Drop Panda Review - How does it compare to Airpods Max and Audeze Mobius?
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Headphone Recommendations:
Entry level
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Sennheiser HD 560S: www.headphones.com/products/s...
Sennheiser HD6XX: drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennhei...
Midrange
HiFiMAN Sundara: www.headphones.com/products/h...
HiFiMAN Ananda: www.headphones.com/products/h...
Audeze LCD-GX: www.headphones.com/products/a...
High End
Audeze LCD-2 (with EQ): www.headphones.com/products/a...
Focal Clear: www.headphones.com/products/f...
HiFiMAN Arya: www.headphones.com/products/h...
Sennheiser HD 800S: www.headphones.com/products/s...
ZMF Auteur: shop.zmfheadphones.com/collec...
HEDDphone (heavy): www.headphones.com/products/h...
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Rosson Audio RAD-0: www.headphones.com/products/r...
ZMF Verite Closed: shop.zmfheadphones.com/collec...
Focal Stellia: www.headphones.com/products/f...
Summit
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HiFiMAN Susvara: www.headphones.com/products/h...
IEM Recommendations:
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Moondrop Blessing 2 Dusk: shenzhenaudio.com/products/mo...
DUNU SA6: www.headphones.com/products/d...
Thieaudio Monarch: www.headphones.com/products/t...
Campfire Andromeda 2020: www.headphones.com/products/c...
64 Audio Nio (for bassheads): www.headphones.com/products/6...
64 Audio U12t: www.headphones.com/products/6...
Empire Ears Odin: www.headphones.com/products/e...
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Build, Design & Comfort
02:53 - Sound: Frequency Response & Tonal Balance
06:35 - Sound: Technical Performance
09:21 - Comparisons
10:53 - Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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For anyone wondering if this is a pre-production or production unit, my understanding is that this is a regular production unit. I'm not sure what other reviewers received or if there's a difference.
This review 'feels' very qualified - articulate to such an extent that I feel like I have almost heard the headphones. In a nutshell a "major no go" as some may say. Crinacle gives these a D for technical performance and I asked the same question. Why such a difference of opinion between reviewers.
1) QC issues
2) The sound flaws are more technical ones that do not affect their use for enjoyment of music (though may affect their suitability for professional use)
3) The sound flaws affect certain genres more than others so those unmoved by the genres affected will not report the flaws
4) Some positive reviews have a commercial / attention seeking incentive.
5) Some negative reviews have a commercial / attention seeking incentive.
(any other reasons?)
Be interesting to hear why others think there is such a disparity..and which reviewers they trust.
@@GIChow yes I am now very nervous, I have now read another review which says they are good but as “boring” I think the release of the app with apparently an eq will be interesting, saying that I could always use my hiby to pre eq and then Bluetooth transmit in LDAC to them I suppose
@@adrianmorrish8494 If I understand Crinacle's analysis correctly he gives audio devices a tonal score (B- in the case of the Panda) which is to do with frequency response and hence within the realm of what an equaliser can potentially remedy and a technical score (D-) which is ultimately to do with various immutable driver characteristics impacting things like transient response, which translates into 'speed', bass impact, resolution, etc. These technical limitations could probably not be addressed by an equaliser however yes be interesting to see what effect that has. It is curious though that even out of the box there is no consensus between reviewers on whether they sound poor, good or very good e.g. another I saw described them as better than the Sony XM4 which while no audiophile reference would probably score higher than the Panda seems to have done with the Headphone Show and Crinacle!
Yeah..my man, I have to say that absolutely no other site I have seen has expressed the type of opinion on the Pandas you expressed. I get sound is subjective, but in your case, I would have to say sound is unique. Nobody agrees with you. It's almost like you are reviewing a version that doesn't exist. You seem to know what you are doing but others on youtube that are audiophile reviewers have all said that these are the best Bluetooth headset you can buy and absolutely loves them and their sound quality especially in the details. It's really weird how isolated your opinion is vs other high ranked channels.
@@TheDigitalcrack best Bluetooth though, how high a bar is that, I don’t know I am getting mightily confused. One of the reasons I watch reviews is that I can’t easily try in detail every pair of headphones like reviewers can but I am getting lost since the AirPod Max and Pandas hit the scene, Pandas for second time it seems like review mayhem out there
Oh man i have been wanting this review forever
Nice to see the channel growing. Honest and objective reviews like these are the reason why this is so. Enjoyed the review, thanks. :)
I bought this and returned it a weeks later. This review completes match what I'm feeling about the Panda!
How did u return them out of interest as the policy with these dosent cover personal taste but only actual flaws? This is why I was doing more background investigation and diligence, often hear the i returned them statement it isn’t so easy with theses is it 🤔
@@adrianmorrish8494 mine stopped working. They made me pay the shipping for a replacement. I really wasn't wowed by the sound either.
@@j.d.thompson3505 did they really, that's not good.i think the test will be twofold, will they actually ever release the seriously overdue application and in a form where it is of benefit and will the DSP tuning make a significant difference to the sound or is the physical tuning overdone and not correctable. I have been using my Modius for over 2 weeks now and I really like them, LDAC and AAC wireless is good and hi-res from my Mac book Pro via USB sounds very good. Not having heard the Pandas I can't compare but some of the reviewers I have had conversations with say the Audeze are the best LDAC headphones for sound available (not the best sounding headphones overall of course). I'm using my Modius for several hrs a day from Zoom calls where they are excellent through to movies and music video through to just listening to music, I don't really game at the moment. For the price and getting all those camabilites they are actually a reasonable price although of course for many still a serious outlay esp at the moment.
@@adrianmorrish8494 yeah. I bought the Power Amp app because it has a pre amp and an EQ. I use all hi-res files and the sound still had very little detail or breadth. Then it started shutting down abruptly with a slowly blinking white light that would not reset or power back up. So after messaging Drop for days they finally responded with a return address and told me they would send me a replacement when I forwarded the tracking #. I will probably sell the replacement and buy something else. (If they actually send it)
@@j.d.thompson3505 hmm I'm thinking V2 if anyone is still interested In funding it, shame though. I'll stick with my Mobius then for wireless around the house and movies or when I can't use open back headphones wired. Thanks for this info its been really useful 👍
Please do a review of Audeze Penrose
Genuinely could not believe what I was hearing when I tried these at CanJam. Like, is this actually supposed to be an audiophile headphone? So this review doesn't really surprise me.
I remember early on in their development I asked Drop for a sample of these so that I could give them feedback on the tuning, but they didn't seem interested. It would appear that they obviously just wanted them in the hands of their affiliates first and foremost, sound quality be damned.
Or they just didn't need feedback from a TH-cam reviewer who thinks he knows everything about audio.
Well that's a bummer, seemed like a lot of people were eagerly waiting for this one.
Will you pretty please do a follow-up if/when drop adds SW with an EQ? I'm curious how much you can improve the technical performance by balancing the frequency response. I'm hoping it's not just over-dampened, and that's that...
Was thinking about upgrading my Mobius with this... I guess not! Good thing I'm still enjoying the Mobius quite a bit! Thanks for this review. Clear and straightforward!
Don't. I still have my Mobius, best sounding BT full size headphone I know of. Ananda BT was actually a letdown by comparison
Thanks for the review. I have both the mobius and panda and enjoy both. My default headset for music is the panda, I find the mobius a little fatiguing to listen to. Panda for music and mobius for gaming.
That’s interesting I’ve been trying the mobius last 2 weeks because of this review, I think I need to try the pandas for myself as we all know sound is so subjective outsid of the harmen curve 🤪
First review I’ve seen where these weren’t hyped like crazy, and I’ve seen a lot!
I came to this video for the Drop Panda THX experience. I left this video when you got me convinced about the Audeze Mobius... What can you tell me about the sound quality of the Audeze when listening on an iPhone? The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking for an all round headset mainly for listening to music on my phone, 2nd gaming, 3rd watching movies and listening to music on my laptop.
The most surprising part is that you actually received a unit with functioning audio on both sides!
Was waiting until you got to those. Thank you.
Hi. Great review. I know Chrono did the review of Momentum 3. But after you said that you using OnePlus 7t the idea came. I would really appreciate if you can do the measurements of the Momentum 3's with dolby atmos active on OnePlus device. Someday hopefully. And basically measuring any BT headphone with dolby atmos active and inactive would be interesting.
Thank you for this great review Resolve!
While one could do some EQ with an app like Wavelet, the lack of detail is a bummer.
Good Passive Isolation over an ANC wireless solution, would still be my preferred method. Though not with the Panda missing the technical performance. Good to have skipped this Drop.
Got the mobius after watching your vid & further research....to me audio quality is most impt & its worth every cent .. Thks
Did same
You have just shot to the top. I ordered these when I saw Z claiming they dethrone $1500 closed backs. I got mine very early on, first 1000 that went out. I could not believe me ears. They were just awful. The MOMENT I saw your measurements go up I thought YES! That’s what I’m hearing! They are simply bad. You and DMS were the only ones so far to tell it how it is.
Makes me wonder if they’re having production issues where some people are getting better drivers and tuning than others
You -can not - take Z's headphone reviews seriously. He doesn't know magnets inside a planar magnetic headphone if he's staring right at them and touching them.(True story).
It’s amazing how many people take Z seriously.His reviews for a laugh only not for his technical ability
I'm curious what you would think of the Dali io-6 headphones.
You really should try them with Oratory1990's eq parameters. I agree with a lot of your sentiments, but at least to my ears the eq really seems to fix it. It would appear then that the lack of micro-dynamics is largely a tuning problem as opposed to some inherent technical flaw.
For some strange reason not a lot of producers (and reviewers) understand a simple fact that you rarely put these headphones on the table but very often you rest them on your collar bones when taking them off. Therefore, the optimal swivel direction of the cups should be inwards (to yourself), not outwards. It's very strange how few reviewers know about this essential habit as if they never wear such headphones in real life. Otherwise it's painful for your collar bones if you take them off and rest them on your neck. There is no table on the go to put them on when you're walking. And I doubt all the tables are sanitized enough to contact the earpads which then touch your ears.
Please review that GoldPlanar GL2000 sitting in the background :D
Spoiler alert... He likes sundaras better. He talked about them on stream. The stream with super review at 51min mark
@@kwisatzsawyer I hear ya, Also waiting on review but he usually takes his time compared to others that rush them out on day 1. But figured his short answer might be enough not to rush into buying.
I have the double sided one here. It's okay, not terrible but nothing special. Also, I wouldn't take it over an Elex, Ananda, LCD2F or any of those. It competes more closely with Sundara.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow you trying to start a war with zeos??
@@theodorezurla496 Not at all. I just disagree with him.
Hey. Recent subscriber to your channel and loving your content. Just had a bit of feedback regarding your audio. I am often distracted by the sound of breathing between sentences. For example, listen from 1:23 to 1:43 and you'll hear multiple breathing sounds. For me it's one of those things where once you notice it you can't stop hearing it every time and get distracted by it. I don't know much about microphone placement but perhaps an out of camera view shotgun mic setup may help alleviate this? Regardless, thanks for all the great reviews.
Yeah it'd be ideal if my room didn't suck haha. I have a shotgun mic but my office is Harry Potter's closet under the stairs.
Aston mic? Nice upgrade. Sounds very detailed.
Wow, sounds like I'm listening to a different headphone. I got the Pandas mainly for at home wired use - I'm a closed back fan (seriously I need the isolation, can't really use/enjoy open backs when there's too much other noise coming in/out) and so far the B&W P7s and Sennheiser Momentum 2s are the best all-rounders I've found. Momentum 3 were okay after trialing instore, but something strange going on with wired use where they start to distort at relatively moderate volumes, making them a wireless-only headphone.
For the Pandas I've found their wireless use with LDAC is remarkably similar to wired quality, and sound more detailed to me than various other wireless headphones I've trialled at exhibitions or in store (Momentum 3, Shure Aonic 50, B&W PX7).
With wired use (MojoPoly, Plenue S or Fiio M11 Pro) I'm hearing plenty of detail. Soundstage is good and they have good extension to bass and treble. Only thing holding me back so far is some of treble is a bit artificial/digital sounding and prone to sibilance, and there does seem to be a bit of a gap in the bass with sub-bass lows produced well but some impact missing between down low and higher mid-bass -like a low-ish bass gap. All in all not too bad, and my feelings are similar to other posters here that they perform well as a consumer-focused headphone. For me, not sure they're a keeper yet, hoping some of the treble might calm down with more burn in, otherwise, the search for a better all-round keeper will continue.
Anyway, I enjoy your vids and thanks for the honest take.
Is there a song or playlist you recommend to compare detail with? My amateur ears didn't notice a big drop in detail between Sundara my and Panda headphones.
My main gripe with the Panda is the shallow cups and I get a terrible seal around the back of my ears. I hope someone makes replacement pads for it one day.
Hey guys in case it helps many of us are basically having to EQ our pandas to be more goalie stick shaped from lows to highs to sound even remotely close to the higher end open (ie: Ananda BT) type sound.
I ended up returning the Drop.Panda. The Mobius and the Ananda BT are way ahead in terms of detail retrieval and clarity for Bluetooth headphones
Good review. I’ve had all three of these. I made the mistake of getting rid of my Mobius before receiving the Airpods Max and Pandas. Now I have the Pandas and APM. I was disappointed in the Panda because they sound bloated and congested to me. I thought something was wrong with my perception. The eq app is supposedly coming soon. I’m not sure if the problems could be fixed with eq. The APM are ok, but the Apple eco features are hard to go without. In the end I realize I like the Mobius sound the best but HATE the form factor and lack of portability. I wish Audeze took them and made something with the build and form of the Panda, focused less on gaming and more on portability. They would have a home run hit IMO. At this point I will probably keep APM mainly for the additional features, but still really undecided.
They do sound much better on Android devices which offer the Higher LDAC Codec. I can hear the difference for my Galaxy 20 plus and my IPad Pro. Much clearer and better sound quality on the Android. I actually use the usbc wire to listen on my IPad Pro for better sound quality.
Strange.. I have pandas and enjoy detail in my music.. I also have a large collection of wired headphones in the sake and slightly higher bracket and I think they are great .. compared to Bose QC it's night and day.. I'm wondering if different batches sound different. No way mine lack detail.. I really enjoy them
This is what I am hearing right now as well on mine. They destroy my Sony XM4s in clarity and detail and of course are about 80% to 90% of my hifiman Ananda BTs which are about 80% of the layering and detail of my wired Aryas
Oh of course they destroy Bose QC35. That's not even close. But when you compare them to something like Sundara, it's also not even close. Andrew is comparing them to other audiophile grade headphones, which is totally fair, because these are marketed as the first ever BT headphone made for audiophiles.
@@neocui he mentions other noise cancelling in same bracket...
I've listened to the Drop Panda just for a moment (20 min). I got curious and someone I know has them. Comparing them to my Hifiman Ananda and Focal Elear they are actually bad. I understand what Andrew means. I played some songs with lots of low level info and its gone. It's just not there. I've never heard anything like this before. My old gaming headphones (Arctis Pro) displays that info, but not the panda.
@@InIcarus lol.. for a Bluetooth headphone they are excellent.. best under 500.. comparing them to wired obviously quite ridiculous.. do they compare to my thieaudio phantoms? Of course not. Let alone a pair of 900 ananda .. made me smile anyway.. For Bluetooth they are outstanding and I enjoy the sound signature.. sound is subjective.. I've read and heard many reviews some agree with me others don't.. that's fine..
So which headphones are better for sound (wireless), could you list them all?
For fans of a very smooth sound sig I'll recommend (a used) Oppo PM-3, which the Panda is built upon. They're wired yeah, but actually look like a quality portable headphone should. Too bad those are no longer made.
I reviewed that PM3 once some years ago as you probably remember and I was just shocked at this product supposedly being based on it. It's just so much worse lol
How better does it sound compared to a tuned (with eq. settings shown on this channel) wh-1000xm4?
I understand this is wireless, but I do like seeing comparisons to wired headphones. From what I've heard, IEM's are still the best portable option if you care about sound quality. Over-ears seem to mostly all have issues in sound and are not worth the price. You could get blessing 2 dusks for less then these and throw wireless adapters on em. I understand not everyone wants an IEM, but for the difference in sound quality for the same price it hardly seems worth considering any of the popular wireless overears.
So you would have preferred a black and white spotted pattern?
audeze mobius vs airpods max in sound quality mids, lows, highs and technical performance??? please reply
Could you recommend me a wireless headphone similar price range or below ? I’d really appreciate it
This is an understandable review, but this didn't take the sound id update into account. I'm certainly gonna try the audeze mobius a try because if this review
Beats the hell out of my sennheiser momentum 2
A black panda is just a “black bear” 😂
Is that the GL2000 peeking on the shelf directly behind you? Looks like the dual magnet version. Looking forward to your review.
He's going to poop all over them which sucks because I bought them and have to wait a month lol
@@theodorezurla496 A month is not that bad. The drop "pre-order" doesn't ship until April at the earliest.
@@shagathlete did you order them?
Wondering what you think of the Penrose?
I also have a 7T! Awesome phone 😄
my pandas are bricked after a few weeks of use this is a widespread issue as you can see on the drop forums but I have not seen any reviews mentioning it so if you are still on the fence do not buy them
Waiting for the Goldplanar review.
i need a bluetooth pair of headphones and idk which to get. i was looking at m50xbt and now im looking at pandas can someone recommend me some nice pair preferably good soundstage if its possible
Audeze Mobius unfortunately suffers from poor build quality on the thin part of its yokes, leaving them vulnerable to cracking and eventually breaking. I've been affected by this TWICE, and would go after rebuilding the frame with spare parts that are either CNC metallically-made, or 3D printed, but I don't know how to do that, or where to start.
Finally, someone who has some experience with the Mobius. While it sounds great there are TONS of reviews with people upset that after not to long the headband snapping. So as much as people are recommending them you have to account for the poor QC
Lovely review and analysis of the graph! Could I have a link to that beautiful dotted graph including the SPL colored titles but with just the Harman dotted line? I would really appreciate it
@@GBR9794 I did but I couldn't find that exact graph showing the frequency numbers and the SPL base mid high coloration. That's the one I want
They're linked in the description.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow If you're referring to the Measurements and Frequency Response article the graphs are different there without the coloration.
Don't mean to bother about this 😊 if it's not available that's fine , thanks for the reply
@@giorgosapo4508 Ah sorry, yeah I don't have that graph with just Harman on it. I'll have to update my full measurements article with that.
@@ResolveReviews That would be sweet , thanks
I believe it's called panda because it's ment to have monochromatic sound (not coloured) by dsp settings & anc
Yo you guys gotta cover the Abyss Headphone drama going down, im sure it would make for a juicy stream
@@pocophonef1379 The ASR measurement drama? (face palms...)
I'm not a big fan of wading into drama unnecessarily. But, we'll probably talk about it at some point on a stream. What's more interesting to me is to see all the diaphragm pictures and transducers taken apart. I'm more interested in how this stuff works and corresponds to the listening experience than the ASR spat. With that said, I will plant my flag firmly in the "ASR is doing it wrong" camp, even though I value the data they produce.
I have a feeling that Resolve is the 3rd party Abyss could be talking about as far as their desire to have independent measurements goes
@@metal571 I'm not sadly.
@@ResolveReviews aww :( bummed.
I almost feel like there is a sound quality control problem. I listen to 10 reviews and get 6 different opinions.
This escalated very quickly.
I thought I was the only one that leans forward to try to listen closer to something that’s placed on my ears
Ya I’m sitting on a pair of Pandas and I don’t get why these struck people as audiophile quality... Drop’s return policy also says I’m boned.
Why’s that don’t u get a 30 day window to return, or is it only If faulty?
@@adrianmorrish8494
Only if faulty, otherwise it has to be unused for you to return it. Like how do I know it sounds like shit without trying it?? So I had to bite the really expensive bullet 😓
@@sephondranzer they are now on Amazon US I will order that way, what a stupid return policy as you cannot try first 🙄🤤🤤
I'm definitely going to get one of these later this year
How does the mobius compare to the xm4s?
Glad I went with the K371BT
How are you enjoying them? Sound? Build quality?
Good Review! I feel like they could add a cool panda logo on it or someting.....
I think no logo is superior. Logos on headphones, especially animals, generally ruin the look for me. Maybe add some kind of white accent to make it more "panda".
make the pad white, or the other way around I guess. I mean, white pleather pads are cheap these days
what to choose between this and senn momentum 3? (for a better listening and sound experience)
Momentum 3
@@ResolveReviews 😯 thank you!
Review of Goldplanar gl2000?
Wht kind of music you listen to?
No punch is the reason why I keep it
From what you describe, I wonder how these guys would sound if someone crafty could take a dremel to the enclosure and mod them to be open.
I noticed the same issues with my pandas, bass a bit boomy not as clear or tight as I expected. I own the wireless in ear Fiil T1 Pro which are great through all frequencies tight deep bass better than the Pandas and a quarter the cost. I listened to Tool and the Fiil T1 Pro absolutely kill the Pandas. Plus my ears start sweating after 15 minutes with the Pandas so there is also that to deal with . Personally I also prefer my Shure ionic 50s they are tighter and to my ears sound much better !
Did you listen to them wired over analog? I wonder if the lack of detail is due to this headphone lacking a DAC chip? (It uses integrated DAC from the Bluetooth module)
Both. It's slightly different in wired mode yeah (slightly better treble extension). But the lack of detail is an over-dampening of the planar transducer. It's not uncommon for this kind of thing to happen with closed-back planars. It's somewhat of a requirement because you have to get the tuning right, but in this case it goes far enough to impact the sense of detail.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Thanks. Have you heard the Oppo PM-3 before? I wonder if this is the default tuning of the PM-3, or if Drop's custom tuning made it worse.
In my experience with these, I was shocked that they could even be PM3 based. PM3 was a pretty great product, idk what happened here
@@metal571 Is it possible this "PM3-based" is a lie? Like with HE5xx and the HE500?
@@neocui seems unlikely since apparently they bought Oppo's planar tech. That seems fairly unlikely to be a lie
black pandas are called bear
That's the joke I should've made... Damn.
I would've been happy with a Drop Bear
😂😂
@@david1235102 Drop Bear, the most dangerous animal in the world 😂
@@metal571 There was a minute where I was worried people wouldn't get it but the internet never fails.
Miss your reviews and hope you're doing well!
How the OnePlus 7t?
is it possible that pre-release units are different from what we can buy today? DMS even claimed that Drop Panda sound as detailed as HD6XX.
Doubtful
I would definitely trust resolve more than DMS.
I like DMS and the other reviewers, but many of us have different impressions of stuff. Also, we don't all think of detail the same way.
So Drop and the OEM they worked with substantially played with the tuning from pre-production to prod. I attended the Drop Panda launch party in SF last year in the before days and their sound sig was different and still being played with.
My set was one of the first 100 delivered and they sound somewhat different from the ones I listened to in SF.
@@JeffJacquesmd For reference, this one was brand new from Drop, not a pre-production unit. For whatever that means haha.
The pandas are great sounding.
I personally prefer the overall sound of Airpod Max by a long shot, don’t like how the Panda’s sound, don’t know if it’s tuning or the fact that it uses planars.
You are aware that there are dual built-in microphones, right?
It only works when using bluetooth.
That's why there's also the optional boom mic cable.
Why have you never reviewed that Cayin behind you? Damn near nothing on YT about that thing.
Amp reviews take a long time, it requires a lot of testing with a wide range of headphones, and I don't always have everything available to test with.
Still waiting for the Bose 700 review, is it coming?
I’ve had the Bose 700’s, they are great work headphones for phone calls/vid conferences, sound isn’t exactly amazing thoidj
Not as good as the xm4
I am on the fence about these.
Now that you can get the Drop Pandas for $175 it might be a welcome buy compared to a $400 Airpod max
So basically, they're overhyped and with Drop problems i.e. qc and taking foreverrrrrr to deliver
Best audiophile Bluetooth headphone recommendations?
Possibly the Shure Aonic 50
@@Elazarko unfortunately I tried it and was underwhelmed with various things
@@FabFeline interesting. Really? In what way? I'm actually considering picking up a pair. To use with a digital piano and music in general. What was it you didn't like them for?
@@Elazarko Hmm, well I didn't find the sound quality to be particularly impressive for the price. Felt more practical to stick with my Jabra 85h (which were more comfortable, more portable, and had better noise cancelling) for out-and-about, and pick up a nice pair of open-back headphones for at home (I've since purchased the HD560S and the Harmonicdyne Zeus, which both sound great and better than the Aonic, especially with EQ).
If they were more comfortable and portable I maybe woulda considered it, but they're very bulky and I got my hair stuck in them every single time I wore them :(
Plz make a video audeze mobius vs airpod max
I might. Mobius is way more detailed, so it'd be my pick.
How does the mobius compare to Shure Aonic 50? Is one better than the other?
Can you recommend another 400$ close back bluetooth headphone (not gaming) that is better ?
Lol why $400 closed backs specifically?
@@WarisAmirMohammad lol well first i like and i prefer closed back because they are practical for me, secontly for economic reasons i try to focus on one type of headphones (i know is questionable) and so a quictly realise my choices are getting limited..forget bluetooth, i was thinking monolith m1060c, dt177x go, audeze sine maybe..what do you think ?
Mobius, if you can do LDAC on your phone
@@metal571 Those could be a introduction to Audeze sound for me, but unfortunately i don't need all the features they have. Thanks metal.
I only use mine in BT mode without the mic with my phone and I can't think of something closed back BT that can sound better than that right now. Actually ended up being my primary closed back upgrade to the K371. DT177X is really not good, even worse than the 1770 which is already a downgrade from the DT 770, Sine is very uncomfortable since it's on-ear, haven't tried M1060C but lots of bad reliability I've heard coming out of Monoprice soooo
The headphones are obviously modeled after the Reverse Albino Panda 🐼
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It's called panda because everybody likes Pandas!
If you prefer the Mobius to the Panda, why you haven’t reviewed it yet? You seem to be in conflict to whether to review it or not...
That’s a very good point they have been referred to in other reviews as well.
can you review shure aonic 50? :) thanks
This and the hilarious B&O H95
I must be deaf as hell or have a totally different tuned set of Pandas. I swear the Panda's sound slightly better than my airpods Max. I can hear details just fine (just as much details too). Mind you, I only listen for enjoyment and relaxation, not analytical listening. I must have those average consumer level ears that can't tell a difference between something very much more detailed and the Pandas. Again, I primary listen for enjoyment and not analytic listening (as if these are for studio use). I think your weakness lies in valuing detail retrieval too much over other factors. Yes detail retrieval matters but not to the level you believe it does to most people. There is a such thing as sufficient detail (not wanting for more) as long as other factors are present (bass slam, etc).
Lastly I believe the better sound for many (not most) is a mix of the current and previous harmon curves. I slightly more elevated bass shelf with a not so much elevated high end. Lastly, you only gave us 1 wireless headphone around the price that you feel sounds better. What about the rest? You made it seem like it was at least 3 or 4 wireless headphones that sound better for the price.
Here's my resume and ranking for the ones I own (I have more and tried more but these off the top of my head):
He4xx (my favorite with Oluv's eq settings and magni 3 amp and lg v60 quad dac)
Focal Elex (2nd favorite, too dynamic at times which leads to fatigue)
Drop Panda (3rd favorite but sometimes prefer a little more sub bass)
airpods max (close 4th favorite, needs a little more mid bass to balance out the sound)
Drop th00x ebony (5th favorite, ever so slight sibilance on some tracks and mid bass bleeds a touch in the mids)
Note: On some songs and some moods (I be in) the ebony can possibly move up to the top of the list.
And many other reviewers prefer the Panda's sound over the Airpod Max sound.
And I believe the mix of the most current harmon curve with the previous curve is ACTUALLY THE BEST.
In other words, a higher bass shelf than the curve you displayed and
Here is the rest of my ranking:
58x jubilee (needs slight increase in sub bass)
akg k371 (with some eq changes, add a little more sub and mid bass)
phillips fidelio x2
sennheisher momentum 3 wireless (bass -4 to -6dB and treble -1 to -2dB)
sony hear.on 2
bose qc35 ii (can sound slightly harsh in the upper midrange on some tracks)
jbl live 300 tws (slight eq changes = best sounding tws earbuds I heard)
jabra elite 85t (slight eq changes with newest firmware which drastically improves the sound)
sennheiser true wireless 1 and 2
airpods pro (needs more sub and mid bass)
jabra elite 75t
sony xm4/sm3 (too much mid/high bass for both and xm3 is too dark)
I really hoped this would be good, but meh. There are good wireless IEM solutions but no headphones, oh man
Can you please explain in a video what is "feedback" in amplifer done to measure good? And why some 'purists' hate it? 😂
The panda are ip6 water resistant so there’s that....
That’s actually why I got them since it rains a lot here. And the whole THX thing.
Your pandas are broken. They have been sending out weak sounding pairs to a ton of people. 2 of my friends bought them and exchanged them for new ones and said that the new ones sounded 10x as powerful. Every headphone has something that prevents me from buying it. In this case, I'm worried the pandas may give me a broken pair like they've given you and several other reviewers
I actually own a pair of the Drop Pandas and I really enjoy the superior sound quality I personally hear on these as opposed to the Sony XM4 and the Sanhieser Momentums which I ended up selling to keep these. Also the sound is similar using the usbc which uses interior THX Amp. When wired to and Amp I find they do sound much clearer and gives for a better listening experience. I really like my pair.
The CAL! SE sound better than panda
when the gaming headphone wins lol
Bruh! It’s called Panda because the cups are shaped like Panda eye patches.
This headphone made me appreciate the presence of treble. I’m sensitive to it, which typically can make headphones fatiguing due to being too shouty or sibilant. However, these just lack it. I don’t mind them still since they’re still better than any bt headphones, but they could’ve been much better. The bass is passable for me, but borderline because the bass and lower mids are muddy like mentioned in the video. After hearing my 560s and sundaras… I’m just disappointed. Both due to the sound of the pandas, but because no other bt set comes within 10% this.
Wow you really shit all over this. I was hoping to get these and hoped some EQ woulf turn it into a budget portable LCD2. Sounds like that's a pipe dream.
when the video is a year late lol
Wow, looks like I dodged a bullet by not pre ordering...
Thanks for the review and the effort, but this review is 90% the opposite of what other reviewers say...so what's happening ?!!
Other reviewers are wrong :). No people just have different experiences with stuff. I recommend Crin's review on this as well.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow where can we find crin's review on these?
you are the only person that reviewed them that didn't recommend them. sooooooo...
Check out Crin's review
Don't understand
399? Ridiculous.i have a 50 soundcore which is just great
I'm taking serious advice from this guy and he doesn't even bother to research of black only pandas exist. How racist