Love this piece! One of my top 10 favorites in bad literature (yes, I'm a band director, retired). I first played this in a high school honor band in 1970. In college, this was my final for conducting class. As a school director, I did this piece many times in my 25-year career. Many may know that the composer, Robert Jager was at Tennessee Tech where he conducted band and taught composing. I once emailed Mr. Jager and told him that his Third Suite was one of my top favorites. I also told him that I conducted the Tennessee Tech bands long before he did. He was puzzled about this as he had never heard of me in the school's archives. I told him my dad was a student at Tennesse Tech in the mid-1950s (Tennessee Polytechnic Institute at that time) and that when I was taken to the ball games, I would stand in front of the band and conduct. Although I didn't remember this, my parents told me I was quite the novelty and the actual conductor would yield the position to me. Mr. Jager enjoyed that story.
Not gonna lie, I've been listening to this since early-senior year of high school, and I just now understood how the heck a 4:4/3:4 March with a 5:4 B Section, and a 3:4/2:4 Waltz works. Tip for listening to the March: Listen to the snare and cymbal, let them guide you; also never anticipate the beats, just guide into them. Tip for listening to the Waltz: Listen to the high "PAH-PAH, PAH" in the OOM-PAH rhythm, and that will more or less guide you through 90% of the song (screw the ending, you're never going to understand it, just enjoy the final chord).
Thought I was the only one who thought this, the grading system for this is kind of messed up in some areas. Trittico is graded as a 5 on the Texas UIL and this rates it as a 3.5 for an example
I was a dual major in the 70s at Tennessee Tech where Robert Jaeger taught composition. We played this piece in Concert Band under the direction of Dr. James Wattenbarger. Dr. Wattenbarger used to tell us that the rapidly descending parts of third section exactly matched Dr. Jaeger's laugh. Jaeger has a wicked sense of humor and much of his music reflects this. He still resides in Cookeville, TN a town I have come to love and miss with each passng year.
@@zigmaster5199 I saw a comment on a performance of Symphonic Dances from “West Side Story” by Leonard Bernstein arr. Lavender., saying that they played it in 8th grade. I don't think either of these people take the US/Canadian education system, so I am curious where they're from.
Feelings run across the board in this. Few seem to understand the genius in Jager’s composition, as it has been a defining contest piece for more than 60 years. It must be played with great delicacy and precise blend. Agree it’s beyond 3.5 literature. It’s one thing to get through this thing in concert, and quite another to perform it with enough continuous skill to do it justice. Not many bands really can.
Loved this piece. Played it last year in eighth as one of our last pieces for mpa before our final concert :( I miss my band so much but now I must move on too my new one! ~Euphonium gang
Looking back at this again, I never noticed how the bass cl. and bari sax aren’t really used a lot vs the bassoons to help cover the bass line throughout the entire piece.
This is a very fun piece to play, and a lot of people in your typical High School band have trouble with it. I've played more difficult stuff, but none as fun as this one. Our conductor really pushed the Faster and Faster to the end for the 3rd movement.
If only it were actually written that way... It's 3/4 2/4 on the score and the worst part is some of those 2-measure phrases don't even add up to 5, like my percussion part's snare rolls where both half notes are dotted 🤦♂️
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This piece is similar to having a stroke at the circus.
Let me introduce you to a fine man by the name of Charles Ives, then.
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Oh my god, Ives is like an acid trip at a 4th of July celebration. I love him.
@@maagic2031 I've now had the misfortune of listening to Central Park in the Dark... oof
Having played it as a band, I can confirm.
I loved playing Rondo...so energetic!
Claudio Cazador i had the trumpet solo and i nailed it at UIL contesti was so nervous though
Fr me its boring as hell im french horn
ah, memories of Symphonic Band in High School.
bookmarking each movement
march • 0:03
waltz • 2:34
rondo • 5:48
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks, much appreciated!!
This is so helpful
Playing this next Wednesday in HS concert band. Wish me luck oof
Love this piece! One of my top 10 favorites in bad literature (yes, I'm a band director, retired). I first played this in a high school honor band in 1970. In college, this was my final for conducting class. As a school director, I did this piece many times in my 25-year career. Many may know that the composer, Robert Jager was at Tennessee Tech where he conducted band and taught composing. I once emailed Mr. Jager and told him that his Third Suite was one of my top favorites. I also told him that I conducted the Tennessee Tech bands long before he did. He was puzzled about this as he had never heard of me in the school's archives. I told him my dad was a student at Tennesse Tech in the mid-1950s (Tennessee Polytechnic Institute at that time) and that when I was taken to the ball games, I would stand in front of the band and conduct. Although I didn't remember this, my parents told me I was quite the novelty and the actual conductor would yield the position to me. Mr. Jager enjoyed that story.
Not gonna lie, I've been listening to this since early-senior year of high school, and I just now understood how the heck a 4:4/3:4 March with a 5:4 B Section, and a 3:4/2:4 Waltz works.
Tip for listening to the March: Listen to the snare and cymbal, let them guide you; also never anticipate the beats, just guide into them.
Tip for listening to the Waltz: Listen to the high "PAH-PAH, PAH" in the OOM-PAH rhythm, and that will more or less guide you through 90% of the song (screw the ending, you're never going to understand it, just enjoy the final chord).
Braden Blaze just count in 7 and 5 and count half the measures during rests
there’s no way this piece is a 3.5 with the double time signature and the range on some parts (clarinet 1 fs). this has to be a grade 4.5-5 imo
Thought I was the only one who thought this, the grading system for this is kind of messed up in some areas. Trittico is graded as a 5 on the Texas UIL and this rates it as a 3.5 for an example
Yeah. Sheltering Sky is similar in Florida. Rated a 3 which is obviously way too low
@@Anders359 Sheltering sky is like a grade 6!
Exactly.
In Texas it’s a IV
I love how I'm the only one in my band who doesn't hate this song with a burning passion :D
Torsopher - same
Torsopher - I feel u it's a good piece but it's hard
From a composition standpoint, I highly dislike the piece. But the 3rd movement saves me from completely hating it.
I love it lol, basically my whole band does tho.
...I read this comment years ago and only now realizing its you!
(Its Matt)
This is a monsterous, janky composition and I adore it. Especially the haunted circus disaster of a Rondo.
Can't tell if your comment is negative or positive...
The most backhanded compliment I've ever seen.
Im absolutely in love with the last note in the waltz! trumpet trio is amazing!
I was a dual major in the 70s at Tennessee Tech where Robert Jaeger taught composition. We played this piece in Concert Band under the direction of Dr. James Wattenbarger. Dr. Wattenbarger used to tell us that the rapidly descending parts of third section exactly matched Dr. Jaeger's laugh. Jaeger has a wicked sense of humor and much of his music reflects this. He still resides in Cookeville, TN a town I have come to love and miss with each passng year.
Played this the year Final Fantasy 4 came out on Super Nintendo; the two are linked emotionally into my psyche.
7th grade memories. The nostalgia is real. Loved playing this piece.
You played this in 7 th grade! Tf was your main price!
@@zigmaster5199 I saw a comment on a performance of Symphonic Dances from “West Side Story” by Leonard Bernstein arr. Lavender., saying that they played it in 8th grade. I don't think either of these people take the US/Canadian education system, so I am curious where they're from.
@@leonyang3667 ye they likely did it in some kind of all region
loved that first clarinet part my senior year :^)
Caitlin Jones It's a fun chart, isn't it?
I have 3rd part my softmore year and i am enjoying it
Feelings run across the board in this. Few seem to understand the genius in Jager’s composition, as it has been a defining contest piece for more than 60 years. It must be played with great delicacy and precise blend. Agree it’s beyond 3.5 literature. It’s one thing to get through this thing in concert, and quite another to perform it with enough continuous skill to do it justice. Not many bands really can.
Loved playing Waltz and Rondo with Euphonium
Same.
I gotta be honest...I kinda bop to this.
Loved this piece. Played it last year in eighth as one of our last pieces for mpa before our final concert :( I miss my band so much but now I must move on too my new one! ~Euphonium gang
Anyone else feel like the last movement is like a theme song to a clumsy gang of misfits in a play or something.
Yeah
This is on our Community Band concert program for Fall 2024. The Flute part looks fun!
We're playing this at our highschool tomorrow and I love it so much :)
Played this song my Freshman year for euphonium, such a fun piece! Missing High School now 🥲
Looking back at this again, I never noticed how the bass cl. and bari sax aren’t really used a lot vs the bassoons to help cover the bass line throughout the entire piece.
i just started playing this in band and im a bassoonist, let me tell you im so grateful to have the bass line.
6:40 best part by far
This was a very challenging piece to play when I was in HS Band.
This is my audition piece to see what band will I be in next year. ACK
The snare drum piece looks a lot scarier on paper
It was scary to play too
Yes, I played snare for this song, it was fun though
haha I posted this 3 years ago
haha I posted that reply 3 years ago
First movement is very reminiscent of Dragon Quest to me. Love the whole piece ❤️
I always thought that was hella fun to play in eleventh grade. (1st clarinet).
beautiful!!!
05"45" Chapter 6 assignment music; score given in "Modules"
5:49 what a vibe
I love the slight insanity I feel every time I play rondo
Playing this right know for band
There’s no way this is a 3.5 😳
2:34 --> II movement
My Middle School symphonic band is playing this for UIL in March and April
Same here
This is the first piece I played 1st clarinet on in high school... not the best introduction to some of the highest notes of my horn
The memories of 1st trumpet in 8th grade
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15 years this has haunted my memories.... 15 years
Almost 20 😬
As a flute 2 counting the damn rests is the hardest part in waltz
The rondo was so hard to learn but its so fun lmao
7:37 what key is this? Surely not F major right???
4:40 second ending into F
Playing Eb clarinet @ festival - pray for me
I don't know if this is a legitimate complaint, but at about 1:13 and in that whole section, the snares sound really out of time.
I see that, when I practice snare on the piece, it always feels like the timing changed or something from that part to the percussion solo part.
just how its written
4:00 2nd ending into E
7:22 personal time skip for melody
The gap from grade 3 and 3.5 is pretty big
Yeah 3.5 is so close to a 4 imo but 3 is so much easier
Rondo: 5:47
C: 3:08
the memories of 8th grade
no way you played this in 8th grade
I played it in 10th, but we could have handled it in 8th grade. We sent an awful lot of people from our school to All State Band.
Yes we’re playing that this year and I’m in 8th grade
Wow, I wish my school was that good lol. I played it in 9th but almost everyone else was seniors
I played it in sixth grade but I had a pretty easy part so it was okay.
6:58
Why does everyone and their mother feel the need to tell everyone about how they played this when they were 12. Nobody cares.
This is a very fun piece to play, and a lot of people in your typical High School band have trouble with it. I've played more difficult stuff, but none as fun as this one. Our conductor really pushed the Faster and Faster to the end for the 3rd movement.
🤣
But I did play this when I was 12! My mum will tell you so if you ask her but she's not on here.
gay
@@liamoconnell1308 why
Every kid should learn how to play an instrument.
B 1:13
D1 2:04
Waltz f 4:40
Waltz end 5:30
Dat 5/4 tho
If only it were actually written that way... It's 3/4 2/4 on the score and the worst part is some of those 2-measure phrases don't even add up to 5, like my percussion part's snare rolls where both half notes are dotted 🤦♂️
Pretty easy song, I feel like the presto at the end could go faster
bruhhhhhh. this is at least a 4. no way is this a 3.5
lol just count
*dies in first clarinet*
I hate first movement, cymbal doesn’t fit at all
Rondo is fun tho
1:41