healing if there is need of that. I newer stole that much with zidane so i mention only trance anttacks with him and supporting. But i just started this game again so il try your combination. You should try this my strategy also if you havent yet. Low tier char but works enought. Against ozma quina is vital. I agree with that mighty guardian without that its very hard match. My opinion,
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Ah yes dagger. The more summon focused character who literally can't summon for like 1/3 of the game.
I just played through this game the other day and the fact her and Steiner are gone for so much of the game blew my mind
Other than 10 and 8 it takes about 1/3 of most final fantasy games.
Correction here, if you can level her enough to have the mp, she can use her summons.
She can’t summon until Pinnacle Rocks and then is silenced for a big chunk of her availability, plus the fact that she has to learn them over time- I’d say she can’t summon for at least 1/2 of the game if not more.
@@zanesproductions3937 she can summon before hand, you just have to grind up the levels to have the MP available.
You DARE disrespect Dagger??!!! I'm telling Steiner!!! The Knights Of Pluto will have your head, peasant!!!!!
Tad Hunter I’m sorrrrrrrrrryyyyyy
tell Steiner? tell Beatrix that she will end this scoundrel who is defaming the queen
ok relax
@@alexandrert948 nah Beatrix will just reduce their hp to 1 and make a biting remark like she always does
Quina really is the god character, can literally do everything:
Attack damage is respectable with good Add Status options
Cook insta-kills enemies below 50% hp which just gets better as the game goes on
The Millionaire ability is absolutely incredible, you definitely can struggle with Gil in this game because of how expensive buying/synthing a lot of items can be. You also can have this as soon as you get Quina.
More HP than the other casters
Level 5 Death for Grand Dragon farming and for killing everything in the Desert Palace
Level 4 Holy kills certain mobs in Outer Continent
Level 3 Def Less works on some bosses, can do it while Zidane is stealing, works multiple times
Aqua Breath does 25% of the enemy's max HP to all targets. Gets strong in the late game and also can help you work out the enemy HP without using Scan
Mighty Guard does what would take Garnet 8 turns doing in 1 turn. Even more with Half HP ability. Boss Winning move
Matra Magic can be used on yourself to set up for Limit Glove
Bad Breath cripples some enemies into being powerless, even works on a lot of bosses
Limit Glove is a dominant strategy in speed runs and other exploitative ways of playing the game
1000 Needles is a reliable attack in the Outer Continent
Night will always work if the enemy is vulnerable to Sleep. Works on many bosses, only needs Insomniac on every party member which is not hard or much of a sacrifice
Twister generally just wipes out trash mobs and does amazing damage to flying enemies (many enemies)
Earth Shake is basically an alternative for Twister
Angel's Snack is your insurance policy. Extremely good for Ozma and Necron
Frop Drop is the best 9999 in the game. The animation is mercifully short as well (Thievery...)
White Wind makes it viable to not have a White Mage in the party
Vanish can be cast on an ally who is using Cover to make them block attacks and take no damage as well
Magic Hammer can cripple some bosses while Zidane is stealing
Auto-Life is great insurance and sets up for Limit Glove
The more you understand Quina's moves the more powerful Quina becomes. The potential of the character is way beyond the rest of the cast.
Couldn't have said it better.
Plus, in the Italian version she speaks (because it's a she for italians) with Rome's accent and she's soooo funny
Sooooooo agree
LV4 Holy pretty much guarantees a win
You have to grind Quina tho, that shit's boring
Been going through your video catalogue and really enjoying it. The TH-cam algorithm is really doing you wrong man.
Well I'm not Nikki Manaj so of course it doesn't haha. One step at a time here at LOCLOUDANE.
Correction. Steiner’s MP is what gets used for Magic Sword
Dagger has one redeeming quality:
Auto-regen + Ark = damage enemy and heal party. That’s a lifesaver in some end-game battles.
Ark to me was more an eye candy/reward since when you get it you should be so strong no battle should become a real problem . Covering status ailments is pretty much underrated i guess .
Her Eidolon trance skill is also pretty good, just summon Bahamut or Ark (if you don't mind the long animation) and leave her on standby so her trance bar doesn't deplete and she can destroy bosses with the continuous summoning with no mp cost. Too bad that it's only for her trance and trances are pretty unreliable
She's also the best character to grind levels in the end game. Just have her summon odin against yans for easy exp. The success rate for odin goes up as she levels and gains spirit.
@@ooberpuch I hear yans are Guarded against Odin's Attack.
@@Seth-ng5oy Odins attack does work. Success is based on Daggers spirit stat, level and if you're using the summon booster ability iirc.
In my honest opinion I never found any ff9 characters to be useless at all they are all strong in their own unique way but some characters are stronger than others at certain points in the game
It’s all about having the correct party members you don’t want all fighters or all mages you want a balance
Lol I obviously agreed he put Garnet at the bottom of the list and she can make the final boss easily broken because of how useful she is she can handle the boss by herself if you know what you're doing.
Yes like Vivi very powerful caster early in game but becomes less useful near disc 4. Garnet is practically useless early,but became much better later with her powerful summons
@@taroupriapus9760 talk for yourself, cause by the endgame Vivi can be both a heavy hitter and healer in the same command
@@Rigter9029It's been years since since I played FFIX. But I kinda agree that Vivi was lower tier fighter near my end game. It became problem because I like him/her the most as character, but using Vivi made the game harder to me.
@@TeguhNugrahaPratamaReflect x2 skill + auto reflect = 9,999 damage every spell late game.
"Never again will we see charm like this." In a _single player_ Final Fantasy, yes, I agree.
Vivi actually powerful if combined with Eiko.
Eiko summon carbuncle (all party member have reflect spells)
Vivi use level 3 magic such as Firaga, Thundaga, or Blizzaga to all party members and reflect the magic attack towards the enemy, it easily reach 9999 damages to most enemies.
This is a tough game to rank. The characters are well balanced. I will say that I personally like to focus on spirit and str bonus so that I can max HP and spirit. Based on that, steiner ranks much higher because his knight swords damage is based on str and spr.
Quina for the win!!! My favorite character ever in this game.
You probably don't know how to use Garnet/Dagger right. Max out Garnet(gems), max out magic, spirit stat and try to get as much speed stat as possible(to hasten the regen intervals), equip Boost, auto-haste and auto-regen abilities(and auto-life if you're generous), fill up her trance guage to almost full, and enter the fight with Kuja or other endgame/side bosses. Summon Bahamut after trance, and drop that controller. She's easily better than Eiko during trance, while Eiko is better normally.
And Steiner ranked that low? You probably have not abused Steiner's Charge! ability. It's literally what speedrunners utilise for a ton of extra damage with a single turn. And if everyone hits for max damage, you're looking at an extra 9999 to 39,996 dmg in a turn. In which, even Ozma and Quale wouldn't live through if everyone is in critical health, like just died and got revived with a phoenix down(including Steiner). Steiner use Charge! and the other 3 use Attack. Straight up 69,993 damage with very little set up.
Eiko is still the better option
Nah Garnet's trance is OP. She is primarily a damage character and healer second. At max level and high tide the casters trounce the warrior classes with an honorable mention to the Steiner charge tactic.
I am sure garnet can use her magics on depression, there is only a medium low rate that it will fail due to her status.
Not really, for a long section of the game she has a temporary mute effect for a while, which means she can't cast any Summons/spells for a while
She can only use the normal Attack command, which she has a chance to fail focusing, which makes the command cancelled
@@apriljoiordono942 I am pretty sure she can, the mute effect is only a medium chance for any spell or summon, but still she can cast them. Not only for playing the game multiple times, but also from the coding inside of it.
@@apriljoiordono942 she can use it but sometimes it’ll say she can’t concentrate lol 😂 that’s why I bring her to the place where you can’t use magic because you can use it on the menu on the way to that place where you can’t use magic
I think the mute gives her a chance not to do ANY command. It would make sense for it to be like a permanent silence status though
These answers are correct. Any command has a chance for fail during her mute period. The only sequence she cannot cast anything is in oeilvert
Honestly impressed with this list. 90% of people out there seem to think Zidane Vivi Dagger Steiner is the best party hands down. Like nah fam, Freya Amarant and Quina are way better and don’t require a specific other party member to be present. They’re unconventional and less straight forward. But goddamn are they way more powerful
So what about steiners charge ability which is the most broken thing in the entire game ?
I always wanna hear him saying
"THE SH*T TIER""
My final 4 were Zidane, Dagger, Vivi and Steiner which, according to this video, would be a terrible choice. However i managed very well with these 4. It's also nice to have to OGs all together
Zidane, Dagger, Vivi and Steiner are the quintessential FF party. Fighter, thief, white mage, black mage.
And this video is ... off, to say the least. It's really more about his personal preference than an objective ranking. About the only thing I do agree with is that Quina is god-tier.
In reality, all characters have the chance to shine if you use them properly. It just depends on how much time and effort you're willing to put into them.
Those are the ones I used the first time I beat the game. On my second run (where I got 100%), I ended up using Steiner, Vivi, Freya and Eiko. Eiko is god tier alone because of her Carbuncle, Full Life and Phoenix abilities. I got deleted by Ozma but Phoenix activated and saved my ass by reviving everyone so that I could first try it.
@@mr.battle20 Same, Quina is definitely the most OP and diverse but getting all blue magic and frogs? Zzz who has the time for that shit. Just kill a bunch of dragons with Freya and guaranteed 9999 damage. Vivi is amazing with a white mage in the party thanks to Reflect. Also Doomsday+party with Shadow resistance/absorption=easy game. Steiner has the highest HP so he can tank whenever everyone else dies, as well as do massive physical AND magical damage. And Eiko well I already mentioned above.
EDIT: Oh and also with Holy attack up equipment, she can deal tons of damage by herself using Holy.
This is if you're power leveling late game but Steiner can do 9999 without going out of your way to grind crest or steal or catch frogs by the time you have access to Ozma. The set up I used to beat Ozma below lvl 50 without the stupid animal quest was Quina Steiner Eiko and Zidane because I can't take him out of the party for some reason. If you are grinding it's Zidane, Quina and Freya because they have access to consistent fixed damage and if you really want to heal you're better off running Vivi with Doomsday and dark absorb items, there should be enough for at least 4 members.
This is the most accurate comment
My team was always Zidane + Quina + Freya + Eiko once every team member was available. Never deviated from that setup once. Maybe I would have gone with Amarant over Freya if I didn't grind at the dragon so much that I ended up maxing out Freya's damage with her Dragon Crest, as both Amarant and Freya's support skills are very similar. Eiko is my preferred white mage due to having Holy and Full Life, and Carbuncle support (especially paired with specific jewels). Quina is OP even without maxing out their damage by catching frogs, and that's enough justification to add them to the team.
Almost same..
Mine are zidane, quina, Freya and Amarant. Loved amarant chakra and aura spells, no need white mage as quinas white wind can do that
Steiner has the amazing ability charge. One of very few ways of dealing more than 9999 damage in a single turn.
This list seems to be more about "Why i love blue mages" than anything else
Good take quina is really underrated. I knew about amarant from the get go and just like every ff I've never cared for the throw ability but with amarant ion the beginning pinwheel is pretty useful
Eiko is definitely high tier :0 her white magic and support summons + holy make her a great option
Eiko is the best character imo, especially if you can't bother to grind Quina to max potential
What about Steiner's "Charge" ability? It's stupid OP.
It can be very powerful, but is niche by the purpose of it.
All characters in critical health. (Yellow marked HP) Immediately attack. In a party of high damage dealers, this is very powerful. But in most situations; you're playing a risky gambit for high damage output. You have to also count in long reach abilities for enemies who cannot be harmed by normal physical attacks.
Best characters: ALL
Best warrior: Amarant
Favs characters: Vivi, Zidane, Freya, Kuja
Amarant is easily the easiest to ignore lol
@@Walamonga1313 Only for those who have bad taste
@@Walamonga1313 amarant is a 7 foot juggernaut
Don’t forget carbuncle can cast way more than just reflect. If you hold the right accessory carbuncle can cast 5 other really useful support spells on whole party too.
Oh yeah ? Never tried
I've been enjoying the bluntness in choosing the best in your opinion. Any chance of you doing one for Octopath Travler? Unless you've already done that one and I haven't found it.
Just subbed you man but Vivi low tier?!?!?! Him with Half Mp >>>>>
Thanks for the sub! Not my opinion I promise! When at end game he just fell short. Still a great party member though.
@@locloudanerpg Doomsday deletes everything tho
I know I'm late but Steiner Charge! is 40k damage from 1 move, that's god tier!
Thanks a lot. This might help get me back into serious gaming again, which I have sadly been out of for about a year.
2:49 Steiner's Sword Magic *DOES NOT* in fact use Vivi's MP. It uses Steiner's MP. In either case, Vivi is your best way to take advantage of elemental weakness, and you can even use Doomsday to heal the party provided they are equipped with Shadow-absorbing equipment. Maybe consider putting him up one tier at least, the only two problems he has are MP usage (which can be solved with either Amarant or ethers/elixirs), and reflect requiring setup (not that bad). Eiko should also DEFINITELY be higher due to the Marcus Stat Glitch, she's the only character who can max out her Strength or Magic stat this way. Not only that, but she has Haste, which is great until you can get your hands on Auto-Haste. I don't see how you can, in good conscience, put Zidane higher than either of them, they are equal at best, albeit for different reasons. Especially when his main gimmick, stealing from enemies to make Thievery stronger, is a chore in comparison to the reflect strategy.
"Couldn't steal anything."
"Couldn't steal anything."
"Couldn't steal anything."
That's playing Zidane in a nutshell for most of the game. His Dyne abilities are strong, and yes, Soul Blade and Thievery are amazing (especially Thievery), but he's more niche than both Vivi and Eiko.
I am very suspicious of your list. Catching 99 frogs takes a lot of work but it is very easy to make 99 Garnets to turn Dagger into a strong summoner. And she has Curaga! I think you were just trying hard to put Quina at number 1.
good video, i love you.
my childhood game
quina requires more work to do the same thing the other 3 do way easier, and most those abilities are fluff that aren't that useful :/
Basically this. If you dedicate to grinding Quina to learn all spells and get all frogs and learn the abilities, sure it's the most flexible and powerful party member. But if you don't? Eiko and Freya are better.
I'm starting back FF9 today so will be following this guide to be god tier :D
Hahaha, my brother gets a mid tier and my favorite character gets a top tier
See Zidane, Amarant is totally superior to you.
It was my first FF and I love it so much till this day.
Vivi and Eiko should be higher simply due to them being able to do 19998 damage in one round while in trance.
But it is not at all monsters.
Buy trance can be wasted
amarant has the potential to do up to 29,997 with his attack and both counters. likely even more if a gang of enemies only use physical and magical attacks only on him.
There's one big problem with this list. Every character in ff9 can be made good. They fill different roles in the party in such a way that you can clear the game with basically any combination of characters present at any given time. Honestly... the only other time Square had ever pulled that off before with all characters being unique in their rpg archetypes was back in Chrono Trigger (the best Final Fantasy game). I'll give FF9 the close second though, it's a damn good story.
I think 6 can also be considered. There are obviously better/worse characters but any combination can work. The story is pretty good too
Nice to see a
Amarant get some love
Great video! Bonus Question if Beatrix was a permanent playable character wjere would she rank on this list? I'm using a GS to have ber in my party and she is one of my favorites!
Probably above Steiner for early game damage.
I'm sorry, but Reflect + Black Magic with Vivi is a lot of work, but maxing out Zidane's Thievery, Freya's Dragon's Crest or Quina's Frog Drop for it to do 9999 damage is not?
The 9999 limit in FF9 is very stifling.
The worst thing about this video is how you pronounce Zidane
But apart from that I agree with a lot of your comments, but I would also mention that for the superboss Ozma, a team of Vivi and Amarant can be great if they both have return magic, getting triple Doomsday and therefore triple 9999 can help massively. I would also add Eiko for the Phoenix ability which can be a literal lifesaver in that battle
And yes, Quina is god
PLEASE do one of these for Final Fantasy VIII! It's long been my favorite of the FF franchise and it gets so little love within the gaming zeitgeist, being forever overshadowed in the minds of many by its predecessor FFVII. I'd be overjoyed just to to hear someone like you talk about it...assuming you even liked that entry of course.
And don't feel bad about your maybe maybe not feelings about Garnet. We gaming nerds all know the feeling. Rinoa from VIII may or may not have been an imaginary girlfriend of mine who I may or may not have wrote fanfiction about in high school.........
Haha it's in the works my freind. I plan on doing all the Final Fantasy games. Thanks for the support!
in short, who has the best limit break in ff8, cause they are pretty much the same person, except the limit break. just like FF7 and 10... and maybe 12 (original).
Hah I’ve been rockin zidane, freya, amarant and quina. I just got the airship, been grinding in tetra master. Great video, thanks.
Steiner, auto regen and darksied great combo
liking your content man, just found you there at random. subbed after a few minutes, easy decision ;) (best ff btw)
I love you. Welcome to the family!
final fantasy IX for me is the best of them all! if u talk about fantasy and unique characters both protagonist and villains even the flow of the story romance adventure and battle sequence are all blend in balance, the game is very exciting thus memorable, up until now I still play the game! I love final fantasy IX
I love quina! Always name him/her Chef!!!
I named it Molly in my first game in 2001🤣 thought its a fat woman 🤣 may
Lmao I loved Dagger she saved my ass with her long summon animations while the party was in regen trying to not get killed during bosses😂🤣 I would throw Freya in the sh*t tier personally
Vivi is literally the best. Always in my party and strongest. I mean flare and reflect x2
The sheer amount of EMOTIONAL DAMAGE this video does to me having vivi…. The best ff character of all time so low hurts….
My party ended up being Zidane, Garnet, Freya and Quina. I honestly dont agree about Garnet being bad given that she was extremely useful with Bahamut and Ark. People say Arks not that great because of its long animation but I would argue that its because of its long animation that its so good. Even without max damage if your utilizing Regen (You either need to beat Ozma or beat Hades and use his shop to get Ark) The end game section becomes a breeze with Ark. If your party can Regen to near full health without interruption you dont need to really worry about reviving.
Just finished my first playthrough and Garnet was my MVP. My party had Auto-Regen and Garnet had also that ability that guarrantees full lenght summons so every time i summoned ark my whole party was practically fully healed
Actually, if you focus enough times, Vivi can deal 9999 damage even with lower power magic, and focus buff is permanent for the battle
A lot of people think the team of Zidane, Garnet, Vivi, and Steiner is the best but I disagree. My team through many playthroughs is Zidane, Freya, Garnet (Eiko during the mute time), and Vivi. 😊
I know this is off a little bit but even if the guides for any FF Game recommends a party I don't go by it. XIII is a prime example as the guide recommends Lightning, Hope, and Fang. Nope! Lightning, Sazh, and Vanille the entire way. 😅
Amarant is my absolute go-to, and my uttermost love. Thank you for educating the filthy masses who hate him FOR NOTHING about how amazing he is. 💕
Ok maybe you can help me then because I've never been able to get anything strong out of him. He's always been a load on my party with almost no attack. How do I build a successful Amarant?
@@BJGvideos okay, first? You NEED to power up his abilities as soon as you get him, and chocograph like hell. Pause everything you are doing and focus on him. His Throw is OP as hell when he first arrives, and since it’s a ranged attack, he can do massive damage from the back row. That’ll do great, until you can get No Mercy from his claws. Back row, 1.5x dmg. This attack is particularly effective in enemies weak vs wind- equip the Kaiser Knuckle and black belt. Absolute wreckage, especially vs Ark in Oeilvert! He’s a beast vs Ozma, too. I easily one-on-one Ozma with that gear + return magic.
Where Ammy truly shines, though, is not so much in DPS, but in UTILITY. Though he CAN wreck faces with damage if given the proper kit, Amarant is best at support. He can regen+auto-life the whole party in trance for 14mp. When Necron killed both my Quina and Eiko with that damn Southern Cross attack, he revived them both with 1/3hp in one turn. Amarant also inflicted a holy weakness on Necron with Curse, so Eiko ruined that boss hard, even with the Shell up. Ammy is literally the only character that can counter BOTH phys AND magic at once, and his mp healing with Power Up’d Chakra is far more powerful than using an ether, and if he’s tranced, that’s the whole party for a pittance! Having him equipped with High Tide is an absolute must.
So, yeah! My husbando is definitely my best go-to character, and he’s really a killer support for both Quina and Eiko (my other two party members). Give him a shot! 💕
@@EarthenCavy I see. I'll have to try that. Thank you.
I don't have a favourite party for the story but for fighting Ozma I like using Zidain (Because you have to use him), Quina (Blue Magic for the win), Freia (Probably spelled that wrong but I use her for Regen and Dragons Crest) and Eiko (Best Healer in the game).
You did my girl Garnet wrong lol, endgame, get a couple garnets, maximize magic + spirit and summon Bahamut during her limit break. She'll be dealing 5000 damage nonstop without spending MP or a turn!
Get 99 garnets by synthesising and Bahamut will deal 9999
Honestly it made happy that Freya was high tier considering she’s my favorite character!
Trying to get all the steals with zedane while vivi keeps stacking focus, then like 1 or 2 shoting the boss after getting all the steals is pretty great.
Zidane
Dagger
Steiner
Vivi
This is my team. Which they were rated basically at the bottom 😅😅 I don’t use them because they’re good to be honest. I just like these characters.
Freya Quina Eiko Zidane That’s my party. Pretty high on the list (no offense!)
@@-FLETCH- well at least we have Zidane in common. 😅 I’m playing through the game again and I’m actually using that team. They’re really fun to use!
@@davidcollins7950 yeah! Thay are pretty fun to use!
Zidane, Garnet, Amarant, Quina
I don’t recall dagger being so bad, but I played this game like 20 years ago too so...
Beatrix is obviously the God tier character (okay I may be biased because i had a crush on her back then xD).
Vivi is late game low tier I agree, but as soon as you can steal the ice staff and magus hat from Gizamaluke, he'll be your main source of damage for the rest of disc 1 and all of disc 2 (barring limit glove shenanigans)
Half of my team has reflect and absorbs dark-element. The other half absorbs water and neutralize darkness. Vivi casts either water on team, attacks with reflect while healing half of my team, or he casts dark tribunal and heals the other half team and attacks. I have Eiko for holy, phönix and revive magic, freya (or zidane, but in the realm of memories, he isn't as useful. freya also heals mp and does cheap 9999 dmg) and quina. - What I like about this is, that everyone is a tank, healer and dps at the same time.
Oh my... I've been sleeping on Amarant just because he doesn't have a fixed damage attack like Quina/Zidane/Freya. I'll definitely include him in my next playthrough!
Correction on Dagger! She can Do Crazy Damage so Long as Garnet Is stocked with ITEMS LIKE Garnet & Peridot!
The Game has a Hidden Mechanic that focus around Having Multiples of Certain Items!
Stuff like Dead Peppers, And Dark Matter need up to 99 of itself to cause damage or Add to Damage!
It’s also the Same case for Eiko and her Phoenix! There’s also Different Items that Can change Carbuncle and even Fenrir’s attacks!
Am at the end of my first playthrough, just beating the first Kuja fight and seizing the Invincible. My go-to team is Zidane, Steiner, Vivi, and Eiko as they all can hit *very* hard and their utility spells can be clutch sometimes. I'm just learning the remainder of Steiner's attacks / abilities before finishing the game, *maybe* fighting Ozma after doing all friendly monsters, and I'll probably do a 100% run afterwards!
You forgot to add Beatrix to the god tier.
Dagger is far from bottom tier! You just need a good set up, like any character late game. Her long summon animations are perfect for auto-regen to basically completely heal your entire party and cause damage to boot (especially Ark). And all her other summons cause more damage based on the number of their stones you have in your inventory, so even her cheaper summons can still do good damage.
Low tier Vivi? You need to specify why best boy is low tier. I am literally shaking.
Forgive me for I have sinned.
In that section when she's mute, she actually can still use magic, it's just that there's a chance she'll "lose focus" and not do anything for her turn.
I feel like everyone is good in their own way. My optimal team is actually Zidane, Dagger, Freya and Quina (I'm gonna use this team against Ozma). With the use of support abilities and some items, you're actually gonna be fine with everyone.
Yes my G Quina, finally someone realising your worth
Loved final fantasy 9 so much, I believe actually lived in that world long ago. Played this game at least 20 times until mid 2000s. My most favorite character is definitely Vivi, but since disc 3 he's not very useful anymore.
The strongest party for me consist of
Zidane ... Steal, thievery, strong trance, good speed and strength
Freya.. Jump, excellent defense early on, dragon's crest
Quina... Versatile mage,frog drop, magic hammer, mighty guard, millionaire ability
Amarant... Chakra, good strength and magic, throw skill, very good trance
My favourite game ever
Doesn't Quina's Blue Magic do random damage?
I always found it unreliable.
Some do fixed damage
Some are healing magic
Magick hammer devastates enemies
All blue magic cannot be reflected
Wait, Dagger can use her magic while mute or am I insane?
I try to stick with the classic party as much as possible, Zidane, Steiner, Garnet, and Vivi, just like the Thief, Fighter, White Mage, and Black Mage in 8-Bit Theater. It can be a real struggle sometimes.
I didn't expect that xD
I really liked Salamander (Amarant? In English version) a lot because of his diverse abilities that focused not just damage but some heal and buff and some other things I wish we didn't get him so late in the game TT
I just used Zidane Steiner Vivi and garnet... Because they are the first you get ha
My favorite final fantasy game ❤
The disrespect to the bestest boy would be unforgivable, however you do pay respects to the best poptart.
I usually use zidane, steiner, vivi, and quinoa just because they are my favorite charachters
Garnet has an easy 9999 damage, Atmos, getting all of the Amethysts for max damage is easy too
FFIX's Garnet+Zidane+Vivi+Steiner = Skyrim's Sneaky Archer
Is it bad that I use the low tier & sh*t tier characters a lot?
Dude with viví you can cast doomsday and absorb dark you’ll heal the whole party and deal damage.
Too long animation. Vivi is very useful up to disc 2 but pales out later in game
1:59 summon animation in this game is a hack HP as the auto regen still work during this
I really hope the remake/remaster makes Beatrix a permanent party member
Quina and Freya has abilities the works past all defences and can kill even super bosses in a couple of rotations
freya, amarant, quina, and zidane are almost always my final party
My first game play my final team was:
1. Quina - frog drop
2. Freya - dragon crest
3. Dagger - healer
4. Eiko - madeen and holy and backup healer incase Dagger died. Also Phoenix is a life saver
actually Quina's ability needs much more than 100 frogs. The calculation of the attack is: the number of frogs multiplied by Quina's level, even being level 99 (the limit) does not reach 9999, and honestly I think you can spend the game with a level around 50, so you would need about than 200 frogs for the attack to make 9999. Quina is indeed the best, considering his ability as an attacker, support and healer.
Yes, I was level 99 with Quina and I remember I added my frog catch up to 105 or 106 to get 9999 damage
Vivi is my healer, I give everyone absorb darkness and spam doomsday 👉🏻👈🏻
I played ff9 a lot. I agree with the top 4 quina zidane amarant and Freya
Zidane, eiko, vivi, steiner. Late game strategy was. All party member absorb shadow damage. Doomsday 9999. Damage all enemys and heal party entirely. Everytime. And then doomsday sword with steiner. Cheaper to use than his own skills like climhazzard. Eiko holy and healing if there is need of that. I newer stole that much with zidane so i mention only trance anttacks with him and supporting. But i just started this game again so il try your combination. You should try this my strategy also if you havent yet. Low tier char but works enought. Against ozma quina is vital. I agree with that mighty guardian without that its very hard match. My opinion,