I have the fully serrated version of this knife. I bought it as a user. I have many other knives in my collection. I didn’t buy this to fidget/flip. I don’t even check the centering unless I feel it bind or rub. This large blade carries very comfortably in summer clothes. I have several dogs and tick checks are mandatory after all dog walks. This knife, with its precision point is excellent at dispatching ticks, removing slivers, cutting tape on packages and preparing cardboard boxes for the recycling bin. I heartily endorse it if you enjoy a large knife that cuts through lots of different materials with ease. Happy Thanksgiving!
@@davidf3974 I picked up a manix 2 and pm2 with perfect action and centering from a local store . Now the little dragonfly , delica 4 and tenacious took over a year to become smooth . A lot of times it’s just a matter of pivot adjustment or cracking the factory set screws and re setting . Eventually the pivots can be tightened all the way for me .
I own a Stretch 2 in K390 and it has full liners and k390 might be the best steel you can own. It just doesn’t dull and it’s easy to sharpen. Takes a little longer than some but man it just keeps working.
Mine just arrived today (10/09/2024). It's quite tight but perfectly centered for now. I'll try to break it in naturally without touching the pivot or using oil. Maybe give it a few days and then I'll go from there. The main reason I bought one if because I like the lines of the knife plus it's on the larger side. Hard to imagine my smallest Seki City Spydercos are my two Endura 4s.
Wondering if the perceived faults you’ve noticed would discourage you from getting the CPM Magnacut/LC200N Salt versions in the future? Do you think these are just some of the realities of making such a big linerless knife?
I've been noticing wonky edges and bad centering on my recent US made Spydies too. Maybe I just have terrible luck, but seeing your Seki city spyderco with the same issues makes me think something is going on interally at a company level and the customers are left fixing up the factory slop.
@@anthonyburlison2044 when the knife is closed, the blade should rest in the center of the handles. As he showed in the video, his blade rests off-centered more towards one side of the handle when closed.
@@anthonyburlison2044 No worries, it’s how the knife blade sits when it’s closed. Sometimes it’ll lean towards one side of the handle. It’s not a huge deal, but some Spydercos I’ve gotten have leaned so much that the blade is rubbing against the handle.
I bought one of these in my never ending search for the perfect work knife. As a truck driver I don’t want heavy and I need a longer blade to reach the tops of pallets to occasionally cut shrink wrap. Mine came uneven and the washers had grit in them. I’ll try the native chief next. $160 down. This is my 11th work knife in this quest lol.
@@Larryrandom2549This is false information. LW Spyderco knives vary in their washer counts. The Stretch 2 XL you see in the video should have zero washers. The Para 3 LW has only one, meanwhile the Sage 5 LW actually comes with two. It is totally random.
crack high? who else sells rex45 heat treated correctly for $145? who else sells magnacut at perfect hrc for under $160? some models are pricey but most of them are $200 or less. you can get a police 4 in k390 for like $180.
The stretch g10 Cruwear is a great model. Only have a stretch lw k390 no xl stretch yet. I can flick every Spyderco backlock I own. And that’s a bunch.👍🏻
Only FRN knife I have that is centered perfectly & rock solid is my Manix 2 LW in SPY27. Seems like it's the nature of that handle material to be wonky.
It’s spyderco half of my spydercos are off. Sliverax Taiwan a pm2 Colorado and delica Japan all made different countries all off the same amount. My s90v pm2 had a wonky bevel too but it’s such a solid smooth knife I can’t really complain.
I like the idea of a maintenance free and lightweight Spyderco knife. You have to appreciate the idea of the design. When I first get one, I wash it in the sink with dawn and hot water. Then dry it out and lube it up. I do not think you can expect the same smooth action of a knife made with the materials it uses. However, it takes a serious beating and mine got smoother with use. If you bounce a Medford knife into a pile of rocks, it will leave a mark for sure. Moreover, you will shed a few tears looking at it from then on. Likely, you will not find much of a mark on a FRN handle and it is no big deal if you do. Spyderco sells all varieties of blade steels and puts them in an FRN handle. If you feel the handle flexing you are probably doing something you should not be doing. I have never been field dressing a Buck and concerned about blade centering or a drop shut blade action. That knife is ready for the worst conditions not for showing off and using as a play toy.👍😅🤣
@@grimecrimetime:- You should definitely wash (with a household soap) any manufactured item that might be used for food prep or cooking. This includes knives, pots and pans, dishes and tableware, etc. The manufacturing process uses various lubricants to enhance ease of machining and these lubricants should not be consumed, they could be dangerous to your health. Dawn detergent is a totally acceptable degreaser to use on new products. Most instructions to purchasers from manufacturers state that their products (that are to be used in food prep) should be washed before use. Regarding knives that are used in the kitchen, pharmaceutical grade mineral oil can be safely used to lubricate and protect the metal from corrosion with no danger to the end user.
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839I use mineral oil for many things I soak old knives in a bath of it to bring back the luster in stag, bone and horn handle knives. I can see the difference it does and it has no ill effects I can see. I learned about it from a collector’s club article a long time ago. I use another product made by Birchwood Casey called RIG It is a gun grease without any rust removing qualities. I used it on guns for years because it will not affect the bluing finishes, in a cloth with it in the cloth. It protects the metal better than anything I ever used. Renaissance Wax and polish is another good product too. Thank you for your reply.
I've had a few spydercos with uneven secondary bevels, and they all had matching bevels. They must have spent more time on the grinder on one side. That's basically how I fixed it was by spending more time on the stones on the thin side
Im just not into FRN. Spydercos isnt horrible but still aside from it being inexpensive and waterproof it is my least favorite handle material out of the like 30 plus knives I own. Its just too flexible and feels cheap because well frankly, it is.
I've had /got lots of Spyderco knives, and I can honestly say, this exact model is the only one that I had to destroy,,, mine had so many problems which I tried in vain to fix... Just about everything that could be wrong, was wrong,, nearly every other Spyderco I've bought was virtually perfect,, so this model is obviously the exception to the rule,, I'd advise everyone to avoid this one.. After losing my patience over several weeks trying to sort it out, it eventually went in the river, because I didn't even want to give it away, it was that bad,, Caveat Emptor, as they say,,,
No you’re not unlucky.. but it isn’t just Spyderco that has been slipping in the quality dept in the high end knife manufacturing… microtech also sucks compared to 5 years ago and later … these manufacturers are cutting corners I assume to get more knives produced… they aren’t worth the money today imho
japanese spydies are the worst in my opinion, at least value wise. their prices are often crazy for what you get and the fit'n'finish is generally wonky. out of 10 japanese spydies i had maybe 2 with a relatively centered blade. the only exception are the jp spydies from moki, these are generally excellent.
their us and taichung models are generall very good, but their price hikes have become so insane over the past years. not worth it anymore, the competition is just too strong nowadays and the only reason why spyderco is still alive, is their reputation from early days.
being upset you can’t flick open a literal lockback is such a weird thing to complain about. it has blade play because you loosened the pivot and it’s also a linerless handle.
Reasonable complaint, they're saving a ton of $$$ by eliminating all that Xtra mtl/processing, knife is still quite spendy ... China is killing everybody 😢
I have the fully serrated version of this knife. I bought it as a user. I have many other knives in my collection. I didn’t buy this to fidget/flip. I don’t even check the centering unless I feel it bind or rub. This large blade carries very comfortably in summer clothes. I have several dogs and tick checks are mandatory after all dog walks. This knife, with its precision point is excellent at dispatching ticks, removing slivers, cutting tape on packages and preparing cardboard boxes for the recycling bin. I heartily endorse it if you enjoy a large knife that cuts through lots of different materials with ease. Happy Thanksgiving!
I enjoy Sypderco lockback FRN models. It takes me years (honest) for any of them to be flickable though.
So true
I've been able to spydie flick endura models straight out of the box
@@davidf3974 I picked up a manix 2 and pm2 with perfect action and centering from a local store . Now the little dragonfly , delica 4 and tenacious took over a year to become smooth . A lot of times it’s just a matter of pivot adjustment or cracking the factory set screws and re setting . Eventually the pivots can be tightened all the way for me .
I own a Stretch 2 in K390 and it has full liners and k390 might be the best steel you can own. It just doesn’t dull and it’s easy to sharpen. Takes a little longer than some but man it just keeps working.
Mine just arrived today (10/09/2024). It's quite tight but perfectly centered for now. I'll try to break it in naturally without touching the pivot or using oil. Maybe give it a few days and then I'll go from there. The main reason I bought one if because I like the lines of the knife plus it's on the larger side. Hard to imagine my smallest Seki City Spydercos are my two Endura 4s.
Wondering if the perceived faults you’ve noticed would discourage you from getting the CPM Magnacut/LC200N Salt versions in the future?
Do you think these are just some of the realities of making such a big linerless knife?
I love all of my Spyderco knives. They are great and worth the money
I have several I love
I've been noticing wonky edges and bad centering on my recent US made Spydies too. Maybe I just have terrible luck, but seeing your Seki city spyderco with the same issues makes me think something is going on interally at a company level and the customers are left fixing up the factory slop.
I’m a knife novice so bare with me. What is blade centering mean? Thanks
@@anthonyburlison2044 when the knife is closed, the blade should rest in the center of the handles. As he showed in the video, his blade rests off-centered more towards one side of the handle when closed.
@@anthonyburlison2044 No worries, it’s how the knife blade sits when it’s closed. Sometimes it’ll lean towards one side of the handle. It’s not a huge deal, but some Spydercos I’ve gotten have leaned so much that the blade is rubbing against the handle.
I just picked up an Endura 4 Lightweight in K390. It has a horribly uneven grind. Other than that, rock solid. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching sorry to hear that
No, i do not know and you repeating that wont change it @@KnifeThoughts
A knife is a knife is a knife is a knife is a knife. The LW's are anything but for looks.
I bought one of these in my never ending search for the perfect work knife. As a truck driver I don’t want heavy and I need a longer blade to reach the tops of pallets to occasionally cut shrink wrap. Mine came uneven and the washers had grit in them. I’ll try the native chief next. $160 down. This is my 11th work knife in this quest lol.
Yeah I'm gonna try the magnacut Native Chief Lightweight. You should try the Sencut Serene.
@Larryrandom2549 sounds good, I'll keep makin em you keep watchin em 👍
Haha you too
@@Larryrandom2549This is false information. LW Spyderco knives vary in their washer counts. The Stretch 2 XL you see in the video should have zero washers. The Para 3 LW has only one, meanwhile the Sage 5 LW actually comes with two. It is totally random.
Buy a cold steel recon 1. Your work knife search will end there
Spydercos are great but the prices are crack high. I still had to get a military 2. It's an amazing knife. 210 after taxes but worth it.
I bought a Techno 2. I was disappointed but the blade finish is outstanding.
crack high? who else sells rex45 heat treated correctly for $145? who else sells magnacut at perfect hrc for under $160? some models are pricey but most of them are $200 or less. you can get a police 4 in k390 for like $180.
Spyderco Stretch 2 XL vs Police 4?
Police lightweight 100%
The stretch g10 Cruwear is a great model. Only have a stretch lw k390 no xl stretch yet. I can flick every Spyderco backlock I own. And that’s a bunch.👍🏻
Only FRN knife I have that is centered perfectly & rock solid is my Manix 2 LW in SPY27. Seems like it's the nature of that handle material to be wonky.
Yeah maybe
It’s spyderco half of my spydercos are off. Sliverax Taiwan a pm2 Colorado and delica Japan all made different countries all off the same amount. My s90v pm2 had a wonky bevel too but it’s such a solid smooth knife I can’t really complain.
I like the idea of a maintenance free and lightweight Spyderco knife. You have to appreciate the idea of the design. When I first get one, I wash it in the sink with dawn and hot water. Then dry it out and lube it up. I do not think you can expect the same smooth action of a knife made with the materials it uses. However, it takes a serious beating and mine got smoother with use.
If you bounce a Medford knife into a pile of rocks, it will leave a mark for sure. Moreover, you will shed a few tears looking at it from then on. Likely, you will not find much of a mark on a FRN handle and it is no big deal if you do. Spyderco sells all varieties of blade steels and puts them in an FRN handle. If you feel the handle flexing you are probably doing something you should not be doing. I have never been field dressing a Buck and concerned about blade centering or a drop shut blade action. That knife is ready for the worst conditions not for showing off and using as a play toy.👍😅🤣
@@grimecrimetime:- You should definitely wash (with a household soap) any manufactured item that might be used for food prep or cooking. This includes knives, pots and pans, dishes and tableware, etc.
The manufacturing process uses various lubricants to enhance ease of machining and these lubricants should not be consumed, they could be dangerous to your health.
Dawn detergent is a totally acceptable degreaser to use on new products.
Most instructions to purchasers from manufacturers state that their products (that are to be used in food prep) should be washed before use.
Regarding knives that are used in the kitchen, pharmaceutical grade mineral oil can be safely used to lubricate and protect the metal from corrosion with no danger to the end user.
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839I use mineral oil for many things I soak old knives in a bath of it to bring back the luster in stag, bone and horn handle knives. I can see the difference it does and it has no ill effects I can see. I learned about it from a collector’s club article a long time ago. I use another product made by Birchwood Casey called RIG It is a gun grease without any rust removing qualities. I used it on guns for years because it will not affect the bluing finishes, in a cloth with it in the cloth. It protects the metal better than anything I ever used. Renaissance Wax and polish is another good product too. Thank you for your reply.
The only knife I was ok with that had linerless frn is the manix 2 LW. Literally got rid of everything else. Hate hollow frn
I love the design of the stretch. Too bad it is as flimsy as it looks on camera :(. Maybe the g10 cruwear alternative will feel more substantial 😊
I really like Seki Spyderco’s, but I have received a dud, from time to time.
Are the bevel edges at different angles ?
I've had a few spydercos with uneven secondary bevels, and they all had matching bevels. They must have spent more time on the grinder on one side. That's basically how I fixed it was by spending more time on the stones on the thin side
Im just not into FRN. Spydercos isnt horrible but still aside from it being inexpensive and waterproof it is my least favorite handle material out of the like 30 plus knives I own. Its just too flexible and feels cheap because well frankly, it is.
I've had /got lots of Spyderco knives, and I can honestly say, this exact model is the only one that I had to destroy,,, mine had so many problems which I tried in vain to fix...
Just about everything that could be wrong, was wrong,, nearly every other Spyderco I've bought was virtually perfect,, so this model is obviously the exception to the rule,, I'd advise everyone to avoid this one..
After losing my patience over several weeks trying to sort it out, it eventually went in the river, because I didn't even want to give it away, it was that bad,,
Caveat Emptor, as they say,,,
Sorry to hear that
🎉 finally someone else who likes frn
No you’re not unlucky.. but it isn’t just Spyderco that has been slipping in the quality dept in the high end knife manufacturing… microtech also sucks compared to 5 years ago and later … these manufacturers are cutting corners I assume to get more knives produced… they aren’t worth the money today imho
Sad
i love my strech
Picked up a Spyderco Ambitious on sale a while back--blade badly off-center, action sticky and won't loosen up--over-priced crap. Never again.
That’s really bad centering, I would have sent it back.
japanese spydies are the worst in my opinion, at least value wise.
their prices are often crazy for what you get and the fit'n'finish is generally wonky.
out of 10 japanese spydies i had maybe 2 with a relatively centered blade.
the only exception are the jp spydies from moki, these are generally excellent.
They don't seem worth the money or hassle
I think spyderco are very overrated
their us and taichung models are generall very good, but their price hikes have become so insane over the past years.
not worth it anymore, the competition is just too strong nowadays and the only reason why spyderco is still alive, is their reputation from early days.
Not compared to a Benchmade 😉
@@onemanhisdub1969 you’re surely not wrong there lol
being upset you can’t flick open a literal lockback is such a weird thing to complain about. it has blade play because you loosened the pivot and it’s also a linerless handle.
Lol
Knife folk who don’t use their knives are like that.
lol
Reasonable complaint, they're saving a ton of $$$ by eliminating all that Xtra mtl/processing, knife is still quite spendy ... China is killing everybody 😢