not sure how to make do of "smoke machines in lift shafts" as you could trip the smoke alarm, to my knowledge smoke alarms in the lift/elevator shaft both disable the lift/elevator in queston and trip the smoke alarm circuit. but that mitsubishi brought back many memories. also, i only see safety breaks on certain manufacturerds of lift, can you make a video on your main channel on what lifts can you emergeny stop and in thorough detail as this is something of importance and prank factor. Do as many as you can think of. And i underatand you are getting quite concerned regarding how long you can keep the entire hobby going, although i would call this a commitment to spread accurate knowledge as this seems more appropriate, i will request moving onto full detailed looks of lift logics, mechanisms and setups and their respective menus aswell as changing the settings and potentially bringing back lift reprogramming to show the randomness and how far out of the average character you can bring the lift/elevator onto.
We had disabled the fire alarm before doing this. In the UK the fire alarm puts the lift into "fire recall" mode which sends it to the fire exit level, which is different to "fire control mode" which is the mode that the fire switch activates next to the lift doors on the main floor. Inspection mode overrides all other modes, and the lift can still be driven (a lift engineer has more priority than a fire fighter). One time we even tested this for ourselves. With emergency stopping lifts by disconnecting the safety circuit, this can be done on all models of lift. We generally only open the inner doors on lifts where there is no mechanism preventing the door from opening enough to stop the lift (so that we are not forcing anything that doesn't want to be forced). Still have to be careful to not do it exactly as a lift passes a floor as the unlatcher could hit the rollers, or go behind the rollers. This would mean that the inner door won't be able to close as the door roller is now in the way. If this happens, if we are not stuck and are able to get out the lift, we would have to either bypass safety the lift, or move the lift by gravity, until the unlatcher is free of the rollers. The other factor in this is that certain lifts do very weird things when recovering from an emergency stop. The cheapest encoded type ThamesValley has very little positioning in the shaft, and can get lost easily and crashes into the buffer. Also some very genericy Chinese lifts do very weird things. And gen2s have a weird glitch where some sort of software bug makes the lift unable to move if safety is disconnected while in fire control mode. This would not be good if the fire brigade are using it during an actual fire.
@@Beno2-of1gi that's very detailed, and nice, however you did mention that 90s stannah also shuts down and inspection needs to be reset, and I understand as a long term viewer regarding disconnecting the safety circuit to stop the lift, but a detailed video on every single lift is appropriate to spread the necessary knowledge to others, it's something to consider as some others will not realise the concept and claim that "safety breaking the lift is guaranteed to ruin it" I am fairly sure you have seen the debate between me and a user "kloudykatt" and deleted the respective comment as it created too much of a stir up so creating a full on detailed video regarding the subject of emergency stopping through safety break on every single lift you can think of. This can also steer clear from any issue that ish Buckingham and nick mellor will stir up in the future as the knowledge is out there. Also to add, what type of Thames valley logic, the one with the key card?
Can confirm about the glitchy ones, once got stuck in a very dodgy train station lift, the thing moved at like .1 M/S, I slightly shook my body, got stuck in the dang thing for 20 minutes, and I couldn’t call the fire brigade, the lift car blocked my cell service. After waiting a bit they had to switch off the entire lift and I finally managed to escape
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not sure how to make do of "smoke machines in lift shafts" as you could trip the smoke alarm, to my knowledge smoke alarms in the lift/elevator shaft both disable the lift/elevator in queston and trip the smoke alarm circuit. but that mitsubishi brought back many memories.
also, i only see safety breaks on certain manufacturerds of lift, can you make a video on your main channel on what lifts can you emergeny stop and in thorough detail as this is something of importance and prank factor. Do as many as you can think of. And i underatand you are getting quite concerned regarding how long you can keep the entire hobby going, although i would call this a commitment to spread accurate knowledge as this seems more appropriate, i will request moving onto full detailed looks of lift logics, mechanisms and setups and their respective menus aswell as changing the settings and potentially bringing back lift reprogramming to show the randomness and how far out of the average character you can bring the lift/elevator onto.
We had disabled the fire alarm before doing this. In the UK the fire alarm puts the lift into "fire recall" mode which sends it to the fire exit level, which is different to "fire control mode" which is the mode that the fire switch activates next to the lift doors on the main floor. Inspection mode overrides all other modes, and the lift can still be driven (a lift engineer has more priority than a fire fighter). One time we even tested this for ourselves.
With emergency stopping lifts by disconnecting the safety circuit, this can be done on all models of lift. We generally only open the inner doors on lifts where there is no mechanism preventing the door from opening enough to stop the lift (so that we are not forcing anything that doesn't want to be forced). Still have to be careful to not do it exactly as a lift passes a floor as the unlatcher could hit the rollers, or go behind the rollers. This would mean that the inner door won't be able to close as the door roller is now in the way. If this happens, if we are not stuck and are able to get out the lift, we would have to either bypass safety the lift, or move the lift by gravity, until the unlatcher is free of the rollers.
The other factor in this is that certain lifts do very weird things when recovering from an emergency stop. The cheapest encoded type ThamesValley has very little positioning in the shaft, and can get lost easily and crashes into the buffer. Also some very genericy Chinese lifts do very weird things. And gen2s have a weird glitch where some sort of software bug makes the lift unable to move if safety is disconnected while in fire control mode. This would not be good if the fire brigade are using it during an actual fire.
@@Beno2-of1gi that's very detailed, and nice, however you did mention that 90s stannah also shuts down and inspection needs to be reset, and I understand as a long term viewer regarding disconnecting the safety circuit to stop the lift, but a detailed video on every single lift is appropriate to spread the necessary knowledge to others, it's something to consider as some others will not realise the concept and claim that "safety breaking the lift is guaranteed to ruin it" I am fairly sure you have seen the debate between me and a user "kloudykatt" and deleted the respective comment as it created too much of a stir up so creating a full on detailed video regarding the subject of emergency stopping through safety break on every single lift you can think of. This can also steer clear from any issue that ish Buckingham and nick mellor will stir up in the future as the knowledge is out there.
Also to add, what type of Thames valley logic, the one with the key card?
Can confirm about the glitchy ones, once got stuck in a very dodgy train station lift, the thing moved at like .1 M/S, I slightly shook my body, got stuck in the dang thing for 20 minutes, and I couldn’t call the fire brigade, the lift car blocked my cell service. After waiting a bit they had to switch off the entire lift and I finally managed to escape
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