How to FIX a REALLY BAD Ceiling Fan Installation
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- Hey Gang! Today we're doing another electrical video! We thought we'd be done with the Rough Electric stage by now, but someone left a surprise for us under these decorative medallions! This gives us an opportunity to make it right!
From poor drywall cutting to proper electrical support, we cover it all in this video. And when you've got that ceiling fan ready to hang, be sure to check out our installation video on those below, you'll love it. Thanks for watching Gang and we'll see ya in the next one!
Super Detailed Ceiling Fan Installation Video CLICK HERE
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The only TH-camr who says "Let's get right into it." And then doesn't have a long intro right after defeating the whole point of the statement. I applaud you.
Not true watch smoking and grilling with ab
10 min intro's for 3 min of content is far too common.
Andrew Camarata is the same way, straight to the point... just in an ADHD way 🤣
@@ajhainstock3997 Let's be honest, it's 2021, almost 2022. Who doesn't have ADD or ADHD by now?
@@spritefan10 🤣🤣 back in my times it was rare(ish) to be diagnosed with it, not Dr's sre handing out prescriptions like candy for it. It's the new "cool" thing to have for this current generation 🤣 I was diagnosed 25 years ago with it, and my Dr refused to prescribed and medication for it, now it seems every corner you turn someone "has" ADHD.
So many good things going on…Father and Son working together;
clear directions with simple reasons why;
great source for anyone interested in the trades.
Keep the good stuff coming.
I enjoy how you take the task at hand serious enough to want to do it right and still have room for some humor as well. Thank you for making instructional yet entertaining videos. Keep up the great work.
Great explanations always using the proper terms. They're as important as the work in some ways.
Yup thx Tom 👍👊
It is a Studpack Saturday. It will be a good day now that you have released a video!! Keep up the good work!!
Thx Miles 👊👍
I would say this is the best home improvement channel in the entire world.
I haven't seen all the others, so I can't say that. But it's the best I know.
"the handyman" youtube channel claims that title every video!
@@jasonhoch33 that's the joke
"Not that I've ever done that..." Experience is the best teacher!
Your question intonation reminds me of the band camp girl in the movie Amercan Pie.
"And one time, at Band camp...I smashed that like button!"
Another thought of how to find the center of the room, if laser levels can be used on the ceiling:
Line up the laser from one corner to the other on a diagonal, make a line. Repeat the same for the other 2 corners of the room, and + marks the spot!
or learn to divide by 2.
@@kenbrown2808 The guys addressed this exact problem regarding dividing in the imperial system and fractions of an inch.
@@elliotsimpson3591 the problem of learning how to divide by two? it's not hard. I learned it in fourth grade. or, for that matter, you can stand roughly in the middle, and put a piece of blue tape on the ceiling, and do the same process he did and skip the laser AND the large number division. just measure a matching distance from each side, and then measure how far your marks are from each other and divide THAT by two.
Presumption of room being square is an issue here. Too often rooms simply are not even a parallelogram.
@@michaelrobinson9643 well, some styles of house don't even pretend to have square rooms, and then there is also the consideration that sometimes, centering the light looks worse than aligning it with a feature. but with a quality tape measure, and rudimentary math skills, finding center is pretty easy.
Y’all are making the best remodeling content on TH-cam so I gotta make a request. MORE VIDEOS. And what happened to the podcast?
Thanks a lot Ben 💪🏼 we make em as fast as we can!
The podcast is something we would love to do and we’re 100% going to continue it. But it needs to be a good experience for the listeners/viewers and we don’t have the equipment for that just yet.
Studpack...Looking forward to when you get the right equipment for the podcast!!
I own and operate a small remodeling company and have been watching all of your videos. I've definitely learned afew tricks from you. You do great work I love that your passing your knowledge on to the next generation. Keep it up!
Sometimes I watch these videos more to see how past contractors screwed up or their shoddy workmanship. Not putting the fan wires in a box is terrible! Luckily, no fire.
Usually the home owner... they can be real idiots..neighbor vents gas range and dryer into her attic..Used a downspout to vent the gas dryer.. To the attic..
That couldn’t have been a contract worker. If it was that dude needs his license revoked
Can you link me to a video that shows the corner LED’s please? I briefly looked but didn’t find one… either that or I looked right over it. Thanks!
Even though you guys have hit the bigtime, you're still keepin' it real. Don't change a thing.
I cut the tips off of all old wires even if they are already short. My boss doesn't, but guess whose wire tips broke off? Lol
Thoroughly enjoyed / appreciated this presentation, the act with clear and precise explanation, I could not ask for better.
Hey guys!! Your timing is perfect. I happen to be doing some rennos to my new place so this is super helpful. Can you please link me to that hole cutter w/ dust shield?
If you had access to the attic why would you remove the 4x4 from underneath??? Would have been easier to remove from the attic. Not to mention you only would need a small patch, and would not need to poke holes to find the joist. Work smarter not harder
A couple of them were in tight spots. Spend less time in the attic and do a little bigger patch 👍
Josh Brolin takes time off his busy filming schedule to do some DIY home improvement tutorials. God bless that man.
Do you have a video of the placement of the LED lights you say you are putting around the perimeter?
It’s so darn fun watching you guys.
Your Like button has Mr.Ballen vibes
Paul, Jordan, y'all are awesome. I also love how the whole family is involved. Great work ethic, great content. 👍
Thx 👊👍
Always test your wires at the fixture. I once assumed all were on the same circuit but found the previous owner had run two separate circuits to the fan/light to control them individualy.
My first thought with existing framing there was to install a pancake box screwed into that 4x4 rather than doing a big drywall patch, but what you did makes sense if you knew you have to move it anyway.
True but a pancake isn’t rated to be a junction with multiple cables. It’s only rated to have one cable (one romex wire) that equals 6 cubic inches of wire fill
@@juliangarrett6373 Bingo. Pancakes are often really tiny and box fill won't allow more than one 14 gauge romex inside. Useless if you want a 3 wire going in with fan kit wiring. I hate cramped boxes.
Love watching a good tradesman at work. We work the same way, no cutting corners, a problem found is a problem fixed 👍🏼
Battery reciprocating saws never cut it for me. Kill 5ah batteries in no time without getting much done.
If you’d have used some Wago 221’s it would have been the 🇺🇸 equivalent of my work 🤣
Although I do like the back boxes fixing to stud, ours don’t do that cleanly.
Sweet thx Karl 👊👍
@@proanswers could it be he's talking about the actual tradesman in the video and not in general? Why do you feel the need to tell people how they should speak?
@@nova31337 Perhaps? just like you need to comment on my comment. Sounds like you need to be heard. Thanks. Your right.
I have really come to love Wago connectors. I pretty much never use wire nuts anymore. Especially in a temporary job. I bought a pack of the Wago 220s and was wiring lights up with ease. I'll never go back.
@@nova31337 I certainly wasn't saying only men can be good at a trade. I also know excellent female electricians, drywallers and decorators.
Garbage handyman services do this.
It’s funny when you leave in the bloopers. 😛
Man how was that cable pull so easy? Even when I have a straight shot it gets bound up on stuff and bends back on itself 🤣
By far, my “go-to” favorite channel that scratches my home improvement / DIY / weekend-warrior itche. LOVE YOU GUYS!
Camera work just keeps getting better and better.
Great video, thanks.
Where did you get the hole saw you used to cut the hole for junction box? And the name or a link, please.
Up here in Canada we use metal boxes that come with mechanical clamps to hold the lumex, there are also ground screws in the box.
Wow what a great fix. i enjoyed it. i was also curious about the 4x4s whoud it haD beed possible to mount a fan rated box the type that mounts directky to a beam,
Noticed you’re using Klien tools. When I graduated from trade school in 1970 a local electrical supply house gave all the electrical students a tool pouch filled with Klien tools. I still have them and use them regularly.
Yea, just bought a Klein wire stripper/cutter/ screw cutter to replace an old Chinese one that fell apart. Well worth the extra $10-$15.
It used to be that’s how you could tell a licensed electrician from a non-licensed one from their tools because only the electrical distributors sold Klein and only licensed electricians could make purchases a the distributor…..of course that was before the internet and now Klein is available everywhere
Bringing it up to code and replacing the shoddy work, but to be honest I liked that 4x4 cross piece if it was nailed in right (instead of guessing).
could have just pulled off the mount and screwed an appropriate depth fan box to the 4X4. but then it turns out the fan would have been off center.
I don’t think I have ever been able to get an old box out that cleanly. It usually gets broken into a million pieces. Great work fellas!
I just beat those ancient bakelight boxes apart. they just crack and break apart anyway so why waste the time trying to get it out in 1 piece
Cup of coffee and a stud pack video. Good Saturday morning!
Great video! Those gloves are comfy too (have a similar set).
Can't handle that nasty pink insulation either... beside the fiberglass particles in my lungs, my arms itch for days. Found out a lot of the old stuff has formaldehyde in it, so hot or not, I wear an old long sleeve button down over my clothes with a respirator in every attic. Not fun, but less itch & cough.
Also, prefer to find where the new light, fan, etc. will go, do all my drywall patching first (hot mud whenever possible), then cut the new hole, and drop in the fan bar. Same thing, just different order.
I hate that fiberglass insulation for the same reason. Makes me itch for days.
If You get insulation in your skin, A strip of duct tape will pull a lot of it out.
I would have put the fan on the joist and used a saddle box. Much easier to work with than a bracket box.
New subscriber. Nice clean work. Been doing odd jobs around the house for the past 50 years as a homeowner trying to save a few $$. Learned a lot through trial and error but with your videos will now be able to advise my kids how to do it better.
19:38 Haha, I knew as soon as there was a sharp cut after you hammered the piece and then there was a fluff of insulation "covering" the oopsie on the other side.
But that's one of the reasons why I watch you guys: you show the mistakes and aim to do better next time.
Cheers from Germany!
Thx! Yeah I saw that in the video too 😂
I agree, it's one of the things that sets this channel apart ... nothing is magic, the mistakes are there, they are called out, and they are human. Although I have to say, it's unrealistic how few tiny screws fall into a garbage can full of everyone's old lunch or roll under a baseboard. Somehow for me that happens on every job.
Those blades for multi-oscillating tool get dull suuuuuper fast while cutting drywall. And for my Bosch star-lock tool it is over $30 to replace one blade like that. Any words of wisdom on that SP? Perhaps certain brand or trick #37 out of your experience sleeve. Thanks in advance and thanks for sharing. 👽
Use old blades for drywall
Love watching your videos, I’m in the uk and our electrics are a lot different than in the USA
*I like the way you Operate,*
I just watched your video how to, Install a door jam on a 100 year old door you're all door well done on that 1 as well I'm glad I found your Channel!!
I Look forward to hear from you, ByForNow
Ken
A happy wife. Is a happy life.
Nice to see you feed the cable down the wall with no obstructions 😁 😁 doesn't really happen in real life 😁- not in the UK anyway. Also, would've been interesting to see your method for fixing the first screw into the ceiling patch especially for the guys doing it for the first time.
Thanks for the hint-I would have never centered the box. Very thoughtful Paul.
12:23 nicely corrected the word bonding is correct vs grounding. Grounding is when we go to earth. Grounding and bonding are two different concepts that even "licensed" electricians mix up along with equipment effective grounding path and grounding rod. Any commenters or electricians want to debate -we will meet you over @ the Mike Holt website and get your education debate on.
Went thru Mike’s complete training years ago in California 👍 awesome teacher right there 👊
As someone mentioned before. Could have used a box that attaches to that nearby ceiling joist. You already moved it the other side anyway so it's not centered in the room
You want to use the proper fixtures. Attaching a box to a stud is a short cut solution. I've bought houses where that was done. Worse, they used nails so they were working their way out. So I had to have them removed and done correctly. I also had the electrician look at the rest of the circuits in the house and he found a lot of problems. 50 amp stove/oven on a 20 amp service. He also found the lines to some fans had a junction inside of a wall that wasn't even in a box. It was a big taped bug behind a wall that was the size of a baseball. No way to get to it. Sure, it all worked. However, he could have also killed someone. That's because whoever it was hooked the neutral to the ground in a socket box that turned out to be the last in the chain. Some of the other sockets turned out to be hot as a result. Sometimes you'd touch an appliance and get a little tingle. That's why. When he was done it was all correct, no problems.
Would love it if you could provide a link to a fan-rated stud box.
I just finished turning my carport into an efficiency. I had never swung a hammer before I started. You guys really helped me get through this. This project has been the most challenging thing I’ve ever done. But damn I wish I knew how you cut outlets holes in drywall with that multi tool. I used a key hole saw and let’s just say you can see my learning curve in the walls. The last 3 outlets are perfect but I had 2 shim out and patch all the others lol. Great channel and thanks again.
P.S. I was raised by an incredible single mother. It really warms heart to see such a loving, present, father and appreciative son who realizes what he has. Keep it up guys!
You and your son are beasts !! Awesome work, hope to be as skilled as you guys one day
I think you should start using WAGO connectors.
Especially the new inline connector for extending short wires.
That shitty music drove me away
Come and get your boxes up here in Canada ! We almost always use metal boxes, and they always have the wire security hold down you are looking for !
Great video !
Your videos are always educational and inspirational for doing things right. Happy Thanksgiving
Much appreciated Lou 👊👍
is this wiring up to nec standards? And, why not wear a mask while in the attic, so you aren't breathing in all of that crud?
very informative. TY
Was that a pressure treated 4x4 too?
Yes it was 👍
I really enjoy your videos! My dad was a great electrician, and now at the age of 45 I'm kicking myself with regret that I didn't learn that trade from him. I really like how u even explain how to use the tools and features of the products you use. Thank u!
What was that magnetic wrist band you had to hold your screws? Genius idea for working in tight spaces.
It’s by Klein tools 👍👊
You could have just installed pan cake ceiling fan box instead. It will be much stronger than T bar type. If you had to move that close to joist to make it center, Installing box right on the joist is also a option.
With a half moon or a pancake adding that whole patch could almost have been avoided.
Watching you both reminds me of time with my father who was a similar teacher (he's now passed). I enjoy your videos for this reason (in addition to the useful tips).
A true craftsmen is precise - even where no one will ever see the result.
Just curious what the new electric wire was added for?
I know NOTHING of electric plz don't roast me 4 asking.
Maybe new led light?
I work in the trades, and I watch a lot of building-related content online. You are quickly becoming one of my favorite producers. You are skilled and conscientious, and you have a pleasant demeanor. I wish everyone could work for a guy like you.
*I had to share this video out to my Facebook is Facebook in my special playlist* Your new friend Ken. How do you installed a new Bathroom draw fan light nightlight setup??
Awesome video as always. Tip from an energy efficient guy - whenever you are running wires down thru holes from the attic or doing boxes, seal around them with foam to minimize conditioned air leakage into the attic. Heat or air conditioning pumped into the house will build pressure and the air will want to escape into the attic through all those holes in the drywall
tip from a guy who pays attention to wire condition: any time multiple wires are foamed in, it reduces their ability to shed heat, and if they are loaded heavily, will put them at risk of failure.
@@kenbrown2808 What about intumescent fire caulk instead of foam? Thanks.
Ya and remember fire and foam =death got to protect foam from fire
@@illestofdemall13 it's still best not to have multiple cables carrying full current bundled together, but I think firecaulk traps a little less heat than foam.
@@kenbrown2808 Yeah, I'd just drill several holes and leave some space between each so they aren't bundled.
What would you do if the center of your room was directly under one of the wood members? Would you just have to accept that you can’t center your fan perfectly in the center and just offset the ceiling box to make it fit between two of those wooden members? I’m calling them wooden members because idk if joists is the correct terminology lol.
Carlon CFB-12 Ceiling Fan Saddle Box - screws right on the joist and the box straddles the joist with deeper compartments on both sides so you get enough volume to meet fill requirements.
Legrande makes a 3 single pole switch assy that fits in to a single switch j-box. They also have receptacles with USB power supplies, GFI receptacles with USB power and night light, night lights. Cool electrical product line, I'm upgrading my condo to Legrande!
I have a jankey ceiling wiring story. I purchased my home from my mother. My half brother (I don't claim either half) lived in it for eleven years with his family.
The house was built in 1974 so I don't know if he did this or the "builder". I had the house rewired and not only did we find live wires wrapped in PAPER MASKING TAPE AND NO CAPS, but the ceiling fan in the living room was wired like this...
Power to switch. Switch to wall receptacle in the attic crawl space. Ceiling fan wired to a cheap brown extension cord which was plugged into the receptacle.
We were told we were lucky the house didn't catch fire.
In Sweden, all installation cables must be in pipes (PVC/plastic) inside walls. All connection must be in boxes. All new installations must be with protective earth. We have 240V from hot to neutral, 400V between each of the 3 hot phases. Normally, outlets are fused with 10A.
Hey Stud Pack. Do you have to worry about Artex and other asbestos based texturing products on older ceilings in the US? I'm in the UK, I'm having to pay a contractor to remove the asbestos coating from my kitchen ceiling in my new (to me) 1970s house, so I can replace the water damage from the bathroom above.
I should be picking up the keys in a week or two, and I'm itching to start work.
I am one of “those guys”! Yep! I admit it! 20 years ago I was poor….and dumb and received a ceiling fan from a give away. Being the genius I was back then, I decided to instal it maaaaself! How hard could it be. I’ve watched Bob Villa on PBS while having a saturnoon beer or two, or three. Take the ceiling light out that looks like the boob and smash the fan up in there. So what. After reading the instructions which only took about 10-15 seconds, I threw them out and got to work. Went to my neighbors and borrowed all his tools. After a few minor distractions playing with power tools I never had played with before, I was ready. I first used the crow bar to remove the old light, that was easy. The hole now was just a bit too big but I figured once the fan blades was rolling, they would surly cover the diameter of the 3 foot hole anyway. Plus, I had 2 full rolls of duct tape left from body work I’d just done on the family wagon. That would suffice. I have to say to, to any you guys just getting going in home repair, it’s a myth you need to shut breakers off. As long as you don’t touch the metal part of your borrowed screw driver, you’ll be fine. Back to the instal though. I didn’t have a brace for the fan to rest on in the hole so I used a broom handle. Worked fine. I did get the wires screwed up and whenever you turned on the
fan, the living ceiling light turned off and the sconces in the kitchen dimmed. I told people I did it on purpose to conserve electricity. Stupidest thing is after I left that house, I got a letter from my old landlord saying it didn’t “add” to the value of the home. What an asshole. Tried to sew me for damages …..and he’s full of shit, I don’t believe it caught fire and burnt ceiling up either.
Are you guys having any troubles with supply chain issues?
We sure are up here in North East PA. Windows and doors are 8 to 12 weeks out and the quality is sub par at best.
Yes we are. Can’t wait till it’s over... if it’s ever over 🤔
@@StudPack
No joke there!
I hate that half round sheetrock buzz saw blade. The Diablo asymmetrical drywall blade is my favorite for sheetrock cutting.
One things for sure you could never be a plumber...making a nice square opening like that. Kinda makes me want to use duct tape on waste lines to get even JK ;-)
PS Agree completely on the box, I would gladly pay extra for screw clamps instead of pinch clamps.
Reminds me of the living room fan of the house I bought. Spent two years trying to balance it, never could. Finally went to put in a new one, found the junction box had one nail, not driven all the way in, and the fan was hanging from only one of its two mounting screws, so it was never going to balance. 😂 (And of course might have fallen down!)
Put in a proper Saf-T-Brace and have had no problems ever since, except now the fan won’t spin in reverse. 😂😂
Great video! I'm an electrician by trade, and I would use exactly the same materials that you did for a job like that! I usually charge $300 per room for fan installation using the methods in this video.
Awesome thx Jeff 👍👊
I'd have used a Raco 294 box or equivalent. Only so I don't have to get into the attic and I can get the strength of screwing into the adjacent joist.
I'm thinking you could have fixed that ceiling box much quicker and easier by attaching a 4" diameter 1/2" deep steel pan box (aka pancake pox) to that stud that you said was solid. The only reason I see for doing what you did there is if your ceiling fan needs a deep box ( but that's rarely the case) or if that stud had not been sturdy...
I just have a question. I noticed that you are wearing insulated gloves while connecting and pulling wires. Because of these safety gloves, are you working with live wires? I'm not looking for shortcuts when it comes to safety but I was just wondering. By the way, I'm a huge fan! Thank you!
Great stuff! Thanks for uploading, I have been learning so much from you guys.
Cool thx Mark 👍👊
NEVER trust live circuits because you "know" what is shared. ALWAYS test the actual wires you are going to be working on either with a contact free tester or even better, a meter on the actual wires. You would be amazed by the way some people wired stuff. Even a known dead circuit could be still live. Never trust someone else's work when it comes to electrical.
Mr. Paul .That's six Sir .. The times you've been in the attic for this remodel .. and I said you'd be in that attic ten times .. it looks like I'm going to win a Stud Pack shirt and cap .. X-tra large shirt please .. HAHAHAHAHA . I'm joking ..
Great One Gents ..
But where is the Link to the Fan Install videos ..
Just about to deal with chain lamps and ceiling fans in a 1939 Craftsman home. Great video ...
Talk about creating work. I understand why he just didn't use a ceiling pancake box shiming it out so it's flush with the ceiling drywall on the existing 4 x 4. -- lack of experience.
The ceiling fan in my bedroom is installed in the same way, except it wasn’t as tight. In fact the mounting bracket can wiggle easily from how loose it is.
Live dead Live test! Safety First.
I know its only mandated on voltages over 600, but I do it on every circuit I work on..
There was enough space for a deeper electrical box to accept a 14/3 if he added a separate junction box before that. This would have allowed for keeping the sturdy cross brace.
Metal boxes have such a clamp and screw you desire. My biggest pet peeve are plastic and nylon boxes. They're useless, polluting, and cheap.
No idea if you get this but.. I live in an overheated high rise flat. Above me is a concrete celing and a flat above (well several flats)
Can my light fitting be changed into a celing fan (with lights) or is this going 5o be impossible? It's always very stuffy and fed up using 4 floor fans if I can change to just one decent celing fan. (floor to celing is bang on 8ft btw) or even two fans each side of the light if that's better but that will need more wires and cost more. I rent with housing (secured for life so I'm allowed a celing fan "if suitable" and but at my own cost and they have no advice if its suitable or not and said Its up to me 🤦♂️)
Great video as usual! Thank you. Just FYI: Before any re-modelers re-wire their house with 14/3 for a fan box they should be aware wiring a fan installation site with 14/3 can potentially restrict installations of current model fans on the market today. Why? 18 years ago I rewired all my rooms with 14/3 so every fan would separate control legs for both fan and light, which has been great. (fan speed control and light dimmer) Unfortunately the majority of ceiling fans sold today come with LED light fixtures as well a remote control (i.e. transmitter and receiver) It should also be noted because many now include remote controls, fans no longer have pull chains. Last week I purchased a new fan for the master bedroom because the wife wanted a more modern looking unit. What should have been a quick job I soon discovered I had to replace the light fixture control in the switch box with one that would support dimmable LED lights. (The old dimmer was designed for incandescent lighting). Also unfortunate, I also also had to replace the nice full range speed controller I had installed because the electronics incorporated within the fans remote receiver does not support variable rheostat full range dimmers. The instructions warn: Do not operate the fan with a variable fan speed controller, as it could result in damage to the ceiling fans remote control receiver unit) NET: Most newer fans on the market today are conveniently geared towards homes with 14/2 wiring and a single pole wall switch so users can control both the fan speed and light dimming all via the included remote control (eliminating the need for 14/3 wiring.) While I appreciate fan manufacturers are making fans that will work with 14/2... it made my the simple swap installation of my new expensive fan even swap more expensive and painful than it had to be. Personally if I was remodeling a home today I doubt I would bother running 14/3. NOTE: In fairness, in another great video you did - IN DEPTH Fan Installation Guide" - you covered a fan installation where 14/3 wiring wasn't used because of the fans remote controller design. Just wanted to mention it here in case anyone was on the fence about rewiring
Cool thx Elton 👍. Yeah definitely a lot more ways to control ceiling fans now even from your phone I’m sure.
It would have been faster to take out the old fan control and hardwire both black and red then use a remote control to control the motor and light. Then you can put a blank insert in place of where the control was. It isn't complicated if you are experienced with fans already. When I buy a fan or ask a customer to shop for one, I get all the controls sorted out ahead of time.
Having 14/3 is better than 14/2 because you can reconfigure 14/3 in several ways, but with 14/2 you will never have the red conductor (if you were to need it).
it's a lot easier to safe off an extra wire than to connect one more wire than you have.
but if you already have the fan, and you know you won't need the third wire, then you don't have to install it.
@@kenbrown2808 Basically what I was trying to say is there is no issue with having an extra conductor that you don't need. It seems like the gentleman above isn't very familiar with different fan wiring configurations and might have expected things to be easier. Things are easy once you already know how everything works (after installing hundreds of fans like myself). I'd rather have one more wire rather than not have enough conductors.
great video!
Went to a lot more trouble and expense than necessary, A fanmaster box, (which looks like a pancake box with a half of a pipe on one side of it) would work next to that stud. Once he found the center of the room, all he had to do is put a mark on a length of conduit and transfer it onto the ceiling. A few inches one way or the other would never be noticed. No need to buy a laser pointer. I can usually come close to the next truss by measuring over 22-1/2". They make 3 gang pop in boxes. a lot cheaper than a stack switch. If you run into a 4" sq. box in a wall with a 1 gang plaster ring, you can cut the drywall exactly to the dimensions of the box, remove the plaster ring and replace it with a 2 gang. The wallplate will cover the drywall. Duct tape will remove a lot of insulation from your arm.
Great! Now i got Glen Campbell singing "Wichita lineman" in my head...... btw whats with $5 hammer?
My office has 3 light switches. One controls the lights. One controls an upside down power outlet. The third one doesn't do anything. I the ceiling there's a ground, black, white, and red. I took down the chandelier, but the wires came out of the wire nuts before I could see the configuration. I'm assuming the red and black each go to a lightswitch, and I would think this is for a ceiling fan. The box is between two joists that I found with a stud finder. How can I be sure that this box is supported by wood? It's a condo built in 2004, I can't really take this box out to see what's going on on the other side. I see two screws vertically into the box, then two separate screws that are holding the bracket from the chandelier into the box.
hi i was wondering if you could help explain a ceiling fan with three switches. i removed an old ceiling fan that had a light and fan switch by door and then across the room a light switch to just light. my new fan has remote and everything is clipping into it. no pull option but i wish i could still have light and fan set up has before. this ceiling fan may not be able to be a setup like i used for this room? Not sure you like to Q&A. Just when I thought I can do this having installed a hand full of ceiling fans before technology has passed me by again. thank you in advance. You may not look back at two years ago. i am not very good at commenting obviously.
I'm a diy`er, your videos are awesome. I no nothing about code(s). However the stuff I've done around my house is right, after watching you work.
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Shoot you think that installation is bad, you should see what someone did on our house. Our house was built in 1912, it has had some slight updates over the years. But most of it is hack work. The living room and my room have drop ceilings like in school classrooms, the living room has 2 ceiling fans in it, the ceiling fans are attached to single 2x4's and they just lay on top of the drop ceiling rafters. No supports and they aren't even anchored. Just free floating. You can wobble the fans around. On top of that there is only 2 fans in the ceiling no other lights or sockets, but there is like 15-20 junction boxes accross the ceiling, some not even a foot apart. Looks like they used scrap wiring that was left over and was too short, so they joined them with junction boxes. There worst part is none of the wires are wire nutted, they are twisted and electrical taped together. There use to be some drug addicts living here, I honestly think it had to have been them that did it. There is all kinds of other electrical issues as well, dead plugs, reverse polarity, and other issues. Also the whole kitchen and living room are tied inte the same breaker as the garage and that cause the breakers to blow all the time if anything is one. Really wish this house had drywall instead of the antique crappy wood paneling. I want to fix it up properly, but not even sure where to begin.
hey what's good. did you have to spray foam around the box to keep insulation rating or code? thanks... Learning a lot from you guy in a few day..