Reviewers said the last movmement of Beethoven's 9 was muddy and confusing. Take their suggestions into considerations, but in the end of the day it'll be you who'll be remebered. Good job David.
Hi David, I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for making these videos. I have enjoyed them for quite a while, and as a young composer who writes for fun, you are truly an inspiration. It is so wonderful that we live in a time when composers can interact and engage with their audience so easily. Love your music, and congratulations for achieving this huge goal!
Thank you, David, that was delightful. Well done! I've got a big smile on my face after watching that. Looking forward to hearing this piece. You'll have to let us all know where we can find it.
In November of 2018, the London Symphony Orchestra did two of my works at the Barbican. Needless to say, it was one of the greatest moments of my compositional life. And I’ll probably blab and blab about it in the spirit of shameless self promotion. 😄 Congrats David on the Proms. That is indeed a dream.
I liked what you said about the sort of blurring together in memory concerts get. I cannot remember most of the concerts Most of the fun and good ones that fade away, leaving only the exceptionally moving or exceptionally terrible. I guess a sign of a good show is that most audience members will just remember it as a pleasant night, and, hopefully, a few people will remember it as amazing.
Thanks for the watch suggestion David. Sharing the vulnerabilities of writing, 1st rehearsal (before and after feelings) and that the letting go of the goal of perfection or success can drastically increase the joy of the musical journey and are all things that I have felt in my minor creations and gatherings of musicians to play with. It is interesting that someone of your caliber, knowledge and recognition still feels the confusing emotional journey of letting a creation grow into being. Congratulations on achieving your goal and creating a beautiful piece for the occasion.
This is my favorite video of yours! I have only been watching you for a couple of months but I am so proud of you, seeing you take a bow after piece is finished. So happy that you got to this amazing goal. I have been thinking to make a video(series) like this, to show what the process from the beginning to performance is like.
I love your outlook on the whole thing at the end. It encourages me as a composer to see the grand scheme instead of one piece or one performance. Thank you for this!! :)
Congratulations. And thanks for an awesome and honest video. I would love to see more behind the scene-footage as well. It's really interesting to see what you think about the project at the different stages of the process.
I looooove this! Congratulations! You are very inspiring and reassuring. Your imagination, curiosity and tenacity are all great sources to draw from and I'm so grateful to have videos documenting it all! Thank you!
Hi David, I enjoyed watching this video during the week and by sheer accident I heard a replay of the concert in Hobart via ABCFM on the car radio today. Well done on achieving this huge personal goal!
The Oboe is the one instrument (in my own 16 year musical journey) that gets the worst rep/least appreciation. It took until I was playing at University levels before I heard(in person) an Oboe *played* , as opposed to someone quacking on it. MAYBE the courageous kid who made it state(as a freshman, while I was a senior), 1st chair Oboe. He's my one exception. But other than him, everyone around me musically trashed it. So thank you David. Thank you for the liquid gold of a Oboe in your PROMS piece. (Now do something for English Horn)
Congratulations! what a nice achievement, hopefully you'll remember it as one highlight in a satisfying career. You're kind of right though, new pieces come and go in the concert hall and most don't change the world. Good to be philosophical about it.
I never really put in any thought as to how seating or where the performance took place could greatly affect the sound. Then again I’ve never really been to a concert, everything I hear is usually from my phone or a tv. Interesting stuff. Congratulations as well.
There a vid on Look Mum No Computer where he is doing a piece by Lucier which essentially becomes a recording of the room (it makes more sense when you hear it). The venue has a major effect on the sound. Although I'm curious if writing a "neutral" piece comes to mind when composing in general.
I haven't been to the Royal Albert Hall in years but, back when I lived in London, I used to go there a lot. I think that they've done a lot of work to improve the sound over the years, starting with acoustic baffles in the domed roof that looked like inverted mushrooms, and going on from there, but there was a time when where you sat in the auditorium made a huge difference to the sound that you heard. The rounded oval shape of the hall produced distinct foci where reflected sound waves reinforced each other and you could hear everything well, but also strange dead-spots where the reflections partially cancelled each other out. It's a tall building too, and the sound level and quality varies with altitude. I directed a video shoot there once, so got to go to all sorts of back-stage areas during a concert. As I say, the sound quality really did vary with your position, though I gather that its somewhat improved in recent years.
Congratulations on that achievement. I have two questions. Do you think it's useless nowadays to write music with paper and pencil? And that good would be a video where you show us the computers you use to write music. Thank you
Congrats, I cant imagine how proud you must be. How did you reach a point where you made a living composing. Does most of your money come from one source (the way many jazz musicians make their living playing country music?)
I think in one of his videos he mentions that he is teaching at a university. The video was about how many composers are white, middle-aged men with an academic background and how this reflects on the sound of western classic music.
I watched this video yesterday and managed to see the iplayer video today. Congrats on a tremendously successful piece. Particularly, that cinematic pad you created behind the first oboe solo is magical. I'm not certain the idea of sidechaining is self-evident in the performance. Perhaps I've missed a nuance here and there as I expected to hear lots of some instruments modifying the "velocity" of others in the texture.
I listened to the piece yesterday on Radio 3's archive. First off - congratulations! Although you sort of diminish the importance of it in this video, it's also true that it could be a quite important event in your career, isn't it? Seems possible. You never know. I'm glad you talk about the issue with the title, because one of the first things I noticed about the piece was that the sidechaining idea didn't seem as prominent as I thought it would be. Now I know why. The stuff about not making the piece too easy was also interesting, because I got the impression while listening that parts of it were just very, very hard to play, and the players were sometimes kind of scrambling. How do you balance difficulty for the players out against musical interest? Seems a tricky area. Do you have the luxury of having players test out parts while you are still composing, to give you feedback on what they think is working and what may not work so well? Anyway, I enjoyed the piece, and look forward to whatever is coming up next.
Thanks, I actually cut part of the video where I said the music got back on track with the title! I realise it may not be instantly apparent, but there are actually a huge amount of sidechaining-related ideas throughout the piece. I was able to talk to a couple of the soloists, but the real issue is more to do with time with the orchestra - so many variables to get right there, and so little time!
Thanks. So I had another listen, this time to the audio link you give and keeping in mind what you said about the sidechaing, and on this second go, I did hear more of that, especially in that characteristic one-note crescendo thing, but maybe in how the lines interacted, too. For whatever reason, the sound quality seemed better than off the Radio 3 site, so that helped. Fun stuff - I hope some other orchestras pick it up. The rehearsal time issue must be frustrating, not just for you , but for everyone. The Proms format seems kind of brutal, in that respect.
You are a great inspiration to me and I thank God for You and your channel. You are smart and your content is great, believe me when I say to hell with the nay sayers.
if you're in the UK, yes, it's on the iPlayer www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06crs8z/bbc-proms-2018-david-bruce-sidechaining-prom-3 or the whole concert is here www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bbmh5s/bbc-proms-2018-bbc-young-musician-at-40
Any way to listen to your piece when one's not located in the UK? BBC Player wont let me play it - geo blocking. And of course, congrats to that accomplishment David, well done!
Congratulations! Rushed to find the recording online, only to discover it (if it's the piece itself; an 11 minute video on the BBC proms site) is "not available in your location". Argh... Do alert us all once this becomes available worldwide in some form.
You can listen to it on bbc radio also outside of UK or download it from 5 against 4. The piece starts in 10:40 on the BBC3 recording. www.bbc.co.uk/events/emmxp6/play/aq8gmb/b0b9w8yb 5against4.com/2018/07/17/proms-2018-ben-foster-young-musician-theme-david-bruce-sidechaining-iain-farrington-gershwinicity-world-premieres/
Weird that you even got any negative reviews, because I liked the piece. Also in Finland I haven't ever seen a single negative review even when the premiere piece is terrible. The reviewer usually just copies the program notes and tells about the composers lives and other works.
Brilliant! It must have taken a tremendous amount of dedication to get to this level in your career. But please - no more open-mouth selfie thumbnails?
PRO TIP: Make sure the synth and the vocals are orchestrated cleanly
Nick Sebesta well at least the synth and the vocals are in the same key
I love this man
Second time I heard this meme this week (the other time is in Adam Neely Q&A). Where do this come from?
I think it comes from a comment to a video Adam Neely mentioned in one of his videos about jazz fusion
MAN TRA Exactly. A stupid comment on a sophisticated reharmonization of a pop song, whivh Neely used as a foil in one of his videos.
OMG being a composer takes balls.
Reviewers said the last movmement of Beethoven's 9 was muddy and confusing. Take their suggestions into considerations, but in the end of the day it'll be you who'll be remebered. Good job David.
Hi David, I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for making these videos. I have enjoyed them for quite a while, and as a young composer who writes for fun, you are truly an inspiration. It is so wonderful that we live in a time when composers can interact and engage with their audience so easily. Love your music, and congratulations for achieving this huge goal!
Glad you're finding them interesting! Many thanks.
Agree with all of that! (Except, in my case, the word 'young'...) :)
Congratulations again David! A well-deserved achievement for an amazing composer!
Brilliant documentation. If only we had this kind of look into composers/compositions throughout time!
Thank you, David, that was delightful. Well done! I've got a big smile on my face after watching that. Looking forward to hearing this piece. You'll have to let us all know where we can find it.
Okay, watching the performance on www.bbc.co.uk/events/emmxp6/play/aq8gmb/p06crs8z . Marvellous! A real joy. :-)
Congratulations!
Wow congratulations. I would love to one day be able to say that I have had a success that I have dreamed of since my childhood
In November of 2018, the London Symphony Orchestra did two of my works at the Barbican. Needless to say, it was one of the greatest moments of my compositional life. And I’ll probably blab and blab about it in the spirit of shameless self promotion. 😄 Congrats David on the Proms. That is indeed a dream.
Just watched the whole Prom. A fabulous night, yours and Gershwinicity a real highlight. Many congratulations.
I sat just behind Iain Farrington and chatted to him quite a bit - really nice guy
IIKR?!!! Gershwinicity was STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!
What a privilege that you have shared an inside view of this with us. Hope to hear the whole piece some day.
I liked what you said about the sort of blurring together in memory concerts get. I cannot remember most of the concerts Most of the fun and good ones that fade away, leaving only the exceptionally moving or exceptionally terrible. I guess a sign of a good show is that most audience members will just remember it as a pleasant night, and, hopefully, a few people will remember it as amazing.
Thanks for the watch suggestion David. Sharing the vulnerabilities of writing, 1st rehearsal (before and after feelings) and that the letting go of the goal of perfection or success can drastically increase the joy of the musical journey and are all things that I have felt in my minor creations and gatherings of musicians to play with. It is interesting that someone of your caliber, knowledge and recognition still feels the confusing emotional journey of letting a creation grow into being. Congratulations on achieving your goal and creating a beautiful piece for the occasion.
This is my favorite video of yours! I have only been watching you for a couple of months but I am so proud of you, seeing you take a bow after piece is finished. So happy that you got to this amazing goal. I have been thinking to make a video(series) like this, to show what the process from the beginning to performance is like.
8:48 the sweet, sweet sound of achievement
Congratulations, Mr. Bruce and thank you for sharing your journey with us.
Congratulations. That's very impressive.
Congradulation David , and thank you for sharing the behind the scenes bits
I heard it - it was wonderful.
Wow! Congratulations on that! You are an excellent composer!
in the future, i'll have a work interpreted at the Proms too
Heartily Congratulations David! Hope the piece is available on youtube or anywhere else for us to listen.
5against4.com/audio/_Bruce,David/2018-07-15_David_Bruce_-_Sidechaining_(WP).flac
congratulations! the piece sounds wonderful in the bits shown in the video
I love your outlook on the whole thing at the end. It encourages me as a composer to see the grand scheme instead of one piece or one performance. Thank you for this!! :)
Congratulations. And thanks for an awesome and honest video. I would love to see more behind the scene-footage as well. It's really interesting to see what you think about the project at the different stages of the process.
Thanks for this vid, so generous! Really gives us a sense of the doubts as well as the joys of putting together a high profile performance
I looooove this! Congratulations! You are very inspiring and reassuring. Your imagination, curiosity and tenacity are all great sources to draw from and I'm so grateful to have videos documenting it all!
Thank you!
Thanks for being so honest about the whole thing ☺️
What valuable perspective. Thanks for sharing!
Hi David, I enjoyed watching this video during the week and by sheer accident I heard a replay of the concert in Hobart via ABCFM on the car radio today. Well done on achieving this huge personal goal!
The Oboe is the one instrument (in my own 16 year musical journey) that gets the worst rep/least appreciation. It took until I was playing at University levels before I heard(in person) an Oboe *played* , as opposed to someone quacking on it. MAYBE the courageous kid who made it state(as a freshman, while I was a senior), 1st chair Oboe. He's my one exception. But other than him, everyone around me musically trashed it. So thank you David. Thank you for the liquid gold of a Oboe in your PROMS piece.
(Now do something for English Horn)
Thank you for making the video and sharing your thoughts throughout the entire process!
Congrats David... well deserved
Congratulations! what a nice achievement, hopefully you'll remember it as one highlight in a satisfying career.
You're kind of right though, new pieces come and go in the concert hall and most don't change the world. Good to be philosophical about it.
Hugely inspiring! Congratulations!
Thanks for sharing your journey!
Congrats! You do fabulous work. I was introduced to your work on 8notes and have used many of your pieces as I am a subscriber. Bravo!
So cool! Awesome insight! Congrats!
Wow So cool.
Very heartfelt.. inspiring..
Concerts can definitely be stressful for those involved, although no matter the outcome it's a great learning experience. Congratulations!
very well done!
This made me very happy. I hope it made you even happier!
This Peace sounds Amazing!!!!
Piece
Congratulations. Well done!
Congratulations, David!
Congratulations! Fantastic stuff!
Very insightful as always. And yes, congratulations!
I never really put in any thought as to how seating or where the performance took place could greatly affect the sound. Then again I’ve never really been to a concert, everything I hear is usually from my phone or a tv. Interesting stuff. Congratulations as well.
There a vid on Look Mum No Computer where he is doing a piece by Lucier which essentially becomes a recording of the room (it makes more sense when you hear it). The venue has a major effect on the sound.
Although I'm curious if writing a "neutral" piece comes to mind when composing in general.
quintessenceSL I’ll be sure to check out the video.
I haven't been to the Royal Albert Hall in years but, back when I lived in London, I used to go there a lot. I think that they've done a lot of work to improve the sound over the years, starting with acoustic baffles in the domed roof that looked like inverted mushrooms, and going on from there, but there was a time when where you sat in the auditorium made a huge difference to the sound that you heard. The rounded oval shape of the hall produced distinct foci where reflected sound waves reinforced each other and you could hear everything well, but also strange dead-spots where the reflections partially cancelled each other out. It's a tall building too, and the sound level and quality varies with altitude. I directed a video shoot there once, so got to go to all sorts of back-stage areas during a concert. As I say, the sound quality really did vary with your position, though I gather that its somewhat improved in recent years.
Thanks for that, I loved LMNC's video and also the original Lucier!
Congratulations David :)
That was awesome, congrats, David!
Congrats on the piece! AND premiere!!!! :)
Oh nice!!!!! I am very glad to find a fellow musician youtuber! :)
Bravo 👏🏻
8:46 - 8:54 - Thanks for the sample!
Congratulations on that achievement. I have two questions. Do you think it's useless nowadays to write music with paper and pencil? And that good would be a video where you show us the computers you use to write music. Thank you
Congrats man!
Congratulations.
Congrats, I cant imagine how proud you must be. How did you reach a point where you made a living composing. Does most of your money come from one source (the way many jazz musicians make their living playing country music?)
This is something I'd quite like to know aswell, perhaps you can do a video on it David?
I think in one of his videos he mentions that he is teaching at a university. The video was about how many composers are white, middle-aged men with an academic background and how this reflects on the sound of western classic music.
STOP PRESS: Link to the full performance now available on TH-cam! th-cam.com/video/OM6L6FjAf6k/w-d-xo.html
I watched this video yesterday and managed to see the iplayer video today. Congrats on a tremendously successful piece. Particularly, that cinematic pad you created behind the first oboe solo is magical.
I'm not certain the idea of sidechaining is self-evident in the performance. Perhaps I've missed a nuance here and there as I expected to hear lots of some instruments modifying the "velocity" of others in the texture.
I listened to the piece yesterday on Radio 3's archive. First off - congratulations! Although you sort of diminish the importance of it in this video, it's also true that it could be a quite important event in your career, isn't it? Seems possible. You never know.
I'm glad you talk about the issue with the title, because one of the first things I noticed about the piece was that the sidechaining idea didn't seem as prominent as I thought it would be. Now I know why.
The stuff about not making the piece too easy was also interesting, because I got the impression while listening that parts of it were just very, very hard to play, and the players were sometimes kind of scrambling. How do you balance difficulty for the players out against musical interest? Seems a tricky area. Do you have the luxury of having players test out parts while you are still composing, to give you feedback on what they think is working and what may not work so well?
Anyway, I enjoyed the piece, and look forward to whatever is coming up next.
Thanks, I actually cut part of the video where I said the music got back on track with the title! I realise it may not be instantly apparent, but there are actually a huge amount of sidechaining-related ideas throughout the piece. I was able to talk to a couple of the soloists, but the real issue is more to do with time with the orchestra - so many variables to get right there, and so little time!
Thanks. So I had another listen, this time to the audio link you give and keeping in mind what you said about the sidechaing, and on this second go, I did hear more of that, especially in that characteristic one-note crescendo thing, but maybe in how the lines interacted, too. For whatever reason, the sound quality seemed better than off the Radio 3 site, so that helped. Fun stuff - I hope some other orchestras pick it up.
The rehearsal time issue must be frustrating, not just for you , but for everyone. The Proms format seems kind of brutal, in that respect.
Nice day in the life!
The conductor is David Brophy?
Andrew Gourlay
You are a great inspiration to me and I thank God for You and your channel. You are smart and your content is great, believe me when I say to hell with the nay sayers.
Does BBC proms have a full video?
if you're in the UK, yes, it's on the iPlayer www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06crs8z/bbc-proms-2018-david-bruce-sidechaining-prom-3 or the whole concert is here www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bbmh5s/bbc-proms-2018-bbc-young-musician-at-40
Any way to listen to your piece when one's not located in the UK? BBC Player wont let me play it - geo blocking. And of course, congrats to that accomplishment David, well done!
I just pinned a link at the top of the comments which has an audio link (not sure how long it will be available!)
Thank you!
@@DBruce I think I took too long. Such a pity to miss out. Please let me know if it is performed and released to the international audience.
Where can I find a recording of your piece?
On FIveagainstfour blog or from BBC3 Radio from the Proms Website.
Congratulations!
Rushed to find the recording online, only to discover it (if it's the piece itself; an 11 minute video on the BBC proms site) is "not available in your location". Argh... Do alert us all once this becomes available worldwide in some form.
WhyCan'tIRemainAnonymous?! Change your location with a vpn?
You can listen to it on bbc radio also outside of UK or download it from 5 against 4. The piece starts in 10:40 on the BBC3 recording.
www.bbc.co.uk/events/emmxp6/play/aq8gmb/b0b9w8yb
5against4.com/2018/07/17/proms-2018-ben-foster-young-musician-theme-david-bruce-sidechaining-iain-farrington-gershwinicity-world-premieres/
Mikkis thanks!
I find your nihilism really reassuring
plenty more where that came from (-:
Is the video asynchrone?
Who can I hear (better watch) the peace online?
Mazel Tov!
So you achieved your dreams from childhood! So is that all four senses of reaching Carnegie Hall?
We're you approached by the BBC or is there a process to get your piece accepted for the Proms?
Weird that you even got any negative reviews, because I liked the piece. Also in Finland I haven't ever seen a single negative review even when the premiere piece is terrible. The reviewer usually just copies the program notes and tells about the composers lives and other works.
What is the name of software you usually use to write your music
Looks like sibelius
Brilliant! It must have taken a tremendous amount of dedication to get to this level in your career. But please - no more open-mouth selfie thumbnails?
cut yer eyebrows man
NEVER!! Although I did notice they went astray a bit in this video!
well on your own head be it :)
Can I just get more than double digit views? An unplayed digital music file doesn't make a sound, it's a useless collection of bits.
Congratulations David.
Congratulations!
Congratulations!!!
Congratulations!