My great grandfather, I was told, was a knife fighter. My grandfather bought land from fur traders along the Missouri river and established a ranch. My young life was enriched with the stories around that region. Thank you for your story.
I learned to use and practiced with knives when I was young.. Was naturally a good shot too, and plenty tough. Envisioned myself as Daniel Boone. However, I don't think I could have taken the cold, and flat out misery of the mountains. Regarding the indians defering from entering very deep in that swamp, the 50 Hawken I purchased and practiced with, could hit a quarter at 50 yards. Indians believed in 'the strength of personal medicine', and several shots from a rifle like that they would not want any part of that.
Mountain men were most common in the North American Rocky Mountains from about 1810 through to the 1880s (with a peak population in the early 1840s). Approximately 3,000 mountain men ranged the mountains between 1820 and 1840, the peak beaver-harvesting period.
Not many modern folk would have made it back then. Crazy to think that lifestyle wasn't too terribly long ago. In the grand scheme. Good story, now a subscriber.
I've binge watched almost all of the HOKC videos and absolutely love them. Based on my other readings in Western history, they appear to be reasonably accurate.
I'll keep this point as narrowly focused as I can. Segment of the warm bodied seat. It not unusual to see references of using even bodies of there fellow companions in such ways. For example card tables. Life expectancy of a rocky mountain fur trapper was very short. A mountain man into retirement age is a exception instead of expectation. As someone who lived as close as possible traveling the Rockies from northern BC/ Alberta south to Mexico border with Bertha laying across between a pommel and myself, this was a way of callously facing there own mortality. Though it true I never faced a warring tribe, wild life, elements, or even a slip in judgment could be......
Im Oglala Lakota from Pine Ridge Indian Reservation South Dakota George Two Eagle 40yrsold i survived Alcoholism I'm forever thankful my grandfather's died for us to de here.. Relatives we need your support please don't let the indian die like this again! Drug Epidemic is upon us now! Pray for us I need horse's I need people with good heart's Lakota 23 Wamblinunpa
How could the trapper sit on a Blackfoot warrior? The Blackfoot upon leaving carried their dead back with them for burial, it states such in this video..
Wow eh, imagine the intense emotions everyone was feeling when the fighting was going on. The west was not for feeble minded people you needed to be more than tough to survive. Imagine what todays batch of people, whose feelings would probably be hurt by this video, would have done had they been apart of any of these type of exchanges. Much respect to the mountain men for holding their own against my ancestors.
@@GodsHound444 Whoa. What a beautiful sounding language ! Thank you for this correction. ~"'Aho !"'~ my Sisika Black"feet" Brothah ! ✊ Signed; The Hyper-neurotic Yidd Kid from So. California ✋
@@GodsHound444 Yea but it was the Northern Niitsitapi (Siksika’s) that were referred to as blackfoot by other tribes. I believe Piikani’s were described as “spotted robes” but It’s been awhile since I’ve heard the story.
If the facts are accurate on this one, that was a miserable performance by the natives. The odds were against the Blackfeet. 30-40 vs 20-30 mountain men. I love the mad dash painting. It is amusing, but if you have ever had to run for your life... you later ask, "How the F did I get away?!"
Nice story but the trap shown is a conibear style which wasn't in common use until the late 1950's, Get better pictures of period traps from the Fur Trade Museum in Chadron, Nebraska
I am a German. We have a really bad history when we re looking backwards and see how we treated the jewish people with our ``Rassegesetze``, But when I see how the americans treated the first nation people -sorry but from my view this was also a holocaust over some hundreds yeahrs! Nowdays you see the rests of these nations suffering,desorientated and destroyed! What are you doing with your past?
Yup, History is most viewed and accepted by the perspective of those who prevailed . I offer this, those who came here sought not to learn and share resources but to possess and gain wealth for which they saw as free for the taking by decree or by force or someone else would. The irony of American History is it still fundamentally does this via Government and Corporate power. Only a fool believes they can own land, water, forest, fish. Resources that are older than mankind and will exist longer than man. Stop paying taxes or registration on your homes and cars and see how long until your beloved Government takes it from you. We don't fault non Natives for wanting something better for themselves or their children but realize that your legacy was and is built on a false perspective of freedom.
You’re not a Nazi, and I’m not a union soldier. I think the point of history is to learn it, and then repeat the good things and do not repeat the bad.
Kenneth Fox This is a reply to a question you posted on a video about the Blackfoot Indians and the Mt. Men. The Blackfoot Indians got their guns from the Hudson Bay Company which built trading posts in Canada during the 1700s and later. These trading Posts would trade guns and many other tools and cooking ware to the Blackfoot and other Indians for Beaver Pelts and other furs. There was also the Northwest Fur Co that built trading posts in Canada which did the same. The Lewis and Clark expedition clashed with the Blackfoot in 1803 while crossing Montana, the Blackfoot had guns at that time.
no we're not. we are different ethnic groups. far different histories. we are only very distantly related. like how bengali and a european are related because theyre both indoeuropean.
running out ov books/podcast/college lecture... how would one learn about precolonization? Specifically the Blackfoot confederation's history. VERY specifically the Paegan tribes history and culture before migrating with the Blackfoot in the midwest.
If anyone ever says that, it’s because they taught us that in school, they taught us that as a way to justify the colonizers stealing the land from native nations and peoples, not every native group was nomadic, many were either semi nomadic or had already established agriculture and farming techniques. Also don’t go calling people “native lovers” you sound like a racist idiot
@@agustinrico3304 The land was already stolen long before the first European ever reached it. If it was all right for indigenous people to violently take land from each other then why wasn't it okay for whites to do the same?
@@adampeters9861 the indigenous people before would fight wars like how the Europeans fought with each other. The colonizers came and promised peace, but would slaughter women and children, they’d make peace treaties with native peoples and than back track and betray them. That’s why we say they stole the land, because it’s not a comparable thing to how natives would fight for land against each other
The description you gave the blackfoot/ blackfeet's as a warrior culture is a bit too much & absolutely misleading. A warrior culture means those who fought for: land, family, traditions & honour and went to war no matter of odds. A warrior did not hesitate to sacrifice what he loves & to defend what Waka gave him, because he knew Waka will receive his sacrifice. These BF were brave against small groups but never a modern military, of the time. I recommend, before you draw boundaries of territory you consider those brave Nations who defended their lands against imperialism. The territory you mentioned belongs to a much larger Nation (The Great Sioux Nation's) Nakota, Dakota, Lakota. We don't claim a large region of land and not be on it, we are on lands we claim then & now.
Is that Why the GREAT SIOUX NATION paid the Blackfoot to let them live on their territory (Morley Alberta)? After SittingBull the Great war Chief tucked his Tail and hid on Blackfoot territory! Don't Talk $hit if you don't know your $hit
Mountain men were pure capitalists, dwho helped destroy whole eco-systems which caused issues we're still dealing with the effects today. The eradication of bevers, wolves, and buffalo for example.
@@davidgrant2008 and toilet paper and electricity and capitlism has gone on to prove to be boons to the environment? Oh wait they've all but polluted and destoyed most ecosystems that make up the natural world as we knew it in the short span of 200 years...
@@williampoppell5189that attitude of not caring how one survives is why capitalism has basically killed the world in only 200 years. It's a shity system that causes people prioritize short term gains for long term sustainability, and why its all falling apart now that theres no one left to conintually kill for more resource rich lands. But if all you wanted to do was improve your lot back then you could just marry into a native nation and live far better than in any city, until capitlaist destoryed that way of life by stealing your land and killing all the bufflo damning up all the rivers before forcing your family into poverty and poor nurtrion on reservations...
@@darthchingaso3613 yep its so easy to be concerned about the so called environment today while your computer or smartphone is made out a petroleum product and metal stripped mined out of the Congo forgetting that in the World then the more important environmental nessity of having to put food in your mouth, to do that you have hunt ,kill, butcher and cook and not get killed yourself. Much more pressing maters back then like staying alive so your children's children children's can sit in classroom with air-conditioning and a free lunch program.
@@mr.mcgurt2679 im literally blackfoot dumbass, i live on the reservation and have an official tribal ID. my whole family is full blooded, we are over 120,000 in our whole confederation still alive today. most of us live in montana, but i live on our canadian reserves. We had more modern battle tactics at the time than you europoors who just stood there in lines to throw lead walls at eachother beacuse you guys were so inaccurate with your muskets. we had guns and horses and utilized cavalry and rifle warfare, combined with bow and arrow, which was the favoured weapon in terms of speed, until repeating arms with brass self containing cartridges became mainstream in the 1860's-1870's. they would even have on foot tactics more closesly resembling modern tactics than european tactics at the time of standing lines. We would actually get on foot, seperate into units and storm a fort or town like a modern soldier would. The close range allowing for mostly rifles to be used and making for a more devestating effect. you can look up a book called "Native Norrth American Shields, armor and fortifications. which details in great depth the development of wartactics. The chapter on the plains goes into massive depth on the devestating combination of horses and bows which became replaced with guns when they became available the far west where lived in 1700's. maybe if europeans had better tactics it wouldnt have taken 300+ years to conquer us with industrialization and half the continent's resources vs us hunting fucking buffalo. you guys even let us keep most of our land in montana LMAOO
Why is there this white boy covering all the Native American Battles? You got this info from someones book who was on ONE OF THE SIDE OF THE STORY. LIKE ALL HISTORY. 👍🏽
😅😅😅 That's where having an actual written language helps. Where people who had daily journals and reports helps. It's difficult to discern drawn stick figures like the dog soldier's book.
My great grandfather, I was told, was a knife fighter. My grandfather bought land from fur traders along the Missouri river and established a ranch. My young life was enriched with the stories around that region. Thank you for your story.
I learned to use and practiced with knives when I was young.. Was naturally a good shot too, and plenty tough. Envisioned myself as Daniel Boone. However, I don't think I could have taken the cold, and flat out misery of the mountains. Regarding the indians defering from entering very deep in that swamp, the 50 Hawken I purchased and practiced with, could hit a quarter at 50 yards. Indians believed in 'the strength of personal medicine', and several shots from a rifle like that they would not want any part of that.
Knife fighting business fell off so he started to farm ? Bet you're related to Daniel Boone too. 😂
Mountain men were most common in the North American Rocky Mountains from about 1810 through to the 1880s (with a peak population in the early 1840s). Approximately 3,000 mountain men ranged the mountains between 1820 and 1840, the peak beaver-harvesting period.
Great story. Had never heard it. More Mountain Man stories please.
Not many modern folk would have made it back then. Crazy to think that lifestyle wasn't too terribly long ago. In the grand scheme. Good story, now a subscriber.
I agree. If I was plopped in that time as I am now, I wouldn't make it. If I was raised there, maybe. Maybe.
@@skrog907 We'd make it. #sistersbrothers
Not many folk back then would have made it as mountain men - apparently, a number of the mountain men didn't make it either!
@@hilariousname6826 the vast majority didn't and the ones that did had crippling ptsd thonit wasn't recognized at the time.
Just remember who writes History.
I've binge watched almost all of the HOKC videos and absolutely love them. Based on my other readings in Western history, they appear to be reasonably accurate.
That trap is a 110 Coniber used for muskrat.
Those Blackfoot sound so Superior
Fantastic. This guy reminds me of my favorite professor years ago
Thank you!
Well done. You took us there.
Great Story Brilliantly Told!!!
I'll keep this point as narrowly focused as I can. Segment of the warm bodied seat.
It not unusual to see references of using even bodies of there fellow companions in such ways. For example card tables.
Life expectancy of a rocky mountain fur trapper was very short. A mountain man into retirement age is a exception instead of expectation.
As someone who lived as close as possible traveling the Rockies from northern BC/ Alberta south to Mexico border with Bertha laying across between a pommel and myself, this was a way of callously facing there own mortality. Though it true I never faced a warring tribe, wild life, elements, or even a slip in judgment could be......
Great story. Keep them coming.
Thank you for listening! Much more coming!
Great video, I’m going to have to get that book and read it
Great information well spoken also
Thank you for listening! More videos coming weekly!
Great narration....well done Sir, well done indeed.
Thank you! Lots more content coming!
Hawken rifles single shot against expert horsemen with bows and lanced
Im Oglala Lakota from Pine Ridge Indian Reservation South Dakota George Two Eagle 40yrsold i survived Alcoholism I'm forever thankful my grandfather's died for us to de here.. Relatives we need your support please don't let the indian die like this again!
Drug Epidemic is upon us now! Pray for us
I need horse's I need people with good heart's
Lakota 23 Wamblinunpa
You have our prayers, brother.
I just bought the book... lovely.
It's a fun read! Hope you enjoy as much as we did.
Very good video. I really liked it. new subscriber
Very glad you enjoyed it! Much more to come!
Great stories,and cool music background!
Thank you
Thank you!
Love your content
🎉🎉🎉
Excellent channel 👏👏👏
Im certain it will return overnight in the very near future.
The extinction of the Buffalo was a crime against Humanity .the indigenous tribes were defending their country and their way of life
War stories from the frontier😍😍
How could the trapper sit on a Blackfoot warrior? The Blackfoot upon leaving carried their dead back with them for burial, it states such in this video..
You've never had a tomahawk fight 😉🥰😅
There were a few that fell near the thicket that the Blackfeet were not able to recover.
@@historyattheokcorral Yeah, I heard. I was just mucking about.
@@g392_cs_echo5 The narrator should check his notes before speaking and contradicting himself..
@@dukeman7595 He didn't. He never said they picked up all the warriors.
I thought they loaded the bodies on the horses, how was there still a dead native to sit on🤔
Wow eh, imagine the intense emotions everyone was feeling when the fighting was going on. The west was not for feeble minded people you needed to be more than tough to survive. Imagine what todays batch of people, whose feelings would probably be hurt by this video, would have done had they been apart of any of these type of exchanges. Much respect to the mountain men for holding their own against my ancestors.
Nice video well done
Thank you for saying "Blackfoot" instead of "Blackfeet"
- This error really inflames my Toosh.
- Signed; A Hyper-neurotic Yidd Kid from So. Calif !*
If you are Amska-pi-pikunii we call ourselves "Blackfeet". Blackfoot is in Canada
@@GodsHound444
Whoa. What a beautiful sounding
language ! Thank you for this correction. ~"'Aho !"'~ my Sisika Black"feet" Brothah ! ✊
Signed; The Hyper-neurotic Yidd Kid
from So. California ✋
@@GodsHound444 Yea but it was the Northern Niitsitapi (Siksika’s) that were referred to as blackfoot by other tribes. I believe Piikani’s were described as “spotted robes” but It’s been awhile since I’ve heard the story.
@@juiceman104 Thank you. "Take it slow" & ""A'ho"" !
From your SoCal, Yidd Kid Brodah *
"Blackfeet" in Montana
"Blackfoot" in Canada.
You should be "enflamed" with your own lack of research...
🤷🏻♂️
If the facts are accurate on this one, that was a miserable performance by the natives.
The odds were against the Blackfeet. 30-40 vs 20-30 mountain men.
I love the mad dash painting. It is amusing, but if you have ever had to run for your life... you later ask, "How the F did I get away?!"
I was a Rocky mountain trapper & great Indian fighter. The greatest hunter Lewis and Clark expedition had! In a previous life.
That's respect.
I was Hidatsa.
Don't show Conibear traps, this trap was invented in 1957. No traper use them back in XIX because they they didn't exist
Hoke Seeeeaaaaa
Hoke Seeeeeeeeaaaaaa
You mean the trappers lost nobody? Nobody wounded?
Would love to see the WOKIES go up against the plains Indian
Ok, Custer
No
@@davidcantu3972 Yes.
@@davidcantu3972 Libtards vs Indians would contribute greatly to Western Civilization.
american brain rot be like:
Mountain men 10 injuns nil
Nice story but the trap shown is a conibear style which wasn't in common use until the late 1950's, Get better pictures of period traps from the Fur Trade Museum in Chadron, Nebraska
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I am a German. We have a really bad history when we re looking backwards and see how we treated the jewish people with our ``Rassegesetze``, But when I see how the americans treated the first nation people -sorry but from my view this was also a holocaust over some hundreds yeahrs! Nowdays you see the rests of these nations suffering,desorientated and destroyed! What are you doing with your past?
Yup,
History is most viewed and accepted by the perspective of those who prevailed . I offer this, those who came here sought not to learn and share resources but to possess and gain wealth for which they saw as free for the taking by decree or by force or someone else would. The irony of American History is it still fundamentally does this via Government and Corporate power.
Only a fool believes they can own land, water, forest, fish. Resources that are older than mankind and will exist longer than man. Stop paying taxes or registration on your homes and cars and see how long until your beloved Government takes it from you. We don't fault non Natives for wanting something better for themselves or their children but realize that your legacy was and is built on a false perspective of freedom.
You’re not a Nazi, and I’m not a union soldier. I think the point of history is to learn it, and then repeat the good things and do not repeat the bad.
Loooove these stories
How did the Indians get so much access to gun's
Kenneth Fox This is a reply to a question you posted on a video about the Blackfoot Indians and the Mt. Men. The Blackfoot Indians got their guns from the Hudson Bay Company which built trading posts in Canada during the 1700s and later. These trading Posts would trade guns and many other tools and cooking ware to the Blackfoot and other Indians for Beaver Pelts and other furs. There was also the Northwest Fur Co that built trading posts in Canada which did the same. The Lewis and Clark expedition clashed with the Blackfoot in 1803 while crossing Montana, the Blackfoot had guns at that time.
They see the Blackfoot are said to be related to the Mayan Indians .
no we're not. we are different ethnic groups. far different histories.
we are only very distantly related. like how bengali and a european are related because theyre both indoeuropean.
I don't think so I'm Blackfoot and I roll with the Mexicans , I'm taller than anyone
@@paulfox521 the Mayans are from Central America. Also what nation of the confederacy are you from?
Siksika
I'm in Los Angeles, people said I should stay here I'm too strange for most people
running out ov books/podcast/college lecture... how would one learn about precolonization? Specifically the Blackfoot confederation's history. VERY specifically the Paegan tribes history and culture before migrating with the Blackfoot in the midwest.
You would be Referring to the Dog team days with Blackfoot then I can do it
@@makoyiniito1897 HEY! you said keywords! how do we discuss? i have many stupid questions!
Ask
@@makoyiniito1897 email? discord?
@@nunyanunya4147 ask on here because gotta learn some people some lessons
Wrong beaver trap boys. Newhouse#4 double long springs. You can find later examples anywhere. Come-on, attention to detail sells your videos.
So funny how the Native lovers act like Europeans were the only ones who claimed they "owned" the land..
If anyone ever says that, it’s because they taught us that in school, they taught us that as a way to justify the colonizers stealing the land from native nations and peoples, not every native group was nomadic, many were either semi nomadic or had already established agriculture and farming techniques. Also don’t go calling people “native lovers” you sound like a racist idiot
@@agustinrico3304 The land was already stolen long before the first European ever reached it. If it was all right for indigenous people to violently take land from each other then why wasn't it okay for whites to do the same?
@@adampeters9861 the indigenous people before would fight wars like how the Europeans fought with each other. The colonizers came and promised peace, but would slaughter women and children, they’d make peace treaties with native peoples and than back track and betray them. That’s why we say they stole the land, because it’s not a comparable thing to how natives would fight for land against each other
@@agustinrico3304 So in other words, they were just as brutal but had a more effective strategy.
@@agustinrico3304 On the basis of his other post in this comment section, it is safe to conclude that this person is, indeed, a "racist idiot".
The description you gave the blackfoot/ blackfeet's as a warrior culture is a bit too much & absolutely misleading. A warrior culture means those who fought for: land, family, traditions & honour and went to war no matter of odds. A warrior did not hesitate to sacrifice what he loves & to defend what Waka gave him, because he knew Waka will receive his sacrifice. These BF were brave against small groups but never a modern military, of the time. I recommend, before you draw boundaries of territory you consider those brave Nations who defended their lands against imperialism. The territory you mentioned belongs to a much larger Nation (The Great Sioux Nation's) Nakota, Dakota, Lakota. We don't claim a large region of land and not be on it, we are on lands we claim then & now.
Is that Why the GREAT SIOUX NATION paid the Blackfoot to let them live on their territory (Morley Alberta)?
After SittingBull the Great war Chief tucked his Tail and hid on Blackfoot territory!
Don't Talk $hit if you don't know your $hit
Mountain men were pure capitalists, dwho helped destroy whole eco-systems which caused issues we're still dealing with the effects today. The eradication of bevers, wolves, and buffalo for example.
Yes but there children invented toilet paper and electricity
@@davidgrant2008 and toilet paper and electricity and capitlism has gone on to prove to be boons to the environment? Oh wait they've all but polluted and destoyed most ecosystems that make up the natural world as we knew it in the short span of 200 years...
And back then, I would do almost anything too, to survive and improve my lot.
@@williampoppell5189that attitude of not caring how one survives is why capitalism has basically killed the world in only 200 years. It's a shity system that causes people prioritize short term gains for long term sustainability, and why its all falling apart now that theres no one left to conintually kill for more resource rich lands. But if all you wanted to do was improve your lot back then you could just marry into a native nation and live far better than in any city, until capitlaist destoryed that way of life by stealing your land and killing all the bufflo damning up all the rivers before forcing your family into poverty and poor nurtrion on reservations...
@@darthchingaso3613 yep its so easy to be concerned about the so called environment today while your computer or smartphone is made out a petroleum product and metal stripped mined out of the Congo forgetting that in the World then the more important environmental nessity of having to put food in your mouth, to do that you have hunt ,kill, butcher and cook and not get killed yourself. Much more pressing maters back then like staying alive so your children's children children's can sit in classroom with air-conditioning and a free lunch program.
If only native Americans had real war tactics, they would still be alive.
... except ... um ... they ARE still alive ... !
@@hilariousname6826 sure.
@@mr.mcgurt2679 im literally blackfoot dumbass, i live on the reservation and have an official tribal ID. my whole family is full blooded, we are over 120,000 in our whole confederation still alive today. most of us live in montana, but i live on our canadian reserves.
We had more modern battle tactics at the time than you europoors who just stood there in lines to throw lead walls at eachother beacuse you guys were so inaccurate with your muskets.
we had guns and horses and utilized cavalry and rifle warfare, combined with bow and arrow, which was the favoured weapon in terms of speed, until repeating arms with brass self containing cartridges became mainstream in the 1860's-1870's. they would even have on foot tactics more closesly resembling modern tactics than european tactics at the time of standing lines. We would actually get on foot, seperate into units and storm a fort or town like a modern soldier would. The close range allowing for mostly rifles to be used and making for a more devestating effect.
you can look up a book called "Native Norrth American Shields, armor and fortifications. which details in great depth the development of wartactics. The chapter on the plains goes into massive depth on the devestating combination of horses and bows which became replaced with guns when they became available the far west where lived in 1700's.
maybe if europeans had better tactics it wouldnt have taken 300+ years to conquer us with industrialization and half the continent's resources vs us hunting fucking buffalo. you guys even let us keep most of our land in montana LMAOO
@@mr.mcgurt2679 booooo I'm a ghost booooo I dont exist. I'm in a definite existential crisis right now. What shall I do now? Dummy
@@AZTLANSOLDIER13 yes , apparently seems we don’t exist now lol
This is BS!
U got all offended 🤣👍
Why is there this white boy covering all the Native American Battles? You got this info from someones book who was on ONE OF THE SIDE OF THE STORY. LIKE ALL HISTORY. 👍🏽
😅😅😅 That's where having an actual written language helps. Where people who had daily journals and reports helps. It's difficult to discern drawn stick figures like the dog soldier's book.