Thanks a million for this. I have been looking for a resource to explain the pitch concept, and I finally came across this video. I will be looking at the other videos in this series as I feel that the perfecting of the pitch when speaking Japanese is key to be clearly understood and as well sounding authentic. Thumbs up!!!
No need for lines. L and H are enough. All L = an underline. All H = a top line. All LH and HL = a vertical line between them All LL and HH = no vertical line between them
How come おきどけい doesn’t just all become LH? And while Im asking Qs. Dos anyone know of any ear-training resources to help distinguish pitch accent. Im cursed with such bad pitch i often cant tell just from listening what the PA pattern is. Im trying to train ear by listening to color coded mora but its going slow :(
There are many pitch accent rules for compound words. For longer compound words 5+ mora there's a general tendency for the word to be nakadaka with the downstep in the later element of the compound. Usually when the last word is heiban the compound word will be nakadaka with the downstep occuring on the first mora of the 2nd word. There's also a general tendency especially for longer compounds for the -3 rule to occur which means the downstep occurs three mora from the end of the word.
with compound words would they not be considered one word after they have been put together? if so would that not violate the first rule then of the first sound having to be different from the second sound?
never mind, re watched it, seems the 1st rule only applies to the first and second sounds so it seems almost free game after those long as the rest of the word follows the LH, LHL, and HL pattern.
Thanks for the video! But the rule with composite words doesn't work everytime, does it? 日本 is LHL and 日本語 LHHH, so the downstep of the original word is cancelled in the composite. Is that only an exception?
I'm not sure the exact rule in this case for this particular compound cuz like I'm not sure how single mora word like 語 change PA. For this word in particular I just remember it's 4 mora and just default to heiban tho.
Thanks a million for this. I have been looking for a resource to explain the pitch concept, and I finally came across this video. I will be looking at the other videos in this series as I feel that the perfecting of the pitch when speaking Japanese is key to be clearly understood and as well sounding authentic. Thumbs up!!!
Thank you for making this video. It helped me understand the rules of pitch intonation quite a bit better.
great explanations. easy to understand & clear for a self-learner too.
Thank you very much for making this helpful video :)
Brilliant and simple. Thank you!
ありがとう！
How do you type a symbol that notates a pitch like underline, left border, and topline.
No need for lines.
L and H are enough.
All L = an underline.
All H = a top line.
All LH and HL = a vertical line between them
All LL and HH = no vertical line between them
How come おきどけい doesn’t just all become LH? And while Im asking Qs. Dos anyone know of any ear-training resources to help distinguish pitch accent. Im cursed with such bad pitch i often cant tell just from listening what the PA pattern is. Im trying to train ear by listening to color coded mora but its going slow :(
www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/eng/phrasing/index
forvo.com/languages/ja/
Dogen on youtube
There are many pitch accent rules for compound words. For longer compound words 5+ mora there's a general tendency for the word to be nakadaka with the downstep in the later element of the compound. Usually when the last word is heiban the compound word will be nakadaka with the downstep occuring on the first mora of the 2nd word. There's also a general tendency especially for longer compounds for the -3 rule to occur which means the downstep occurs three mora from the end of the word.
with compound words would they not be considered one word after they have been put together? if so would that not violate the first rule then of the first sound having to be different from the second sound?
never mind, re watched it, seems the 1st rule only applies to the first and second sounds so it seems almost free game after those long as the rest of the word follows the LH, LHL, and HL pattern.
I'm pretty sure I can recreate it in the way it's spoken but at the same time I can't detect the difference...
Thanks for the video! But the rule with composite words doesn't work everytime, does it? 日本 is LHL and 日本語 LHHH, so the downstep of the original word is cancelled in the composite. Is that only an exception?
I'm not sure the exact rule in this case for this particular compound cuz like I'm not sure how single mora word like 語 change PA. For this word in particular I just remember it's 4 mora and just default to heiban tho.
when i hear いま kazuma : いま何て
Fuck me! This shit's hard as fuck!
How if "komakai okane" its LHLH. Is that true?
It's true but they are 2 words instead of one single word.
I don't hear anything lmao