I know everyone has already said this but Lee you have put out one of the best comparisons between a home built and a ready to go like this new one is. I learned a lot that I didn't know about it and I'm not sure whether it be something for me to begin with but I do appreciate all the effort and info you put into this
Hey thanks Matt, I did put lots of work into this video and it is not perfect but I hoped to help people make the right decision when it comes to making a purchase. It is a great and fun quad but it will NOT be replacing my current setup for pro work at the moment.
Best Avata / cinewhoop comparison thus far!! Very professional to the point great presentation Lee! I smashed that like button and congrats on your new purchase 👍🤟🔥🔥🔥
You can do the same thing with a homebuilt using a $10 lidar sensor. You'll have the same issues you would with the Avata in that if you fly over a couch or table, the drone will want to climb. There might be a way to deal with that in Betaflight on the homebuilt.
LOL, I figured that had to be one in there somewhere, lots of typing and editing into the night to try and get this review out in a timely manner. Too late now... LOL
Hey dude… Great video. What is the smallest sized whoop style drone that you would feel comfortable putting a full sized GoPro on? 3”… 2.5”…? Thanks. I’m a 5” pilot who wants to do real estate tour type stuff.
3.5 for sure... I am truly sorry for the delay in response. I had a case of TH-cam Burnout. Times have changed for me in recent months and I am slowly starting to get back to flying and my channel. Had a family tragedy, an Occupation change, and my Daughter starting to drive. Kids' school activities and more. I prioritized family first and getting my mental state in order before I could resume my channel operations. Life is trending in a more positive direction and wanted to follow up where I left off.
@@AdventureFPV - Well thanks for the response. I hope things settle down for you. 😏🤓 I ended up just getting a GepRC Cinebot 30. I just flew it with my Session 5 attached and it handled that no problem. Now I just have to practice flying slow and smooth. I’m usually a 5” ripper. 😜🤘🏼
Well Lee this was really good information for me. I would like to add a cinewhoop to my collection and I am trying to decide whether to buy the Avata or to buy a custom built. This video has gone a long way helping me make that decision. Another great video.
Glad it was helpful! I think the Avata is a lot of fun and if you have the money to spend on an extra drone... do it. But if you want the real deal build or buy something else. Just my opinion based on my experiences. Thanks for watching Scott.
I JUST got my Avata today - looking forward to trying it for real estate tours. I have the cinelog 25 but I have not quite gotten good enough with it to fly it indoors - do you have a video showing your betaflight tuning or settings for the Cinelog 25 for slow, smooth flight? Not a lot of great info out there on it. thanks for the great video!
Hey David Congrats on the purchase. You will like it for sure. I do not have a video about the 25 yet, But the video idea is currently on my whiteboard and I plan to make a video on general fly through settins and things to adjust on any cinewhoop. Stay tuned coming soonish!!! Cheers
@@AdventureFPV sweet - looking forward to it - took my Cinelog 25 out today and I still feel like I am flying drunk - a great video on settings / betaflight would be just the ticket! Great channel!
I have the Cnelog 25 and I use lo rates with expo and the game changer was the throtle expo where I usually hover the most. Is hard in acro mode but therr are no rules for that and we can use angle sometimes😎
7:08 You're supposed to loosen the screw. But please do not remove it. You loosen it to the point just before it becomes unthreaded. You do not want to take the screws all the way out
great comparison Lee know for me learning fpv my biggest headach ever so much to learn on top of that different stick control over gps drones well said buddy
This was a great in-depth video! Question: does this drone also take stills photos? I don’t see anyone talking about that. I’m a real estate photographer so I’d love to know that I could use it for traditional drone stills as well. Thoughts??
Man, I had my first commercial shoot yesterday with the Avata, from a professional perspective super easy to control the ND / ISO. Since your goggle feed is close to your shot footage. Okay with the action cam you get to know the situations, but especially when a golden hour or near sundown, it's iffy using ND's, I had zero issues with it yesterday.
@@AdventureFPV ( was not my first Gig :p but for Avata it was :P ). Yeah, they are fine, as long you don't put the goggles on your forehead. Since there is no extra fan that sweat will turn into fog I think.
Great vid! I was interested in what rates you fly on your cinelog 25? Trying to tweak mine in cant get it as good as my 35. I went for thr avata aswell but I'm pretty mixed on how I feel about it, best thing so far is its the 1st time my family have been able to safely don the goggles and get a taste of what I love in real time
@@AdventureFPV thanks for the quick reply, yeh I fly indoors and out and use both acro and angle dep on the situ, I do all sorts of fpv filming. (Check my channel) lately ive been considering doing some realestate and would just like a more controlled cinematic rate setting for my 25's for when that space gets ultra tight. In general my flying is pretty dialled and I love that quad but ad I say I cant seem to get it quite as bobble free as my cinelog 35. Thanks 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv Looks like I am already subbed... LOL... You can check my website for my rates www.AdventureFPV.com I list both my acro and angle mode rates (Warning they are SLOW) but that is how I get great indoor flights. As far as the bobble goes you may want to try betaflight 4.3 and use the "UAV Tech Cinewhoop" Profiles they are working great for me.
great review, I found that its hard to hover still with avata in tight places. I feel like dji fpv easier to be in tight places, it just sits stable. all manual mode.
Great comparison Lee. There is so much to consider before making a buying decision. This video will help a lot of folks out. These drones are to expensive to make the wrong choice. Thanks for sharing my friend.
Hey Ron no problem, I think If you aready own a Cinewhhop and you have the cash for an upgrade it is a fun drone to have in the fleet. If you are new and you want to keep going in the hobby it may be a good stepping stone but will cost you 2 times as much in the future when it is time to upgrade and expand. Did you pick one up?
@@AdventureFPV No I didn’t, I’ve never found goggles that fit correctly, or I can see property with. And many folks are having issues with new goggles 2 not fitting well.
On a serious note I think dji nailed it with this drone, its no 5" freestyle but the fact you can fly it like a mavic or fully manual is a big advantage.
Yes I totally agree, it is not the best at acro or camera quality, but it packs it all into a small package and there is something to say about that. I think this will be my new "Vacation" drone. Everything is so small and the drone is versatile enough to get many different styles of shots. WIN
Even though I have plenty of my own builds, I'd still take the DJI FPV over the avata if I could only have one. Fortunately, I can eventually have both, so I'll likely buy the avata with flymore used in a few months like I did with the FPV. Question: I know it is smaller, but is there a huge advantage on a fly through with the avata over the DJI FPV with prop guards? Thanks for the comparison video.
Yeah I sold the entire setup as my custom builds are better for now. I am truly sorry for the delay in response. I had a case of TH-cam Burnout. Times have changed for me in recent months and I am slowly starting to get back to flying and my channel. Had a family tragedy, an Occupation change, a New car purchase, Daughter starting to drive. Kids' school activities and more. I prioritized family first and getting my mental state in order before I could resume my channel operations. Life is trending in a more positive direction and wanted to follow up where I left off.
Very fair review and considerations. One other thing that you didn’t mention, probably because you won’t use it currently is the head tracking. I know you have to use it with the other remote, but I recently saw another person using it on a fly through and it was pretty good. I thought it helped the video not be so linear, maybe just me. I’d love to hear your opinion, already know you’re probably like na, lol. Good video.
Hey thanks for the feedback and watching the video. Honestly I had no intention of ever using the motions controller or the head tracking. But you bring up an interesting point about smoothing out the controls. I will give it a try to see how it feels. I do NOT intend on using this feature on any customer site but might be a good way to iron things out. I think DJI just needs to allow custom rates or at least a soft or cinema mode when flying in normal. That would be great.
Why any beginner would choose an Avata - or a 4S FPV beast - to _learn_ on is beyond me. It takes months - if not years - to get the skills so you're not a danger to your kit, to yourself, to other people, to their property, and to household livestock. This is what brushless tiny whoops are for. Everything you learn with them - including tuning - is 100% transferable to larger, more capable craft. They're cheap compared to any DJI or digital cinewhoop, too. So, if you're interested in getting started from scratch, invest in an FPV package that's centered on a tiny whoop. Tool _that_ around for a few months before you take your DJI Avata or chonky cinewhoop out to play. You'll end up getting more bang for your buck out of the bigger rigs in the long run.
100% agree, I made this because I just KNOW new part 107 pilots will want to use this for their business and I wanted to show how much of an advantage starting with a proper kit would be for them. I ran a job with this yesterday as a 2nd pass and it turned out pretty good. Not as good as the whoop run but I could see it working for someone with experience. I have been seeing some CRING "one shot" videos people are putting out. Ughh Thanks for watching Bill.
@@AdventureFPV I'm an angle mode duffer who flies in a 20 by 20 foot, 1 bedroom apartment. I use a chonky 100g, 2S micro that's got a custom BetaFlight tune. What you do with the big boi rigs is impressive. Keep it up.
@@AdventureFPV Get good in tight spaces, the rest is a doddle. Occasionally, I'll set up a jungle gym in the living room out of tripods and other stuff. I never set it up the same way twice, either. The gate I use is only twice the diameter of the drone - gotta hit it perfect. Seeing through a forest of tripod legs to find a line takes practice. And those skills will help you move your Squirt all the better. I do recommend you yourself get a chonky boi to use. Minimum 2S, XT30 connector. The one I fly has been discontinued, and finding parts for it is getting difficult. Good thing I got 3 of 'em and plenty of spare hoops 'n' props. Factory-fresh, it's a potato. I rebuilt it, and updated the firmware to make it the little beast it is today.
It all depends on your flying style. I personally do not care about the gimbal. When I fly Real estate Jobs I use a 0 deg camera angel. So the adjustment means nothing to me.
After purchasing the DJI FPV drone and the hglrc sector d5. I trust my DJI FPV drone more for long distance, over water etc.. the technology in DJI drones are better . For me it's the avata easy. Dji technology is better. The hate they get is real but really their drones are just better. My hglrc sector d5 is more durable but all around the DJI FPV drone is better.
I downgrade the potential for professionals because I am one and I know it the best choice. What should I compare the Avata too if not other? This video is a comparison to see what is right for the viewer. Thanks for watching.
I know everyone has already said this but Lee you have put out one of the best comparisons between a home built and a ready to go like this new one is. I learned a lot that I didn't know about it and I'm not sure whether it be something for me to begin with but I do appreciate all the effort and info you put into this
Hey thanks Matt, I did put lots of work into this video and it is not perfect but I hoped to help people make the right decision when it comes to making a purchase. It is a great and fun quad but it will NOT be replacing my current setup for pro work at the moment.
@@AdventureFPV You are very welcome. You dedication shows Lee👊👊👊
Great information! Glad I met ya today at the game!
I now will have way more homework 😊
Welcome aboard! I am really happy I had the opportunity to meet you as well. I cannot wait until we whoop up on the next team.
Hey it was really nice meeting you today too. Hopefully we can catch up again at the next one.
Great video man! Super tips and insight.
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching.
Best Avata / cinewhoop comparison thus far!! Very professional to the point great presentation Lee! I smashed that like button and congrats on your new purchase 👍🤟🔥🔥🔥
Wow, thanks! I think I am going to put it head to head for real on a job tomorrow to compare the differences.
great video, excellent comparison😁👌 really interesting thank you for the feedback and your impression have a nice weekend and good flight my friend😜✌
Thanks, you too! Go fly some packs...
Just the altitude hold in the AVAT makes him a winer!
Yeah if that is your thing it is great. Thanks for watching.
You can do the same thing with a homebuilt using a $10 lidar sensor. You'll have the same issues you would with the Avata in that if you fly over a couch or table, the drone will want to climb. There might be a way to deal with that in Betaflight on the homebuilt.
Bravo . Lee this is a great video comparison bro🤘🏻👊🏻
Hey thanks Mike!!!!
Thank you for your awesone indepth comparision.
You have a typo @ 8:30... It is angle, not angel
LOL, I figured that had to be one in there somewhere, lots of typing and editing into the night to try and get this review out in a timely manner. Too late now... LOL
@@AdventureFPV lol dont worry, not that critical. I thought you should know it for the next time.
Regards 😃
Great job! breaking down both styles of quads.
No problems, thank you so much for watching. I do not see myself making a change to my current workflow because of this drone. But I do like it.
Will the Avata controls allow you to fly vertically straight up and straight down? the one i am using with the motion controller will not.
Yes you can fly up and down with the regular remote.
hello i have a protek 35 hd do you think theth for work is better then avata?
Depends on what you want to do with it... They both shine in different areas.
Hey dude… Great video. What is the smallest sized whoop style drone that you would feel comfortable putting a full sized GoPro on?
3”… 2.5”…?
Thanks.
I’m a 5” pilot who wants to do real estate tour type stuff.
3.5 for sure... I am truly sorry for the delay in response. I had a case of TH-cam Burnout. Times have changed for me in recent months and I am slowly starting to get back to flying and my channel. Had a family tragedy, an Occupation change, and my Daughter starting to drive. Kids' school activities and more. I prioritized family first and getting my mental state in order before I could resume my channel operations. Life is trending in a more positive direction and wanted to follow up where I left off.
@@AdventureFPV - Well thanks for the response. I hope things settle down for you. 😏🤓
I ended up just getting a GepRC Cinebot 30. I just flew it with my Session 5 attached and it handled that no problem. Now I just have to practice flying slow and smooth. I’m usually a 5” ripper. 😜🤘🏼
Well Lee this was really good information for me. I would like to add a cinewhoop to my collection and I am trying to decide whether to buy the Avata or to buy a custom built. This video has gone a long way helping me make that decision. Another great video.
Glad it was helpful! I think the Avata is a lot of fun and if you have the money to spend on an extra drone... do it. But if you want the real deal build or buy something else. Just my opinion based on my experiences. Thanks for watching Scott.
I JUST got my Avata today - looking forward to trying it for real estate tours. I have the cinelog 25 but I have not quite gotten good enough with it to fly it indoors - do you have a video showing your betaflight tuning or settings for the Cinelog 25 for slow, smooth flight? Not a lot of great info out there on it. thanks for the great video!
Hey David Congrats on the purchase. You will like it for sure. I do not have a video about the 25 yet, But the video idea is currently on my whiteboard and I plan to make a video on general fly through settins and things to adjust on any cinewhoop. Stay tuned coming soonish!!! Cheers
@@AdventureFPV sweet - looking forward to it - took my Cinelog 25 out today and I still feel like I am flying drunk - a great video on settings / betaflight would be just the ticket! Great channel!
I have the Cnelog 25 and I use lo rates with expo and the game changer was the throtle expo where I usually hover the most. Is hard in acro mode but therr are no rules for that and we can use angle sometimes😎
7:08 You're supposed to loosen the screw. But please do not remove it. You loosen it to the point just before it becomes unthreaded. You do not want to take the screws all the way out
great comparison Lee know for me learning fpv my biggest headach ever so much to learn on top of that different stick control over gps drones well said buddy
Glad to help, Just think about turns as "Drifting" that will really help.
This was a great in-depth video! Question: does this drone also take stills photos? I don’t see anyone talking about that. I’m a real estate photographer so I’d love to know that I could use it for traditional drone stills as well. Thoughts??
Cool video man
Hey thank you so much.
Is the avata stock camera really not that great?
No I dont think it is...
Man, I had my first commercial shoot yesterday with the Avata, from a professional perspective super easy to control the ND / ISO. Since your goggle feed is close to your shot footage.
Okay with the action cam you get to know the situations, but especially when a golden hour or near sundown, it's iffy using ND's, I had zero issues with it yesterday.
Thats great man congrats on the gig. I do love the clarity of the goggle feed for sure.
@@AdventureFPV ( was not my first Gig :p but for Avata it was :P ). Yeah, they are fine, as long you don't put the goggles on your forehead. Since there is no extra fan that sweat will turn into fog I think.
Great vid! I was interested in what rates you fly on your cinelog 25? Trying to tweak mine in cant get it as good as my 35. I went for thr avata aswell but I'm pretty mixed on how I feel about it, best thing so far is its the 1st time my family have been able to safely don the goggles and get a taste of what I love in real time
Hey there thanks for watching, Do you fly the 25 indoors? And if so do you do it in manual?
@@AdventureFPV thanks for the quick reply, yeh I fly indoors and out and use both acro and angle dep on the situ, I do all sorts of fpv filming. (Check my channel) lately ive been considering doing some realestate and would just like a more controlled cinematic rate setting for my 25's for when that space gets ultra tight. In general my flying is pretty dialled and I love that quad but ad I say I cant seem to get it quite as bobble free as my cinelog 35. Thanks 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv Looks like I am already subbed... LOL... You can check my website for my rates www.AdventureFPV.com I list both my acro and angle mode rates (Warning they are SLOW) but that is how I get great indoor flights. As far as the bobble goes you may want to try betaflight 4.3 and use the "UAV Tech Cinewhoop" Profiles they are working great for me.
@@AdventureFPV ah cool! 🙏🏼nice one ill check that out! Cheers dude!👊
@@Stevieboyfpv No problem, happy flying and have a great weekend.
Excelente video y comparación saludos.
Me alegro de que te haya gustado mi amigo
Very informative comparison 👍
Hey thanks so much for watching this video man.
great review, I found that its hard to hover still with avata in tight places. I feel like dji fpv easier to be in tight places, it just sits stable. all manual mode.
Yeah I think the Avata is trying to be too smart. Thanks for watching.
awesome video!
Hey Alvy thnk you so much man. Fun drone for sure.
Great comparison Lee. There is so much to consider before making a buying decision. This video will help a lot of folks out. These drones are to expensive to make the wrong choice. Thanks for sharing my friend.
Hey Ron no problem, I think If you aready own a Cinewhhop and you have the cash for an upgrade it is a fun drone to have in the fleet. If you are new and you want to keep going in the hobby it may be a good stepping stone but will cost you 2 times as much in the future when it is time to upgrade and expand. Did you pick one up?
@@AdventureFPV No I didn’t, I’ve never found goggles that fit correctly, or I can see property with. And many folks are having issues with new goggles 2 not fitting well.
1st comment yesss
Thanks man!!!
On a serious note I think dji nailed it with this drone, its no 5" freestyle but the fact you can fly it like a mavic or fully manual is a big advantage.
Yes I totally agree, it is not the best at acro or camera quality, but it packs it all into a small package and there is something to say about that. I think this will be my new "Vacation" drone. Everything is so small and the drone is versatile enough to get many different styles of shots. WIN
Even though I have plenty of my own builds, I'd still take the DJI FPV over the avata if I could only have one. Fortunately, I can eventually have both, so I'll likely buy the avata with flymore used in a few months like I did with the FPV. Question: I know it is smaller, but is there a huge advantage on a fly through with the avata over the DJI FPV with prop guards? Thanks for the comparison video.
Awesome comparison.
Hey Kris thanks, It took me a few days to get this one out. Hopefully, it does not get buried by all the other avata content... Uggghh
@@AdventureFPV Along with the info being excellent, your graphics were awesome. Did you use some kind of template or create from scratch?
All the camera issues can be negated by the fact you can always mount an insta or GoPro to the Avata if you really wanted to.
Yeah I sold the entire setup as my custom builds are better for now. I am truly sorry for the delay in response. I had a case of TH-cam Burnout. Times have changed for me in recent months and I am slowly starting to get back to flying and my channel. Had a family tragedy, an Occupation change, a New car purchase, Daughter starting to drive. Kids' school activities and more. I prioritized family first and getting my mental state in order before I could resume my channel operations. Life is trending in a more positive direction and wanted to follow up where I left off.
Very fair review and considerations. One other thing that you didn’t mention, probably because you won’t use it currently is the head tracking. I know you have to use it with the other remote, but I recently saw another person using it on a fly through and it was pretty good. I thought it helped the video not be so linear, maybe just me. I’d love to hear your opinion, already know you’re probably like na, lol. Good video.
Hey thanks for the feedback and watching the video. Honestly I had no intention of ever using the motions controller or the head tracking. But you bring up an interesting point about smoothing out the controls. I will give it a try to see how it feels. I do NOT intend on using this feature on any customer site but might be a good way to iron things out. I think DJI just needs to allow custom rates or at least a soft or cinema mode when flying in normal. That would be great.
@@AdventureFPV agreed
The geo fencing kills me. I got a autel to try. DJI also limited my alt. So I could get to top of mountain
Yes, I address that in the video 13:27
@@AdventureFPV yeah that's when I made this comment lol cause I agreed
I will wait for Avata 2 in the future
Not a bad idea
Why any beginner would choose an Avata - or a 4S FPV beast - to _learn_ on is beyond me. It takes months - if not years - to get the skills so you're not a danger to your kit, to yourself, to other people, to their property, and to household livestock. This is what brushless tiny whoops are for. Everything you learn with them - including tuning - is 100% transferable to larger, more capable craft. They're cheap compared to any DJI or digital cinewhoop, too. So, if you're interested in getting started from scratch, invest in an FPV package that's centered on a tiny whoop. Tool _that_ around for a few months before you take your DJI Avata or chonky cinewhoop out to play. You'll end up getting more bang for your buck out of the bigger rigs in the long run.
100% agree, I made this because I just KNOW new part 107 pilots will want to use this for their business and I wanted to show how much of an advantage starting with a proper kit would be for them. I ran a job with this yesterday as a 2nd pass and it turned out pretty good. Not as good as the whoop run but I could see it working for someone with experience. I have been seeing some CRING "one shot" videos people are putting out. Ughh Thanks for watching Bill.
@@AdventureFPV I'm an angle mode duffer who flies in a 20 by 20 foot, 1 bedroom apartment. I use a chonky 100g, 2S micro that's got a custom BetaFlight tune. What you do with the big boi rigs is impressive. Keep it up.
@@billmcdonald4335 Hey thanks Bill, I honestly feel the same way about what you fly. Some Micro experience would probably be a good thing for me.
@@AdventureFPV Get good in tight spaces, the rest is a doddle. Occasionally, I'll set up a jungle gym in the living room out of tripods and other stuff. I never set it up the same way twice, either. The gate I use is only twice the diameter of the drone - gotta hit it perfect. Seeing through a forest of tripod legs to find a line takes practice. And those skills will help you move your Squirt all the better. I do recommend you yourself get a chonky boi to use. Minimum 2S, XT30 connector. The one I fly has been discontinued, and finding parts for it is getting difficult. Good thing I got 3 of 'em and plenty of spare hoops 'n' props. Factory-fresh, it's a potato. I rebuilt it, and updated the firmware to make it the little beast it is today.
Mikdhal sais it handled better then his QAV that he has ton of experience with. He flew them around really expensive classic cars.
It flies okay but it definitely doesn't fly as good as some of my other quads. I'm going to try and put in some more time with it this week.
The gimbal alone is enough to make the choice in favor of avata.
It all depends on your flying style. I personally do not care about the gimbal. When I fly Real estate Jobs I use a 0 deg camera angel. So the adjustment means nothing to me.
After purchasing the DJI FPV drone and the hglrc sector d5. I trust my DJI FPV drone more for long distance, over water etc.. the technology in DJI drones are better . For me it's the avata easy. Dji technology is better. The hate they get is real but really their drones are just better. My hglrc sector d5 is more durable but all around the DJI FPV drone is better.
I totally agree if you are looking to trust a drone DJI is the way to go. Each tool has their own purpose.
You provide a good information but you downgrade the avata potential for professionals. Also you compare Avata va others and that is not a good way :)
I downgrade the potential for professionals because I am one and I know it the best choice. What should I compare the Avata too if not other? This video is a comparison to see what is right for the viewer. Thanks for watching.