@@loveylace4541we don’t know how long Pike was in command of Enterprise at this point or what happened in its mission till then but it sat out the war and he said they were on deep exploration with orders not to return if star fleet lost. While close quarters for a while does make a group close the life and death nature of his time with discovery is a very different level of bonding. Think of going to the office everyday, you make friends, some closer than others but compared to being with people who saved your life and whose lives you saved. Living together through a very chaotic event makes much deeper bonds than just a regular crew doing very normal events.
This scene is absolutely breathtaking. The audio effects, the primal roar of the ships' engines, the muffled blasts of the explosions in the background, and then, damn, that music. This scene - that "Go, go, go!" bit actually brought tears to my eyes. Wonderfully done. Not the Star Trek we knew, but then people have been saying that since Encounter at Farpoint.
A few some-what good episodes don't make a series. Star Trek: Discovery was a diversity, woke garbage show. With a political agenda so out of mainstream it lost huge number of viewers with each passing episode. It lasted 5 seasons only because CBS refused to cancel a failed show as it didn't want to prove yet again; Go Woke, Go Broke. What they did to Klingons alone made this show inexcusable trash. (and I'm just using family friendly language for how bad this all was)
@@vonmang3524 MF what are you yappin about? star trek has always been somewhat politically aware. Discovery is bad because of trash writers and retarded execs.
I mean, whats left? They tidied up this series nice and neat and even gave us a cute lil bow tie from Star Trek: Picard. Im thinkin' Discovery is over man.
@@adaptabledisease Your comment did not age well at all. Season 3 was fantastic, and there are infinitely many stories to tell from here. Discovery rocks!
So top 3 scenes for me in Trek: 1. Enterprise escaping in Trek III 2. Burnham Taking Flight in this video 3. Battle Between Kirk and Khan in the Nebula from Trek II
This and Michael jumping in the Red Angel for the first time are two of the most spectacular scenes I've ever seen in Star Trek, and I've been watching since TNG was coming on new on TV (😂). Beautiful!
@@Booyaka9000 Nice job shaming someone for liking new trek. Stop gate keeping, makes you look like an ass. I've been watching Trek for 30 years, and love the new trek. Stop shaming those who do, you don't own Trek.
This was a fucking AWESOME finale. The visuals of them going into the wormhole were *chefs kiss* That scene alone should have won them an Emmy, this final battle was Emmy worthy. Love! Love! Love it! Outstanding job, CBS. Not sure why Michael couldn't be IN the ship and they *follow* her signal to assure they arrived at the same time in +984yrs, but hey, still a great scene.
@@kenmasters2025 The suit itself isn't auto pilot capable for what she needed to do. Opening the wormhole, setting the signals, and leading Discovery could only be done manually. Also they touched on Discovery being able to follow her on auto pilot, the crew choose to go with her to the future instead so she wouldn't be alone. They had to go to the future to keep the data out of the hands of Control and therefore protect all sentinel life in the galaxy.
This is entertainment. This is a story. This is not a real depiction of what or can happen. This is done to get people to enjoy the story of man fighting a creation they created and winning.
For those who take it for granted: I hope you someday understand why a character like Michael Burnham is so important to us black female sci-fi geeks. We've watched other people shine all our lives and enjoyed them, but for us to have someone we can see directly into is a special gift. Never would have thought I'd see the day when there'd be a character like her. It truly does bring tears to my eyes. This is still my favorite episode, as it has some of my favorite scenes in the whole series. My favorite relationship in the series is one I never would have expected to have been in the first place: Michael and Spock. It was beautiful, and their goodbye right before is so bittersweet, as is the Discovery saying goodbye to Captain Pike and Saru leaving his people after finally being reconnected with them after all that time.
As a cis White male, this word brought tears to my eyes. Captain Burnham is the Captain we've waited 56 years for. And for Black Women everywhere, you are seen, loved, honored and exalted!
A classic scene in the amazing lore of Star Trek -- perhaps top 10 since a Federation ship has never jumped into its own far future with that amount of time! The following episode is gold too, since they realize everyone they knew is ancient history.
Am I the only one who has the Red Angel remind them of the Nexus? Cause honestly this sequence is so beautiful but the way the lights travel and such just makes me think of the Nexus from the TNG era.
This was so emotional, Pike thought of them like Family and that is so sweet! In my DR I’ll make sure to bring them back and the reunion will be sweet (and pike won’t have to die)
Sadly, the only way to save the universe was to send Discovery so far to the future that the AI couldn't possibly complete itself. But on the other hand, we got Michael seeing the man Spock became in Unification 3. And to see that his life's work was truly successful, even though he never lived to see it.
They definitely had my favorite relationship (I loved all the relationships) out of the whole series. It had such a well-done, clearly drawn out progression. If I were Michael, I wouldn't have wanted to let him go either. Hell, I'd watch a show where Michael and Spock go on adventures, now that I think about it! 😭
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist.
I loved it, it was like one of the best episodes of TNG spread out over a whole series. The setup for the mystery, following the bread crumbs, the picture comes into focus, and by the end, we finally found the answer! In the words of Picard, "We humans, we love mysteries, it's in our nature to want to solve them."
As much I adored the show for its first 2 seasons and hated the latter 2, this scene makes me fucking CRY. It's shot so beautifully and I wish the whole series followed suit. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥
You know what, I've never got along with almost 90% of the left-minded ideas in this series (and I'll never do probably), but I liked the whole work so much, I can even watch it over and over again for eons, dreaming of a future where humans have reached the stars, met other life forms, and even formed alliances with them!, Just imagine if all the money spent on all wars in history was invested in scientific research, maybe Star Trek would've been the world we live in now! 🌌
@@narohato1749 Yes, control was based on the sphere data on AI, and we saw before that it was capable of moving itself through time, given the right conditions. The Sphere data had to be sent to the future to prevent control from ever being formed.
This was SUCH A FANTASTIC show up until this point. Season 3 and beyond are just plainly upsetting garbage. They set this show up for such a grandiose future, just to end up with the most PEDESTRIAN take on it. I hope season 5 gives it the STAR TREK ending it deserves for at least being a part of the franchise. 🖖🏼
Ngl, I genuinely hope that Discovery manages to find a way back to their original timeline as sort of a breakoff timeline branch to the original timeline
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist.
Can anyone tell me how the ending makes sense? Why does going into the future save the data from control? Control is an AI so it won't die and still exist in the future so how does it make sense to say "let's go into the future where we are save from control."??
Because control needed to have the data to evolve in the first place. Its evolution and eventual dominance is achieved by having the Sphere Data. So by transporting that data into the future it couldn't evolve and therefore it could easily be neutralized. Without the data control is simply a AI without any real self awareness. This makes it just a piece of technology/software that can be destroyed.
@@CarlosHuiskens I haven't watched the show so I expect that's why I'm confused. Was there some limitation possessed by Control that explained why this would work? Some MacGuffin about Control withering away very quickly without the data or being unable to replicate itself into other systems and simply transfer itself around and wait in hiding? Control is an AI which knew it needed the Sphere Data and it also knew about the Red Angel and knew what the plan was, correct?
@@rebaav I believe that Control primarily uploaded itself to Leland's dead body when the A.I reanimated him with nanites that contained itself. And because the spore drive module was magnetized they were able to neutralize Control to such an extend that it wasn't able to control the fleet anymore. Also the reason why it wanted and knew about the sphere data is presented in episode 7 of season 2. In that episode Luitenant Commander Airiam is corrupted by an entity from the 28th century specially to collect data in Artificial intelligence. Now while not directly confirmed i believe that this entity was a fully evolved Control from a future in which it achieved getting the Sphere Data which resulted in the total loss of life ( depicted in Spock's visions ) So in order to basically advert that future they took the Sphere data to the future so that the neutralized A.I in the present couldn't evolve beyond its basic nature. Without the Sphere data Control was still just an A.I that could be defeated. As mentioned by Michael's mom the future she visited was devoid of any life. So i truly thing that A version of Control from the future tried to ensure its own evolution but ultimately failed.
I thought this total trash at the time. Comparing this to the drastic increase in quality that came with strange new worlds, I haven't changed my opinion.
The issue was the Sphere data couldn't be removed from the ship and they ethically wanted to avoid destroying it because it was sentient. As long as the data remained in the past, the potential future would still exist and could continue to send agents back in time to insure a version of Control got the data. Moving the ship to the future instantly cut off the future timeline and insuring 23rd century Control was destroyed was extra insurance.
@@bluedotdinosaur They did try to destroy Discovery and therein the data, but it had control of the ship's systems and thus raised shields when the Enterprise fired torpedoes at it.
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist. And so on.
It’s lockstep purists like YOU who are so trapped in the 1990s that to you anything after DS9 and Voyager do not exist and that mindset will kill ALL STAR TREK FOREVER, not just the type you hate. You do have the right to not like something but Star Trek is supposed to be about optimism no matter how bad thing might seem, about celebrating our differences and working together in peace for a better life. How ironic then that you hypocritically reject everything Star Trek stands for by casting hate upon anyone and anything you disagree with
@@DancingRasputin just to nitpick, how can you say that star trek is supposed to be about optimism when Discovery is literally *and* metaphorically dark in nature? never in the history of Trek, even DS9 had such a bleak and dystopian look of the future.
@@thegoose1005 Discovery gets a helluva lot darker, that's for sure. But the darker the tunnel, the brighter the light at the end. Because of the darkness, ironically, Discovery practically conveys the message of optimism better. The world is crushing around them, but they still keep fighting to make the future a better place. They never give up, and they set aside their differences to build the road to tomorrow. Stardust here is absolutely right.
Remnants of control was still present in Federation systems. They touched on that towards the end of the episode. They went to prevent any reoccurrence of control getting it's hands on the data
@@hoscat1395 They couldn't. They tried but the data protected itself. Therefore preventing it's deletion. The only option was to remove Discovery from the galactic equation entirely.
Season 3 didn't end on a cliffhanger. But it didn't have to, because now the main task is to knit together the remnants of the Federation and then build something even better than before.
Yeah, I don't think season 3 had nearly as cool an ending as 1 and 2. But I mean they couldn't do much to make it as breathtaking. I don't think I could have written anything better given the context.
It wasn't cancelled. It did so well it singlehandedly propped up the entire streaming service and relaunched the franchise. The new ST shows are very expensive and only two full series can be in production at once. Getting five seasons in the modern streaming environment is an expected run for one show.
I'm surprised by the positive comments I've just watched the final episode of Season 2 and couldn't believe how bad it was. The effects were amazing but the story was a complete mess with so many stolen ideas and script constructs. It also had no flow or explanation of what was happening. When the klingons turned up with the other race it felt completely wrong to me. I shall continue watching Star Trek Discovery but have to say this for me is the second worst Star Trek series after Deep space Nine. It was by far the worse episode of Discovery I have seen. The only good thing was the way it ended did want me to continue watching as I wanted to see what happens next but I'm just not happy with the entertainment value of the episode itself.
Disco is okey. Probably this season 2 is the best by far of any star trek. While it does not have that “nostalgic” star trek feels, i welcomed it with open mind. Nevetheless, i still rank still rank disco 2nd, tied with tos as tng and voyager tied for my 1st. Never saw ds9 and enterprise yet. Will have to do a marathon on those on netflix soon.
"when the Klingons showed up with the other race" Hold on, did you pay any attention at all? Ash Tyler/Voq went back to L'Rell to request aid from L'Rell's fleet, and why wouldn't the Kelpiens want to come and help Saru? listen, your ignorance of what's going on doesn't make it bad LMFAO
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So happy Pike is getting his own show! Anson Mount absolutely nailed that role!
Yea, he also felt to me like a unity between the original Pike and Kirk, so he’s like a perfect version of the captain of the Enterprise.
@@natali_wolffe9012 Prefer the original Pike. Hopefully they make Anson more of a badass like Hunter on SNW, but I'm skeptical.
AGREED!! Best character on the show hands down!!
Cullen Bohannon: space cowboy
Kirk is like a wish Jim Carey But Pike is fantastic
This is by far my favorite scene of all of Star Trek Discovery, rewatched it multiple times and never gets bored.
I love this scene and it brings me to tears. It reminds us of the importance of appreciating our loved ones while they are here.
Facts best scene ever 💯
Me too, I'm actually watching the ending as she is flying like the Phoenix from the X-men comic books,lol. Awesome!
"Good bye my friend, My family..."
That line still hits me so hard.
Enterprise crew: Captain??? What-?
@@loveylace4541 "*EHEM *EHEM* EXTENDED family..."
@@loveylace4541we don’t know how long Pike was in command of Enterprise at this point or what happened in its mission till then but it sat out the war and he said they were on deep exploration with orders not to return if star fleet lost. While close quarters for a while does make a group close the life and death nature of his time with discovery is a very different level of bonding. Think of going to the office everyday, you make friends, some closer than others but compared to being with people who saved your life and whose lives you saved. Living together through a very chaotic event makes much deeper bonds than just a regular crew doing very normal events.
I have never regretted that I chose Star Trek as my favorite program. I have loved it in all it forms and will do so, forever.
It also makes me cry EVERY DAMN TIME!!!!
The scene gives me chills every single time.
Everyone saying goodbye in their own little way has me crying
Seriously one of the most beautiful visual sequences in Trek history. I love how everyone, even the klingons are in awe of what they are witnessing.
the Klingons weren't in awe , L'rell was just pissed off at Ash's reaction because he's in love with Michael and she's jealous
@@NitpickingNerd Hilarious I found your old comments just a day after your last video.
This scene is absolutely breathtaking. The audio effects, the primal roar of the ships' engines, the muffled blasts of the explosions in the background, and then, damn, that music.
This scene - that "Go, go, go!" bit actually brought tears to my eyes. Wonderfully done.
Not the Star Trek we knew, but then people have been saying that since Encounter at Farpoint.
Star Trek has been, and always shall be… my favorite franchise
I can't wait for 10 years from now when the majority of the fanbase starts to realize how good this show was.
Human lifespans aren't that long.
A few some-what good episodes don't make a series. Star Trek: Discovery was a diversity, woke garbage show. With a political agenda so out of mainstream it lost huge number of viewers with each passing episode. It lasted 5 seasons only because CBS refused to cancel a failed show as it didn't want to prove yet again; Go Woke, Go Broke. What they did to Klingons alone made this show inexcusable trash. (and I'm just using family friendly language for how bad this all was)
@@vonmang3524 They said the same shit regarding Enterprise
@@vonmang3524 MF what are you yappin about? star trek has always been somewhat politically aware. Discovery is bad because of trash writers and retarded execs.
It’s not tho…
This scene is just beautifully done ! I was crying literally on this final. I can't wait for season 3
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I mean, whats left? They tidied up this series nice and neat and even gave us a cute lil bow tie from Star Trek: Picard. Im thinkin' Discovery is over man.
@@adaptabledisease BAM season 3 episode 1 is ouuuuuut boys
@@adaptabledisease Your comment did not age well at all. Season 3 was fantastic, and there are infinitely many stories to tell from here. Discovery rocks!
Me too 😭😭😭
I love this scene. This show is so heartwarming. I love this crew
Anson Mount does a great Cristopher Pike.
This was best 10 minutes of TREK ever done. Cannot watch it enough.
lol
So top 3 scenes for me in Trek:
1. Enterprise escaping in Trek III
2. Burnham Taking Flight in this video
3. Battle Between Kirk and Khan in the Nebula from Trek II
This scene was so epic, had a tear. 100/100! I never give anything a 100 on youtube
SE2 Finale - " Let's Go "
SE3 Finale - " Let's Fly "
I kinda loved her🥰
SE4 Finale - “ Let’s Surf “
SE5 Finale - "Let's Dance!!!"
Best scene in the series, like an angel ascending....
Other things aside, this is where the new version of Trek really shines compared to the older ones.
Why is Anson Mount so perfect as Pike?
One of the best scenes in Star Trek history.
Sure... if you're 10yrs old and never seen **any** Trek made before 2009.
This and Michael jumping in the Red Angel for the first time are two of the most spectacular scenes I've ever seen in Star Trek, and I've been watching since TNG was coming on new on TV (😂). Beautiful!
Definitely Top 3 for me. 3rd for me is The Enterprises Escape scene from Trek III. The music in this scene is just incredible.
@@Booyaka9000 Nice job shaming someone for liking new trek. Stop gate keeping, makes you look like an ass. I've been watching Trek for 30 years, and love the new trek. Stop shaming those who do, you don't own Trek.
@@Booyaka9000 I'm 40 have watched every show every movie and this was brilliant
Absolutely beautiful
This was a fucking AWESOME finale.
The visuals of them going into the wormhole were *chefs kiss*
That scene alone should have won them an Emmy, this final battle was Emmy worthy. Love! Love! Love it! Outstanding job, CBS.
Not sure why Michael couldn't be IN the ship and they *follow* her signal to assure they arrived at the same time in +984yrs, but hey, still a great scene.
Episode was hot fucking garbage. Her suit and discovery has auto pilot. They didn't need to go to future at all
@@kenmasters2025 The suit itself isn't auto pilot capable for what she needed to do. Opening the wormhole, setting the signals, and leading Discovery could only be done manually. Also they touched on Discovery being able to follow her on auto pilot, the crew choose to go with her to the future instead so she wouldn't be alone. They had to go to the future to keep the data out of the hands of Control and therefore protect all sentinel life in the galaxy.
@@brianhuffman5187There were still remnants of Control present in Federation systems. This was touched on in the episode.
i mean yeah auto pilot is a thing but it could have been highjacked by control
This is entertainment. This is a story. This is not a real depiction of what or can happen. This is done to get people to enjoy the story of man fighting a creation they created and winning.
For those who take it for granted: I hope you someday understand why a character like Michael Burnham is so important to us black female sci-fi geeks. We've watched other people shine all our lives and enjoyed them, but for us to have someone we can see directly into is a special gift. Never would have thought I'd see the day when there'd be a character like her. It truly does bring tears to my eyes.
This is still my favorite episode, as it has some of my favorite scenes in the whole series. My favorite relationship in the series is one I never would have expected to have been in the first place: Michael and Spock. It was beautiful, and their goodbye right before is so bittersweet, as is the Discovery saying goodbye to Captain Pike and Saru leaving his people after finally being reconnected with them after all that time.
Huh, so you can't identify with another female character because of their skin color? That's racist.
Sure, if you're happy being represented by a badly-written sociopath.
Enjoy your soulless, diversity checkbox extravaganza.
As a cis White male, this word brought tears to my eyes. Captain Burnham is the Captain we've waited 56 years for. And for Black Women everywhere, you are seen, loved, honored and exalted!
Michael Burnham is such a breath of fresh air, strong sister power! The reason I watch this series!
A classic scene in the amazing lore of Star Trek -- perhaps top 10 since a Federation ship has never jumped into its own far future with that amount of time! The following episode is gold too, since they realize everyone they knew is ancient history.
The best space fight and ending to a star trek series ever loved every minute of it
Breathtaking epic Music for a breathtalking Epic Scene. Good Work Jeff Russo
One of the greatest SciFi television series of all Time 🔥
gayest
Say whatever you want about this show, this was so fucking epic.
One of the best season endings ever on a TV show.
Am I the only one who has the Red Angel remind them of the Nexus?
Cause honestly this sequence is so beautiful but the way the lights travel and such just makes me think of the Nexus from the TNG era.
To me this is the best moment of Star Trek ever. Loved every second of it
This was the best scene of the season. The effect and the music in conjunction with what i call "the leap" just goddamn.
OHHH okay. Discovery was still in the time of when they still puts loose rocks in the ceilings of their ships’ bridges.
Starfleets always done that
@@airrider-jk9ik It also seems the TOS Romulans did too when I watched that episode...
No, Romulans use Styrofoam.
@@procyon6370 true true
@@procyon6370so The Romulans are smarter than Starfleet, I’d rather get hit with styrofoam over loose rocks 😂
😭😭😭😭 this plan with music of discovery who goes in the portal that was a real ending
This was so emotional, Pike thought of them like Family and that is so sweet! In my DR I’ll make sure to bring them back and the reunion will be sweet (and pike won’t have to die)
Ash looking out at Burnham always gets me the most in this scene
I really hope one of the future seasons finds a way to bring Discovery back to it’s time....and reunite Spock and Michael
Sadly, the only way to save the universe was to send Discovery so far to the future that the AI couldn't possibly complete itself. But on the other hand, we got Michael seeing the man Spock became in Unification 3. And to see that his life's work was truly successful, even though he never lived to see it.
They definitely had my favorite relationship (I loved all the relationships) out of the whole series. It had such a well-done, clearly drawn out progression. If I were Michael, I wouldn't have wanted to let him go either. Hell, I'd watch a show where Michael and Spock go on adventures, now that I think about it! 😭
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist.
Makes me cry every time
This is a very emotional scene for me especially the bond between Michael and Spock. It reminds me of the bond I have with my sister.
That battle scene makes no sense but the rest is soul stirring.
They managed to save the galaxy, with a great cost.
Season 2 was the best
I loved it, it was like one of the best episodes of TNG spread out over a whole series. The setup for the mystery, following the bread crumbs, the picture comes into focus, and by the end, we finally found the answer! In the words of Picard, "We humans, we love mysteries, it's in our nature to want to solve them."
The crew of Discovery made the ultimate sacrifice.
poor enterprise's front
The last time we see Tyler no!😢
We'll see him again in the Section 31 show
Sickest final scene in any show ever
it was like a father last defense for his family leaving the nest forever..1:48
Accurate "imma angel" ego trip of crowd X is accurate. The red color makes it even more accurate as to which "angel" they actually most resemble.
Is it me or were they trying to do a Motion Picture special effect with the time travel wormhole bit?
@@jamestopoleski9255 a 40 yrs old effect that still holds cuz it was originally done by the great Douglas Trumbull
Not just to that scene, but to Star Trek in its entirety.
As much I adored the show for its first 2 seasons and hated the latter 2, this scene makes me fucking CRY. It's shot so beautifully and I wish the whole series followed suit. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥
Anyone know the soundtrack song when M spreads her wings and flies?
Someday humans won't believe this was already in the year 2024 and few thought it was fictoon
And so, the crew of the starship USS Discovery is on a one-way trip, to the Future!
Tinkerbell in space.
You know what, I've never got along with almost 90% of the left-minded ideas in this series (and I'll never do probably), but I liked the whole work so much, I can even watch it over and over again for eons, dreaming of a future where humans have reached the stars, met other life forms, and even formed alliances with them!, Just imagine if all the money spent on all wars in history was invested in scientific research, maybe Star Trek would've been the world we live in now! 🌌
So if the bad guy was dead, and he can’t go through with his plan with the future, why did they go through anyway? The threat is neutralized.
They still went to the future because they couldn't be sure that control hadn't backed itself up somewhere.
@@narohato1749 Yes, control was based on the sphere data on AI, and we saw before that it was capable of moving itself through time, given the right conditions. The Sphere data had to be sent to the future to prevent control from ever being formed.
God the music just sets this scene so well
A rare gem in a sea of garbage. One thing this show always deserves credit for is the quality of its CGI.
There,i wached the first half hr of the first episode and now this
There are not words other than Jaw. Floor.
Look up the term “astroturfing “ then come back and read all these comments.
and once again Starfleet puts rocks on their deep space vessels
What else is gonna injure crewmates when a console explodes for no reason 😂
You do better
This was SUCH A FANTASTIC show up until this point. Season 3 and beyond are just plainly upsetting garbage. They set this show up for such a grandiose future, just to end up with the most PEDESTRIAN take on it. I hope season 5 gives it the STAR TREK ending it deserves for at least being a part of the franchise. 🖖🏼
Ngl, I genuinely hope that Discovery manages to find a way back to their original timeline as sort of a breakoff timeline branch to the original timeline
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist.
in a future they will joke about how we could just dream of doing this
Cena perfeito dessa série maravilhosa 🥰
Even in the future All ships still have exploding rocks in the consoles lol
Can anyone tell me how the ending makes sense? Why does going into the future save the data from control? Control is an AI so it won't die and still exist in the future so how does it make sense to say "let's go into the future where we are save from control."??
Because control needed to have the data to evolve in the first place. Its evolution and eventual dominance is achieved by having the Sphere Data. So by transporting that data into the future it couldn't evolve and therefore it could easily be neutralized. Without the data control is simply a AI without any real self awareness. This makes it just a piece of technology/software that can be destroyed.
It doesn't make sense on any level. It is simply not a good series
@@hobbs1701a then stop watching clips... or do you just enjoy whining?
@@CarlosHuiskens I haven't watched the show so I expect that's why I'm confused. Was there some limitation possessed by Control that explained why this would work? Some MacGuffin about Control withering away very quickly without the data or being unable to replicate itself into other systems and simply transfer itself around and wait in hiding? Control is an AI which knew it needed the Sphere Data and it also knew about the Red Angel and knew what the plan was, correct?
@@rebaav I believe that Control primarily uploaded itself to Leland's dead body when the A.I reanimated him with nanites that contained itself. And because the spore drive module was magnetized they were able to neutralize Control to such an extend that it wasn't able to control the fleet anymore.
Also the reason why it wanted and knew about the sphere data is presented in episode 7 of season 2. In that episode Luitenant Commander Airiam is corrupted by an entity from the 28th century specially to collect data in Artificial intelligence.
Now while not directly confirmed i believe that this entity was a fully evolved Control from a future in which it achieved getting the Sphere Data which resulted in the total loss of life ( depicted in Spock's visions )
So in order to basically advert that future they took the Sphere data to the future so that the neutralized A.I in the present couldn't evolve beyond its basic nature. Without the Sphere data Control was still just an A.I that could be defeated.
As mentioned by Michael's mom the future she visited was devoid of any life. So i truly thing that A version of Control from the future tried to ensure its own evolution but ultimately failed.
Maybe DISCOVERY was from the future.
Wish i knew what all that meant. It looked quite striking. I didnt watch this show. I live in nepal.
is this before the show strange new worlds? im talking about in-universe continuity .
yup
I thought this total trash at the time. Comparing this to the drastic increase in quality that came with strange new worlds, I haven't changed my opinion.
Ah yes, of course the suit needs wings.
Soundtrack name???
I came here to make fun of you all, but I don't think I'll bother, seeing as your comments already do that.
love this scene but if Georgiou neutralized leyland/control, they no longer needed to go am i right?
The issue was the Sphere data couldn't be removed from the ship and they ethically wanted to avoid destroying it because it was sentient. As long as the data remained in the past, the potential future would still exist and could continue to send agents back in time to insure a version of Control got the data.
Moving the ship to the future instantly cut off the future timeline and insuring 23rd century Control was destroyed was extra insurance.
@@bluedotdinosaur They did try to destroy Discovery and therein the data, but it had control of the ship's systems and thus raised shields when the Enterprise fired torpedoes at it.
why did they go thru the thing even though leland was dead? did i miss something?
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist. And so on.
Seriously. Motion Picture effect in the wormhole. Just saying.
So… is there any reason why Discovery had to go into the rift as well? Why not just send Burnham in?
because they were infected with the AI and went so far into the future so that it couldnt affect other systems than theirs iirc
Ficção ação e aventura muito bom!!!!
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Now thats the way to timetravel not by chance nor a fiery bird of prey burning into solar flames.
Alright, go space jesus
Should have been the end of the series. Why prolong it, just give it the bullet it's begging for.
well that clip was a snoozefest
I am fucking bereft yo
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They should've sent this ship and show into a black hole. Wiped from existence and never to return.
It’s lockstep purists like YOU who are so trapped in the 1990s that to you anything after DS9 and Voyager do not exist and that mindset will kill ALL STAR TREK FOREVER, not just the type you hate. You do have the right to not like something but Star Trek is supposed to be about optimism no matter how bad thing might seem, about celebrating our differences and working together in peace for a better life. How ironic then that you hypocritically reject everything Star Trek stands for by casting hate upon anyone and anything you disagree with
@@DancingRasputin just to nitpick, how can you say that star trek is supposed to be about optimism when Discovery is literally *and* metaphorically dark in nature? never in the history of Trek, even DS9 had such a bleak and dystopian look of the future.
@@thegoose1005 Discovery gets a helluva lot darker, that's for sure. But the darker the tunnel, the brighter the light at the end. Because of the darkness, ironically, Discovery practically conveys the message of optimism better. The world is crushing around them, but they still keep fighting to make the future a better place. They never give up, and they set aside their differences to build the road to tomorrow. Stardust here is absolutely right.
So why do you need wings in space?
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So enemy defeated then why did they travel to the future? There was no purpose, all they had to do was destroy the ship.
Remnants of control was still present in Federation systems. They touched on that towards the end of the episode. They went to prevent any reoccurrence of control getting it's hands on the data
@@andromeda5414 so all they had to do was destroy the data
@@andromeda5414 still no reason to time travel
@@hoscat1395 They couldn't. They tried but the data protected itself. Therefore preventing it's deletion. The only option was to remove Discovery from the galactic equation entirely.
@@hoscat1395 They tried,but the data is indestructable except from being used,so they had to make this decision.
To each their own i guess
good riddance to bad rubbish!
and when you look at season 3 finale then compare...how dissappointing
Season 3 didn't end on a cliffhanger. But it didn't have to, because now the main task is to knit together the remnants of the Federation and then build something even better than before.
@@RolandThePaladin1 so there is a season 4?
@@Skybar23 Yes. They announced it when season 3 premiered.
Yeah, I don't think season 3 had nearly as cool an ending as 1 and 2. But I mean they couldn't do much to make it as breathtaking. I don't think I could have written anything better given the context.
come on Really I want real star trek writing back this aint it.
This show is awful. Glad it’s cancelled.
It wasn't cancelled. It did so well it singlehandedly propped up the entire streaming service and relaunched the franchise. The new ST shows are very expensive and only two full series can be in production at once.
Getting five seasons in the modern streaming environment is an expected run for one show.
I'm surprised by the positive comments I've just watched the final episode of Season 2 and couldn't believe how bad it was. The effects were amazing but the story was a complete mess with so many stolen ideas and script constructs. It also had no flow or explanation of what was happening. When the klingons turned up with the other race it felt completely wrong to me. I shall continue watching Star Trek Discovery but have to say this for me is the second worst Star Trek series after Deep space Nine. It was by far the worse episode of Discovery I have seen. The only good thing was the way it ended did want me to continue watching as I wanted to see what happens next but I'm just not happy with the entertainment value of the episode itself.
Disco is okey. Probably this season 2 is the best by far of any star trek. While it does not have that “nostalgic” star trek feels, i welcomed it with open mind. Nevetheless, i still rank still rank disco 2nd, tied with tos as tng and voyager tied for my 1st. Never saw ds9 and enterprise yet. Will have to do a marathon on those on netflix soon.
Mostly kiddies on TH-cam who get all giddy about special effects. Ooh, shiny explosions. Never mind that the story is hot fucking garbage.
"when the Klingons showed up with the other race" Hold on, did you pay any attention at all? Ash Tyler/Voq went back to L'Rell to request aid from L'Rell's fleet, and why wouldn't the Kelpiens want to come and help Saru?
listen, your ignorance of what's going on doesn't make it bad LMFAO
So a diverse wahman taught Spock how to 🖖? What a joke
Lol. Piss off, loser.
Discovery totally sucks tribble balls. How ever Strange New Worlds is totally fallowing Trek and is So much better.