HYTORC Centerlock Wheel Gun - Centerlocks Made Easier!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- We tested this a few months back, and it was a slightly different variant which was going to ship with centerlocks. After a lot of back and forth, and even after initially not wanting anything to do with this delrin reaction arm, I think this is absolutely the right move. There's no need to change the Porsche centerlocks if it's not necessary, and the delrin reaction arm touches the wheel ever so slightly, so my concern with damaging the wheel is non-existent. Very similar to what Porsche uses at the factory, the Hytorc Centerlock tool makes removing and re-torquing centerlocks a breeze. Where has this been all my life?!?!
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If it's a calibrated instrument , I would keep it in padded hard case and not a soft bag.
I've had my GT3RS 6 weeks. I've replaced the brakes with AP Racing brake kit, one-off and on. To the track 4 track days, 4 off and on. I will be getting this tool.
“Most of you aren’t going to even have a car like this, so suck it”. Lmfao laughed soo hard. Love it!
Tesla Bro’s Unite
we all have these cars that's why we are watching, made him look a dick saying that imo.
Most of us say things we regret at times, and by now we kinda get an idea who Matt is. But I digress…you’re absolutely right and I imagine Matt might agree with you.
I don’t agree.
I've got a 3RS, but I'll bet plenty of his audience doesn't. They follow his channel because they're into detailing. He does have a lot of non=Porsche videos, you know.
People are too sensitive about what behavior constitutes being a dick. Saying, "I ****ed your mother last night," is being a dick. Saying, "Most of you don't have a car like this," is just telling the truth, and it isn't even an offensive truth.
If anyone is worried about the delrin scratching the wheel finish , I’m sure you could slip a microfibre towel between them
you just don't let any particles of grit in between, its fine. this dude reminds me of a friend of mine, natural hot head lol but goood ethics etc
Or just slip a sock over it.
This and the tire mounting and balancing system have served as Matty's stair steps to new levels of cool stuff.
Matt, I had a Porsche tech come and remove a centre lock for me. The safety pin got stuck like yours. To fix it he screwed in an M8 bolt and wiggled it round until the pin popped out. Apparently it’s very common for them to stick. Hope this helps
For everyone complaining about price, if you are tracking a car with center-lock wheels, $5,000 ain't a big deal to you.
I do track a 991.2 GT3RS. How do you know what the rest of my finances look like?
@@xtnuser5338 It's a reasonable assumption that $5000 probably *isn't* too big a deal to you if you track a .2 RS. However, whether or not you'd justify spending that $5000 on this tool is a different question. You may prefer to spend that $5000 elsewhere on something that's more important to you.
@@jackschofield7308 Every dollar is a big deal to me. In fact, without this philosophy, I never would have reached a point where I can afford this car.
@@xtnuser5338 sounds like it’s too much for you to fill up lol
@@yanzi1957 Do you mean to fill up with gasoline? Then no.
Would like to see if the reaction arm fits on all the Turbo S wheels. I think the Turbo S/GTS market could be as big as the GT3 & RS market. Would be a great too for longer road trips, means you can use smaller garages for punctures etc. that don’t have Porsche centre lock equipment. And for switching to a winter set of wheels & tyres on a Turbo S or GTS.
To release the locked safety lock , use the small picking tool to rotate it in both directions and it will release
Unfortunately of the 7 Porsches I’ve owned, I’ve yet to have center lock wheels. But I remember well the video of the prototype and have been waiting to see this excellent job here, Matt.
Our right rear center lock nut actually got stuck yesterday at the track when switching the stock wheels back on it. I just took a 1/2 breaker bar to it, wiggled it a bit and lightly hammered it straight in, and it became unstuck.
I just received mine yesterday. Wow! Freaking amazing. One handed, no screwing around with depressing brake, locking steering, etc. For me, worth every penny. I track my car, so I have the wheels off and on a bit. I always dread rotating wheels at long track weekend. Now, I’m looking forward to it next weekend at Road America!
I know the reaction arm isn’t slamming the spoke of the wheel but I’d like to know how much force it is putting on the spoke as it is working. Is there a chance it could bend or weaken the spoke with as much force as being put on the center lock?
If that much pressure bends the spoke of your wheels then they probably shouldn't be on the porsche. Most wheels can handle alot more pressure than what this tool applies.
Came to my mind also. But actually I am more surprised that the wheels did not turn. So I would say no
It’s not that simple. He is applying 443ft-lbs of torque. That’s 443 pounds applied at one foot from the center of rotation. The reactive torque is the exact same number. 443. That reaction arm looks to be closer to 6 inches from the center of rotation. So you’re looking at almost 900 pounds of force being applied to that forged wheel spoke. I assume Hitorc worked with Porsche in the tool design and Porsche assured them the wheel can handle the stress of the reaction arm. I would be curious though what the wheel can handle before it bends.
@@mikekuhnracing spokes are strong on forces that push in line, but I highly doubt these thin spokes were designed to withstand forces pushing in from the side at that much torque.
@@Supaswol During threshold braking the spokes probably see just as much bending moment. Remember that Porsche uses a very similar tool for factory installation.
I just bought it. I hope it's cool!
Just got mine delivered. Going out to try it now.
Awesome gadget. Makes live much easier. Greets from germany 👋
Neoprene rubber (check mcmaster carr) will be a great cover for the reaction arm. Super soft, heat resistant, and should last a long time.
I have always been a fan of a good torque multiplier.
Great tool for someone who would need it a few times a year but not so much for a once or twice a year use. Possible to rent them out?
they should make a foam form which fits perfectly in the frunk and holds the device
The tool you use the remove the plastic GT3RS cap can be used to pop the pin. You can use the back of it. If you notice it fits right into the pin hole where you can push and prod it a bit so it pops back flush. Porsche mechanic showed me the trick.
Am I high or did this gun used to do the whole procedure with the 1/4 turn out and in?
Edit: literally as I pressed send on this comment Matt mentioned it. Yea super curious about that...maybe because there is no way for the software to take into account movement before reaction arm contacts the wheel./?
It does. I found it in the software after the video.
@@ObsessedGarage Cool. That is an awesome tool. Maybe have Pelican make a custom OG spec case that holds everthing and will fit in the frunk?
You're high
Homie got so butthurt that he locked the nut 😂😂😂
The reaction arm should have different sizes available. Can't be hard.
Not something I'll ever use, but super legit!
HET here. To hold the socket on the rad gun, there’s a little orange safety ring that sticks through and wraps around the socket. Or a zip tie works in a pinch. 😁
I have a friend that has one of these. Thought about getting one until I saw the price. I rarely remove the wheels but this thing is legit so if you’re removing center lock wheels frequently, this is what you want.
"Thought about getting one until I saw the price" - same. If it had been $1k I would get one in a heartbeat.
Matt any chance I can get your opinion on the coming Cayman GT4 RS?
I love how you manage to find a way to talk down on all the peasants in almost every one of your videos. We shall all worship the ground you walk on Your Highness.
You mentioned that the Porsche software in this is $800, but if it doesn't automatically do the 1/4 turn procedure, what is the software?
It does, I just missed it. It had to be turned on in the menu.
@@ObsessedGarage Got it. Might be a worthwhile reason to redo this video. Thanks for working on the development of this, I appreciate it.
You must loosen the locking pin before trying to loosen the nut! Simply put a 1/2 inch square drive on the pin and tap it with a mallet or hammer gently and the pin will pop back loose. the you can easily insert the factory tool to remove the nut. The pin is stuck because it is preventing the nut from loosening while the car is being driven.
Why did the prototype you posted 4 months ago work without the leverage arm???
Also, check out the Dundon video just posted where there is a clip of the Porsche factory wheel tigtening machine.
I think the tool needs a locking mechanism for the nut.
The prototype used a different center lock made by high torque. This new version uses factory Porsche center locks
Amazing
Wow wow wow!! Sweet Lord ! I want one!!!
Nice to see some car based vids again.
Maybe I missed something, but couldn’t you just put a microfiber between that and the wheel so it doesn’t come in contact? I know it doesn’t scratch, but still
Matt, Could you not just put a Foam Pool noodle over the reaction arm? Extra protection?
When the locking pin sticks like that, just take a long socket a little smaller than the opening and a hammer. Hit it like a drift against the locking pin. It happens when the CL nut assembly needs cleaned.
Love it
Holy smokes, Matt saying you'll never own a car like this THEN he says SUCK IT..... freaking funny as Fuck
That is a sweet tool
Lets do this!!!
Matt, any chance of lowering the price of the gun? The same gun is listed for $3999 elsewhwere and Renntorq has a torq multiplier tool for $2300. I understand Porche owners have money but they still don’t like throwing it away.
Imma put center locks on my detailing van.
Is that Carrara White Metallic paint or standard White? Nice video man!
For the price, you would think that it has a calibration for degrees, to loosen it a 1/4 turn then re tighten.
It can do the whole process automatically.
It does, and it can. You just have to set it up in the software.
Thats why the Porsche Centerlook is nonesense. They Look nice, but not User friendly
Why center locks anyway don't they weigh more than a 5 lug so what's the point
Got another one coming? Sooo GT3 Touring inbound?
Yes, my allocation is June 2022. Paint to Sample!
Matt, the issue is not how slowly the reaction arm touches the spoke. Of course it will touch it slowly, you are using a torque multiplier, so the speed of the reaction arm turning will be equally slow as it touches the wheel spoke. You are applying several hundred pounds of force to a wheel spoke. 443 ft-lbs is the torque being applied, so a lever arm which is probably 6-8 inches long is applying about 700-800 pounds of force against that spoke. Further compounding the issue is that the Delrin sleeve is not touching the spoke across the entire face; since the Delrin roller is cylindrical, it is applying stress at a very small cross-sectional area on the contact patch with the spoke (i.e. probably a fairly small linear contact). Therefore, the point stress is very high. This happens once at the factory during assembly. For a tool that is marketed at people who will be using this over and over again (at the track for example), you are applying several hundred pounds of force on a painted surface that is not meant for it. I think the basic idea is fine, but why not make a reaction arm that uses the ground and avoid touching the wheel spoke whatsoever? I for one don't want any risk to a painted surface, especially not if I am being asked to spend $5,000. I had a thought - can the reaction arm be flipped around 180 degrees on the splined shaft (i.e. pointed toward you and not the car), and be supported by a support off the ground?
You are missing the cost of creating a new product from scratch. This is only $5000 because we are using what already exists.
Delrin is a very robust material. The wheels even more so. It’ll be fine. Pretty sure a wheel is designed to withstand thousands of pounds of forces in all directions. They wouldn’t be suitable to use on a track otherwise.
The calculation works the other way, the reaction arm has leverage/length so the torque applied would be less that to the center/nut.
Since there’s a torque multiplier involved, there’s probably about 100# give or take on the spoke. Depends on the gearing ratio of multiplier. In any case it’s only a fraction of the 440 pounds being applied to the nut.
some times with this type of electric gun you have to rest the gun with a higher torque to undone the nut
Newton’s third law… with impact guns, it’s usually your wrist that gets that opposite reaction.
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Matt acts like he takes off, remounts and balances wheels every 5 days lol
He said he's going to use it a couple times a year, what are you talking about?
I’m not going to dive on a grenade for Matt here, but in no way shape or form does he ever do what you said. I’m just left scratching my head.
At 0:37 he actually says, "I have no business owning one of these, but I want it anyway".
Straight up OG talk spoken like a pro!
I don't understand why you would want to use a reaction arm against a wheel spoke - why not use an extension made to use the floor for the reaction arm force? That eliminates any risk to the wheel whatsoever.
Because if you’re using a lift, a reaction arm down to the floor would have to be incredibly large and heavy to not flex, and would end up being super cumbersome.
18:21 ouch 😂😂
Does the tool have enough battery to remove and reinstall all wheels without charging it?
Definitely. You could probably do about ten sets.
18.20 "most of you are never gonna have a car like this, so suck it" what a shitty remark
Get your GT4 RS on order 😁
*I haven't made enough to own a Porsche so I'm going to head out lol*
I just came here to watch Matt talk cause it calms me down
Luckily my 996 only requires a $25 Hazet 19mm socket 🤣
Wtf do I care...most you never gonna have a car like this...so suck it! I am still laughing! Golden!
why doesn't that tool also have an angle setting??? sounds like a waste
It does.
Less talk more action
60* is not more than a quarter tun. 60* is 1/6 of 360*. 90* is 1/4 of 360*. Close enough? Ehhh…Maybe that’s why you’re not at Merrill Lynch anymore? 😉
Use the cap removal tool but the other side to get the center spring section to pop out.
Lovely bit of kit, but $5k.....someone's been smoking crack
How much crack will $5000 buy? Maybe if you STOP smoking it, then you can afford this tool?
Do I have a car with centerlocks?
No.
Do I want this?
Hell yeah.
Excellent kit but overpriced and not worth it unless your a Porsche indie dealership seeing a load of these coming through and to add insult to injury you need it calibrating every 6 months.. 🤑🤑
automated was much nicer
$5k to change a wheel... Ouch!
easiest way to avoid buying a gun like this is to avoid buying a junk car
this is rubbish,what a ballache watching .is it even brushless?
$5000 for that!!!! what!!!
You think it's like a Home Depot home-sumer grade screw gun with plastic gears inside? It isn't. It's a legit, industrial grade, precision, programmable tool.
The innovation is the outter mesh gear which mates with the reaction arm : The torque from the outter mesh gear induces a spin in the reaction arm which is interrupted by the spoke of the wheel, in turn transferring all effective torque from the outter mesh gear to the inner chuck in the power gun. This is torque previously generated by human arms! The power gun can torque up-to-OEM-specification for these wheel locks, which come exclusively to Porsche and other supercars, because it is calibrated to these models in HyTorc's software.
What a waste of a video, you don't even track your car. It would be faster use to use a breaker bar and a torque wrench.
It's not even close. This is much more efficient and faster.
@@ObsessedGarage I can tell you for a fact, I can change my CL on my GTS faster.
It is as precise, maybe not, but the +/- 4% of a torque wrench is better than this tool and the cost and time.
I still don’t understand the purpose of center locks for anyone outside of a racing environment. Just poser equipment.