Dwight 3 time DPOY, multiple rebounding titles, first team all NBA, never lost to Lebron in a playoff series and led his team to the Finals in 09. Don't sleep on his Orlando days.
3x DPOY Led a team to the finals as the only star 8x All-NBA player was a top 5 player for at least 6 years Dwight is really AT WORST the 60th best player ever.
Dwight over James Harden and he made the all 75. Right now my opinion he is too 75! Period check the resume was Dominant for like 5 to 6 straight years! Took Orlando to the Finals at least once. Before back issues was top in NJ rebounds and blocks and fg%. Facts
@@drunkendesperado2128 Dwight carried a team to the finals. played a more important position. Was the best player at his position at one point. Was the best defensive player in the league for a good while. Safe to say he is
5 nba all 1st teams (all consecutive) 3x nba defensive player of the year (all consecutive) 12th all time in rebounds (most among active players) 15th all time in blocks (most among active players) 7th best field goal percentage all time 8 time all star and nba champion
This man just said MUTUMBO should’ve made the list and then scoffed at the notion that Dwight Howard should’ve made the list? Y’all do NOT know ball. Period
STOP TALKING SPORTS JOE PLZZZZZ!!!!!! U said Dwight team didn’t do nothing when he was young he broke records and he went to finals against Kobe with Magic …. Chilllll bro … check the atats
Yall sound like casuals. Joe said that Dwight never took the Magic anywhere when in reality he took them to the finals with 0 all-star teammates. Dwight is definitely Top-75
@@kyledoyle2096 I feel you but I got a bigger problem with Klay Thompson not making this list is top five shooter of all time plus defensive wizard as well
@@TailoredwrightI strongly disagree he should have made the list twice knocc it the fucc off bro you telling me those old guards from the 50’s is better than klay Thompson
Y’all wrong for dissing Dwight like this lol. He definitely deserves to be on there over Dame lillard, you friends with dame so I get why you’re biased
Bro how y’all gonna disrespect Dwight. He did more than AD, Dame, Kyrie, and Klay as an individual. He took the Magic to the Finals as the best player AD, Dame, Kyrie haven’t don’t that check his resume words to moms
They Tripping w that Dwight Howard take his prime years was better than anybody in the game playing right now beside Lebrun and Giannis bro was arguably the best player in the league next to Lebron. Led the magic to the finals and all. Only reason his career took a down turn is because he fucked his back up and Kobe wasn’t tryna hear that shit , which was fucked up name a 7 footer who could play basketball let alone center w a fucked up back.
@@damhow you honestly think Clay can carry a team as the #1 option to the finals? Stop it. Dwight actually did it. He was the best player on that Magic team by far.
@@infiniteloop71 that doesn't negate the fact he was the number one option on the team, by far the best player, and took that team to a NBA finals. Everything I said was facts.
@@gifi11 We haven't seen Klay anywhere else. He is a great player and I would say maybe he could if its a well built team around him before I would say no. I never said Dwight wasn't the best player on that magic team I said it was very well built team around his strengths and weaknesses. They also got a little fortunate because the best team in the east lost their best player. Again I have been a magic fan for years and was really watching those games, not googling stats like half of yall.
@@Lkb2411 He made 8 consecutive All NBA teams. Finished in the top 5 for MVP 6 times. Has 5, 1st team All NBA tied with Charles Barkley, Dr. J, Jason Kidd, and The Ice Man George Gervin. Only 20 players in the history of the NBA has made more 1st team All NBA. Three time defensive player of the year, back to back to back. Led the league in rebounds 6 times and in blocks twice. Took a team where he was to only Allstar to the finals. This is the dumbest thing ever. He's the only player with more the two 1st team All NBA teams that's not on this list and he has 5.
The same thing didn’t happen with harden. He balled out in Houston but got no credit for it. People gloss over his first 2 years there before the injuries and harden being a dickhead took him out. He balled out in that Portland series that they only lost because of dames shot. And he was one of the biggest reasons they made that run over Dallas and LA the next year. And they also made a conference finals while he was there as well. He still put up his career averaged while he was in Houston too.
@@TheIcemanthomas facts we woulda got swept against Portland without Dwight. Lamarcus Aldridge was killin us. And when Dwight went to the Lakers he was playing hurt…
Put some respect on Tmac name. Idgaf Damian Lillard or klay Thompson is seeing him. Dude was a beast competing with kobe for scoring titles every year. This should be the argument
Joe the reason y’all think he a joke because y’all media and Dwight is a clown to the media and easy target but y’all trippin u missing the fact he took a team to the finals (Orlando)a team wit the next best player being jameer Nelson or turkolu and won a chip(Lakers), and he had 8-9 years as the best center in the league 8x all star 8x all nba 8x all defense, 3 dpoy and lead the league in rebounding 5x. He is 11th in rebounding in NBA history over Shaq, Rodman, Olajuwon, Mutombo. Top 75 his resume has a case
Shout out to Joe's pops for knowing the history of these NBA players who played way before our time. Would be a dope episode for him to come on and talk basketball.
Kyrie Irving was on the ONLY team down 3-1 in the Finals and OVERCAME it! That championship means a lot and is worth a lot. Not every championship is worth the same.
@@gradydean1216 why dudes like you be dancing around what’s actually being said? But yes, he had 1 title after 2016… but his greatest accomplishment to the masses and truthfully even LBj himself has to be his only ring with Cleveland. “Cleveland this is for you” .. the narratives back it down. There is more lore to this Finals and it’s winner compared to many of its others. It’s forever cemented as a Top 10 Finals (and it’s definitely not 10th) … and I’m definitely being generous. That by itself causes me to believe Kyrie and Bron should’ve been on the top 75.
Dwight beat prime Bron in a series to get to the finals against Kobes Lakers where The king Lebron 🤴🏿 average 38 points 9 assist 9 rebounds. But still wasn't enough to get past Dwight and magic. Howard basically took away a Kobe vs Bron finals 😳 put him in top 75 fam!!!
Some of y'all in the comments putting extras on Dwight's prime years. He did most of his accomplishments when the center position was in a lull and also he did it in the East which was notoriously weak at the time. I give him props for beating Lebron to go to the finals that one year but other than that it's empty stats.
It's amazing to me that all this talk going on out here about Klay, Dwight, and Kyrie getn snubbed; but don't hear nuthin about a dude that was damn near unguardable, and was giving teams nightmares about how to even contain him; a guy named Tracy McGrady. Prime T-Mac would destroy a lotta dudes on that list of 75.
Dwight is an 8 time all star. 5 times FIRST team all NBA. THREE time defensive player of the year. Finished top 5 in MVP voting a bunch of times. They literally have people on this list who only made 2 all star teams lol
Dwight Howard Magic took out Lebron James Cavs to play in the Finals against Kobe Lakers in 2010 but lost. 1 NBA Champ, 8x NBA All-Star, 5x First Team, 3x Defensive player of the Year, 4x Defensive First Team, 5x Rebounding Leader, 2x Block Leader, 2x Dunk Champ He deserves to be in the NBA 75 Anniversary.
Guys who clearly need to be replaced: Out: Bill Sharman, all 3 dave's, Bill Walton and Lillard In: Dantley,English,Parker,Howard and Irving Wtf is this shit
Okay don’t let these guys talk basketball…. Some of you in the back may not under dig but allow me to reintroduce this man Dwight Howard •Dwight didn’t take Orlando nowhere?? How about he took Orlando to face Kobe in the finals •8X all star 8X All NBA 5X all defense • 3X DPOY •5X reb leader 2X block leader •2X Gold medalists NBA champion Shoot 56% and 56% and average 2 blocks for his career. He was the best big man in basketball at least 5 years straight yes he’s a goofball and hasn’t been the best locker room guy but put some actual respect on this man’s name lort Geezuz great podding btw keep it going 😂😂
Y'all could've did a lil research on Dwight before dissing him. Maybe top 200?? He was top 3 in mvp voting for like 5 yrs. Having a longer career really hurt his image.
those players player's of yesteryear just didn't have the modernisation of the Sport, that we have on deck today. That's for all us 20 goin on 30yr olds though cos at the end of the day, we weren't there. but i know they were probably kak good
Dwight 3 time DPOY, multiple rebounding titles, first team all NBA, never lost to Lebron in a playoff series and led his team to the Finals in 09. Don't sleep on his Orlando days.
Educate these casuals!💪🏾
At one time Dwight was the best big man the league and a strong MVP candidate
According to Joe Orlando went nowhere with him
It’s a shame that Dwight tricked you like this
I do reaction videos while high asff on my TH-cam channel 😅.
3x DPOY
Led a team to the finals as the only star
8x All-NBA player
was a top 5 player for at least 6 years
Dwight is really AT WORST the 60th best player ever.
Arguably top 50
@@jamal4717 most definitely
Facts
im with you
Facts! I guess had he retired 2013 ish he’s be in. This just shows he’s gonna he snubbed on HOF
Y’all opinions on Dwight Howard let’s me know. Y’all definitely don’t watch basketball.
Facts!!
Joe lost all relevance when he said Dwight isn’t top 150
What he say wrong?
@@jeffmorphis5667 give me one reason why dame > Dwight
Dwight over James Harden and he made the all 75. Right now my opinion he is too 75! Period check the resume was Dominant for like 5 to 6 straight years! Took Orlando to the Finals at least once. Before back issues was top in NJ rebounds and blocks and fg%. Facts
Dwight took Orlando to the finals. Tf he talking about.
💯💯💯
is Dwight better than klay?
@@drunkendesperado2128 Dwight carried a team to the finals. played a more important position. Was the best player at his position at one point. Was the best defensive player in the league for a good while. Safe to say he is
Dwight Howard is definitely dunking on Ish nephew after this. And it’s all Joe’s and Ice fault
😆🤣😂
🤣🤣🤣
Yea,he need to stop talking nba
Funny thing is, sharife is his nephew, so Taya is his niece... who dated Dwight 😂
@@stylesfreeman81 that’s why he mad fr
5 nba all 1st teams (all consecutive)
3x nba defensive player of the year (all consecutive)
12th all time in rebounds (most among active players)
15th all time in blocks (most among active players)
7th best field goal percentage all time
8 time all star and nba champion
Bro I was just about to say the same thing!
Pops a trip😂😂😂 I love when they call him in. LOL
This man just said MUTUMBO should’ve made the list and then scoffed at the notion that Dwight Howard should’ve made the list? Y’all do NOT know ball. Period
They Don’t know ball at all lol
You know who else gets forgotten the shuffle surgery wound his career Alonzo mourning
STOP TALKING SPORTS JOE PLZZZZZ!!!!!! U said Dwight team didn’t do nothing when he was young he broke records and he went to finals against Kobe with Magic …. Chilllll bro … check the atats
Yall sound like casuals. Joe said that Dwight never took the Magic anywhere when in reality he took them to the finals with 0 all-star teammates. Dwight is definitely Top-75
FACTS casual basketball watchers dwight 3x defensive player of the yr. And the most dominant player. For a good 5 yrs
Facts Bro’
@@kyledoyle2096 I feel you but I got a bigger problem with Klay Thompson not making this list is top five shooter of all time plus defensive wizard as well
@@bigtucc1979 Klay don’t deserve it he’s a second or :rd option on the warriors . No all nba selections etc . No
@@TailoredwrightI strongly disagree he should have made the list twice knocc it the fucc off bro you telling me those old guards from the 50’s is better than klay Thompson
Y’all wrong for dissing Dwight like this lol. He definitely deserves to be on there over Dame lillard, you friends with dame so I get why you’re biased
Na Joe made a point all those times he went to other teams and stunk it up changed his legacy
@@worldnewz6963 his career still better than dame's
@@Max_Chainz by miles
@@worldnewz6963 Same could be said about Westbrook, but Dwight at the end of the day got a ring.
@@donmacmilly as a role player
Yall buggin. Dwight got Orlando to the finals, multiple DPOYs, lead the league in rebounds, and blocks multiple times.
Exactly
They are talking reactionary... tripping.
“I can’t say what I wanna say”
Says it anyway 😂😂😂😂
adrian dantley deserved to make the list...he was legit the better version of melo
@@razkable think Melo was a better player
This why I miss Mal being next to Joe, cuz Mal WOULD NEVER allow Joe to diss Dwight's name like this EVER SMFH
Mal said Russell Westbrook is the best player
Mal has some of the WORST takes when it comes to basketball.
Mal just backs the “Favorites” and they still lose 😂
Bro how y’all gonna disrespect Dwight. He did more than AD, Dame, Kyrie, and Klay as an individual. He took the Magic to the Finals as the best player AD, Dame, Kyrie haven’t don’t that check his resume words to moms
They Tripping w that Dwight Howard take his prime years was better than anybody in the game playing right now beside Lebrun and Giannis bro was arguably the best player in the league next to Lebron. Led the magic to the finals and all. Only reason his career took a down turn is because he fucked his back up and Kobe wasn’t tryna hear that shit , which was fucked up name a 7 footer who could play basketball let alone center w a fucked up back.
Yeah they sleeping on him big time
He better than like 30+ players in the list
he not better than KD
@@brashadcarr680 u right
Worst sports take ever on Dwight. Top 15 in blocks and rebounds. 3 DPOY. His resume is top 75.
Dwight was the only snub. Ad being selected over him is literal comedy, Melo too.
Naw Melo should definitely be on there. Them Denver years he took them to the playoffs right out the draft
@@malikharris27 I’m not saying he shouldn’t be on it at all, he just shouldn’t be there before Dwight
😂 Pop is legendary on these calls
Gotta love pops straight forward commentary lol no sugarcoating or beating around the bush🤣
If you think Dwight Howard doesn’t deserve to be on this list like this podcast you might be delusional he’s easily top 60 probably 50
I don’t know about 50 but definitely should be on the list
Clay would never EVER EVER carry a team to the finals like Dwight did stoppp.
Carry? That nigga woulda Klay to get to the finals. U realize the Magic just surrounded Dwight with shooters right?
Why not? And that team was actually built around him extremely well. Yall hyping him up now. This coming from an actual magic fan.
@@damhow you honestly think Clay can carry a team as the #1 option to the finals? Stop it. Dwight actually did it. He was the best player on that Magic team by far.
@@infiniteloop71 that doesn't negate the fact he was the number one option on the team, by far the best player, and took that team to a NBA finals. Everything I said was facts.
@@gifi11 We haven't seen Klay anywhere else. He is a great player and I would say maybe he could if its a well built team around him before I would say no. I never said Dwight wasn't the best player on that magic team I said it was very well built team around his strengths and weaknesses. They also got a little fortunate because the best team in the east lost their best player. Again I have been a magic fan for years and was really watching those games, not googling stats like half of yall.
Joe Pops letting that clip GO!!!!!
Nigga wasn’t letting NO white players slide😂😂😂
All of em just loud and wrong lol Dwight resume speaks for itself.
Appreciate the Toronto talk towards the end, I love my city!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dwight is a no brainer! He was the most dominant center for close to a decade.
Close to a decade is not accurate… 4-5 years, at most
@@Lkb2411 He made 8 consecutive All NBA teams. Finished in the top 5 for MVP 6 times. Has 5, 1st team All NBA tied with Charles Barkley, Dr. J, Jason Kidd, and The Ice Man George Gervin. Only 20 players in the history of the NBA has made more 1st team All NBA. Three time defensive player of the year, back to back to back. Led the league in rebounds 6 times and in blocks twice. Took a team where he was to only Allstar to the finals. This is the dumbest thing ever. He's the only player with more the two 1st team All NBA teams that's not on this list and he has 5.
Dwight Howard was robbed. He had a better career than Bill Walton.
I'm shocked they didnt mention TMAC once in this segment
Facts
Bro the fact Dwight is still in the league speaks volumes like fr
Joe need to set his pop’s up w/ his own lil sports take pod! 🤣🤣🤣 I’d tune in everyday G
Dwight deserved it but him & Kobe not working out probably hurt him with the voters especially after the same thing happened with Harden…
The same thing didn’t happen with harden. He balled out in Houston but got no credit for it. People gloss over his first 2 years there before the injuries and harden being a dickhead took him out. He balled out in that Portland series that they only lost because of dames shot. And he was one of the biggest reasons they made that run over Dallas and LA the next year. And they also made a conference finals while he was there as well. He still put up his career averaged while he was in Houston too.
@@TheIcemanthomas facts we woulda got swept against Portland without Dwight. Lamarcus Aldridge was killin us. And when Dwight went to the Lakers he was playing hurt…
Good call Joe....Ray Allen and Grant Hill were BEASTS. So was Penny
Joe you sleep...Dwight Howard was a 3x DPOY, multiple rebound champ, took a team to the finals, and NBA First Team multiple times...
Put some respect on Tmac name. Idgaf Damian Lillard or klay Thompson is seeing him. Dude was a beast competing with kobe for scoring titles every year. This should be the argument
“Dwight Howard’s team went nowhere” .. he literally took a team w no other all stars and probably no top 50 players to the championship
After watching this I’m convinced y’all didn’t watch a lick of basketball. Dwight’s resume is better than Bernard king. Go pull them up.
Right
Joe the reason y’all think he a joke because y’all media and Dwight is a clown to the media and easy target but y’all trippin u missing the fact he took a team to the finals (Orlando)a team wit the next best player being jameer Nelson or turkolu and won a chip(Lakers), and he had 8-9 years as the best center in the league 8x all star 8x all nba 8x all defense, 3 dpoy and lead the league in rebounding 5x. He is 11th in rebounding in NBA history over Shaq, Rodman, Olajuwon, Mutombo. Top 75 his resume has a case
Shout out to Joe's pops for knowing the history of these NBA players who played way before our time. Would be a dope episode for him to come on and talk basketball.
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The real snub is Tracy “T Mac” Mcgrady!!! He should be there 💯💯
Came to the comments after the Dwight slander lmao y'all didn't disappoint
great content lmao pops is hilarious
This may the funniest segment ever! Joe you are him!!
See where joe get it from 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is why this is not a sports talk show - Dwight is definitely a Top 75 easily - the 1st 8mins with pops was hilarious Though.
Pops need to be a guest sometimes hahahaha
Kyrie Irving was on the ONLY team down 3-1 in the Finals and OVERCAME it! That championship means a lot and is worth a lot. Not every championship is worth the same.
@breadstickzzzzzzz did I ever this was not LeBron’s team or that it was Kylries team?
Kyrie can't win on his own bron still would have tittles without him
@@gradydean1216 why dudes like you be dancing around what’s actually being said? But yes, he had 1 title after 2016… but his greatest accomplishment to the masses and truthfully even LBj himself has to be his only ring with Cleveland. “Cleveland this is for you” .. the narratives back it down. There is more lore to this Finals and it’s winner compared to many of its others. It’s forever cemented as a Top 10 Finals (and it’s definitely not 10th) … and I’m definitely being generous. That by itself causes me to believe Kyrie and Bron should’ve been on the top 75.
We need pops as a special guest for the pod “worst takes” he funny af
Dwight Howard, Klay Thompson and Tony Parker all got snubbed hard
Joe pops kept it real lol
8:32 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 huh? NBA Finals, 2x Conference Finals, 6x playoff appearances in Orlando. How did the team go nowhere?
Kyrie Irving originally made the list but the NBA took him off because did the vaccine shit .
Dwight beat prime Bron in a series to get to the finals against Kobes Lakers where The king Lebron 🤴🏿 average 38 points 9 assist 9 rebounds. But still wasn't enough to get past Dwight and magic. Howard basically took away a Kobe vs Bron finals 😳 put him in top 75 fam!!!
Dwight not being on this list is the most disrespectful thing next to Bernard king
Y’all forgot how dominant he was in Orlando.
When was the last time Dwight Howard been even in conversation as a top 15 player in the league….
Never
@@Lkb2411 NEVER!?
Senior Budden and Vince Staples need to take turns calling in to the podcast once a week fr fukn hilarious
This was a good talk lol. By the way klay thompson’s 37 in a quarter record alone makes him top 50 ever. Blessings tho
Woah the Dwight disrespect is crazy
We need more of joe Pops on nba takes
Some of y'all in the comments putting extras on Dwight's prime years. He did most of his accomplishments when the center position was in a lull and also he did it in the East which was notoriously weak at the time. I give him props for beating Lebron to go to the finals that one year but other than that it's empty stats.
Right.. it was a fluke year. 1finals, lost😴
The disrespect to Dwight Howard is insane!
It's amazing to me that all this talk going on out here about Klay, Dwight, and Kyrie getn snubbed; but don't hear nuthin about a dude that was damn near unguardable, and was giving teams nightmares about how to even contain him; a guy named Tracy McGrady. Prime T-Mac would destroy a lotta dudes on that list of 75.
One of the worst basketball discussions in history.
Wow dad is right Bernard King needs to be on this list. This whole list is shit until he’s on
Little more respect on Dwight in Orlando!!! Dwight after Orlando I agree with
He was really still balling when he got to the rockets
I see how tough it is having to talk about any subject on a pod because they forsure should have passed on this one lol
Klay, Dwight,Kyrie,Tmac and Vince Carter
Dwight Howard's accolades alone is better then most of the people on it
People forget how good Dwight was in Orlando, I think the disrespect is harsh HOWEVER…..I agree he’s not a top 75 player all time
Dwight is an 8 time all star. 5 times FIRST team all NBA. THREE time defensive player of the year. Finished top 5 in MVP voting a bunch of times. They literally have people on this list who only made 2 all star teams lol
Definitely not top 75 ALL TIME
Joe's Daddy is the bomb. LOL
Dwight Howard Magic took out Lebron James Cavs to play in the Finals against Kobe Lakers in 2010 but lost.
1 NBA Champ, 8x NBA All-Star, 5x First Team, 3x Defensive player of the Year, 4x Defensive First Team, 5x Rebounding Leader, 2x Block Leader, 2x Dunk Champ
He deserves to be in the NBA 75 Anniversary.
Guys who clearly need to be replaced:
Out: Bill Sharman, all 3 dave's, Bill Walton and Lillard
In: Dantley,English,Parker,Howard and Irving
Wtf is this shit
Kinda disappointed Joe you haven't made a case for Vince & penny
Y’all not sports fans fr if you’re not outraged by Dwight
After pops, I now understand JB! 😀
Okay don’t let these guys talk basketball….
Some of you in the back may not under dig but allow me to reintroduce this man Dwight Howard
•Dwight didn’t take Orlando nowhere?? How about he took Orlando to face Kobe in the finals
•8X all star 8X All NBA 5X all defense
• 3X DPOY
•5X reb leader 2X block leader
•2X Gold medalists
NBA champion
Shoot 56% and 56% and average 2 blocks for his career. He was the best big man in basketball at least 5 years straight yes he’s a goofball and hasn’t been the best locker room guy but put some actual respect on this man’s name lort Geezuz great podding btw keep it going 😂😂
Need Joe dad for a segment once a month
Dwight Howard, Klamath Thompson, Kyrie Irving, & Tracy McGrady should’ve made it
Top 2 Basketball Players of All Time:
1. Bill Russell
2. Micheal Jordan
Y'all could've did a lil research on Dwight before dissing him. Maybe top 200?? He was top 3 in mvp voting for like 5 yrs. Having a longer career really hurt his image.
those players player's of yesteryear just didn't have the modernisation of the Sport, that we have on deck today. That's for all us 20 goin on 30yr olds though cos at the end of the day, we weren't there.
but i know they were probably kak good
Howard should be on the list I have a question why isn't anyone speaking about Derrick Rose
Parks is so flimsical
He said dwight has the top 75 best shoulders
Tmac ,vince carter , bernard king.
Penny hardaway and grant hill top 75
Imagine saying the NUMBER 1 Center In the league for a 5 year stretch undoubtedly was not a snub 😂😂😂
I'll put Wilt Chamberlain over Dr. J, Lebron, Karl Malone, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, and Allen Iverson
The Dwight take was Mad harsh . Y’all can have your opinions without discrediting the Brother on Air . Sheesh
I know dhoward has personality issue but how can that remove d12 pas accomplishment?
Klay scored 37 in a quarter that's crazy
You know somebody knows they're all about basketball when they say Kyrie Irving should be top 75 but not Dwight Howard I'm sleep
Vince Carter should be on that list.
BRING YOUR DAD ON TO THE POD AS A GUEST
I’ll take Dwight Howard prime over Klay Thompson prime ANY day of the week
Y’all lost y’all basketball card with the Dwight take 😂😂 he had a dominant decade. Y’all wildn
Dwight is 5 time all defense and has 8 all NBA selections
Happy Moses Malone🙏 made it. Sad Bernard King didn't. REAL player's who don't get there flowers. AD shouldn't have made, did nothing at N.O💯
They opinion on Dwight shows they don’t really follow basketball like they think they do
They should have made a new 50 list...you can't put KD and and Steph wit out Klay and you can't have LeBron without Kyrie