When I had to move and needed to make money fast, Amazon paid really well. They were 5 hour shifts so they worked around my other job(I was an assistant manager at the time so that was difficult), they hired me on the spot under the condition I'd pass a drug test and they actually paid higher than I got when I was a general manager for entry level work. I didn't think the working conditions were great, but because the first week was "training" I pretty much only worked there for 2 weeks on the floor and got the money I needed so it was worth it.
Its actually not that blizzard pays badly or amazon pays better, its that pretty much every company skimps on pay raises. So if you stay in a single place too long, they won't ever give you a raise, and you'll find out the only way to get your pay up to standard is to keep jumping from job to job. The guy working on amazon for 10 years probably earns the same thing as the guy working on blizz for 10 years, which is less than the guys who barely got there.
all i have to say is that Reinhardt cinematic is my all time favorite piece of gaming cinematic. literally made me cry. Bless your dad for giving us those memories.
Judging an entire companies ethos based on a few anecdotes out of millions of people over several decades is nothing more than trendy "successful company is evil" BS. It's basically just a meme that people have turned into an insane stereotype they can use to sound virtuous and socially conscious without having to do any actual mental work.
@@NautilusGuitarsExactly with me hiring people. I had ONE negative interaction with ONE person I hired versus EVERY SINGLE PERSON I HIRED AND BOOM! Entire Godot Reddit jumping down my throat siding with the guy I hired.
Well you have to remember that different departments always have different cultures. I can use the warehouse job I had during my first two years of college. The people out on the factory floor were subject to what I felt was pretty horrible work conditions with nobody really caring for anyone else and management being probably the root of the problem. However, just across the wall into the warehouse our working conditions were amazing in comparison. It was a refrigerated warehouse so that was horrible, but the people were all the difference. Everyone in the warehouse had the opinion that we all know the job sucks, the least we can do is always help eachother to make it not suck. Obviously that doesn’t speak for all warehouses or factory floors, of course, but it’s always a perspective to think about.
white and blue collars get treat differently, just like market place vs web service. Everything even out to make the AVERAGE stats seemed great on paper, as well as paying zero fed taxes.
@@rovvy221they pay taxes. It's a published fact. People like Bernie sanders just claim otherwise to use the company as a whipping boy for their agenda
Wait your dad's Joeyray Hall? What a guy! That impeccable cinematics quality for so many games. Met him once, Worldwide Invitational Paris 2008, on a big screen over part of the show floor they had a reel of all the old cinematics playing, and he happened to be wandering past just as it had the intro to the Terran campaign of original Starcraft on. I sidle up and match the line as it plays: "Whatchu got for me out there Joeyray?" and then awkward thanks for many fond memories.
No it’s not. Lol He has a clear, deep tone. Vocal fry is when you close up your vocal chords and force air through a tiny space causing a gravely, quiet, annoying character
What you want is for them to get paid and benefits like it’s a career but that will never be a career but simply a hourly job and that’s exactly how they should be paid just like any unskilled worker. If you are 30 and still unskilled hourly labor than that’s on you and shut up.
@@waynewayne9693 You are acting way uncool, sure its not a crazy job, but it needs to be done. If all those workers had better careers, you would not be getting your packages. Same goes for other "unskilled" jobs.
@@waynewayne9693 your acting very edgy rn lmao it would be nice if amazon could treat them like human beings, im not asking for them to have 999k a year salaries but like let them use the bathroom and have breaks, i mean even the kids in ethiopia mining lithium get more breaks than amazon workers at this point
“ it’s a legendary company because, people put legendary amounts of effort into it. “ Damn near every company in current times Glad you found a better employment! 💪🏾💯
not if you dont get a reward for doing that@@m0nookiE, at least in the beginning they had the pride of shipping good games, but later not even that, they put a lot of effort on adding stuff they didn`t want in the game because they knew players would hate, but where still forced to do it
@@m0nookiEThe problem is that these companies make their employees work long hours for low pay on the basis that they should feel privileged to be able to work at this "legendary" company. But the reason that the company is legendary is because its employees have put in a tremendous amount of work in order to build that reputation, so making it seem like it's a favour the company has done to the workers and not the other way around is disingenuous.
@@goldenhate6649 I still hear horror stories about people who work in their corporate offices. It's not the same type of stress obviously, but it still doesn't sound like a great place to work.
@@mowkikowski true. their corporate can't be that good if mgmt is forcing their workers return to office for arbitrary reasons and you can be fired if you dont comply
@@goldenhate6649I got a young brother that works on one of the warehouses… he actually says that it’s chill enough even during Christmas days. Pay is low (but above minimum wages enough to consider it over other easier minimum ones) and they only require him to work 20hrs a month to keep his job intact. Not saying is the pinnacle of greatness but far from what people would imagine for an “Amazon warehouse”. Big busy international metropolitan city we live at.
Wow, I had no idea your Dad was the cinematic director. The Blizzard cinematics from Diablo 2 blew my mind as a kid, I couldn't believe how amazing they looked. The cinematics are some of my favorite parts of the games. I remember getting excited after finishing each Act in D2 because it meant I got to watch an amazing masterpiece of visual storytelling. Props to you and your father. ❤️
yeah man, I remember Burning Crusade being released and going round to my mates to watch the intro cinematic together cos back then Blizz's cinematics were lightyears ahead.
That first cinematic I seen for WOW was a big deal, that scene were it opens with that nightelf running from the orcs was so otherworldly and magical I have no doubt those cinematics alone sold millions of people on getting the game. What a GOAT holy shit
Your dads work really was one of the highlights of my childhood. Im sure he hears it often, but Im glad he did that work so I could have those memories.
For me it doesn't get any better than WoD's cinematic. Fugitive Garrosh on the run fresh off his defeat in Siege of org hopping timelines to save his father and tell guldan to get fukt, to rebuild the iron horde to face the legion Worst xpansion but best cinematic, by far
@@sosa8549 yeah i could totally see it happening, pulled some strings and they welcomed him because he is the son of the director. good for him that he left though, all in all, it made his resume to be impressive enough to be accepted into just about any related company. not to say that blizzard have any high standards however, them paying for less indicates that they would take in any manpower for less
Your dad is a fuckin legend dude 🎉 I remember watching all those cinematics and they were always above all other games, dofferent fucking level. Kudos to his dad ❤
@@bocelottwell of course they do the expectation level is way up there. Just because you pay someone doesn't mean they will always stick around. Sometimes the money simply isn't worth it.
It's because times have changed. 35 years ago? 1988 We had just won the cold war within the past decade, shooting the US dollar into the stratosphere as the US becomes the only superpower in the world It was easy to pay you a good wage for your job in the 80s no matter what you did, and that effect steamrolled into the 90s
@@greenbean4422Odd because wages are out of control. I'm driving through states where the minimum wage is under $8/hr and Burger King have signs out offering $17/hr and nobody wants it...
@@trevordwyer5638 that's not true that no one wants it. I worked at a few fast food places and they always had their signs up even when they were not hiring.
@@greenbean4422 you can make that argument. However my argument is that since the 80's most corporations have outsourced their manufacturing to other countries, increasing the profit margin. Unless you work at a rare company, most of that gain went to the executives. The company I work for, my dad works for, has expanded exponentially in the past 20 years, becoming a global presence. The amount of money they waste now is incomprehensible, hundreds of thousands of wasted products every quarter. This is not my lone opinion, my dad also agrees that the company has been more limiting on what bonuses and benefits they give. They cut our cafe funding, holiday bonuses and incentives, while the executives enjoyed a 600% increase in pay during covid. Its happening throughout the US, and it's only getting worse. With how universities are separating the rich from the poor. There are countries that keep public schools well funded and equal, so the rich in those countries attend them, and the kids learn the experiences from others struggles, and have some of the most beneficial company policies because of it. So really, the greed in the US companies can be attributed to the large separation between private education vs our public education. That and the incredibly individualistic views that the US has now vs back in the 60s.
@@greenbean4422 Moreso its because Blizzard went through intense management changes after it became part of Activision, which radically changed the entire culture of the company.
Holy crap i knew that your dad worked for blizzard but to be the cutscene director? Are you kidding me? My friends and i would spend so long watching those over and over again i still check them out every once in a while because they are so good. So many iconic shots and lines and things that made my childhood. I can not thank your dad and his team enough. Man was obviously had passion and he’s passed that on to you. So keen to see more from you Thor!
True, and ironically this foolishness all but guarantees a future degradation of quality that will eventually undermine that legacy-perhaps to the point of complete failure.
@@hopefulpellinore5490 it's because big corporations underestimate the artistic value of videogames. Look at how Wolkswagen behaved with Lamborghini and Fiat with Ferrari: unlike EA that gutted the studios they acquired just to improve the profits on the short term, Fiat and Wolkswagen p left them intact, and give them the resources needed to do their work, even if it meant losing money for a few years, which allowed both Lamborghini and Ferrari to become extremley profitable. As it turns out, american corporations simply aren't capable to manage prestige brands.
This happens outside of the gaming industry even, just look into how SpaceX treats its employees. The other thing that "incentivizes" them to do this is that it does actually look good on a resume to have these companies because of how reputed they are. I don't know if that really holds true for Blizzard anymore after all the lawsuits, but for similar companies, you can go into it knowing it'll suck and you'll at least have a nice bit of leverage to hopping onto another job because recruiters and algorithms see, "Ooh big company!"
@@mozzjones6943 the problem with many american corporations is the composition of their shareholder boards, too many investors without any of them having a majority share, wich means the corporation is run by the CEO with the only goal of always increasing the dividends.
Man was indeed a legend. Made our childhoods amazing. I always loved warcraft cutscenes bcs they always felt ahead of its time, it was like watching a movie. Best dad man
As a gamer I want to say thank you for all the work you, your dad as well, put into those games, in hindsight the Duran/Narud thing should have told me how cracked the working condition were ... At that time I was thinking it is an coincidence or even an reference to Kojima's "body snatcher", the Rrandom Hajile / Elijah Modnar" thing ...
This showed up as recommended to me under the original WoW trailer. Thank your dad for creating the best game cinematics ever. I’ve been going back and rewatching all the trailers in preps for TWW and that’s so awesome to hear. Your dad is awesome at what he did
The cinematics your dad worked on give me a shiver to this day. They were so above other cinematics that I sometimes rewatched them from time to time, a thing I think I never have ever done with other game cinematics
I agree the Blizzard ones are legendary, but come on you never re-watched the openings to old Squaresoft games? Final Fantasy VIII and Parasite Eve particularly stand out in my memory. Capcom and Eidos tended to have great stuff for their time as well. I'm talking about that golden age of cinematics from around 1995-2005. So the cinematics era to me is from the start of the 32 bit disc based era to the launch of 7th Gen consoles with the Xbox 360, which is shortly after World of Warcraft. I will say though, those cinematics on Warcraft III and early WoW stuff were so far beyond what anyone else was doing at the time. They're impressive enough to hold up today in some parts.
I think the worst part is they can easily get away with those conditions to make profit. There's a massive line of people that would kill to work for them, meaning if someone asks for more they just toss them out and grab the next schlub in line.
The fact that amazon treats their game devs better than their warehouse employees is insane. My friend works in one of their warehouses and she had to FIGHT them to get workers comp when she got injured on the job. During training and initial tour of the warehouse you are reminded frequently that you are replaceable if you dont make your quotas. Among many other issues...
Man I am eternally greatful I have a profession where my skills are in demand enough, that even though sometimes treated like crap, I still know they need me more than I need them. EDIT: Combined with being a member of a relatively strong public services union.
I mean tbf he has some extremely valuable skills and a lot of evidence from his previous occupation at blizzard so obviously they would treat him better
My nephew was a lead dev on an Amazon project and he said working conditions were great and so were the incentives. I think he'd still be there if Google didn't offer him an even sweeter deal. I was also surprised because I've read so much about how shit they treat their warehouse staff. Amazon is notorious for being one of the worst employers
Well, seeing how they are taking their employees for granted, want to milk them for every second of their time and not pay them adequately, I'd say that it definitely looks like working for family XD
I'm pretty sure they will just be melted down into a cinematic company in the near future, one that provides cut scenes for other games. It's all they're good at now
Your dad single-handedly sold me on every single thing I ever bought from blizzard. Good lord he should be a movie director; the StarCraft 2 cutscenes gave me chills down my spine SO many times.
@@Zealant But his dad was the DIRECTOR. Which means he DIRECTED the story, narration, setting, visuals, etc. Basically put the puzzle pieces together to make the cinematics.
@@Zealant True but yeah as the person above me wrote, Director is in charge of it, if cinematic failed then everyone would have pointed fingers at him.
@@mystrre3553It's not quite that as a role in the industry, Director of Cinematics is the one in charge of the department and tends to be the one in meetings discussing the needs, expectations, standards of their departments, tool requests (and sometimes the more tricky, challenging things that need multi departments to agree) Doesn't take anything away from his role, it's just that it's not the same as say a Director on a film - it's more like a head of department
I mean he did greater work than being a movie director arguably by pioneering a new field and settings industry standards. He is also more famous than most due to the stories still being told about him by highly influential people and by being the antagonist in one of the biggest South Park episodes ever. Kindof a legend.
Ive watched the cinematics so many times they are so damn good no game has EVER to this day EVER made a cinematic as good as any of the WoW cinematics up to Wotlk i can't speak for anything after lich king though because i quit playing after that
shout out your dad for all the amazing memories, it was like dreaming the game before they had the gfx they had. such memories, honestly so happy i can say thank you.
I don't think every rung of the corporate ladder is underpaid. I doubt the CEO is underpaid. Directors may or may not be high enough, but they're definitely upper management.
Your had has had in hands in cutscenes that we had to study for class. Truly impeccable the Wrath of The Lich King will always be my favorite expansion and I think it has some of the coolest cutscenes ever in any video game I've ever seen.
Dude tell your dad thank you. Enjoying those cinematic with my dad and little brother (my dad was a gamer his whole life) are some of my fondest memories.
Amazon tech is way different than Amazon retail in terms of quality and pay. How do you think they were able to say that when looking for new headquarters the median salary would be 6 figures and 1000s of them?
Love overwatch, wasnt my childhood game but thankyou to your dad and yourself for helping in making some of the best years of my life, and your dads south park character was awsome, i knew who it was as soon as i seen him, you guys are legends, got bless and god speed
As a former Amazon employee, I will say they actually did pay you (if you were a direct employee and not a contractor) higher than most that did similar work in the area, plus some extra benefits that others didn't get (like free dental and eye coverage automatically even for part time employees.) Now, I wouldn't call that "paid like a human" but the problem is that no one was being paid like a human anywhere. Amazon just had to pay better and provide better benefits than everyone else nearby. The problem came in when peak season ended (I was in the shipping warehouse) and they had to get rid of excess employees. As for the work, the facility I was at was allowed to be more autonomous and therefore had pretty decent working conditions because what we were doing was experimental, but as our facility and other facilities like ours matured our processes, Amazon's corporate started to get more and more strict which made conditions worse slowly over time. That being said, I have since worked in places that are much worse than the Amazon facilities are and I can't believe they don't get more attention. Warehouse work SUCKS. Amazon is bad and absolutely deserves the negative attention it gets, but companies like Geodis and XPO deserve that same attention if not more. Right now a lot of the attention is on Amazon's contracted drivers, and having worked directly with both the truckers and the last mile delivery drivers and found they were getting screwed pretty hard by ridiculous time demands and low pay. The problem is that the market was oversaturated with drivers and the employers that paid well didn't need help because everyone flocked to them first. Basically, if Amazon needs more of something, they will pay well and offer decent benefits. If it's something they think they can get without trying, they will be the most bottom of the barrel negotiators you will ever meet. Since truckers are more in demand they've been training their own (I left when they were piloting this program in 2018 and 2019) as well as trying to be better with contracted short haul and OTR drivers, but they still treat their last mile contractors like crap. EDIT: Oh yeah. Some definitions since I realized they're a bit esoteric. Last Mile drivers are your delivery guys. They're the ones that drive up and deliver the package to your door. Short haul drivers are truckers that make short, usually 1-4 hour trips one way to deliver a trailer full of stuff. OTR, AKA Long-Haul are the ones you see in the big sleeper tractors. Their hauls will take 5 hours or longer one way.
The thing is, the complaints about Amazon usually aren't usually about the pay, but the working conditions. Of that, the place where the complaints come from is the Delivery Warehouses.
It's a legendary company because of the legendary devs and efforts they put in over 20 years ago. Most things in the last 10-15 years have sucked hard.
@@ogjuggalo4671 It's management. Heroes of the Storm failed, StarCraft died, OW's reputation died in 2, not 1, Diablo was fine during his time working there, they started heavily Fing up later a lot, etc. During his time there, he, like most devs, was constantly ignored on things he was right on the money about later. It's management and greed.
@@XSpiegel Nah. More than half of them are just DEI hires who were brought on to fill a quota and not because they're actually good at their job. Another quarter just suck or are mediocre at best. And the final amount are truly talented but there isn't enough of them to make actual good games. And yes 90% of leadership sucks. That doesn't give the devs a pass though.
Bless your dad (and you - and the rest of the team ofc) for the stellar outcomes of old school Blizzard. Mad love for their former works. All the best brother, stay awesome
Same. I applied to work there back in 2010. I would've had to move across the country, but I was ready too had I got the job. After hearing so many of these horror stories of working for them, I'm glad it didn't happen.
You learn a lot while being there. I left after 6 years when it was very apparent they wouldn't promote me but had no issues promoting other people ahead of me. Now I almost make triple what I made there.
Honestly 7 years is WILD. I know you were probably wanting to learn and gain the experience, but holy cow that's years of your life knowing you're getting the shaft harder than an off-shore oil rig.
That's the name of the game in the modern day, big corporations consider having to pay their employees a loss of profit and they try to slash it as much as they think they can get away with. Government regulation is the only reason they aren't paying us in cheap food and cages to live in on company property.
The WotLK opening cinematic was one of the most hype things I saw as a kid, my uncle and aunt were big players at the time and I remember seeing that and saying "I WANNA PLAY THAT GAME"
The Starcraft/Broodwar cinematics is the best ones ive seen in terms of pure atmosphere. The detonation of the science vessel, the lonely zealot vs zerg in the greco-roman setting, also the final voyage of Gantrithor with Tassadar.. I will never forget them, a big cultural part of my childhood
Blizzard used to be the dream for me as a network engineer. I had my chance too. I interviewed with blizzard for 6 months…. I had roughly 8 different interviews that went on for several hours with multiple rounds of people. In the end they ghosted me. I called them up wondering what happened and their answer was, “oh, sorry. That position was removed because of budget….” Biggest waste of time. They can suck it.
Yep. I think some large companies tend to behave that way for the interview process. Exact same thing happened to me over 6 months and countless rounds of interviews for Bass Pro Shops. (hilariously different industry but I'm a web designer)
I think I met your dad once! It was the very first BlizzCon and my girlfriends dad worked in video production and was able to get us tickets and even got us back stage where I met a few old school Blizzard employees and one was someone who edited cinematics for StarCraft and others, he said he'd worked on every one of them which makes me think it was your dad based on your story. Was amazing to meet legendary old school Blizzard employees. We got to test Ghost before it was scrapped and test Burning Crusade prior to release. Great event, great people. I miss that era of Blizzard :(
@@taintwasher3703 it was gonna be another starcraft game, but wasnt gonna be an RTS, but more like a TPS (tho i dont know much about how the gameplay was supposed be). However, the proyect got scrapped and the game never released.
@@taintwasher3703 A shooter set in the SC universe which was stuck in development hell for so long that it began as an N64 game and died as a GameCube game and never made it to a finished product lol
@@miriamweller812 Of course we do, capitalism is the greatest economic system that has ever existed in human history. That doesn't mean it's perfect, it has a lot of issues, this is one of them. Comunism on the other hand is proven to just lead to famine and poverty. Voting for comunism or any other system because of capislism's failures is dumb af. You gotta vote for what you believe will fix capitalism's failures.Also, you probably don't know what capitalism is, most people get it wrong.
Except he never actually sites any real reason why "it sucks" to work for Blizzard... weird I say, but sure believe anyone who complains as if their word and lack of evidence is golden
@@Saldivinorumhe literally said the reasons why it sucked for him… why are you so quick to doubt someone talking bad about a big company? Your comment reads like you got triggered by the video and instantly and hurriedly typed this comment up
Born in 1995, worked on Vanilla WoW which was released in 2004 (not to mention the development up to release), he was AT MINIMUM 9 years of age working on vanilla WoW. Working conditions at Blizzard are severely underestimated.
Poor Blizzard doesn’t have enough money to pay their employees a fair wage. Maybe they should charge more for skins in their games? I don’t think $25 is cutting it.
We really need to be more considerate of Blizzard, they're just a small billion dollar mega-corporation, we can't expect them to pay the people making them those billions!
The cut scenes from Blizzard games was always something that stood out even way back in the day. I know there was a huge team behind him but kudos go your dad as well that truly is something legendary. Also your voice is incredible.
Either your mic is really friggin good or youve got one of the smoothest voices I've ever heard. But on topic, I'm glad you've found a place to work that works better for you.
It's like that everywhere where you been🤣🤣🤣🤣. It's cry babies like this guy who thinks he entitled and thinks he should get paid more but in Reality PC programming is dime a dozen now days and he's only bitching about blizzard NOW because of the back lash of blizzard lawsuits.
@@kristoffer3000capitalism at least has to entice and retain willing employees. Your central authority socialism/communism system will assign you the labor in the same seized factory and laugh as you starve on your minimal rations and imprison/shoot you if you speak up. Instead of being a slave to mother nature and your own capability you are a slave to the systems greater need. Great job.
I would like to say that the cinematics in blizzard games were always my favorite parts. I'd play Warcraft 3 just to get to the cinematics. Also, the music in them was really the first time I noticed music in videogames as being more than just something in the background. Your father deserves a medal or a statue or something.
you are cringe if the cinematics are the ONLY good thing you think has come out of blizzard lmao. Stop shitting on them to just be trendy bro its fucking weird.
36% of industry standard is insanity. That's why the video games industry needs unions. Edit: it seems that people are very passionate about unions. I'll add a few replies all at once here after getting quite a few notifications of people making the same points: 1) Unions are corrupt: just see the second reply which I wrote, I'm not doing it again. Remember: the guy was paid 1/3 of industry standard 2) Just get a new job: why? If you're just leaving the company behind you then it will hire someone else with the same terrible conditions, plus there is a chance that other companies do the same. By negociating together with other workers (which is literally what a union is), you will probably help everyone AND save you the inconvenience of switching jobs. Especially if you like it, you should try to make it worth it instead of just leaving. 3) That is manipulation of the free market: I've got news for you: if unions are a manipulation of the free market then companies are abusing it just as much. A company is always united in its hiring policy, why should the workers not do the same? It's literally not a point. And if you think that it's the action actively demanding higher wage that's a manipulation of the free market, then again it applies to companies which are always actively trying to cut spendings. Finally, you're the product on this market, and the free market helps find the price where most apples are sold with the company making maximal profit. You're the apple, not the company, AND there are only a limited supply of humans to work so the free market is biased against you, unionising is just making the market closer to the actual optimum. 4) Unions are not for skilled workers and are to improve safety: says whom? A union is just a way to bargain collectively. That applies to literally anyone who could benefit from it. Also, with how terrible the working conditions are, a union does seem to be a very good idea even according to that point.
So they can take your money to give it to politicians you don’t support and make promotions based off of seniority? I know a carpenter who loved his union until he saw corrupt they can be. As a non union iron worker, I’ve never worked on any job with union carpenters that went smoothly.
@@fortyninehike I don't know how unions work in the US, but truly it cannot be worse than this anyways. If they unionised, they could finally have some leverage against their bosses. Giving a bit of money to get to industry standard (which would be a litteral tripling of their wages) will always be worth it. Also, if you're unhappy with the union you're choosing, then meet with the other union members, and hold the vote to change union. That's the point of a union: to make collective decisions. So if they're as corrupt as you describe then call them out and make the change happen. Finally, in my country there is law prohibiting unions from meddling into politics. I would assume there is the same there. At my workplace, unions negociated a deal with the management to get the wages aligned on inflation in 2022 (which was a 7% raise for everyone).
@bobing1752 in the US, unions are good for only three things: 1. Protecting members when they complain about illegal or unsafe practices (usually) 2. Driving up the cost of doing business while driving down the quality expectations, usually resulting in offshoring 3. Political bribes...I mean, advocacy
Watching those cinematic was a big part of why I chose to be a designer. Blizzard was my dream job back in 1998. I went on to work at great places but always wonder what Blizzard was like. Luckily I dint get to find out for myself but lots of people told me how much it sucked to work there.
That means your dad is a legend because cinematics are the only thing Blizzard have never failed at
They used to make good games too. The last 10 yrs or so have truly sucked the magic out of what Blizzard used to be.
@@TWLpontus Bad management can undo every effort of good workers, but somehow management is never held to the same standards as those below them.
overwatch cinematics
@@TWLpontus Exactly. Everything kinda went to shit after Starcraft 2. But they never failed at making cinematics
@@TWLpontusAbout the time the WMV turned into a pandemic.
“I went to Amazon to make a living wage” wasnt something I thought I’d hear today
Amazon tech jobs actually pay well. It’s all the other ones that suck 😂
When I had to move and needed to make money fast, Amazon paid really well. They were 5 hour shifts so they worked around my other job(I was an assistant manager at the time so that was difficult), they hired me on the spot under the condition I'd pass a drug test and they actually paid higher than I got when I was a general manager for entry level work.
I didn't think the working conditions were great, but because the first week was "training" I pretty much only worked there for 2 weeks on the floor and got the money I needed so it was worth it.
Its actually not that blizzard pays badly or amazon pays better, its that pretty much every company skimps on pay raises. So if you stay in a single place too long, they won't ever give you a raise, and you'll find out the only way to get your pay up to standard is to keep jumping from job to job. The guy working on amazon for 10 years probably earns the same thing as the guy working on blizz for 10 years, which is less than the guys who barely got there.
@@metalhev3989 Unless the industry standard rate tripled in 7 years and Blizzard *never* raised pay, Blizzard paid badly.
Bro just casually drop legendary dad lore like it was another Tuesday
Which is extract crazy because the upload date, Jan 21st 2022, was actually not a Tuesday at all
all i have to say is that Reinhardt cinematic is my all time favorite piece of gaming cinematic. literally made me cry. Bless your dad for giving us those memories.
Damn it reinhardt!
Is something that i still regularly say
I can't seem to find it, can you tell me what the cinematic is called?
@@minimushrom Honor and Glory
@@minimushrom th-cam.com/video/sQfk5HykiEk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RCcXmHi6zZi_0jQ6
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When employees leave your company and Amazon is the shining example of treating their employees right, you know you suck.
And Amazon is known for abuse... and tax breaks and screwing the poor and underemployed.
They pay their employees in Tech and IT very well apparently, it’s the grunts they don’t care about lol
@@BrodyxBrownno one cares about the grunts XD
Judging an entire companies ethos based on a few anecdotes out of millions of people over several decades is nothing more than trendy "successful company is evil" BS. It's basically just a meme that people have turned into an insane stereotype they can use to sound virtuous and socially conscious without having to do any actual mental work.
@@NautilusGuitarsExactly with me hiring people. I had ONE negative interaction with ONE person I hired versus EVERY SINGLE PERSON I HIRED AND BOOM!
Entire Godot Reddit jumping down my throat siding with the guy I hired.
You know a company is REALLY bad when Amazon treats you better as an employee.
Well you have to remember that different departments always have different cultures. I can use the warehouse job I had during my first two years of college. The people out on the factory floor were subject to what I felt was pretty horrible work conditions with nobody really caring for anyone else and management being probably the root of the problem. However, just across the wall into the warehouse our working conditions were amazing in comparison.
It was a refrigerated warehouse so that was horrible, but the people were all the difference. Everyone in the warehouse had the opinion that we all know the job sucks, the least we can do is always help eachother to make it not suck. Obviously that doesn’t speak for all warehouses or factory floors, of course, but it’s always a perspective to think about.
Amazon treats their white collar workers great lol
Badge colors make a difference.
white and blue collars get treat differently, just like market place vs web service. Everything even out to make the AVERAGE stats seemed great on paper, as well as paying zero fed taxes.
@@rovvy221they pay taxes. It's a published fact. People like Bernie sanders just claim otherwise to use the company as a whipping boy for their agenda
Wait your dad's Joeyray Hall? What a guy! That impeccable cinematics quality for so many games. Met him once, Worldwide Invitational Paris 2008, on a big screen over part of the show floor they had a reel of all the old cinematics playing, and he happened to be wandering past just as it had the intro to the Terran campaign of original Starcraft on. I sidle up and match the line as it plays: "Whatchu got for me out there Joeyray?" and then awkward thanks for many fond memories.
Your disappointment and sadness about what Blizzard could be is... we feel you, Thor.
Dude's got a killer voice
Feels a bit Howard Stern
@@67steinip “Howard is that you?” 😂
this "podcaster voice" is called vocal fry, it's a skill you can learn
No it’s not. Lol He has a clear, deep tone. Vocal fry is when you close up your vocal chords and force air through a tiny space causing a gravely, quiet, annoying character
@@nicholasriley4729 oh youre right i must have mixed up the terms, but the radio voice is definitely something you can learn
"And I got paid like a human being"
The Amazon packagers in the next room over: "is it possible to learn this power?"
Lmao they do not get paid they get a purpose.
What you want is for them to get paid and benefits like it’s a career but that will never be a career but simply a hourly job and that’s exactly how they should be paid just like any unskilled worker. If you are 30 and still unskilled hourly labor than that’s on you and shut up.
@@waynewayne9693 You are acting way uncool, sure its not a crazy job, but it needs to be done. If all those workers had better careers, you would not be getting your packages. Same goes for other "unskilled" jobs.
every job, regardless of skill, should pay a livable wage and benefits.@@waynewayne9693
@@waynewayne9693 your acting very edgy rn lmao it would be nice if amazon could treat them like human beings, im not asking for them to have 999k a year salaries but like let them use the bathroom and have breaks, i mean even the kids in ethiopia mining lithium get more breaks than amazon workers at this point
the human ending cinematic of warcraft 3 gave me the ultimate chills
You mean Arthas Betrayal? Yeah, this one and the intro to Diablo II are exceptional examples of impactful cinematic storytelling.
If the pops did the viking transition in the hots cinamatic he is one of my main inpirations for being an animator.
“ it’s a legendary company because, people put legendary amounts of effort into it. “
Damn near every company in current times
Glad you found a better employment! 💪🏾💯
ain't that the truth brother
I dont think i understand what that means. Wouldnt putting legendary amounts of effort into a company be good?
not if you dont get a reward for doing that@@m0nookiE, at least in the beginning they had the pride of shipping good games, but later not even that, they put a lot of effort on adding stuff they didn`t want in the game because they knew players would hate, but where still forced to do it
This young people don't want to put in the "Legendary" work anymore!
@@m0nookiEThe problem is that these companies make their employees work long hours for low pay on the basis that they should feel privileged to be able to work at this "legendary" company. But the reason that the company is legendary is because its employees have put in a tremendous amount of work in order to build that reputation, so making it seem like it's a favour the company has done to the workers and not the other way around is disingenuous.
You know it's bad when even fucking Amazon treats the employees better
It was the games studio and not the warehouses. Two totally different environments.
@@goldenhate6649 I still hear horror stories about people who work in their corporate offices. It's not the same type of stress obviously, but it still doesn't sound like a great place to work.
@@mowkikowski true. their corporate can't be that good if mgmt is forcing their workers return to office for arbitrary reasons and you can be fired if you dont comply
@@goldenhate6649 Yeah but theyre still owned by the same C*nt... same working conditions just a different enviroment. you are treated like a robot
@@goldenhate6649I got a young brother that works on one of the warehouses… he actually says that it’s chill enough even during Christmas days.
Pay is low (but above minimum wages enough to consider it over other easier minimum ones) and they only require him to work 20hrs a month to keep his job intact.
Not saying is the pinnacle of greatness but far from what people would imagine for an “Amazon warehouse”.
Big busy international metropolitan city we live at.
Wow, I had no idea your Dad was the cinematic director. The Blizzard cinematics from Diablo 2 blew my mind as a kid, I couldn't believe how amazing they looked. The cinematics are some of my favorite parts of the games. I remember getting excited after finishing each Act in D2 because it meant I got to watch an amazing masterpiece of visual storytelling. Props to you and your father. ❤️
yeah man, I remember Burning Crusade being released and going round to my mates to watch the intro cinematic together cos back then Blizz's cinematics were lightyears ahead.
Fun fact his dad was the inspiration for the south park wow meme
That first cinematic I seen for WOW was a big deal, that scene were it opens with that nightelf running from the orcs was so otherworldly and magical I have no doubt those cinematics alone sold millions of people on getting the game. What a GOAT holy shit
Your dads work really was one of the highlights of my childhood. Im sure he hears it often, but Im glad he did that work so I could have those memories.
I revisit the cut scenes so often it’s wild
Nothing beats Arthas🔥
@@kylewindere2133ersame still go back and watch Arthas my son
No joke, those cutscenes were what made me try the games in the first place!
Blizzard cut scenes back in the day were insane, the opening of Warcraft 3 is still one of the best things I've ever seen
The intro to WoW and especially both Starcraft games! His dad has etched out some memories for a ton of people, that's for sure!
Reminder that Bobby was one of the most highly paid CEOs in gaming.
I wonder how, hmmm
In other words, "seize the means of production comrades"?
@@SignorAde People are actually the means of production, nothing gets done without them, so you could say that totalitarian regimes did exactly that.
yeah and probably cares little for gaming, just for milking the cow for every penny he can. Whatever is not spent on the grunts, is extra for him.
@@SignorAdeand then do what? Make video games ourselves? 😂
I thank you and your dad for contributing to one of my favorite games I have ever played. Many great memories were made from your efforts.
The Overwatch cinematics are so good. I don't play, but I always come running to watch when my family players get to a cinematic
Your dad made some of the best cinematics. Thralls and Gromash vs Manoroth still sends chills up my spine 25 years later.
FRRRRRR
SERIOUSLY, I've always wondered who the people who work on those WoW cinematics are. Your father is a legendary talent.
The best thing I can say about Blizzard is they had the best game cinematics over the years. ❤
For me it doesn't get any better than WoD's cinematic. Fugitive Garrosh on the run fresh off his defeat in Siege of org hopping timelines to save his father and tell guldan to get fukt, to rebuild the iron horde to face the legion
Worst xpansion but best cinematic, by far
I can still feel that *_NOOOO!!!_* to this day
The dude who can say "my dad worked at blizzard" and meant it.
Lmfaooooo
Nepotism at its finest
@@michaelbranchini9133If u r serious i’m worried
@@michaelbranchini9133in his case it’s different blizzard makes a TON of live service games, he sold his son to modern day slavery.
@@sosa8549 yeah i could totally see it happening, pulled some strings and they welcomed him because he is the son of the director. good for him that he left though, all in all, it made his resume to be impressive enough to be accepted into just about any related company.
not to say that blizzard have any high standards however, them paying for less indicates that they would take in any manpower for less
Your dad is a fuckin legend dude 🎉
I remember watching all those cinematics and they were always above all other games, dofferent fucking level.
Kudos to his dad ❤
I loved the cinematics on Warcraft II & III
Blizzard must’ve been total ass to make him say Amazon was an improvement
There's probably a difference between how Amazon e-commerce is run versus Amazon Game Studios
Amazon pays tech workers very well. They're the highest paying large company for many product mgr / software engineer type jobs.
@@bocelottwell of course they do the expectation level is way up there. Just because you pay someone doesn't mean they will always stick around. Sometimes the money simply isn't worth it.
Not only that, but the fact that he’s a relative to the director of cinematics, and they still treated him like crap, says a lot about them.
Amazon's dev teams are very well paid, in my country they pay as good as Microsoft or Googl e
If only morning radio was still a thing this guy would be a billionaire.
Just realizing how much he sounds like Howard Stern
Morning radio is still a thing just no one under the age of 50 listens to it lol
Yes...like all of the OTHER billionaire radio hosts out there lol The hell does that even mean? XD
@@vaevictusdeus My god replies in comments these days just make me sad. You can’t be a functioning human and be this stupid.
@@vaevictusdeus He's saying thor's voice is nice.
Honestly one of the most down to earth, smart people I’ve seen.. it’s crazy.
Trailer for the Lich King is still something that lives rent-free in my head. Your dad is a hell of a director.
PLEASE tell me you got to drop the “oh yeah well my dad works for Blizzard…” line in game at some point lol.
It's the "my uncle works for Nintendo" kid but he's not lying. 😆
Telamon is my dad
@@DrakeOolaI cant tell if this is an extremely outdated roblox joke or not
@@palmberry5576dude i think it is, that shit was crazy
My dad owns Microsoft and he'll ban you! 😡
My dad worked for this company for 35 years and I have worked there for 5 years. Every time we talk about our experience, it's vastly different.
It's because times have changed.
35 years ago? 1988
We had just won the cold war within the past decade, shooting the US dollar into the stratosphere as the US becomes the only superpower in the world
It was easy to pay you a good wage for your job in the 80s no matter what you did, and that effect steamrolled into the 90s
@@greenbean4422Odd because wages are out of control. I'm driving through states where the minimum wage is under $8/hr and Burger King have signs out offering $17/hr and nobody wants it...
@@trevordwyer5638 that's not true that no one wants it. I worked at a few fast food places and they always had their signs up even when they were not hiring.
@@greenbean4422 you can make that argument. However my argument is that since the 80's most corporations have outsourced their manufacturing to other countries, increasing the profit margin. Unless you work at a rare company, most of that gain went to the executives. The company I work for, my dad works for, has expanded exponentially in the past 20 years, becoming a global presence. The amount of money they waste now is incomprehensible, hundreds of thousands of wasted products every quarter. This is not my lone opinion, my dad also agrees that the company has been more limiting on what bonuses and benefits they give. They cut our cafe funding, holiday bonuses and incentives, while the executives enjoyed a 600% increase in pay during covid.
Its happening throughout the US, and it's only getting worse. With how universities are separating the rich from the poor.
There are countries that keep public schools well funded and equal, so the rich in those countries attend them, and the kids learn the experiences from others struggles, and have some of the most beneficial company policies because of it. So really, the greed in the US companies can be attributed to the large separation between private education vs our public education.
That and the incredibly individualistic views that the US has now vs back in the 60s.
@@greenbean4422 Moreso its because Blizzard went through intense management changes after it became part of Activision, which radically changed the entire culture of the company.
Holy crap i knew that your dad worked for blizzard but to be the cutscene director? Are you kidding me? My friends and i would spend so long watching those over and over again i still check them out every once in a while because they are so good. So many iconic shots and lines and things that made my childhood. I can not thank your dad and his team enough. Man was obviously had passion and he’s passed that on to you. So keen to see more from you Thor!
Mad props to your pops.
I never much liked Blizzard's products yet, the cinemarics always captured my attention (and awe).
The count on the fact that employees are proud to be part of such an historical company. They feel like you owe them for letting you work for them.
True, and ironically this foolishness all but guarantees a future degradation of quality that will eventually undermine that legacy-perhaps to the point of complete failure.
@@hopefulpellinore5490 it's because big corporations underestimate the artistic value of videogames. Look at how Wolkswagen behaved with Lamborghini and Fiat with Ferrari: unlike EA that gutted the studios they acquired just to improve the profits on the short term, Fiat and Wolkswagen p left them intact, and give them the resources needed to do their work, even if it meant losing money for a few years, which allowed both Lamborghini and Ferrari to become extremley profitable. As it turns out, american corporations simply aren't capable to manage prestige brands.
This happens outside of the gaming industry even, just look into how SpaceX treats its employees.
The other thing that "incentivizes" them to do this is that it does actually look good on a resume to have these companies because of how reputed they are. I don't know if that really holds true for Blizzard anymore after all the lawsuits, but for similar companies, you can go into it knowing it'll suck and you'll at least have a nice bit of leverage to hopping onto another job because recruiters and algorithms see, "Ooh big company!"
@@mozzjones6943 the problem with many american corporations is the composition of their shareholder boards, too many investors without any of them having a majority share, wich means the corporation is run by the CEO with the only goal of always increasing the dividends.
That's the culture of American corporations
Man was indeed a legend. Made our childhoods amazing. I always loved warcraft cutscenes bcs they always felt ahead of its time, it was like watching a movie. Best dad man
As a gamer I want to say thank you for all the work you, your dad as well, put into those games, in hindsight the Duran/Narud thing should have told me how cracked the working condition were ... At that time I was thinking it is an coincidence or even an reference to Kojima's "body snatcher", the Rrandom Hajile / Elijah Modnar" thing ...
This showed up as recommended to me under the original WoW trailer.
Thank your dad for creating the best game cinematics ever. I’ve been going back and rewatching all the trailers in preps for TWW and that’s so awesome to hear. Your dad is awesome at what he did
The original starcraft cinematics were so good they were one of the key reasons for me buying and enjoying that game. Your dad is a legendary man :)
Cool
The cinematics your dad worked on give me a shiver to this day. They were so above other cinematics that I sometimes rewatched them from time to time, a thing I think I never have ever done with other game cinematics
I agree the Blizzard ones are legendary, but come on you never re-watched the openings to old Squaresoft games? Final Fantasy VIII and Parasite Eve particularly stand out in my memory. Capcom and Eidos tended to have great stuff for their time as well. I'm talking about that golden age of cinematics from around 1995-2005. So the cinematics era to me is from the start of the 32 bit disc based era to the launch of 7th Gen consoles with the Xbox 360, which is shortly after World of Warcraft.
I will say though, those cinematics on Warcraft III and early WoW stuff were so far beyond what anyone else was doing at the time. They're impressive enough to hold up today in some parts.
@@dwatts64 Damn right mate!
I think the worst part is they can easily get away with those conditions to make profit. There's a massive line of people that would kill to work for them, meaning if someone asks for more they just toss them out and grab the next schlub in line.
The opening cinematic for warcraft 3 that your dad likely worked on was one of my favorite moments from gaming.
"I work at amazon and get paid a human wage"
Wild thing to hear
"Best we can do is stolen breast milk"
It think you mean “The breast we can do…” 😏
@@tc2241cringe
You're a couple years late on the joke, but good effort.
@@FlynnApollo it's never too late to make fun of blizzard for that
thats a W tho
All them years and you never once thought about doing a voice-over for a character 🤣🤣 I need you in an animation dude 💯
I had a similar feeling when I, as a chef, was put in the tip pool. Instantly I felt my effort went from a burden to a pleasure. ❤
The fact that amazon treats their game devs better than their warehouse employees is insane. My friend works in one of their warehouses and she had to FIGHT them to get workers comp when she got injured on the job. During training and initial tour of the warehouse you are reminded frequently that you are replaceable if you dont make your quotas. Among many other issues...
Man I am eternally greatful I have a profession where my skills are in demand enough, that even though sometimes treated like crap, I still know they need me more than I need them.
EDIT: Combined with being a member of a relatively strong public services union.
I mean tbf he has some extremely valuable skills and a lot of evidence from his previous occupation at blizzard so obviously they would treat him better
My nephew was a lead dev on an Amazon project and he said working conditions were great and so were the incentives. I think he'd still be there if Google didn't offer him an even sweeter deal. I was also surprised because I've read so much about how shit they treat their warehouse staff. Amazon is notorious for being one of the worst employers
office workers in general are very privileged
and suddenly I'm thankful I didn't pass the online entrance exam
But "its a family."
If it's a family then it's one that isn't getting any Christmas cards lemme tell ya.
@@PirateSoftwarethink it'll get better under Microsoft?
@@PirateSoftwarethatll show em!
Yet between him and his father put in 30 years. This dude is full of crap
Well, seeing how they are taking their employees for granted, want to milk them for every second of their time and not pay them adequately, I'd say that it definitely looks like working for family XD
THE STARCRAFT 2 CINEMATICS ARE LEGENDARY PLEASE TELL ME HE WORKED ON THEM
I'm pretty sure they will just be melted down into a cinematic company in the near future, one that provides cut scenes for other games. It's all they're good at now
Your dad single-handedly sold me on every single thing I ever bought from blizzard. Good lord he should be a movie director; the StarCraft 2 cutscenes gave me chills down my spine SO many times.
I feel like there may have been more than one person’s hands involved
@@Zealant But his dad was the DIRECTOR. Which means he DIRECTED the story, narration, setting, visuals, etc. Basically put the puzzle pieces together to make the cinematics.
@@Zealant True but yeah as the person above me wrote, Director is in charge of it, if cinematic failed then everyone would have pointed fingers at him.
@@mystrre3553It's not quite that as a role in the industry, Director of Cinematics is the one in charge of the department and tends to be the one in meetings discussing the needs, expectations, standards of their departments, tool requests (and sometimes the more tricky, challenging things that need multi departments to agree)
Doesn't take anything away from his role, it's just that it's not the same as say a Director on a film - it's more like a head of department
I mean he did greater work than being a movie director arguably by pioneering a new field and settings industry standards. He is also more famous than most due to the stories still being told about him by highly influential people and by being the antagonist in one of the biggest South Park episodes ever. Kindof a legend.
Your dad is an absolute legend, as soon as you said cinematics, i just got a flashback to masterpieces of WC3. Cant think of my childhood without them
if only we all had dads who could hand us jobs.
Dude, mannoroth slithering and chucking still is burned into my brain. I'd put the cinematic dvd on the tv too watch them lol
Ive watched the cinematics so many times they are so damn good no game has EVER to this day EVER made a cinematic as good as any of the WoW cinematics up to Wotlk i can't speak for anything after lich king though because i quit playing after that
Randomly saw this dude on my shorts and I been subscribed ever since ❤
shout out your dad for all the amazing memories, it was like dreaming the game before they had the gfx they had. such memories, honestly so happy i can say thank you.
have a radio voice and talk shit about blizzard = guaranteed youtube success
Your dad was a god at his job
The fact they probably underpaid him too is absolutely INSANE
I don't think every rung of the corporate ladder is underpaid. I doubt the CEO is underpaid. Directors may or may not be high enough, but they're definitely upper management.
Nah, he was just a human being who had talent give. To him by the one true God. People like you are the worst.
Your had has had in hands in cutscenes that we had to study for class.
Truly impeccable the Wrath of The Lich King will always be my favorite expansion and I think it has some of the coolest cutscenes ever in any video game I've ever seen.
Dude tell your dad thank you. Enjoying those cinematic with my dad and little brother (my dad was a gamer his whole life) are some of my fondest memories.
Damn, not even nepotism could give you a good deal
init, when your dad is that senior in terms of game development and your experience STILL fuckin sucks... oof.
I thought that instantly 😭
brilliant comment
Nepotism is likely the reason why he kept that low wage.
He was daddy's boy, got in via daddy and then just stayed that way.
@@miriamweller812 lotta assuming going on here.
You know it's bad when Amazon pays better than Blizzard.
Amazon tech is way different than Amazon retail in terms of quality and pay. How do you think they were able to say that when looking for new headquarters the median salary would be 6 figures and 1000s of them?
Amazon tech side is considered part of the big 4 bc it pays above average wages
They pay okay. Their vesting schedule is pretty crazy and they usually pay lower than median.
I heard that they payed decent, but the working hours were extramly bad (mainly in th warehouses)
Developers/Engineers at Amazon have tremendous salaries, even without the vesting portion considered. My signing bonus alone was >$50k.
Love overwatch, wasnt my childhood game but thankyou to your dad and yourself for helping in making some of the best years of my life, and your dads south park character was awsome, i knew who it was as soon as i seen him, you guys are legends, got bless and god speed
Epic Games in Pennslyvania were trying to hire senior devs for fucking $70k six years ago so I can't imagine Blizzard was trying any harder lol
hearing amzon pay someone ''like a human being'' feels like i'm in an alt universe episode of Fringe
Ugh such a good show...
@@UltimateEnd0 Right!? I loved that show too.
As a former Amazon employee, I will say they actually did pay you (if you were a direct employee and not a contractor) higher than most that did similar work in the area, plus some extra benefits that others didn't get (like free dental and eye coverage automatically even for part time employees.)
Now, I wouldn't call that "paid like a human" but the problem is that no one was being paid like a human anywhere. Amazon just had to pay better and provide better benefits than everyone else nearby. The problem came in when peak season ended (I was in the shipping warehouse) and they had to get rid of excess employees.
As for the work, the facility I was at was allowed to be more autonomous and therefore had pretty decent working conditions because what we were doing was experimental, but as our facility and other facilities like ours matured our processes, Amazon's corporate started to get more and more strict which made conditions worse slowly over time.
That being said, I have since worked in places that are much worse than the Amazon facilities are and I can't believe they don't get more attention. Warehouse work SUCKS. Amazon is bad and absolutely deserves the negative attention it gets, but companies like Geodis and XPO deserve that same attention if not more.
Right now a lot of the attention is on Amazon's contracted drivers, and having worked directly with both the truckers and the last mile delivery drivers and found they were getting screwed pretty hard by ridiculous time demands and low pay. The problem is that the market was oversaturated with drivers and the employers that paid well didn't need help because everyone flocked to them first.
Basically, if Amazon needs more of something, they will pay well and offer decent benefits. If it's something they think they can get without trying, they will be the most bottom of the barrel negotiators you will ever meet. Since truckers are more in demand they've been training their own (I left when they were piloting this program in 2018 and 2019) as well as trying to be better with contracted short haul and OTR drivers, but they still treat their last mile contractors like crap.
EDIT: Oh yeah. Some definitions since I realized they're a bit esoteric. Last Mile drivers are your delivery guys. They're the ones that drive up and deliver the package to your door. Short haul drivers are truckers that make short, usually 1-4 hour trips one way to deliver a trailer full of stuff. OTR, AKA Long-Haul are the ones you see in the big sleeper tractors. Their hauls will take 5 hours or longer one way.
The thing is, the complaints about Amazon usually aren't usually about the pay, but the working conditions. Of that, the place where the complaints come from is the Delivery Warehouses.
He's not mentioning any numbers
It's a legendary company because of the legendary devs and efforts they put in over 20 years ago. Most things in the last 10-15 years have sucked hard.
Right he was part of the problem maybe they can hired someone better lol
@@ogjuggalo4671 It's management. Heroes of the Storm failed, StarCraft died, OW's reputation died in 2, not 1, Diablo was fine during his time working there, they started heavily Fing up later a lot, etc. During his time there, he, like most devs, was constantly ignored on things he was right on the money about later.
It's management and greed.
Thats an L take my man. The devs are working just as hard, but the leadership was terrible and it caught up to them.
@@XSpiegel Nah. More than half of them are just DEI hires who were brought on to fill a quota and not because they're actually good at their job. Another quarter just suck or are mediocre at best. And the final amount are truly talented but there isn't enough of them to make actual good games. And yes 90% of leadership sucks. That doesn't give the devs a pass though.
@@red5standingby419 as soon as you said "dei" your entire argument fucking crumbled like a kkkookie
Your dad is a fucking legend mate. Cinematics played a huge part in Blizzard's experience
Bless your dad (and you - and the rest of the team ofc) for the stellar outcomes of old school Blizzard. Mad love for their former works. All the best brother, stay awesome
I used to dream of working on wow at blizzard, so glad that never happened 😂
Same. I applied to work there back in 2010. I would've had to move across the country, but I was ready too had I got the job. After hearing so many of these horror stories of working for them, I'm glad it didn't happen.
You learn a lot while being there. I left after 6 years when it was very apparent they wouldn't promote me but had no issues promoting other people ahead of me. Now I almost make triple what I made there.
I agree! but when i visited the company I saw what it devolved to.
@@shrugrug7172 big yikes
@@shrugrug7172 You probably did the work of 3 people which would cost them more to promote and retrain multiple people to replace you.
He's using Gamemaker Studio like an absolute legend
Heck yeah!
Godot is better
Game maker is awesome, it's what I learned on
Aw how cute, your daddy got you a job at Blizzard. That is so sweet.
@dntakemesrs you obviously dunno how good this guy is at hacking and cybersec lmao
Omg. The cinematics are usually the most amazing things on wow. Kudos to your father!
Honestly 7 years is WILD. I know you were probably wanting to learn and gain the experience, but holy cow that's years of your life knowing you're getting the shaft harder than an off-shore oil rig.
Your dad was part of the reason for those amazing cinematics. Amazing
I always want to avoid the companies that make a lot of excess profit. Chances are, they make that money out of cutting your paycheck.
Every company makes profit by stealing from its customers and employees. End capitalism.
Capitalism
Valve has entered the chat
That's the name of the game in the modern day, big corporations consider having to pay their employees a loss of profit and they try to slash it as much as they think they can get away with. Government regulation is the only reason they aren't paying us in cheap food and cages to live in on company property.
They make that money by sucking the joy and inspirations out of their developers, forcing them to prioritize monetization over anything else.
The WotLK opening cinematic was one of the most hype things I saw as a kid, my uncle and aunt were big players at the time and I remember seeing that and saying "I WANNA PLAY THAT GAME"
Thank you and your dad for your work. One of the highlights growing up
The Diablo 2 opening cinematic still kicks ASS to this day.
I remember being like 6/7 years old thinking that the cinematics in d2 were real people acting
The Starcraft/Broodwar cinematics is the best ones ive seen in terms of pure atmosphere.
The detonation of the science vessel, the lonely zealot vs zerg in the greco-roman setting, also the final voyage of Gantrithor with Tassadar.. I will never forget them, a big cultural part of my childhood
"Thank gawd for cold fusion!"
This dulcet tones of this dude's voice. Could listen to him reading the phone book.
Blizzard used to be the dream for me as a network engineer. I had my chance too. I interviewed with blizzard for 6 months…. I had roughly 8 different interviews that went on for several hours with multiple rounds of people. In the end they ghosted me. I called them up wondering what happened and their answer was, “oh, sorry. That position was removed because of budget….” Biggest waste of time. They can suck it.
What the f
8 Interviews is absolutely criminal
Yep. I think some large companies tend to behave that way for the interview process. Exact same thing happened to me over 6 months and countless rounds of interviews for Bass Pro Shops. (hilariously different industry but I'm a web designer)
absolutely deplorable
they flew me out and interview me alllllllll day for a very low paying game design job then ghosted me
I think I met your dad once! It was the very first BlizzCon and my girlfriends dad worked in video production and was able to get us tickets and even got us back stage where I met a few old school Blizzard employees and one was someone who edited cinematics for StarCraft and others, he said he'd worked on every one of them which makes me think it was your dad based on your story. Was amazing to meet legendary old school Blizzard employees. We got to test Ghost before it was scrapped and test Burning Crusade prior to release. Great event, great people. I miss that era of Blizzard :(
What is ghost
@@taintwasher3703 it was gonna be another starcraft game, but wasnt gonna be an RTS, but more like a TPS (tho i dont know much about how the gameplay was supposed be). However, the proyect got scrapped and the game never released.
@@taintwasher3703 A shooter set in the SC universe which was stuck in development hell for so long that it began as an N64 game and died as a GameCube game and never made it to a finished product lol
Nothing will ever be more nostalgic to me than the opening of Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos. Thank him for me if you think about it.
Diablo cinematics have been some of the best I've ever seen in my life. Kudos to your dad!
Meanwhile the CEO of Blizzard gets a 375 million dollar bonus
New to capitalism? You people vote for it in great majority every single time, so you clearly must love it.
@@miriamweller812new to voting commie?
@@miriamweller812 Of course we do, capitalism is the greatest economic system that has ever existed in human history. That doesn't mean it's perfect, it has a lot of issues, this is one of them. Comunism on the other hand is proven to just lead to famine and poverty. Voting for comunism or any other system because of capislism's failures is dumb af. You gotta vote for what you believe will fix capitalism's failures.Also, you probably don't know what capitalism is, most people get it wrong.
@@miriamweller812yup I love the thing that has brought more people out of poverty than anything else.
@@andrewpyrah😂😂😂😂😂 best comment ever.
This is indeed why we should NOT glorify companies that treat their employees like shit
I've boycott Blizzard since China made them screw over the hearthstone dude.
Except he never actually sites any real reason why "it sucks" to work for Blizzard... weird I say, but sure believe anyone who complains as if their word and lack of evidence is golden
@@Saldivinorumhe literally said the reasons why it sucked for him… why are you so quick to doubt someone talking bad about a big company? Your comment reads like you got triggered by the video and instantly and hurriedly typed this comment up
@@sci-figameguy8241Exactly.
Now lets not get hasty. They make bad games AND treat their employees like shit. If they went back to making good games , most people would be chill.
Born in 1995, worked on Vanilla WoW which was released in 2004 (not to mention the development up to release), he was AT MINIMUM 9 years of age working on vanilla WoW. Working conditions at Blizzard are severely underestimated.
The blizzard cinematics were so cool when i was a kid, stilll are. Your dad is a legend.
Blizzard cut scenes are untouchable to this day. your dad is a fucking legend.
Poor Blizzard doesn’t have enough money to pay their employees a fair wage. Maybe they should charge more for skins in their games? I don’t think $25 is cutting it.
We really need to be more considerate of Blizzard, they're just a small billion dollar mega-corporation, we can't expect them to pay the people making them those billions!
Don't forget the monthly fee. Activision was a bad idea.
Wrath of The Lich King’s cinematic will always be in my heart
Imagine how much better WOW would have been if the workers were treated well.
The cut scenes from Blizzard games was always something that stood out even way back in the day. I know there was a huge team behind him but kudos go your dad as well that truly is something legendary.
Also your voice is incredible.
Dude! Your dad directed some of the cut scenes that guided my gaming birth. Thanks so much for all the work he did.
I miss the OG Blizzard because these guys handled it like a champ. Hopefully he made the right decision to join Amazon Game Studios.
That's why i always work for small companies... Even if they can't pay enough, you know that you made the lifes of few people much better.
Either your mic is really friggin good or youve got one of the smoothest voices I've ever heard.
But on topic, I'm glad you've found a place to work that works better for you.
markiplier was the dad
Sad to hear so many companies treat their employees like crap. While the top makes all the coin.
It's like that everywhere where you been🤣🤣🤣🤣. It's cry babies like this guy who thinks he entitled and thinks he should get paid more but in Reality PC programming is dime a dozen now days and he's only bitching about blizzard NOW because of the back lash of blizzard lawsuits.
Capitalism goes brrrrr
@@kristoffer3000 Greed goes "haha" and it shouldn't.
@@kristoffer3000capitalism at least has to entice and retain willing employees.
Your central authority socialism/communism system will assign you the labor in the same seized factory and laugh as you starve on your minimal rations and imprison/shoot you if you speak up.
Instead of being a slave to mother nature and your own capability you are a slave to the systems greater need. Great job.
It fuckin sucks and it’s making game quality go downhill.
I would like to say that the cinematics in blizzard games were always my favorite parts. I'd play Warcraft 3 just to get to the cinematics. Also, the music in them was really the first time I noticed music in videogames as being more than just something in the background. Your father deserves a medal or a statue or something.
Bruh your dad was my childhood with those cinematics. massive amount of respect to your dad for them, and to you for putting up with blizzard's BS.
Your father and his department are the sole source of my the only positive things I’ve ever said about Blizzard. Godly Cinematics.
you are cringe if the cinematics are the ONLY good thing you think has come out of blizzard lmao. Stop shitting on them to just be trendy bro its fucking weird.
36% of industry standard is insanity. That's why the video games industry needs unions.
Edit: it seems that people are very passionate about unions. I'll add a few replies all at once here after getting quite a few notifications of people making the same points:
1) Unions are corrupt: just see the second reply which I wrote, I'm not doing it again. Remember: the guy was paid 1/3 of industry standard
2) Just get a new job: why? If you're just leaving the company behind you then it will hire someone else with the same terrible conditions, plus there is a chance that other companies do the same. By negociating together with other workers (which is literally what a union is), you will probably help everyone AND save you the inconvenience of switching jobs. Especially if you like it, you should try to make it worth it instead of just leaving.
3) That is manipulation of the free market: I've got news for you: if unions are a manipulation of the free market then companies are abusing it just as much. A company is always united in its hiring policy, why should the workers not do the same? It's literally not a point. And if you think that it's the action actively demanding higher wage that's a manipulation of the free market, then again it applies to companies which are always actively trying to cut spendings. Finally, you're the product on this market, and the free market helps find the price where most apples are sold with the company making maximal profit. You're the apple, not the company, AND there are only a limited supply of humans to work so the free market is biased against you, unionising is just making the market closer to the actual optimum.
4) Unions are not for skilled workers and are to improve safety: says whom? A union is just a way to bargain collectively. That applies to literally anyone who could benefit from it. Also, with how terrible the working conditions are, a union does seem to be a very good idea even according to that point.
So they can take your money to give it to politicians you don’t support and make promotions based off of seniority? I know a carpenter who loved his union until he saw corrupt they can be. As a non union iron worker, I’ve never worked on any job with union carpenters that went smoothly.
@@fortyninehike I don't know how unions work in the US, but truly it cannot be worse than this anyways. If they unionised, they could finally have some leverage against their bosses. Giving a bit of money to get to industry standard (which would be a litteral tripling of their wages) will always be worth it.
Also, if you're unhappy with the union you're choosing, then meet with the other union members, and hold the vote to change union. That's the point of a union: to make collective decisions. So if they're as corrupt as you describe then call them out and make the change happen.
Finally, in my country there is law prohibiting unions from meddling into politics. I would assume there is the same there.
At my workplace, unions negociated a deal with the management to get the wages aligned on inflation in 2022 (which was a 7% raise for everyone).
exploitation of those who would rather work in video games than other CS jobs
They'd get outsourced to Pajeets in India, like 90% of CS jobs already have.
@bobing1752 in the US, unions are good for only three things:
1. Protecting members when they complain about illegal or unsafe practices (usually)
2. Driving up the cost of doing business while driving down the quality expectations, usually resulting in offshoring
3. Political bribes...I mean, advocacy
I would LOVE to hear this guys full back story with Blizzard. I bet he has some fucking awesome stories!!!!!!!
Watching those cinematic was a big part of why I chose to be a designer. Blizzard was my dream job back in 1998. I went on to work at great places but always wonder what Blizzard was like. Luckily I dint get to find out for myself but lots of people told me how much it sucked to work there.
Omg your dad directed the Warcraft 3 intro cutscene? 😩😩 those blew my mind
yeah, warcraft 3 is a sss+ tier game and the cinematics give it the s+
Any company that has worse pay than Amazon should reconsider their existence