Looks to be a very well laid out boat, lots of space both for owner and crew. The top sides are wonderful but then it is a Swan! I have had the opportunity to helm a 1997 80 foot Swan and it was terrific to sail so easy. We usually had 6 or 7 on board but we ran it very comfortably with 3 at anytime and safely. Great long distance cruiser and comfortable. Cheers and thanks.
What a beauty! I'd love to know more about the state of play with hybrid power systems. There seems to be various competing options and other systems in development. I guess my main concern is moving the potential weak point to the generator - you'd want something very reliable.
@@BRMCaptChaos If you have solar panels, regen and enough battery, you probably don't even need to turn the generator on unless you are motoring instead of sailing (which is nonsensical if you buy a sailing yacht). Even if you do need to use the generator, the efficiency of a generator powering an electric motor is similar to a diesel engine (gasoline would be even lower). Take into account the need for salt water intake for cooling the diesel engine and your maintenance costs shoot up immensely. It's not that complicated. From your other comment it seems more like you have an issue with green energy than anything else. Maybe consume less fossil fuel industry propaganda.
@@Rodrifuuu I’m not laughing with you. This yacht has no solar, it would need more than two 200w on the back. Oceanvolt regen would not be sufficient or viable for a vessel of this size. It needs a genset. Tell me how much carbon is saved by producing batteries for this application? Just try me.
Looks like someone did some sloppy caulking on the bow deck - 3 lines, one shorter than the other 2... that should be fixed before delivery to the customer. Unacceptable.
As mentioned below the boat had just launched and they were still finishing such details - which is commonplace before a yacht is then delivered to its owner
What’s unacceptable and frankly a bit boring is the armchair quarterback naturally assuming that a builder of Swan’s pedigree would hand out a boat with those details as is, and subsequently judging the brand’s work « unacceptable ». Thanks for the eagle eyed comments captain obvious.
I loved Sean's since the 1970's they're always been fast and beautiful. But the caulking on the deck looked terrible. In this video. I know it is the first one. If this is a press release, it should be at it best and complete
That has to be one of the smallest owners suite in the class. Also the completely unprotected helm stations are so off-putting. It's like it's designated to be a dock queen...
I was thinking similarly. Nice boat for casual cruising and nice days out with lots of people on deck, but for world cruising I think I'd go for something more like an Oyster.
Seriously ?????? 😳😳😳😳🙄🙄🙄🙄 You can’t compare the quality, performance, reputation and longevity of Swan with Oyster ! I would never trust my life to an Oyster built boat!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴😫😫😫😫😫. The dodgy history of Oyster since it’s inception and its manufacturing should make anyone go with Swan The only thing that I’ll give to you, is the Oysters interior design. Yes it’s nicer and laid out better in my opinion ( for comfort), but I’d buy the Swan and have Swan design the interior the wayI liked .
A lot of really bad background noise throughout this video - I’m surprised it’s as bad as it is considering the channel and expected levels of production
Sorry to hear that @ColinHarvey78 - perhaps you expect to much of our 'levels of production'! A lot of the time I am reporting on yachts for the magazine and film these tours if and when possible. In this case, first seatrials of the 88 from the yard with 16 other people aboard including media and engineers. The choice is whether to show you any of the boat with video in the time I have - or not to. But I cannot control all the background noise! And your other point about caulking I have already addressed - but that is completely normal for a new yacht to have finishing jobs like this being done prior to handover. Some poeple will find it interesting to see yachts not always in full glamour 'boat show' mode
Dangerous boom arrangement in tough weather that can kill people. No protection for the helmsman. So it's built for luxury nice weather sailing in the Med or with a professional crew and then not really a cruiser. The hybrid system is great as there is no diesel engine that can break down. So it's up to the generator functioning. Hopefully the entrance doors are water tight and don't open when the boat heels. The escape hatch for the master cabin is good so the owner cannot be trapped as in Italy.
Do you know how much energy it takes to electrolyse H2 and how difficult it is to store and handle? It's much more efficient to put the power straight into batteries. Also it's more complexity with all the high pressure storage tanks and the fuel cells not to mention the dangers of having high pressure H2 on a boat. H2 is also very expensive, it doesn't make any sense at all.
@@BRMCaptChaos Just because you can calculate how much H2 you’ll need to make doesn’t make it sustainable. If you can calculate that you can calculate that producing the H2 from water around the boat as the o/p suggests requires electricity which I’m assuming comes from solar/wind/in water generator. Electrolysers are about 60% efficiency, then the H2 has to be compressed using more energy so you’ve already lost about 50% of the electricity generated. Then the H2 goes into a fuel cell to make electricity again which, again, isn’t very efficient, then into a battery (you still need a battery albeit a smaller one) then to a motor. Long story short about 30% of the electricity you originally generated goes to power the motor. If batteries are used about 90% of the power generated goes to power the motor. If H2 is bought from the shore it is incredibly expensive and not easily obtainable, if H2 is burnt in an ICE then again the energy loses are likely worse than a fuel cell. It’s not rocket science but H2 is an idiotic idea to power any kind of transportation and I wouldn’t really like to be on a boat with tanks of a highly compressed, highly flammable gas that burns with an invisible flame.
My opinion on the people that suggest buying an Oyster. Seriously ?????? 😳😳😳😳🙄🙄🙄🙄 You can’t compare the quality, performance, reputation and longevity of Swan with Oyster ! I would never trust my life to an Oyster built boat!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴😫😫😫😫😫. The dodgy history of Oyster since its inception, tells you how the company’s run. It’s manufacturing practices alone, should make anyone go with Swan The only thing that I’ll give to you, is the Oysters interior design. Yes it’s nicer and laid out better in my opinion ( for comfort) where as a Swan, is built for sheer performance. I’d buy the Swan and have Swan design the interior the wayI liked . Comparing a Swan to an Oyster, is like comparing a Hyundai Genesis to a Mercedes AMG .
Phenomenally noisy for a quiet yacht. Greenwashed into hypocritical oblivion. Deck sweeping jib with guardrails makes my loose threads itch. It’s a Swan, I can’t believe they could build this.
Toby your camera has a directional mic, so if you're speaking while youre pointing away from yourself, filming how they raise the mainsail and there is a massive winch making lots of noise, we dont hear anything youre saying bro
@@yachtingworld actually, you would benefit immensely by giving a internship opportunity to a Gen Z film/journalism student who could help you catch up. Adapt or die and youve been unchanged (not for the better) for years now.
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Looks to be a very well laid out boat, lots of space both for owner and crew. The top sides are wonderful but then it is a Swan! I have had the opportunity to helm a 1997 80 foot Swan and it was terrific to sail so easy. We usually had 6 or 7 on board but we ran it very comfortably with 3 at anytime and safely. Great long distance cruiser and comfortable. Cheers and thanks.
@yachting world need to mention the Torqeedo Hybrid/regen system is using a Hundested controllable pitch propeller! Great video.
Sorry. The Torqeedo Hybrid/regen system is using a Hundested controllable pitch propeller! 👍
What a beauty! I'd love to know more about the state of play with hybrid power systems. There seems to be various competing options and other systems in development. I guess my main concern is moving the potential weak point to the generator - you'd want something very reliable.
This yacht was in the Isles of Scillies this summer, part of cruising the Westcountry.
Beautiful boat
What's with the unfinished caulk job forward on the deck near the bow locker?
The boat had just launched and they were still finishing such details
I should have read further down lol - I noticed the same thing.
We all know who this was built for. It puts food on the table for the boat building business, so I'm happy for that. ... next video!
Why does this seem small inside for an 88?
Wrobg very big
The want is strong
Electric motors + generator is the future. Efficiency, regen, much lower emissions, and fewer mechanical parts to service.
Insanity. Measure the emissions, all of them, and it falls on its backside.
@@BRMCaptChaos If you have solar panels, regen and enough battery, you probably don't even need to turn the generator on unless you are motoring instead of sailing (which is nonsensical if you buy a sailing yacht). Even if you do need to use the generator, the efficiency of a generator powering an electric motor is similar to a diesel engine (gasoline would be even lower). Take into account the need for salt water intake for cooling the diesel engine and your maintenance costs shoot up immensely. It's not that complicated.
From your other comment it seems more like you have an issue with green energy than anything else. Maybe consume less fossil fuel industry propaganda.
@@Rodrifuuu I’m not laughing with you.
This yacht has no solar, it would need more than two 200w on the back. Oceanvolt regen would not be sufficient or viable for a vessel of this size. It needs a genset.
Tell me how much carbon is saved by producing batteries for this application? Just try me.
@@BRMCaptChaos what do emissions have to do with it?
@@AdeboFunkyVoodoo you could have just said you didn’t read the original comment.
Fill your boots mate.
Looks like someone did some sloppy caulking on the bow deck - 3 lines, one shorter than the other 2... that should be fixed before delivery to the customer. Unacceptable.
I was just about to point that out at 0:32. Unacceptable is a euphemism...
I have no share in this but my understanding is they are out on sea trials.
As mentioned below the boat had just launched and they were still finishing such details - which is commonplace before a yacht is then delivered to its owner
Obviously not! It‘s just come out of the shed and not finished yet 😂😂😂
What’s unacceptable and frankly a bit boring is the armchair quarterback naturally assuming that a builder of Swan’s pedigree would hand out a boat with those details as is, and subsequently judging the brand’s work « unacceptable ».
Thanks for the eagle eyed comments captain obvious.
Would love to know Tony, if you could choose one boat or cat, what it would be….
How much money are we assuming I'd need to win to make this choice?!
It's Toby :)
Is it water tight? Has it been designed with the safety having priority over comfort & luxury?
Nice. And how much pocket money do i need to save for that Toby?
At least a year's worth!
@@yachtingworld 😄
I loved Sean's since the 1970's they're always been fast and beautiful. But the caulking on the deck looked terrible. In this video. I know it is the first one. If this is a press release, it should be at it best and complete
Not sure Nautor will appreciate the shot of their foredeck upto 1:12 with that bodged caulking on their new Swan 88…
Its sailing Toby but not as I know it.
Most privileged Humans on the Planet! Bless the Bow Boy!
That has to be one of the smallest owners suite in the class. Also the completely unprotected helm stations are so off-putting. It's like it's designated to be a dock queen...
10820 Rodger Land
I think the Oyster 885SII is a better design.
Agree with you
I was thinking similarly. Nice boat for casual cruising and nice days out with lots of people on deck, but for world cruising I think I'd go for something more like an Oyster.
Seriously ?????? 😳😳😳😳🙄🙄🙄🙄 You can’t compare the quality, performance, reputation and longevity
of Swan with Oyster ! I would never trust my life to an Oyster built boat!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴😫😫😫😫😫.
The dodgy history of Oyster since it’s inception and its manufacturing should make anyone go with Swan
The only thing that I’ll give to you, is the Oysters interior design. Yes it’s nicer and laid out better in my opinion (
for comfort), but I’d buy the Swan and have Swan design the interior the wayI liked .
@@jamiemorgan4146 Maybe they are thinking about Oysters like S/Y POLINA STAR III🤔😉
Yes prefer the Oyster
Mate
Even venerable cruising royalty such as Nautor Swan isn't above the ludicrous criticisms of TH-cam's salty old sea dogs.
Talking about silence, I think this was the noisiest test you ever did
A lot of really bad background noise throughout this video - I’m surprised it’s as bad as it is considering the channel and expected levels of production
Sorry to hear that @ColinHarvey78 - perhaps you expect to much of our 'levels of production'! A lot of the time I am reporting on yachts for the magazine and film these tours if and when possible. In this case, first seatrials of the 88 from the yard with 16 other people aboard including media and engineers. The choice is whether to show you any of the boat with video in the time I have - or not to. But I cannot control all the background noise!
And your other point about caulking I have already addressed - but that is completely normal for a new yacht to have finishing jobs like this being done prior to handover. Some poeple will find it interesting to see yachts not always in full glamour 'boat show' mode
Dangerous boom arrangement in tough weather that can kill people. No protection for the helmsman. So it's built for luxury nice weather sailing in the Med or with a professional crew and then not really a cruiser. The hybrid system is great as there is no diesel engine that can break down. So it's up to the generator functioning. Hopefully the entrance doors are water tight and don't open when the boat heels. The escape hatch for the master cabin is good so the owner cannot be trapped as in Italy.
Its an 88 foot yacht! Of course you need competent people onboard to sail it.
Wrobg
Boats are on water, water is H2o. Please, people, use your brains. Hydrogen is the future.
Do you know how much energy it takes to electrolyse H2 and how difficult it is to store and handle? It's much more efficient to put the power straight into batteries. Also it's more complexity with all the high pressure storage tanks and the fuel cells not to mention the dangers of having high pressure H2 on a boat. H2 is also very expensive, it doesn't make any sense at all.
Yes, I can calculate the amounts needed for H2.
It’s not rocket science, it is sustainable. Batteries are not the way forward.
@@BRMCaptChaos Just because you can calculate how much H2 you’ll need to make doesn’t make it sustainable. If you can calculate that you can calculate that producing the H2 from water around the boat as the o/p suggests requires electricity which I’m assuming comes from solar/wind/in water generator. Electrolysers are about 60% efficiency, then the H2 has to be compressed using more energy so you’ve already lost about 50% of the electricity generated. Then the H2 goes into a fuel cell to make electricity again which, again, isn’t very efficient, then into a battery (you still need a battery albeit a smaller one) then to a motor. Long story short about 30% of the electricity you originally generated goes to power the motor. If batteries are used about 90% of the power generated goes to power the motor. If H2 is bought from the shore it is incredibly expensive and not easily obtainable, if H2 is burnt in an ICE then again the energy loses are likely worse than a fuel cell. It’s not rocket science but H2 is an idiotic idea to power any kind of transportation and I wouldn’t really like to be on a boat with tanks of a highly compressed, highly flammable gas that burns with an invisible flame.
My opinion on the people that suggest buying an Oyster.
Seriously ?????? 😳😳😳😳🙄🙄🙄🙄 You can’t compare the quality, performance, reputation and longevity
of Swan with Oyster ! I would never trust my life to an Oyster built boat!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴😫😫😫😫😫.
The dodgy history of Oyster since its inception, tells you how the company’s run.
It’s manufacturing practices alone, should make anyone go with Swan
The only thing that I’ll give to you, is the Oysters interior design. Yes it’s nicer and laid out better in my opinion (
for comfort) where as a Swan, is built for sheer performance.
I’d buy the Swan and have Swan design the interior the wayI liked .
Comparing a Swan to an Oyster, is like comparing a Hyundai Genesis to a Mercedes AMG .
Phenomenally noisy for a quiet yacht.
Greenwashed into hypocritical oblivion.
Deck sweeping jib with guardrails makes my loose threads itch.
It’s a Swan, I can’t believe they could build this.
Toby your camera has a directional mic, so if you're speaking while youre pointing away from yourself, filming how they raise the mainsail and there is a massive winch making lots of noise, we dont hear anything youre saying bro
Actually I use a lapel mic - but there was A LOT of noise going on that day with so many aboard
@@yachtingworld actually, you would benefit immensely by giving a internship opportunity to a Gen Z film/journalism student who could help you catch up. Adapt or die and youve been unchanged (not for the better) for years now.