NHS in England drops cancer waiting time targets
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- The NHS in England is dropping six of its cancer waiting time targets - claiming the move will benefit patients.
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Instead of seeing a consultant within two weeks of an urgent referral by their GP - patients will now be offered a diagnosis, or have cancer ruled out within 28 days.
Figures show that cancer waiting times in England have consistently been well below Government targets - and oncologists have described the new plans as "deeply worrying".
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Well, you can't fail to meet your targets if there are no targets to hit 😑
Yep!
It’s a great idea isn’t it
They've used this tactic on the NHS before. They think we forget (well i don't).
In a few years times they can pull out data to fit the narrative.
Could you lobby for the NHS to buy cheap early sepsis detectors from the company VolitionRX, there was an article about that in Independent recently. The company also develops early cancers tests, and I think its the best in the market. Their cancer tests are available for dogs, but it should also be available on the NHS
NHS has been destroyed, Tories never cared about it.
Obviously didn't do enough tiktok dances.
They played a big part in it, but 10 million extra users of the service is the main reason
@@interabang people pretending this isn't the main issue, can already hear people on the left saying "Stop romanticising the past incel, people never used to be able to get help that's a myth"
There was already a 2 week wait in place for cancer patients for a reason. Dropping these targets are appaling. I’m so sorry to anyone with suspected cancer and no confirmation/urgent treatment ♥️
Im so glad that all the money we saved by leaving the EU is going to the NHS, like Boris promised us on that big red bus. I cant believe its going so well we dont even need waitng time targets anymore.
Never believe any politician. Lies, lies, lies. They are all the same….don’t think labour or lib dems will be any different. We need a change. Politicians are not the answer.
The tories wealthy friends can get private treatment and the poor just die waiting for it.
Could you lobby for the NHS to buy cheap early sepsis detectors from the company VolitionRX, there was an article about that in Independent recently. The company also develops early cancers tests, and I think its the best in the market. Their cancer tests are available for dogs, but it should also be available on the NHS
Perhaps we should try and retain doctors?
Why would they need to do that when they have plenty of Advanced Nurse Practitioners who can supposedly work at a level equivalent to that of a mid grade doctor in his/her 4th year of specialist training after 5 years of med school.
For a healthcare system to work effectively it needs people with all levels of experience. But this is a question of maximising staff numbers to meet demand now. The current state of affairs is very toxic to doctors, meaning that many are making other plans. When these doctors are gone or alienated, who will train the next generation that you mention? I worry that this situation is very damaging for the future standard of care that can be offered to patients.
@@lee9650 retain not retrain
@@jonathanbray3342 That's my point it's all about numbers now, hence we have nursing proffesionals, who are by deffinition, non-medical being pushed into the role of a Doctor.
I don't understand what are you talking about when you say, "the next generation that you mentioned"? I haven't mentioned a next generation.
@@mvashton Yes I know. Who said anything about "retrain"?
You make people wait 28 days to know whether they have cancer???
It should be 1 week max
Unfortunately sometime it takes that long. For example, in gynaecology. You have to go through a series of tests such as transvaginal ultrasound, hysteroscopy + biopsy , it takes 7 days for the biopsy results to come back. Patients will also need a MRI and a CT CAP . Then it needs to be reviewed in a MDT meeting with histopathologist and radiologist and lead consultants. Then the patients needs a BBN (best interest meeting with CNS nurse and patient to break the bad news.) then it needs to be sent for second opinion.
You can’t expect all of this to happen before the 28days . It’s not realistic for the patients as they need time to recover from the procedures. The first step : transvaginal ultrasound is tough enough. Then you need to take into account the patients are humans who are at work, children, are carers. who unfortunately can’t afford to push all of that aside. (I work in cancerservice) it’s not as easy as saying “you make people wait 28days” there’s a process that needs to be followed
Thank you Johnson and Sunak fot letting the NHS down. You can't reduce waiting times if you don't have enough staff. They don't gone work or return to the job when they aren't paid properly.
128k is the average consultant wage. The average wage in the UK is 30k.
@@catam9308And? Consultants go through an extraordinary amount of training, education and experience in order to enter a very specialized field. If they are not payed very well then they can go elsewhere
@chrysalis4126 Well it's not, a CEOs wage is not guaranteed to any worker. While junior doctors know they will get the standard doctors wages.
The average army officers wage is £28,861, the average fire man/womans's wage is £43,000, the average police officer wage is £32,000. These all are public sector workers, who are grossly under paid compared to Doctors. They also risk their lives and such as the Army and Fire Fighters have to meet high physical standards to maintain their jobs. Don't you think other public sectors workers need a pay rise?
@tabularasa7775 My point was that doctors specifically make on average 4 x mores than the average worker. It's the average workers who fund the NHS.
I very much feel other public sector workers are in great need of a pay rise, just to bring them in line with being able to afford to buy a home. Yet, the argument around pay only seems to centre around the NHS workers. 21% of doctors work part-time in the NHS. 12,000 private procedures were performed by NHS doctors last year. Around 25% of private GP appointments were taken by NHS doctors last year. A report found somewhere in the region of 45% of those appointments were by part time NHS doctors. The other 55% obviously full time. It seems our over worked and under paid doctors are managing to work privately, regardless of these hurdles. Which doesn't help our NHS. While our fire fighters usually work shift patterns of 24 hours on, 48 hours off. Or two 12 hour days on then two 12 hour nights on and then 4 days off. Often they find part time work, on those days off because they have to make more money to feed their family. But it's frowned apon to take additional work, you need approval, as tiredness can obviously negatively affect your ability to work. If you do mess up and you have a second job, you are often fired from service, simply because they will see it as your second job hindered your from completing your job role properly. Does the NHS take such a strong stance with doctors?
The Tory Plan is going smoothly 😐
And just like that the problem goes away. Then as the poor unfortunates die off, the problem solves itself. Another great way of reducing cancer number is to cut down on diagnosing them in the first place.
Will it be physician associates, ANPs, paramedics (in GP practices) and GPs "offering diagnoses" then?
So you know lots of PAs and ANPs are not adequately trained. Lots of missed and delayed diagnosis. Most basically refer if disease ain’t basic.
@@melie07052 Well indeed! But at least trust senior managers (£££), ICBs, NHS England and Whitehall will be able to say "patients have be diagnosed" and sleep soundly.
All targets will be hit if the referrals all end up in the referrals black hole. Waited 18 months via a referral only to be told that there's no record of it even though I still had the doctors text on my phone, so they put in another referral which starts again on the date it's sent from the doctors.
No GP surgeries in my area are any good, you can’t go out of your catchment area so we have no choice, I can’t even get told about the blood test I had a month ago.
i like how the hospital sends info to my gp for prescriptions but the gp never follow up on it. so when i have my 3 month review i say 'what meds?' xD
GP surgeries what's that? Might aswell be called ANP surgeries.
Better boot up the hospices then, again domino’s. Not a fix.
This is a national scandal . If my wife had not had the two week seen by date she would not be here today . This is just a disgrace .
Heres your comparison for 2023. My parents had to go to an NHS A and E waiting room last month, my Dads elbow was broken. They had to wait 8 hours to be seen, and one Pakistani girl had been there for 23 hours. Yesterday i had to go to Spanish NHS equivalent A and E as i had a bad facial injury. I parked in the free underground car park, half empty, walked into a spotless empty reception, was put in a wheelchair immediately, taken to 2 nurses, they took my blood pressure, processed me, then into an english speaking doctor, who dressed my wounds, sent me to the xray room to check my head, hands and knees. i was taken everywhere in a wheelchair, xays done in 5 minutes, results sent in 5 minutes. Wheeled straight back to doctor who prescribed me pills. I was in and out in 45 mins.
My stage 3 ovarian cancer was treated quicky, thankfully. I am in the US and it was April 2020.
Look, we are talking about the NHS here, not about healthcare in general. Like the US, the UK has plenty of private healthcare facilities where you can get exactly the same level of care as in the US, if you have the money for private insurance of course. Im glad you are feeling well though, but the US of course notoriously has the most expensive healthcare in the world, which is one of the causes that US life expectancy is 3 years lower than that of the UK, and even 7 than that of Japan, at only 77 years.
@@ageoflove1980 England's is getting rapidly worse.
Yeah bcoz they being diagnosed at stage 4 they were neglected by gps, and just passing them to pallative care. I work in nhs and so many many many patients are coming allready progressed and stage 4 now sadly.
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Well done UK!
People, thousands of people are going to die, unnecessarily, simply as a result of the government, it’s intransigence, it’s greed, but above all [and in common with thatcher] their utter contempt for anyone who doesn’t have their means, identical psychopathic ideological beliefs, but above all, this is due to their utter lack of empathy or any shred of human compassion.
The fact that a key plank of their manifesto is to seek to terrorise people in effect ::doing precisely what their parents did:: and now they want to deny people in the same predicament the lifeline they benefited from speaks to the character of these people.
I wouldn’t trust braverman or sunak as far as I could throw them to the extent I’d be worried to leave them in a room with anyone dear to me for fear of what they’d do or say.
If you can’t beat ‘em, drop ‘em.
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Discusting ! You wouldn't have to wait in Turkey..
Shocking and all the symptoms of a new very inexperienced Health Secretary in the role for a very short period of time hopefully
Good morning🙏
good title
its nice you keep adding the thought of the word (cancer) to my life just incase i may forget it exists and disappears has a problem to think in to existence so thanks for that il worry about it now and bring into being 😢 no i won't do dont advertise to me what no 1 wants
If it makes you feel any better, you cannot think a terminal disease into existence, unless you're a masochistic wizard.
Do not comply. No to vaccine passports, no to mandatory vaccines. No to masks, no to tests, a total disgrace
Really standing up to them there mate
You are back! Still banging on about something that ended years ago I see.
NHS don't give a f.
GO PRIVATE GUYS. Put money aside. The NHS has failed. Go private, it could save your life. Go private, and vote the scum out.
You have to go through the GP first to get checked out by private health care, and they won't aid in previously known condition.
Do not let the Welsh and Scottish use the English NHS unless they pay this is why we don’t want labour in government.
The literal Conservative Health Secretary is letting this happen you absolute plumb.
Nur noch AfD! Greetings from Germany!
Funeral directors are laughing all the way to the bank.
And it's got nothing to do with migrants but every thing to do with Torys
When it's privatised only the rich will get seen. End of for working class. In America they sell there homes to pay the bills. That's why there so many homeless. Same coming to UK.
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