for ages, i wanted an instax camera with full manual controls and the ability to use whatever glass i wanted. but such a thing didn't exist and when it finally did it cost way too much. i compromised by picking up a used fuji xe series body and one of their instax square printers. turns out it wasn't a compromise at all. the printer is small enough to fit in the smallest of my camera bags or even in a large pocket and now i can use whatever glass i want and have full control. added bonus, i end up with digital versions of all the images and can reprint duplicates, which is handy for groups and events. as soon as the wide format instax printer finds its way into my grubby little mitts i'll have the option to take either format with me.
The shutter delay in my opinion isn't a major problem, but the focusing screen and the coverage surely is, absolutely. I find it super hard to nail focus at f1.4, it's not impossible and you get used to it but it's damn difficult and you never have idea of what's gonna be in frame, you just decide what's gonna be in the center and hope the frame will cooperate.
Excellent review. We need more options for good cameras with instant film. And tangible is so important IRL. Un regalo. FYI: there's a synch problem [audio lags].
I would love a followup video where you discuss: 1) Metering for Instax film more in-depth (considering the poor meter in the camera & the dynamic range of the film). 2) If you tried using flash with the camera for low light photography and how feasible that was for you.
I had a whole section talking about the flash, but it was too long and my conclusion was: “it’s hard. sometimes I nail it, sometimes I don’t”, so I didn’t feel it was particularly useful information on my end.
It's ok for me, since I use zone focus system all the time and the vf is just for the composing, i hope that this camera will available in vietnam soon :D
I love the camera!!! I use old Pentax and Russian lenses the most!!! I agree the viewfider is hard, wish there was a split image!!! It's also good for landscape!!!
I think you didn't mention the most important thing. The price: 449$. And to be honest that is really a lot for an Instant Camera with a lot of these flaws. But cudos for the idea and hopefully they will continue the project and perhaps refine it with a mark II or mark III and perhaps also lower the price.
I have it, the Mark II version, and I'd say it's a blast to use. It vignettes, the light meter is not so accurate (I use an app to meter or go by instinct and have no problem) but the fact I can use my Nikon lenses adapted and shoot freaking f1.4 on Instax film is astonishing. It's pretty expensive and almost for no one, but if you genuinely want to have fun, it's worth it. Just my 2 cents.
The instax format with a decent lens gives such great results. Imagine if Fuji could be bothered to make a GF670 style body that would take instax formats. This camera looks fun, but I feel like an instax mini, square or wide with a real lens hacked on the front and a separate viewfinder has more flexibility.
@@melaninxhalide1165 mint and lomo and the producer of this slr instax mini camera make low quality and easy to broke cameras full of imperfections only manufactured to waste expensive instant film,no camera not Polaroid or Fuji is better only have not important functions
I've heard some vintage 35mm zoom lenses can even cover 4x5, I bet they would work great with this! And wouldn't some telephoto adapters help with the coverage?
Unfortunately the vignetting isn't caused entirely by lack of lens image size - it's mostly caused by the internal shutter diaphragm circle being made too small. Even if you put a 8x10 field lens on this camera, the shutter mechanism would block the light, resulting in significant vignetting. Their teleconvertion further reduces your image quality, and helps slightly - but this isn't a proper fix. I hope they make a version of this camera with a bigger hole for the shutter, then you could use medium and large format lenses. There's a new SL660 camera being made, but instead of making the shutter hole bigger, they forcibly attached a teleconverter onto the body of the camera. This means it is not possible to use the SL660 without your lenses being modified by a non-removable teleconverter.
@@steveritchie4926 I had no idea! This makes a lot of sense. Do they use this shutter to minimize costs or something? It seems like a pretty big oversight.
@@AveryDelMiller I am not sure, I think their heart is in the right place - it seems like a really fun camera. I think it is just a technical oversight. I just wish folks could use larger format lenses without any problems! I do hope they are able to figure out a way to update it. It's challenging getting all those moving parts into the camera body. I'd happily buy a larger size camera if it allowed for a larger shutter opening!
M42 mount lenses encompass way more than just old Russian lenses. Lenses from Pentax, Mamiya, Pentacon, Carl Zeiss Jena, Chinon, and others are available in M42. It's one of the most wide ranging and versatile lens mounts IMO.
Want to be the center of attention at the next party, buy an instax wide printer and use your cell phone. Beware though, you'll need lots of film. When you discover that you can upload pics from other sources to your cell and then print them WIDE, you'll be hooked. I have all the instax cameras, and used them until I got the printer. Now they just collect dust.
Yes I bough it and I print from iPhone,not bad pictures 100% good photos vs low fi washed out and blurry and totally wrong dynamic range of highlights and shadows of analog camera;integrated app make miracles
It's a shame it doesn't use canon FD - that would get you a wide choice of fully manual lenses (with aperture rings!), and be easier to adapt to other lens mounts. That said, I can get rollei QBM onto EF so it's enough to get me wanting it
@@florian_kopr Those are macro tubes, unless they have glass (and then don't work well with all lenses). You can put EF onto FD with a passive adapter, but not the other way around
@@florian_kopr It is not possible to make a EF to FD adapter without an additional lens, because FD lenses have a shorter flange focal distance than EF.
Its a plastic instant film camera. If you want sharp photos, great viewfinder, solid build quality etc...from an instant camera, go spend twice as much for a MINT Intstantkon RF70. Just the fact that this thing has the ability to shoot almost any lens you have is amazing. No instant camera like it. I'll take it since you dont like it :)
Funny you mention the RF70 as a camera that takes sharp photos with solid build quality and a good viewfinder when the lens on it is plastic crap with lots of flare and low contrast unless you get it down to f11 or so and the body is flimsy because of the clam design and the viewfinder has very imprecise framing (there’s no parallax compensation). It’s an overpriced camera that calls itself “premium” just as this one. If you want a true premium experience with instant film your best bet is to get a custom instant back (Instax or Polaroid integral) for medium format cameras such as the RB/RZ67. Or if you want a more compact option, a modded Polaroid 110B. The price is close to the RF70 and the image quality, camera build and overall experience is orders of magnitude better. The reality is that it’s way too expensive and complicated to design and manufacture a truly premium film/instant camera this day and age, we’re better off just reusing old systems/cameras/optics and adapting them for instant formats.
Ridiculous use a slr bulky like yashica fx 3 to use tiny instax mini whit flare and vignetted pictures;instax mini printer take 99% better pictures vs mini 70 and 90 and Leica sofort and mint instantflex…
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Does it have a hot shoe?
yes!
Awesome, also is there a crop factor with lenses? I would like to put a fisheye on it and shoot skateboarding. Also what is the X sync?
Up to 250, it's full frame but the viewfinder gets poor coverage@@petevphotography
I was just on your channel looking to see if you had uploaded any new videos and here it is!!
for ages, i wanted an instax camera with full manual controls and the ability to use whatever glass i wanted. but such a thing didn't exist and when it finally did it cost way too much. i compromised by picking up a used fuji xe series body and one of their instax square printers. turns out it wasn't a compromise at all. the printer is small enough to fit in the smallest of my camera bags or even in a large pocket and now i can use whatever glass i want and have full control. added bonus, i end up with digital versions of all the images and can reprint duplicates, which is handy for groups and events. as soon as the wide format instax printer finds its way into my grubby little mitts i'll have the option to take either format with me.
How do you use this printer ? I am looking for a portable pictbridge compatible printer
I hope they keep improving the design.
Eliminating the shutter delay and adding split image focussing would make this the perfect instax mini camera.
The shutter delay in my opinion isn't a major problem, but the focusing screen and the coverage surely is, absolutely. I find it super hard to nail focus at f1.4, it's not impossible and you get used to it but it's damn difficult and you never have idea of what's gonna be in frame, you just decide what's gonna be in the center and hope the frame will cooperate.
'this is a nonce camera "
.. bit harsh.. but fair 😂
😂😂😂
Much needed review thank you :)
I want to try one!
Excellent review. We need more options for good cameras with instant film. And tangible is so important IRL. Un regalo. FYI: there's a synch problem [audio lags].
I would love a followup video where you discuss:
1) Metering for Instax film more in-depth (considering the poor meter in the camera & the dynamic range of the film).
2) If you tried using flash with the camera for low light photography and how feasible that was for you.
I had a whole section talking about the flash, but it was too long and my conclusion was: “it’s hard. sometimes I nail it, sometimes I don’t”, so I didn’t feel it was particularly useful information on my end.
It's ok for me, since I use zone focus system all the time and the vf is just for the composing, i hope that this camera will available in vietnam soon :D
I love the camera!!! I use old Pentax and Russian lenses the most!!! I agree the viewfider is hard, wish there was a split image!!! It's also good for landscape!!!
Yeah I remember this camera abt 2 yrs ago
I think you didn't mention the most important thing. The price: 449$. And to be honest that is really a lot for an Instant Camera with a lot of these flaws. But cudos for the idea and hopefully they will continue the project and perhaps refine it with a mark II or mark III and perhaps also lower the price.
That’s a great point. I didn’t think about it. I also hope they improve it on a mark iii version.
why we cant get a camera with a universal adapters like the former tamron adaptall series?
Quite a lot of down sides for $449! Great review though and some cool pics! Also the name isn't great if you're british haha
"Nonce" is British slang for pedophile, everyone.
I have it, the Mark II version, and I'd say it's a blast to use.
It vignettes, the light meter is not so accurate (I use an app to meter or go by instinct and have no problem) but the fact I can use my Nikon lenses adapted and shoot freaking f1.4 on Instax film is astonishing.
It's pretty expensive and almost for no one, but if you genuinely want to have fun, it's worth it.
Just my 2 cents.
I had the same impression. I’m gonna use my Nikon 50 1.4. I haven’t tried it on the Nons yet!
The instax format with a decent lens gives such great results. Imagine if Fuji could be bothered to make a GF670 style body that would take instax formats. This camera looks fun, but I feel like an instax mini, square or wide with a real lens hacked on the front and a separate viewfinder has more flexibility.
That’s where the MINT Instax Wide Rangefinder comes in…….
@@melaninxhalide1165 mint and lomo and the producer of this slr instax mini camera make low quality and easy to broke cameras full of imperfections only manufactured to waste expensive instant film,no camera not Polaroid or Fuji is better only have not important functions
I've heard some vintage 35mm zoom lenses can even cover 4x5, I bet they would work great with this! And wouldn't some telephoto adapters help with the coverage?
Unfortunately the vignetting isn't caused entirely by lack of lens image size - it's mostly caused by the internal shutter diaphragm circle being made too small. Even if you put a 8x10 field lens on this camera, the shutter mechanism would block the light, resulting in significant vignetting. Their teleconvertion further reduces your image quality, and helps slightly - but this isn't a proper fix. I hope they make a version of this camera with a bigger hole for the shutter, then you could use medium and large format lenses. There's a new SL660 camera being made, but instead of making the shutter hole bigger, they forcibly attached a teleconverter onto the body of the camera. This means it is not possible to use the SL660 without your lenses being modified by a non-removable teleconverter.
@@steveritchie4926 I had no idea! This makes a lot of sense. Do they use this shutter to minimize costs or something? It seems like a pretty big oversight.
@@AveryDelMiller I am not sure, I think their heart is in the right place - it seems like a really fun camera. I think it is just a technical oversight. I just wish folks could use larger format lenses without any problems! I do hope they are able to figure out a way to update it. It's challenging getting all those moving parts into the camera body. I'd happily buy a larger size camera if it allowed for a larger shutter opening!
It sounds to me like you're better off getting an Instax back for a Mamiya or other medium format, right? I love this idea but it's just so much work.
I don't have a Mamiya or medium format that can get an Instax back. For now, this is the most compact and comfortable all-in-one option.
@@edpavez good point, although I am under the assumption that you own all the film cameras :D
M42 mount lenses encompass way more than just old Russian lenses. Lenses from Pentax, Mamiya, Pentacon, Carl Zeiss Jena, Chinon, and others are available in M42. It's one of the most wide ranging and versatile lens mounts IMO.
Want to be the center of attention at the next party, buy an instax wide printer and use your cell phone. Beware though, you'll need lots of film. When you discover that you can upload pics from other sources to your cell and then print them WIDE, you'll be hooked. I have all the instax cameras, and used them until I got the printer. Now they just collect dust.
Yes I bought Polaroid lab and instax wide printer and my Polaroid slr 680 and instax 500 collect dust
I still think the best Instax camera is the Instax printer
Yes I bough it and I print from iPhone,not bad pictures 100% good photos vs low fi washed out and blurry and totally wrong dynamic range of highlights and shadows of analog camera;integrated app make miracles
nunca he usado una cámara así y ya sé qué pedir para mi cumpleaños jajaja
It's a shame it doesn't use canon FD - that would get you a wide choice of fully manual lenses (with aperture rings!), and be easier to adapt to other lens mounts. That said, I can get rollei QBM onto EF so it's enough to get me wanting it
just buy an eos/ef to fd adapter
@@florian_kopr Those are macro tubes, unless they have glass (and then don't work well with all lenses). You can put EF onto FD with a passive adapter, but not the other way around
Well i have an adapter with glas to adapt fd lenses to eos, i am using it since years, the only problem were sigma lenses with fd mount
And i usually use then an m42 adapter to get from eos mount to m42
@@florian_kopr It is not possible to make a EF to FD adapter without an additional lens, because FD lenses have a shorter flange focal distance than EF.
Its a plastic instant film camera. If you want sharp photos, great viewfinder, solid build quality etc...from an instant camera, go spend twice as much for a MINT Intstantkon RF70. Just the fact that this thing has the ability to shoot almost any lens you have is amazing. No instant camera like it. I'll take it since you dont like it :)
Funny you mention the RF70 as a camera that takes sharp photos with solid build quality and a good viewfinder when the lens on it is plastic crap with lots of flare and low contrast unless you get it down to f11 or so and the body is flimsy because of the clam design and the viewfinder has very imprecise framing (there’s no parallax compensation). It’s an overpriced camera that calls itself “premium” just as this one.
If you want a true premium experience with instant film your best bet is to get a custom instant back (Instax or Polaroid integral) for medium format cameras such as the RB/RZ67. Or if you want a more compact option, a modded Polaroid 110B. The price is close to the RF70 and the image quality, camera build and overall experience is orders of magnitude better.
The reality is that it’s way too expensive and complicated to design and manufacture a truly premium film/instant camera this day and age, we’re better off just reusing old systems/cameras/optics and adapting them for instant formats.
Man, at the price they want for this and the limitations you describe, I'd rather have an Instax Wide printer and use it with the phone app.
I bought instax wide printer for my iPhone it s a dream
I don't know why this feels like a philosophy essay...Oh yeah! It's made by a philosopher
M42 mount equals "old russian lenses"? uhm, no, M42 is so much more...
...is also a friend, a master, a partner for your adventures. M42 is love. M42 is life.
GOD MOUNT.
100% agree with you. It's much more than old Soviet lenses.
I have never heard of this Instax rig.
If the Russian lenses are Pentax SCREWMOUNT - use USED Pentax lenses….
Ridiculous use a slr bulky like yashica fx 3 to use tiny instax mini whit flare and vignetted pictures;instax mini printer take 99% better pictures vs mini 70 and 90 and Leica sofort and mint instantflex…