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Great work! Wish this existed when I removed the oil pan for the timing chain service. It on the list of mods to install when I swap out rod bearings (an FCP Euro video on in-car N20 rod bearing replacement would really help!). Keep up the good work and continuing to champion the N20!
Question. Wasn’t the baffle in before the engine failed? I recall you guys discussion that the extra horsepower pulls oil away from the bearings at full tilt which precipitated the failure. I’m glad you guys are doing 4cyl content! Do more B48 next!
Good eye! That's correct! When we dissected the previous engine we found that only the #3 rod bearing had spun - with the remaining bearings still in usable shape. No other components showed any signs of oil starvation. And, after seeing a chunk missing out of the melty-top of the #3 piston, as well as some assertive feedback from the community on our tune, we're very aware that we were pushing an off-the-shelf tune too hard, and asking for pre-ignition to cause damage. Gareth saw another N20 within the community experience a similar failure recently as well, failing only on the #3 rod bearing. We suspect that this is one of the most difficult parts of the engine to heat-manage, and when pre-ignition begins to occur, it likely happens in the #3 cylinder first. This is a great case for both a custom tune, and running something like an E30 mixture to extract more heat from combustion with the additional fuel-mass. We'd love to do more testing on larger tracks like COTA, and give the community more data on BMWs at the limit.
@@AlexNelsonFCPEurothe baffle was surely in the initial engine construction so in my opinion the oil pressure was not the case for its destruction. What about trying to find ways to reduce the incoming air temperature which in many engineers opinions is the engjne's biggest drawback?
The baffle was surely in the initial engine, but that didn't stop the destruction. From what I have read the engjne's Achille's heel is the incoming air temperature. What about trying to lower it?
I wanted to ask about this too since the design of the xdrive models doesn't suffer from this movement of oil on g forces due to the area the axle takes. but a response from FCP Euro will be great.
Great question! We did not design one for xDrive vehicles, as the xDrive oil pans do not feature a completely open front like the RWD pans do - keeping the pickup much more consistently submerged. However, the side-to-side movement may still be an issue, so maybe we should design a smaller version for that pan as well!
The N55 oil starvation issue can be tackled pretty well by doing the S55 oil scavenging system upgrade! www.fcpeuro.com/blog/bmws-s55-oil-scavenging-system-the-ultimate-n55-performance-upgrade
Nice job! Does slightly over filling with slightly higher than stock viscosity oil help with the oil pressure stability as well? Thinking 4.9 - 5L 5w30 vs. the recommended 0w20.
Also considering such a baffle for the N55? This could prevent rod bearing issues. Edit: I see you already sell the MMR solution. It's much more expensive though.
I would prefer Gareth by himself. I'm sure the other guy knows his shit, but too much salesman. If you guys want to be real G's, post the oil pressure vs G graphs so we can determine what "half a G" more and 8/10ths really means and definitively see extended period high g corners, etc.
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All i heard was fcp making there own in house parts LETS GO! hats off guys this is sick
Excited to start to dig in here!
Great work! Wish this existed when I removed the oil pan for the timing chain service. It on the list of mods to install when I swap out rod bearings (an FCP Euro video on in-car N20 rod bearing replacement would really help!). Keep up the good work and continuing to champion the N20!
We'll have to add Rod Bearings to the list - maybe next oil change you can tackle it 😅
Well Done! N20 is not to be underestimated!
CONGRATULATIONS Nicely Done you guy's keep up the good work, am looking forward to seeing more performance product.🙏🙏🙏
We are excited for more!
In Alex Nelson we trust 🙌 that guy is the best
PLEASE make classic BMW performance parts that would be huge, Like a comprehensive 24v swap kit for a E30.
Incredible!
We love these videos
Something to point out is that the drops would be much more severe on the modified car without baffle with the added traction and increased G forces.
Outstanding 😎
Question. Wasn’t the baffle in before the engine failed? I recall you guys discussion that the extra horsepower pulls oil away from the bearings at full tilt which precipitated the failure. I’m glad you guys are doing 4cyl content! Do more B48 next!
Good eye! That's correct! When we dissected the previous engine we found that only the #3 rod bearing had spun - with the remaining bearings still in usable shape. No other components showed any signs of oil starvation. And, after seeing a chunk missing out of the melty-top of the #3 piston, as well as some assertive feedback from the community on our tune, we're very aware that we were pushing an off-the-shelf tune too hard, and asking for pre-ignition to cause damage. Gareth saw another N20 within the community experience a similar failure recently as well, failing only on the #3 rod bearing. We suspect that this is one of the most difficult parts of the engine to heat-manage, and when pre-ignition begins to occur, it likely happens in the #3 cylinder first. This is a great case for both a custom tune, and running something like an E30 mixture to extract more heat from combustion with the additional fuel-mass. We'd love to do more testing on larger tracks like COTA, and give the community more data on BMWs at the limit.
@@AlexNelsonFCPEurothe baffle was surely in the initial engine construction so in my opinion the oil pressure was not the case for its destruction. What about trying to find ways to reduce the incoming air temperature which in many engineers opinions is the engjne's biggest drawback?
Make one for e-series n55 ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Wow, one of these for e-chassis n5x cars would sell like hotcakes!
The baffle was surely in the initial engine, but that didn't stop the destruction. From what I have read the engjne's Achille's heel is the incoming air temperature. What about trying to lower it?
Did you consider making the baffle plate for the xdrive as well?
I wanted to ask about this too since the design of the xdrive models doesn't suffer from this movement of oil on g forces due to the area the axle takes.
but a response from FCP Euro will be great.
Great question! We did not design one for xDrive vehicles, as the xDrive oil pans do not feature a completely open front like the RWD pans do - keeping the pickup much more consistently submerged. However, the side-to-side movement may still be an issue, so maybe we should design a smaller version for that pan as well!
Ok now I wanna see y’all do this with a 435i
The N55 oil starvation issue can be tackled pretty well by doing the S55 oil scavenging system upgrade!
www.fcpeuro.com/blog/bmws-s55-oil-scavenging-system-the-ultimate-n55-performance-upgrade
just buy an S55 oil pan
Love this!!! Too bad I just made the move from my 228i to an e90 N52...
What's the diff situation on this car??
Very very top People
Nice👍
Nice job! Does slightly over filling with slightly higher than stock viscosity oil help with the oil pressure stability as well? Thinking 4.9 - 5L 5w30 vs. the recommended 0w20.
Okay, N55 baffle next???
Alex has a real "DJ Stretch Armstrong" quality about him
🎶🎶🎶🎶
I’m really concerned mines has got as I’ve beat on it with grippy tires for a hot minute now
🙏we hope not
guys does your baffel work with the plastic sump pan
Yep! It's designed to clear both the OEM plastic and URO upgraded pans for RWD applications.
fantastic I'll need one shipping to the uk
Does B48 has the same problem?
I wish you guys would Ship world wide.
Hello! We do ship internationally. If you would like to check shipping options to your country, you can reach out to our service team!
@@fcpeuro-mediayou need a branch in canada
Also considering such a baffle for the N55? This could prevent rod bearing issues.
Edit: I see you already sell the MMR solution. It's much more expensive though.
Cheaper than the S55 oiling system upgrade. 😊
@KM-ol5bs True. I might consider it. But I'm not tracking/drifting/dragging mine.
Sir i want that, but i live in indonesia shipping tax is crazy 😢
I would prefer Gareth by himself. I'm sure the other guy knows his shit, but too much salesman. If you guys want to be real G's, post the oil pressure vs G graphs so we can determine what "half a G" more and 8/10ths really means and definitively see extended period high g corners, etc.