Agree 100%. Back in the day when memory and other resources were expensive or didn't exist and 4mhz was considered extremely fast (the C64 only had 1mhz), system designers figured out all kinds of ways to get the most bang for their buck. These clever tricks are what gave those old systems (e.g C64, Sinclair ZX Spectrum, Atari 8 bit etc) their personalities. Modern systems have so much power and RAM is so cheap that they all start looking the same. They even have the same output and color capabilities. No one stands out.
Ever 8bits has more personality than a PC because the PC has been brough in to turn its users into clone: socialism at work. Watch Yuri bezmenov videos and see PC origin video at Boca Raton and you will understand the trick: the PC is a mind molding and taming machine as its users all 'think' the same: like bureaucrats.
I used to have a file called Foghat that when loaded and run, would play a crystal clear loop of lines from a song, "Slow ride, take it easy." It was the clearest digital sample I ever heard on the C64.
I digitized a few Van Halen songs back in the day and put them on BBS's. I don't think I did that song though, I remember doing "Girl, you really got me now" and "Jump"
Here I am with an Alienware area51 gaming laptop over 2,000,000 times more powerful and yet I can appreciate these oldies but goodies! My first real computer was an original commodore. It had a screen, keyboard and a floppy drive. It was seriously underpowered but the damn thing worked and did exactly what it was designed to do, bring a budget fully functioning 'computer' to the average joester. It worked for nearly 10 years!
Actually, it would be much less than 20 floppy disks. One disk (double-sided) is around 340 kB and this part (over 12 seconds) is less than 64 kB. So, a single floppy disk could store over 63 seconds of digital audio in this format. The 4:48 12" version requires 5 disks, at most. The ordinary 3:48 album version fits on 4 disks with ease.
I was stunned as I played TRANSFORMERS on an 64, the first Disk was only speech and pictures explaining the plot with an endless MC quality sound👍 Awesome even though the game was a steaming pile of….
They has some sound grabber/digitizer hardware back then. But of course do the memory limitation of the C64, you could only sample a short time, even that was crunched to fit in memory.
640 blocks, 254 bytes per block, single sided unless you cut a notch and flip the disk over. I can't remember whether that includes the directory track (18) or not, probably not.
@@immortalsofar5314: No, it depends on the model/kind of drive and disk being used. If it's a single side of disk for the 1541, then it's 664 blocks per side, not 640. For a 1571 (also 5.25") disk that was formatted in double-sided mode, it's one contiguous set of 1328 blocks per disk. For the 1581 (3.5", always double-sided in Commodore's case) it's 3160 blocks.
Ah those were the days. I had to smile when I spotted that "Fast Hack 'Em" label in the disk box, good times! :D Some of those demos were pretty crazy, getting the ole Commie to do things it was never thought possible to do.
This is an original C64 with an original 6581 SID. There were quite a few digital audio demos like this back in the day (though this is the only one I knew of at the time). This demo takes a full two minutes to load (I shortened that in the video), for just 13 seconds of audio. So the limitation was not the SID but the ability to get data into RAM quickly enough. I hear that with modern flash-based storage C64's can play sustained digital audio at decent quality. But with original hardware (as I used here) all you get is a few seconds of decent-but-grainy audio.
HEHE i remember not owning a diskdrive to my c64 cuz danish tax is insane and by the looks of it not getting any better any time soon cuz we danes are stupid cattle who let our politicians walk all over us i was kinda hoping for a big tidal wave sweeping us all away lol
Back in the day, within the C64 universe and when sampling was still a novelty, this was fantastic..... But in 2021 it's crap from the tap, perhaps the technique behind playing digis may be interesting though.
You stole this from the "A Pig Quest" lead developer Antonio Savona. He has a demo of it on his channel from 2018. Plus, his version sounds much, much better, but is probably higher bitrate given that he is using a cartridge instead of the internal memory of the 64.
I love how despite being crunched through the C64 and then via speakers, content ID was still able to claim the song.
LOL he's going to jail for content infringement. hah-a (jk)
He stole the program and gives no credit to Antonio Savona who first invented it on the C64.
The C64 remains the machine with the best personality. Even after all these years, no PC has ever come close to beating it.
Agree 100%. Back in the day when memory and other resources were expensive or didn't exist and 4mhz was considered extremely fast (the C64 only had 1mhz), system designers figured out all kinds of ways to get the most bang for their buck. These clever tricks are what gave those old systems (e.g C64, Sinclair ZX Spectrum, Atari 8 bit etc) their personalities. Modern systems have so much power and RAM is so cheap that they all start looking the same. They even have the same output and color capabilities. No one stands out.
Ever 8bits has more personality than a PC because the PC has been brough in to turn its users into clone: socialism at work. Watch Yuri bezmenov videos and see PC origin video at Boca Raton and you will understand the trick: the PC is a mind molding and taming machine as its users all 'think' the same: like bureaucrats.
Amiga
@@MaxCarponera I would put Amiga in that category too since RAM was still expensive and clock speeds were still in the
Just watching you shuffle through those disk's was very nostalgic
Through those disk's whats?
@@HelloKittyFanMan.those disk’s floppies, duh
@@zacharymogel9500: That doesn't even make sense, DUH.
Yeah, very nostalgic, awesome times 🎉
@@HelloKittyFanMan.”disk’s” is the contraction of “diskettes”. ;)
I remember playing Axel F on a c64 disc drive .....love it
I love My C64 ❤❤❤ FOREVER ❤❤❤
I used to have a file called Foghat that when loaded and run, would play a crystal clear loop of lines from a song, "Slow ride, take it easy." It was the clearest digital sample I ever heard on the C64.
0:32 I love that sounds from the drive, and how quickly you typed the load command ❤
I ran this very demo in 1986 or 1987. I also remember Why Can't This Be Love by Van Halen.
I digitized a few Van Halen songs back in the day and put them on BBS's. I don't think I did that song though, I remember doing "Girl, you really got me now" and "Jump"
Yep…had that one and Nu Shooz “I Can’t Wait”.
@@ChrisB... I had Runnin with the Devil that someone did back in the day
Flash 4 fantasy is the best c64 audio sample
Very authentic childhood memory, until the wedding ring appeared.
lol
At the time it came out, the MOS Technology 6581 Sound Interface Device was the most sophisticated sound hardware you could get on any home computer.
Love the AH-AH bit...🤣🤣🤣
I haven't thought about Fast Hackem in a long time. I love you have such clean looking setup.
Nostalgie !!!!👍👍👍👍
I had the opening bars of Kung Fu Fighting back in the day.
I think I had "Everyone was Kung Fu fighting" - it blew my mind. C64 was the best.
Kung Flu Fighting between 2020 and 2022
Yeah, that way what I had as well. Listened to it a million times in awe :)
worlds. entire worlds.
nice 8 bit machine, love that Sid Muic.
Okay but this is not SID audio. This was a hack how they made c64 play back a little real audio waveform.
NICE C64 set up!
I had a c64 and I had an audio file "oh susanna" I was awed how a such a simple pc could reproduce what we would call wave files now.
Here I am with an Alienware area51 gaming laptop over 2,000,000 times more powerful and yet I can appreciate these oldies but goodies!
My first real computer was an original commodore. It had a screen, keyboard and a floppy drive. It was seriously underpowered but the damn thing worked and did exactly what it was designed to do, bring a budget fully functioning 'computer' to the average joester.
It worked for nearly 10 years!
Into the Groove from Madonna was also a C64 Audio Demo.
Sounds better than the original! Is there a full 20 disk version somewhere out there?
Actually, it would be much less than 20 floppy disks. One disk (double-sided) is around 340 kB and this part (over 12 seconds) is less than 64 kB. So, a single floppy disk could store over 63 seconds of digital audio in this format. The 4:48 12" version requires 5 disks, at most. The ordinary 3:48 album version fits on 4 disks with ease.
0:53 Is what you're looking for.
exelente tu video congratulations
Nice little video, what kind of camera did you use?
Thanks! I used a Canon 70D, with a Zoom H5 with shotgun mic attachment on top.
I had a similar demo for my Atari 400 that played You Really Got Me Now by Van Halen
Got any Digital Dan loops? Final Countdown was really well done.
I was stunned as I played TRANSFORMERS on an 64, the first Disk was only speech and pictures explaining the plot with an endless MC quality sound👍 Awesome even though the game was a steaming pile of….
you can still buy the diskette and maybe game software inside it in year 2000 in small town i mean not the bigger town one sir
I did not have that one.
I remember, I had Queen - A kind of magic on a tape.
only crap part of the C64 was the wee thermal printer with broken plastic cogs
I wonder what hardware make the record on the floppy at that time ?
They has some sound grabber/digitizer hardware back then. But of course do the memory limitation of the C64, you could only sample a short time, even that was crunched to fit in memory.
🤣🤣 Super!
What is the Samplerate?
That lcd is... sub-optimal
❤ Jak podłączyłeś commodorka do monitora ❓🖐️
"AH-AH" ... wut
I had True Blue from Madonna.
I don't remember the storage size of c64 floppies. That's pretty dang impressive, how much data does that 13 seconds take?
640 blocks, 254 bytes per block, single sided unless you cut a notch and flip the disk over. I can't remember whether that includes the directory track (18) or not, probably not.
@@immortalsofar5314 162k - if my math is correct?
@@AlanTherby That sounds about right. I vaguely remember 164Kb but I may be wrong.
"That... seconds"?
@@immortalsofar5314: No, it depends on the model/kind of drive and disk being used. If it's a single side of disk for the 1541, then it's 664 blocks per side, not 640. For a 1571 (also 5.25") disk that was formatted in double-sided mode, it's one contiguous set of 1328 blocks per disk. For the 1581 (3.5", always double-sided in Commodore's case) it's 3160 blocks.
That is impressive. Have any more of this?
Eclectic - A C64 Demo by Onslaught - Winner of Flashback 2014
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Good morning. Would it be possible to post a .d64 of this music?
Sure: csdb.dk/release/index.php?id=50487
Note that it takes a full two minutes to load. (I cut most of that in the video in the interest of time.)
Ah those were the days. I had to smile when I spotted that "Fast Hack 'Em" label in the disk box, good times! :D
Some of those demos were pretty crazy, getting the ole Commie to do things it was never thought possible to do.
@@TomLokovic Thanks
Kung Fu Fighting
Everything pretty authentic, except LCD.
AH-AH ?
Its actually "a-ha" in small letters. :)
uh-uh.
What is producing this audio. That sounds too good for the SID chip. Is it really capable of audio this good?
This is an original C64 with an original 6581 SID. There were quite a few digital audio demos like this back in the day (though this is the only one I knew of at the time). This demo takes a full two minutes to load (I shortened that in the video), for just 13 seconds of audio. So the limitation was not the SID but the ability to get data into RAM quickly enough. I hear that with modern flash-based storage C64's can play sustained digital audio at decent quality. But with original hardware (as I used here) all you get is a few seconds of decent-but-grainy audio.
th-cam.com/video/BRE5VqUE4mo/w-d-xo.html you should probably check this c64 demo out :)
th-cam.com/video/PQfIS0qL5as/w-d-xo.html the full demo :)
Sound would be quite a bit better on a 8510 SID chip, still using all original hardware.
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HEHE i remember not owning a diskdrive to my c64 cuz danish tax is insane and by the looks of it not getting any better any time soon cuz we danes are stupid cattle who let our politicians walk all over us i was kinda hoping for a big tidal wave sweeping us all away lol
Back in the day, within the C64 universe and when sampling was still a novelty, this was fantastic.....
But in 2021 it's crap from the tap, perhaps the technique behind playing digis may be interesting though.
You stole this from the "A Pig Quest" lead developer Antonio Savona. He has a demo of it on his channel from 2018. Plus, his version sounds much, much better, but is probably higher bitrate given that he is using a cartridge instead of the internal memory of the 64.
Take on Me is by Ah-Ha. Not Ah-Ah.
55 seconds of preparation followed with 17 seconds of content. OMG...🤦♂
😆It's worse than that, I edited out at least another minute of loading time.