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I still say you should absolutely be able to use non-chest items once you've unlocked the chest unique that goes onto them, but only after you've unlocked that unique - IE the Thread should unlock the rune pouch, the gems should unlock the Partisan, the Avernic should unlock the dragon defender, etc.
Hey Tellacon! Loving the chest-locked series! I was thinking it could still fit within the rules if you used items from raids to get components for upgrades from those chests. It’s kinda similar to how you complete quests to get access to certain chests, so it feels like it wouldn’t break the challenge. Just a thought! Keep up the awesome work! ❤
You should be allowed to get a rune pouch because you got the thread also you should be allowed to use the partisan if you get a gem otherwise there will be a lot of dead drops in many chest raids and imo that's boring as a viewer to see a bunch of drops you can use over and over tob would be avernic cox would be wand ect
Get a rune pouch, Ava’s, and barrows gloves! The rune pouch is basically a little chest for runes, the Ava’s is basically a little chest for arrows, and the gloves come from a chest XD
I am allowed to do this! The main problem with barrows gloves is all the other quests surrounding it for the quest points, I'll have to slowly figure out what's possible
For reducing supply usage, a few things to look into: Trapping Kephri melee scarab Floor skip to avoid damage from failing Akkha dps check Akkha butterfly Staying in melee range for Wardens P2. Wardens have much lower melee accuracy than ranged or mage (I calced your setup, in a 150 you'd have a 60% chance of getting hit by melee and an ~83% chance of getting hit by magic/ranged)
Something to note with your moons and barrows gear, is that you should get an armor stand at 55 construction and use that. It reduces repair costs based on your smithing level. If you make serum 208, there's a chance of it giving limestone bricks. Also, moons weapons don't degrade, unlike barrows weapons, so using them without the full set might make sense.
Yes, you should be able to obtain pre-requisite items for chest unlocks. The goal is to have fun and obtain the best your restrictions allow you to get, not to arbitrarily not be able to use endgame items due to pre-reqs
Some tips for ToA, you can block the melee scarab with the first two rows of dung which allows you to kill it with ranged or magic and not have to worry about it. You can set up some tile markers at Ahhka that you can stand on to while in shadow phase to avoid damage if you don't kill them in time. Since your melee stats are your best I would do baba - kephri - zebak - ahhka, this is because then you will hopefully have salts for zebak allowing you to hit higher and more accurately and salts aren't as good for melee as they are for ranged. Goodluck.
I suggested something similar to Vannaka and I'm glad he listened and started to go get the base items that got the drop upgrade for. (I also suggested he be allowed to any quest if it had a slayer monster/boss even if he couldn't get the items from drops to do the quests). So, yes if its a drop that is acquired from a chest, but the other item its used on does not come from a chest you should be allowed to get it.
I think you should be allowed to obtain components once you acquire their upgrades like avernic you can get D defender and such, thats fair since its part of its reward table per se, huge gz on the big progress, much love xo
The whole darts situation is why I wil always advocate for a 99 ranged cape exception on any kind of snowflake, constantly having to return to "completed" content just to grind ammo isnt fun for anyone
Hey Tellacon you can trap the melee scarab in the Kephri room by lining up the dung properly. That way you can focus on the mage scarab and continue to pray range.
I think since slayer through krystilia is chest related and you can purchase rune pouch from slayer store, You are pretty safe to buy the rune pouch since you got the thread trough chest anyway!
You might want to look into red-x baba, it completely removes supply usage from that room and allows you to do it second and be salt boosted for zebak. Also look into using the guthans spear, it's 5 tick stab so it could be better for baba due to the paddles 4t and accuracy mechanics
Check back when you get towards the end of the video for the red-x stuff, said I'm waiting till 300 to use it myself as I think that's fair - guthans is worse than the macahuitl unfortunately by quite a lot even (assuming macuahuitl is on stab)
You definetly should be able to get components if you unlocked it like the thread! One hell of a grind bro! You have to allow yourself some quality of life for the sake of the series!
Just watched this all b2b in 2 sessions while my girlfriend recovers from some health stuff lol. She does play a bit but really was just watching at first because I was, then she requested to finish the series up to where you currently are lol. Nice vids bro, and hope to see that purple here soon! ;)
Do whatever makes you happy and keeps you making content. People aren’t here because you only open chests, they’re here because they like your videos. If you want to break a tiny rule such as this so that you’ll be able to enjoy the content more then go for it. Personally I would care if you made it chest locked but you were allowed to use untradables. I would still watch and enjoy it and would still be an interesting way to progress an account.
I'd say once you hit your limit you can go unlock things that require non-chest components because it would increase the length of the series. Non-Chest things is your series but breaking that would enter in a new era: components.
Just like partian, i think you're allowed to get rune pouch as you got thread from chest as it will be upgraded to item thatr is technically obtained from chest even if LMS is other part or using slayer points.
hey so to conserve supplies you could intentionally die in the begining and do the raid with the locust instead of your supplies hope this helps and gl with the series :)
Not the worst idea but if I recall you start with 5000 points, so dying at the beginning does make your loot chance worse! Could be a fun way to save supplies though
If you are super down bad for a restore, you could go in with a missing inventory slot and no “on a diet” turned on. Then int a few deaths for the locusts before you have any points. As for the ammo saving… you know what you need to do and you aren’t going to like it ;)
could if you unlocked the quiver first and took the exception of being able to obtain the items that go WITH the chest drops, gems/partisan, kodai/wand, avernic/dragon defender etc 🤷♂️
Thread yes. I think you should be able to use the untradeables after you get the componet from a chest. But i also think you should be able to get items to do quests from any sources if chests are not an option and also non-tradeable items should be useable ie torso, void, defender etc.
do zebak after the first helpful spirit and melee it :) if you are salted youll have infinite run energy and basically unlimited prayer so you can kill zebak with melee in a way similar to how you would kill guardians from chambers. if you're two tiles away from zebak when he chomps then it cannot hit you, just like the guardians ranged rock
I say yes for getting a rune pouch since you got the thread also make sure you set your swap left click on clear stump so you don’t accidentally clear your trees.
I’d say you should allow yourself to use quest unlockables. Like the Keris once you get a gem. Also, can’t you train slayer with the items you’ve obtained thru chests? Therefore, you can rack up points and get a pouch thru slayer points if you would allow yourself. Those points are directly from your chest items. But not pick up slayer monster drops.
It's a discovery episode! We learn as we go, I don't think I included the potion in vase in the video - but I did start doing it don't worry, and prayer flicking is mentioned later on
You can get rune pouches at LMS right? LMS does have chests that you loot after winning a fight, so it’s pretty on brand! What if you can do LMS, but only use the beginning gear + what you find in chests
I feel like if you get the ornament kit or add on for items that you should be able to use the item. Obviously only using the items obtained from chests to get them. IE if you want an herb sack from a slayer master, you can do slayer tasks for point to buy the item, but can’t take any of the drops as they don’t come from chests
i dont know if its just the animation being very simmilar but it seems you're using the dual macuahuitl on crush rather than stab wich woulkd be a nice dps increase for toa
For baba I can only tell you to learn redX its really easy especially in the beginning and its worth to do it. By learning it you can do baba without using a single brew nor prayer
Yes! Be able to make the tier items if you get the upgrades for them. You already showed us your capable of getting all your supplies. But we want more content rather than the same gathering steps or most of your time just gathering.
You need slayer to unlock the chest from konar , so you need to unlock slayer masters . I think its a awsome idea and opens up alot of room for you to improve the account wile still being a chest locked acc 😁
Not directly, my rule with raids is basically "if an item can only be obtained in an area where a chest is the goal, it's okay to use it to get to the goal (open the chest) examples include perilous moons potions/fish, cox potions etc etc
Just my 2 cents... The point of a chest locked challenge is for it to be a challenge. It makes sense to make exceptions for quests that unlock content. It doesn't make sense to make an exception and get something to make things easier... That defeats the point of it being a challenge.
I am! It's just a difficult situation because there is loads of raid loot that is kind of useless Keris gems for partisan Kodai with master wand Avernic defender with dragon defender Thread of Elidinis with rune pouch Quiver without an avas etc etc, so I just thought it'd be fun to see what people thought
Nay, the account is at it's final goal, so I have one finale episode left - gonna be trying to make this an hour long send off which includes CoX, ToB and a purple at ToA - if it does well, I'll likely bring it back for a miniseries on the Colosseum! But it's very close to completion, ToB teams are busy with leagues so it's a little bit of a tough one
The finale is being recorded but as ToB relies on other people, over leagues it slowed down! It has one finale episode left which will include CoX, ToB and obtaining a purple, likely to be released at the end of Jan/Feb
didnt settled have the other people raiding use the same gear he had so that it would still be within the rules? i dont think he let people use full max and carry him.
Settled did 1-2 raids with people matching his gear, and then the next 116 with people in max melee to help him get a purple (Watch the end of his finale), which is the same rules I'm going by - when I get to ToB, I will have to complete it with gear matching teammates, then I can have people in any gear - at toa/cox I have to complete it first, then I can team with anyone etc etc
@@Tellacon ahh alright, it's been awhile since I watched that series. I've thoroughly enjoyed this series and personally I think you should restrict it as much as possible regarding non chest items that arent quest requirements. It's less confusing and even thoough itl make getting those useless components feel bad itl make the ones you can use feel soooo good. Whatever you decide I'll continue to watch and support your content. Good luck.
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I still say you should absolutely be able to use non-chest items once you've unlocked the chest unique that goes onto them, but only after you've unlocked that unique - IE the Thread should unlock the rune pouch, the gems should unlock the Partisan, the Avernic should unlock the dragon defender, etc.
100% agreed
would defo add some extra content, as well as making the series feel more fulfilling as you unlock more items 🤷♂️
This!
Bronze-chest mode
Agreed!
Hey Tellacon! Loving the chest-locked series! I was thinking it could still fit within the rules if you used items from raids to get components for upgrades from those chests. It’s kinda similar to how you complete quests to get access to certain chests, so it feels like it wouldn’t break the challenge. Just a thought! Keep up the awesome work! ❤
This "season" is ending soon but I've been considering it because I want to go for a quiver in the future when more chests come out
You should be allowed to get a rune pouch because you got the thread also you should be allowed to use the partisan if you get a gem otherwise there will be a lot of dead drops in many chest raids and imo that's boring as a viewer to see a bunch of drops you can use over and over tob would be avernic cox would be wand ect
This!!!
Integrity matters. There's no point to having the account if you keep changing the rules any time you think it'd be more fun.
Get a rune pouch, Ava’s, and barrows gloves! The rune pouch is basically a little chest for runes, the Ava’s is basically a little chest for arrows, and the gloves come from a chest XD
I think it’d be a fun concept to obtain the items such as a rune pouch from receiving its upgraded component. You earned it.
A Settled and Tellacon video in the same day? Must be Christmas!
Hits the gym...can only train chest
A rune pouch is chest related I'd say, you got the component from a chest, I say get one.
100% agreed
For sure
I'm all for you having free reign to finish a recipe for disaster. You have to get the best out of your chests!
I am allowed to do this! The main problem with barrows gloves is all the other quests surrounding it for the quest points, I'll have to slowly figure out what's possible
For reducing supply usage, a few things to look into:
Trapping Kephri melee scarab
Floor skip to avoid damage from failing Akkha dps check
Akkha butterfly
Staying in melee range for Wardens P2. Wardens have much lower melee accuracy than ranged or mage (I calced your setup, in a 150 you'd have a 60% chance of getting hit by melee and an ~83% chance of getting hit by magic/ranged)
Congrats on being a true raider! Excited to see more!
Something to note with your moons and barrows gear, is that you should get an armor stand at 55 construction and use that. It reduces repair costs based on your smithing level. If you make serum 208, there's a chance of it giving limestone bricks. Also, moons weapons don't degrade, unlike barrows weapons, so using them without the full set might make sense.
Yes, you should be able to obtain pre-requisite items for chest unlocks. The goal is to have fun and obtain the best your restrictions allow you to get, not to arbitrarily not be able to use endgame items due to pre-reqs
One of my favorite osrs creators at the moment. Loving the series
Some tips for ToA, you can block the melee scarab with the first two rows of dung which allows you to kill it with ranged or magic and not have to worry about it. You can set up some tile markers at Ahhka that you can stand on to while in shadow phase to avoid damage if you don't kill them in time. Since your melee stats are your best I would do baba - kephri - zebak - ahhka, this is because then you will hopefully have salts for zebak allowing you to hit higher and more accurately and salts aren't as good for melee as they are for ranged. Goodluck.
I suggested something similar to Vannaka and I'm glad he listened and started to go get the base items that got the drop upgrade for. (I also suggested he be allowed to any quest if it had a slayer monster/boss even if he couldn't get the items from drops to do the quests). So, yes if its a drop that is acquired from a chest, but the other item its used on does not come from a chest you should be allowed to get it.
Red X-ing Ba-Ba would solve one of your problems. Then maybe some butterflying at Akkha's and you should even be able to do a 300 invo for sure!
I think you should be allowed to obtain components once you acquire their upgrades like avernic you can get D defender and such, thats fair since its part of its reward table per se, huge gz on the big progress, much love xo
I knew I smelled some Peek from across the pond :D
So many punches thrown at baba... so many P3 floor slams dodged
The whole darts situation is why I wil always advocate for a 99 ranged cape exception on any kind of snowflake, constantly having to return to "completed" content just to grind ammo isnt fun for anyone
If he unlocks CG corrupted bowfa solved his ammo issue forever
I wonder if you could consider Ava's Accumulator to be technically a chest of sorts that you carry on your back and holds arrows
Hell yeah man! I cant get enough of this content lol
Hey Tellacon you can trap the melee scarab in the Kephri room by lining up the dung properly. That way you can focus on the mage scarab and continue to pray range.
The cache of runes is even better since it's a chest that you got from a chest.
new to the series, so sorry if this is a dumb question... Why not just get bowfa and crystal armour? Fixes the ammo problem and likely better dps.
@@nathanpenrose8465 I go over it a bit but essentially it boils down to a 3000 hour hunter grind to unlock SOTE
I think since slayer through krystilia is chest related and you can purchase rune pouch from slayer store, You are pretty safe to buy the rune pouch since you got the thread trough chest anyway!
And the lms is chest related also 😂😂 you get upgrades from chests after getting kills from pk 😂
Great episode
If you get a shadow, I think based on the intro you're contractually obligated to go "Yeeah hoo~!"
You might want to look into red-x baba, it completely removes supply usage from that room and allows you to do it second and be salt boosted for zebak. Also look into using the guthans spear, it's 5 tick stab so it could be better for baba due to the paddles 4t and accuracy mechanics
Check back when you get towards the end of the video for the red-x stuff, said I'm waiting till 300 to use it myself as I think that's fair - guthans is worse than the macahuitl unfortunately by quite a lot even (assuming macuahuitl is on stab)
You definetly should be able to get components if you unlocked it like the thread! One hell of a grind bro! You have to allow yourself some quality of life for the sake of the series!
Just watched this all b2b in 2 sessions while my girlfriend recovers from some health stuff lol. She does play a bit but really was just watching at first because I was, then she requested to finish the series up to where you currently are lol. Nice vids bro, and hope to see that purple here soon! ;)
Train at Sulphur Nagua it's so much better than crabs. 0 Supplies, AFK & And allowed because it's at PM. -4 Defence so hit +4 more per maracca
Do whatever makes you happy and keeps you making content. People aren’t here because you only open chests, they’re here because they like your videos. If you want to break a tiny rule such as this so that you’ll be able to enjoy the content more then go for it. Personally I would care if you made it chest locked but you were allowed to use untradables. I would still watch and enjoy it and would still be an interesting way to progress an account.
I'd say once you hit your limit you can go unlock things that require non-chest components because it would increase the length of the series. Non-Chest things is your series but breaking that would enter in a new era: components.
Just like partian, i think you're allowed to get rune pouch as you got thread from chest as it will be upgraded to item thatr is technically obtained from chest even if LMS is other part or using slayer points.
Gz man! This video must have taken ages to put together. Really good quality!
Also, have you checked out the new chests on Aldarin upstairs in the small houses? They have any new loot there?
Also have you checked out the new chests in Aldarin upstairs in the little rooms? Any new loot there?
hey so to conserve supplies you could intentionally die in the begining and do the raid with the locust instead of your supplies hope this helps and gl with the series :)
Not the worst idea but if I recall you start with 5000 points, so dying at the beginning does make your loot chance worse! Could be a fun way to save supplies though
If you are super down bad for a restore, you could go in with a missing inventory slot and no “on a diet” turned on. Then int a few deaths for the locusts before you have any points.
As for the ammo saving… you know what you need to do and you aren’t going to like it ;)
Issue is you start the raid with some points so dying early does have an impact, but it would save supplies!
Are you allowing yourself to use the tob chest to stock up on brews restores and stam potions?
I can, mainly going to be using this for cox!
Hey, the quiver comes from a chest 😅
But I can't give it the Ava's for the ammo saving effect 😭😭
could if you unlocked the quiver first and took the exception of being able to obtain the items that go WITH the chest drops, gems/partisan, kodai/wand, avernic/dragon defender etc 🤷♂️
LMS has chests in it, I think you should be able to use the reward points from that and get the rune pouch.
Thread yes. I think you should be able to use the untradeables after you get the componet from a chest. But i also think you should be able to get items to do quests from any sources if chests are not an option and also non-tradeable items should be useable ie torso, void, defender etc.
do zebak after the first helpful spirit and melee it :) if you are salted youll have infinite run energy and basically unlimited prayer so you can kill zebak with melee in a way similar to how you would kill guardians from chambers. if you're two tiles away from zebak when he chomps then it cannot hit you, just like the guardians ranged rock
I say yes for getting a rune pouch since you got the thread also make sure you set your swap left click on clear stump so you don’t accidentally clear your trees.
I’d say you should allow yourself to use quest unlockables. Like the Keris once you get a gem. Also, can’t you train slayer with the items you’ve obtained thru chests? Therefore, you can rack up points and get a pouch thru slayer points if you would allow yourself. Those points are directly from your chest items. But not pick up slayer monster drops.
urn next to the ghost allows you to bank spare pots u got leftover... also zebak you could pray flick for 0 prayer used
It's a discovery episode! We learn as we go, I don't think I included the potion in vase in the video - but I did start doing it don't worry, and prayer flicking is mentioned later on
I absolutely misread the title. Thought it said "Tombs of Amascut, But I Can Only Use Cheats."
You can get rune pouches at LMS right? LMS does have chests that you loot after winning a fight, so it’s pretty on brand!
What if you can do LMS, but only use the beginning gear
+ what you find in chests
Ah yes, Ironman mode. The mode where people stand alone. The mode where players do not do group activities.
ONly the real prevail! Continue on
I feel like if you get the ornament kit or add on for items that you should be able to use the item. Obviously only using the items obtained from chests to get them. IE if you want an herb sack from a slayer master, you can do slayer tasks for point to buy the item, but can’t take any of the drops as they don’t come from chests
i dont know if its just the animation being very simmilar but it seems you're using the dual macuahuitl on crush rather than stab wich woulkd be a nice dps increase for toa
For baba I can only tell you to learn redX its really easy especially in the beginning and its worth to do it. By learning it you can do baba without using a single brew nor prayer
You can do colloseum for the quiver
If boxes count as chests you could catch chins for range training
love the series tellacon! are you using a plugin to highlight your atlatl darts at 18:08? what plugin is that?
I would argue if you use slayer points for rune pouch that's within the rules. You only get slayer points while hunting for brimstone/larran's keys
Runepouch seems fair since you got the thread
Yes! Be able to make the tier items if you get the upgrades for them. You already showed us your capable of getting all your supplies. But we want more content rather than the same gathering steps or most of your time just gathering.
idk if possible to do w your melee weapon, but i would suggest learning red xing for baba it would be a huge supply save
Yes you should be able to get stuff from chest components. If you get steel arrows you could get an accumulator??
You can put supplies in the vase next to the friendly spirit to send to bank. You dropped supplies that's already hard to get 😢😢
Don't worry I only dropped them raid 1 I used it for the rest 😭
@@Tellacon it hurt to watch you drop them
You need slayer to unlock the chest from konar , so you need to unlock slayer masters . I think its a awsome idea and opens up alot of room for you to improve the account wile still being a chest locked acc 😁
And then get the rune pouch with slayer points 😂
is the helping spirit a chest?
Not directly, my rule with raids is basically "if an item can only be obtained in an area where a chest is the goal, it's okay to use it to get to the goal (open the chest)
examples include perilous moons potions/fish, cox potions etc etc
He is alive 😮
"Rule pouch" LMAO
Shit lmao
Did you drop supplies onto the floor? If so, you know there’s a bank deposit next to the guy?
I finally did a solo 150 on my ironman and got a purple, it was a ward, very sad day for rawdongron
lets go another vid!
Yes all puzzle pieces to make final achieved products!
Plz allow range cape assembler bc pain to watch you deal with
oh heck yeah man!
You could just melee zebak so you don’t rip through darts
I do in the video!
Yes you should be able to get supplies for things you get in chests
Exploiting another account to get extra points doesnt feel very in spirit imo
Just my 2 cents... The point of a chest locked challenge is for it to be a challenge. It makes sense to make exceptions for quests that unlock content. It doesn't make sense to make an exception and get something to make things easier... That defeats the point of it being a challenge.
just get the rune pouch man, i would allow it.
Bro is Perry the platypus 8:17:
Shame about the purple... But you can't win it all!! Smashed those raids out man!
You can flick zebak using 0 prayer, butterfly akkkha, which is ez as crap. Same with red x baba
please remain only to chests
I am! It's just a difficult situation because there is loads of raid loot that is kind of useless
Keris gems for partisan
Kodai with master wand
Avernic defender with dragon defender
Thread of Elidinis with rune pouch
Quiver without an avas
etc etc, so I just thought it'd be fun to see what people thought
There's no way to get a ball of wool or unlock lunars, is there?
Sooo is this series over then?
Nay, the account is at it's final goal, so I have one finale episode left - gonna be trying to make this an hour long send off which includes CoX, ToB and a purple at ToA - if it does well, I'll likely bring it back for a miniseries on the Colosseum! But it's very close to completion, ToB teams are busy with leagues so it's a little bit of a tough one
I kinda hate this raid because I suck at Warden.
i think you should use items obtain from chests
is this series on a hiatus now or is it slow side project as you make other videos?
The finale is being recorded but as ToB relies on other people, over leagues it slowed down! It has one finale episode left which will include CoX, ToB and obtaining a purple, likely to be released at the end of Jan/Feb
Yoy get rune pouches from the "chest" in guardians of the rift
yes
didnt settled have the other people raiding use the same gear he had so that it would still be within the rules? i dont think he let people use full max and carry him.
Settled did 1-2 raids with people matching his gear, and then the next 116 with people in max melee to help him get a purple (Watch the end of his finale), which is the same rules I'm going by - when I get to ToB, I will have to complete it with gear matching teammates, then I can have people in any gear - at toa/cox I have to complete it first, then I can team with anyone etc etc
@@Tellacon ahh alright, it's been awhile since I watched that series. I've thoroughly enjoyed this series and personally I think you should restrict it as much as possible regarding non chest items that arent quest requirements. It's less confusing and even thoough itl make getting those useless components feel bad itl make the ones you can use feel soooo good. Whatever you decide I'll continue to watch and support your content. Good luck.
Can you get bofa in your account build
Yep! And... No 😂 I have a 3000 hour hunter grind unless I come up with something better
should be able to use the thread
That's Hardcore
I though this said cheat locked but I liked it anyways p:
Skull skip wardens for more points? >_>
Nice
5:05 you can use potions on the jug to send them to the bank pls stop littering inside the pharoh's tombs ok?
Should definitely allow yourself an avas just for qol and progression, such a waste of your time having to grind out ammo for hours on end
get your buddy to butterfly akkha and you can get more free points
The main issue is my magic is very very lackluster and inaccurate
i take it you dont stream anymore?
bout time
I've got something cooking don't worry 👀
How do people still not put episode numbers in seriously i can’t watch these