I am in my 70's and when I was young it was easy to get a job and almost all jobs paid enough to live on (for men anyway) ...it's very different now. It's not worth working if a job doesn't pay enough to live on.
Oh! So you would rather claim benefits simply because a job didn’t pay much? What a lazy man’s mentality. What happens to striving and building oneself up the ladder? Nothing is handed on a platter.
It's not getting much coverage in the press but Labour are currently planning to reform laws around money laundering and those reforms will hit those who avoid tax really hard as well.
Don’t take lectures on work ethic from people who wouldn’t recognise the business end of a shovel. All of these individuals hit the generational jackpot in terms of available wealth, assets and resources in this country, they’ve left nothing but crumbs and want to call you lazy because you recognise the futility and feel it as despondency.
Companies taking advantage of their employees doesn't help. I work full time in a thankless 9-5 Monday to Friday job, it pays the bills. But I used to work in a care home - and loved it. I had to leave because the pay was so poor it didn't cover my rent, utilities and food. If my bills were lower, or if I was paid more, I would go back to the care industry with no hesitation. I just need to be able to break even. Add in the strict, non-negotiable 12 hour shifts with no flexible working prospects and stingy annual leave, it creates an unpleasant work environment
@@jay19675 Yes, in 2022, the Home Office made £2.2bn from immigration and nationality fees; and £1.7bn from the NHS surcharge and a further £600 million from the Employer Levies . Look it up.
@@jay19675Yes they do! Go check how much they made from visa applications, immigration health surcharge and school fees across board. It marvels to read the level of myopia and ignorance among the British public to be honest.
There's 300 too many MP's as well, parliament size should be max 350, larger MP constituency's, pay them more, ban second incomes and links to any outside interest, you're there to work for the country not yourself...
How about axing tax-payers money on the following: 1)State sponsored privatisation. 2)Propping up the defence industry 3)The Monarchy 4)Subsidies for the politicians ; free travel and accommodation and unjustfied pay rises. 5)NGOs 6)PFIs 7)Government making donations abroad To name but a few.
As much as I hate to say it politicians should be paid more so that we get better people in politics. But I agree the subsidies for second homes in London should end, you should have a house in your constituency and stay in a budget hotel when attending Westminster
Are they going to sort out their main voters, the musliums, are they going to get them into work? Will they stop their benefits? Or is it going to be a 2 teir benefit system?
How can muslims be their main voters? Firstly, muslims hate Labour's liberal gender policies, secondly they only make up 6% of the population. Illegal migrants in hotels aren't allowed to work, they were until Priti Patel changed the law.
Definitely I've heard about a family called the windsors they haven't worked for generations, get everything handed to them on a plate and are idolised.....
People are sick of the low pay and poor conditions. Employers have avoided the free market laws of supply and demand by having unlimited cheap labour from abroad. Theyre struggling to get the staff? Then they need to offer more pay
You're one of the lucky ones who doesn't have it that badly then. Having worked in mental health for years, I've witnessed individuals so profoundly affected by mental health, despite their best efforts and deepest desires, they were unable to accomplish even the simplest tasks
@@sarah-d6e1ewhy so much in the past recent years? Do you think social media? Never used to be a thing 2011 and before? Now everyone has full blown anxiety?? Well that can’t be good and not a good idea to put them all on the dole for it either?
Also 2 men aged 67 both live in one bedroom council flats. One had a £5000 per year and state pension he has to pay rent and community charge et c so he's left with £10500. The other no private pension gets rent and community charge paid so is left with all his state pension £11000 ? And he gets fuel allowance and free dentist WHY BOTHER.
Same happened with my poor dad 😢 He was shafted 😢 they took majority off my dad so he was left nothing much ,all that hard work from the age of 13 ,came to nothing . Everything u earn is taken back by the system in some way ,working or not working 😕 in the uk . Like my dad always said " At the end of the day ,we are all just a number ,from birth 2 death
but they’re working…hence economic migrants. your statement doesn’t make sense. if you say you want them out, then at least it’s a sensible statement in relation to the point in question.
What jobs? Companies are down sizing leaving britian because of taxes millions of illegals taking jobs so please tell me where these jobs are coming from
A colleague who lives on a council estate says she is surrounded on either side and below are all on benefits and scoff at her as she works. These claimants, some have two generations claiming benefits get up late in the day, loll around smoke cannabis, drink alcohol and have TVs on so loud that she can’t sleep at night.
I think your friend might be exaggerating. Are you aware of how challenging it is to qualify for benefits? Securing sickness benefits requires going through rigorous assessments, backed by extensive and detailed evidence, and even then, many applications are denied. If they’re on Jobseeker’s Allowance, it’s not something you can remain on indefinitely without accepting a job offer. Continued refusal to accept work typically results in have your benefits revoked.
The reason its ’benefit britain’ is -the economy crashed and there are no jobs. Even recent graduates in my university city are struggling to get the most basic supermarket jobs. What are they going to do, suddenly create millions of new jobs out of thin air?
Because its becoming imposible to get a job in the area you spent years training in! As if years of study and practice on the job is not enough now they want 3 years experience on top without giving you the chance to get said experience. Now they look for any job in a supermarket which is becoming harder. @stevec6427
That petition is not a good idea. If it achieves it's aim of forcing an election then it'll set a dangerous precedent that the left will exploit soon enough. The left and right are fairly equal in the UK and iif one side can get a few million signatures then so can the other when it's their turn, especially if they know it works
That petition is not a good idea. If it achieves it's aim of forcing an election then it'll set a dangerous precedent that the left will exploit soon enough. The left and right are fairly equal in the UK and iif one side can get a few million signatures then so can the other when it's their turn, especially if they know it works
Sanctioning people can make the situation so much worse, pushing people further into poverty isn't going to get them into work and it isnt going to make them the sort of people emplpyers want to hire. If we lived in a normal time where wages paid enough to live comfortably maybe theyd work but why give up 40 hours a week of your life to still be living paycheck to paycheck? Most people will work but huge numbers of people wont under these circumstances. Im not surprised more of us are too depressed to work
Maybe factory work or something which ill people can’t do. Desk jobs to make people sit down all day instead of spending their time recovering like they should be allowed to do?
@@Skye.beyond even if there's employment opportunities they rarely pay enough to make it worth coming off benefits. You'd need a job that pays ~ £40,000 after tax to replace the amount received in disability benefits (PIP and UC with disability element)
@@Skye.beyond Competition for jobs is fierce out there. You are thinking about how it was 30/40 years ago. Plus we need at least 5 million jobs to make a dent in the nuumbers we have now and why do people on low pay get top ups from the government? I have a lot of experience in job hunting and it is not so easy. It is sometimes demoralising. It worked out for me but I do think of others too. GP's have been a problem from as far as I can remember. They give you 10 minutes and for them it is simple, sign them off, "unfit to work". I still do not know anyone who wold give a job to someone that lets you down. More trouble that it is worth with the new legislation coming in.
What does the term “shirker” even mean? Who decides if someone is fit for work, usually it is some government appointed private company incentivised to rule everyone is fit for work regardless of their symptoms. Far from a country of lazy shirkers this country actually leaves £23 billion unclaimed in benefits each year. This is just a policy aimed at those Torygraph and Daily Mail readers who believe everything they read.
Yes definitely private equity needs to stick to the private sector and not interfere in the public sector because it costs a load of money which at the end of the day comes out of the public purse
I went on English course by choice, 4 lads were sent on course from the job centre, they hardly turned up and I overheard 2 of them saying, stuff this just say your grandad has died that will get you out of this. They get sent on courses and just never turn up.
Yeh I experienced that too. Went to college for my HNC and there were lots of unemployed single parents there because they got their fees paid and travel expenses - it was to encourage them to get back to work - they never submitted work or attended regularly
Mcguire in talking about the petition said, let THEM sign what they want. So dismissive, thats Mcguire pitting himself against British people who are rightly furious with Starmer and his lying Labour party.
This has been done before. When I worked in manufacturing. I had people being told they had to find work. Some lasted 6 weeks and then went back on to benefits. Some worked for a few weeks and disappeared from the plant. On one occasion we had to search the plant to see if the person was hurt or anything. But we found out he had worked out. All he did was say it was not for him and got back on benefits. Many people who work in businesses will have the same story. I can say this when you got a real worker who wanted to stay they did next and got on well. Disabled people who want to work will find work. However, not all businesses have the facilities for disabled people. This is another abuse of the venerable. Easy targets.
Carers save this country millions, & disabled folk like me that don’t go whinging to SS for care as I’m skjnt & qualify are p”d off at being called a burden , we’ve been bad over by being put on meds we hate and I’ve got off pain killers & the pain it’s just the same as on meds so why the meds for life ? So if ya listen to RFK he’s right about big pharma . I thought of a way for starmer to help himself but he’s a mad head & won’t listen to colleagues never mind a disabled guy . That can’t work .
Government are so out of touch. They want to get to the job centre. They will see a mass of people who successive governments have allowed to become absolutely useless to most employers. The likelihood of many of these people being able to be of any use to an employer is slim to none. I worked in Employability for years...While employers have the choice of overseas workers, why on earth would you choose to employ someone who hasn't worked in 20 years, can barely manage thier own personal care and have mental resilience of a toddler. The expectations of unemployed people are also ridiculous. I had able bodied people who hadn't worked for 10 years demanding £30k a year jobs and refusing to travel over half hour or not wanting early mornings/shift work. There were ALWAYS jobs avaliable in care or hospitality but they were absolutely not entertaining them. I think any long term unemployed person over 40 should just receive vouchers for food/fuel and be left to get on with it. If they WANT to engage absolutely we should invest in them.. but please stop throwing more money away on people who don't want to work and who are unlikely to be any use to an employer
Andrew Pearce is really intolerable. He's hysterical and resorts to shouting the same few unevidenced statements over and over. He needs to be replaced.
You can't force people into work and say uk free country! What we could do/should do is not payout any benefits or allow anyone to be eligible four social housing until you've been working and paying tax for a minimum 10 years! This would mean the average young person couldn't claim until they were 26/28 years old that would incentivise the young into work it would also stop financially incentivised migration which is a huge strain on our social system in particular social housing where UK born people make-up less than 18% of council housing occupants which is just wrong!
Why dont politicians understand at all that they should create jobs for benefit claimants to work & get off benefits? Increasing hourly wages, NI payments, etc, on businesses done by the Govt. leads to businesses sacking employees & it increases unemployment. Govt. Policy: create plans & policies which causes job losses to working class people & keep cutting or stopping benefit payments of such unemployed people. Put tax payers off working & paying taxes by throwing their hard earned tax payments on illegal migrants. This is what Tories did for 14 years and what Labour Starmer Govt. Has done since past 4 months. WHY dont MSNM utter such factual things?
Susanna Reid reading out e mails from people who are unable to work through illness/disability made me laugh really. Of course people unable to work through illness/disability should be fully supported but did she really expect a shirker to send a message in? Kevin Maguire is so out of touch it is worrying.
There are people in my town who have never worked a day in their life living in brand new local authority built housing, have new cars on their drive due to disability allowances, covered in expensive clothing brands and tattoos, they seem to either be in the pub or bookies while their kids are in child care paid for by the tax payer. Meanwhile mugs like me get up every day and go to work to provide for my family and contribute into the system while getting absolutely nothing back. Being unemployed and existing should be hard to encourage those who can work back into work, it seems to me being unemployed and living off the system is the clever option.
This has been a problem with unemployed people for a long, long time. I remember feorge Galloway taking about it, even former dwp minister ian duncan smith. For 40 years we have had a rundown of traditional industries resulting in unemployment. What businesses/employers are going to open factories in these areas furnishing suitable basic jobs that people can do ? These business people don't operate charities. More and fimrs are operating on line. Thus reduced workforce.
@MrKiingpin no it isn't. In 70s and 80s, people unemployed, too sick to work or awaiting asylum applications was far lower than it is now. We just reclassified them. It is proven that a huge improvement is seen in people suffering from stress, mental health and other such issues via a reason to get out of bed and routine. The pride of earning your own money and the friendships forged at work are incredibly beneficial to everyone. People came back from WW1 and worked. I'm sure their PTSD was worse.
if you have anxiety, all you do is take tablets. its nothing to do with waiting for the NHS. this country is a soft touch. take your medicine and get to work!!
It did say employees .. didn’t mention employers.. Labour says its pledge to “not increase National Insurance” applied to “working people”, not employers..🤔😎
Even though the NI increase is on employers we have already been told by my company that any pay rise will be less than anticipated to compensate for extra outgoing burden on the companies finances. So yes in a roundabout way it is a tax on workers.
the government been sanctioning ,people for 12 years, for missing a job centre appointment, or not attending an interview or turning down job, Your house benefits and council tax stopped for 3 months, this increased homelessness, and cost local councils more to find, temporary accommodation in, guest houses and hotels,
The reality as to why so many people are not working is that work for large numbers of people, work just does not pay enough to live. Add to this zero hours contracts and insecure work and the large global corporations that are not paying their fair share of Tax and one can see what is really going on. What is required is wealth redistribution, this would lead to more money in the economy and more employment.
Good start. If you haven't got a valid reason not to work, you should be forced to work, not sponge of the state. But the best thing to do is stop paying for the people in dinghys hotels and stop all their handouts. If I were to migrate to another country, I would be expected quite rightly to pay for myself with no help
I'm struggling with the dichotomy of forcing people into work, in a job market in which the hike in employer's N.I is making it prohibitively expensive for businesses to set them on. Are they not aware that many businesses are having to downsize because of this idiotic policy?
You don't need jails for low level offenders. You need forced community service to earn your place back in society. Therefore cleaning streets, fixing churches, cutting grass, cleaning up grave yards etc. This way you can plug holes in council budgets, make offenders feel worthwhile, enable them contribute positively and teach them new skills.
They just need to stop all the tax avoidance that those very wealthy "patriotic" people use such as buying farmland, using offshore accounts and shell companies while joe bloggs on paye pays full whack.
@@paulburton9386 Doesn't work that well. Individuals with wealth hold too much leverage. Governments could ideally be better in their spending. The amount of money wasted on contracts is crazy. I was at a council building doing a job that required me to go into every room and the amount of money spent on computers and peripherals thrown haphazardly into storage must be enough to prop up the Ukrainian war for a week.
Wages haven’t gone up in line with inflation. Is it any wonder some people don’t see value in working? Everything is more expensive proportionately to history. Just look at the average house price compared to the average wage over history
so they get everyone who is 18 to 21 back to work, which by the way i totally agree with! where's the next batch of school leavers going to work? and the batch after that? the fact is we have a job crisis in this country believe it or not, caused by minimum wage rises, immigration and increase on the working age, someone tell me different!
There is a massive work pool of late 50's out there that HR isn't even replying to, the only time that will change is if there is legislation which says x% of a company's work force has to be 55 to 67. Apple, Ebay, Amazon, Starbucks, Facebook, Google, Adobe, Cisco and a lot more besides didn't pay tax to the tune of between £2 and 5.6 Billion, get the legislation changed make them pay and in 4 to 6 years that £22 Billion deficit hole the government is expecting the tax payer to fill, will be a very small blip in the road. It's staggering that when needed, laws can be changed in weeks, however, when it comes to big multinationals no one wants to deal with them. And sure these companies will posture and bleat about how they will no longer operate in the UK, but the bottom line is they will and they will swallow the cost, because passing it on to the customer will mean loss of sales. Some one needs to take the stand and inform these companies that that's the price of doing business in the UK.
Because they are the ones, who are lobbing governments all over the world 🌎.. They make law just for themselves and their money and power is protected.
Advice to all those seeking work - get a job, pay ever increasing taxes and NI then work even harder and get promoted so you can pay more tax and even more NI (repeat incessantly over the next 50 years) then when you hope to retire you will be taxed again oh - if you have saved and been prudent you will be taxed and penalized - don't fall sick because the NI you paid all your working life is worth nothing because you will be behind those who have never paid into the system. Alternatively, don't bother working, just let the mugs who are working keep you, support all of your needs, rent, food, heating etc.
I think it’s a great idea to take all the people that are on sickness benefit the alcoholics the drug addicts the people who are physically and mentally disabled and turned them into ambulance drivers, teachers policeman firefighters and nurses for MPs like this ?
If you can work you should be made to work. You can’t expect to live for free and be funded by everyone who works. Save the money for the people actually need it and can’t work.
@@lindawoodward305you think immigrants get everything for free. Don’t be silly. Immigrants should be allowed to work as well while their asylum applications go through that way they money can pay for themselves.
Every where we see simplicity in parts and personal. This is how you run a government and make laws and raise taxes. ALways speak the truth is the first law. These reporters and the government need to speak the truth. Please can i go on your program and teach you these things.
Stop importing cheap labour, if companies are struggling to hire they need to pay more. Thats made more difficult by the government importing cheap labour and taxing our businesses.
Young people who live in areas where there's not a lot of employment aren't working because they need to be able to drive to their nearest largest city or town should be able to get funding to drive, and a government rental car. The conservatives published a report that showed there was a lack of economic opportunity in swathes of the country, particularly coastal towns.
I have that same problem at the age of 32, and I asked my work coach for help for a driving licence and got told it's too expensive. So I'm expected to fund on the little I get when I've got not even £150/month after bills to cover food/gas/electric/travel and anything else I need
Gemma as a Slighty older person here, I can remember buses before they were privatised and some started 5.30 am Mon-Sat to allow workers getting to work for early starts
What we need is snoopers like we used to have until the Tories got rid of them, but now I have a list of persons swinging the lead so to speak, and when a person asks for a sick note they should be examined to find out if they are sick. I was self employed and if, so I worked even when I was poorly I didn't work I would not get paid.
Ok let’s do the maths then There is about 900,000 jobs vacancies right now There is officially about 1 million unemployed people And 2.8 million long term sick so where are the jobs coming from of do you just leave 2.8 million homeless with no money
Have to say, I'm growing tired of Maguire and Pierce bickering. Constant interruptions. Not a lot of sense comes out of these segments - a lot of hot air.
Reduce waste, get rid of all the public sector non-jobs, encourage businesses to set up base here with tax incentives, if you have diabetes coz you eat too much pay for your treatment and if you smoke the same and if you can work but choose not to, you're on your own. Whats wrong with eating well, doing some exercise, not smoking, working hard, aspiring to be a business owner and raising children in a nice home with a healthy outlook? It is very simple.
I am in my 70's and when I was young it was easy to get a job and almost all jobs paid enough to live on (for men anyway) ...it's very different now. It's not worth working if a job doesn't pay enough to live on.
Oh! So you would rather claim benefits simply because a job didn’t pay much? What a lazy man’s mentality. What happens to striving and building oneself up the ladder? Nothing is handed on a platter.
Welfare fraud is a drop in the ocean compared to the billionaires gaming the system.
Yep. Someone getting an extra £50 a month through fraud doesn’t compare to tax avoidance schemes.
It's not getting much coverage in the press but Labour are currently planning to reform laws around money laundering and those reforms will hit those who avoid tax really hard as well.
@@stevec6427 I'll believe it when I see it 🤷🏼♂️
Very true. But they also create companies and jobs too
What about the million immigrants on benefits surely we need to get these doctors and engineers back to work.
Pathetic 🙄🙄🤔
@@briankerrison8504 they certainly are.
@@briankerrison8504yeah pathetic that we spend money on doctors and engineers sitting around in hotels all day
@ we’re not spending money on drs & engineers..if we did..issues would be better for us..🙄🙄🤔
@@briankerrison8504yes because people still can’t get a gp appointment
Don’t take lectures on work ethic from people who wouldn’t recognise the business end of a shovel. All of these individuals hit the generational jackpot in terms of available wealth, assets and resources in this country, they’ve left nothing but crumbs and want to call you lazy because you recognise the futility and feel it as despondency.
Companies taking advantage of their employees doesn't help. I work full time in a thankless 9-5 Monday to Friday job, it pays the bills. But I used to work in a care home - and loved it. I had to leave because the pay was so poor it didn't cover my rent, utilities and food. If my bills were lower, or if I was paid more, I would go back to the care industry with no hesitation. I just need to be able to break even. Add in the strict, non-negotiable 12 hour shifts with no flexible working prospects and stingy annual leave, it creates an unpleasant work environment
This is like sitting in a pub at 11.30 listening to the people who have nowhere to go 😭🤣🤣
Immigration is costing us a fortune.
With the summer riots, did not race hate cost us all?
@davman115 The money from visa fees alone more than pays for the cost of asylum-seekers.
@@desmondroberts6034 They get billions in visa fees???
@@jay19675 Yes, in 2022, the Home Office made £2.2bn from immigration and nationality fees; and £1.7bn from the NHS surcharge and a further £600 million from the Employer Levies . Look it up.
@@jay19675Yes they do! Go check how much they made from visa applications, immigration health surcharge and school fees across board. It marvels to read the level of myopia and ignorance among the British public to be honest.
Welfare is nothing compared to the amounts they send to other countries & immigration. Help your own people and stop sending money abroad.
Shirkers so what are over 600 unelected lords then free money free food and drink
getting paid to do f-all its all bs
There's 300 too many MP's as well, parliament size should be max 350, larger MP constituency's, pay them more, ban second incomes and links to any outside interest, you're there to work for the country not yourself...
How about axing tax-payers money on the following:
1)State sponsored privatisation.
2)Propping up the defence industry
3)The Monarchy
4)Subsidies for the politicians ; free travel and accommodation and unjustfied pay rises.
5)NGOs
6)PFIs
7)Government making donations abroad
To name but a few.
As much as I hate to say it politicians should be paid more so that we get better people in politics. But I agree the subsidies for second homes in London should end, you should have a house in your constituency and stay in a budget hotel when attending Westminster
Are they going to sort out their main voters, the musliums, are they going to get them into work? Will they stop their benefits? Or is it going to be a 2 teir benefit system?
It only applies to 18-21 year old Brits.Reeves has done her homework , illegal immigrants in 3*+ hotels are exempt!
Muslims aren’t very likely to vote Labour given their stance on Gaza.
How can muslims be their main voters? Firstly, muslims hate Labour's liberal gender policies, secondly they only make up 6% of the population.
Illegal migrants in hotels aren't allowed to work, they were until Priti Patel changed the law.
@@prideofdurham4776they are no longer hotels..they are refugee refuge processing buildings..🙄🙄🤔
@@HarvesterYTpathetic 🙄🙄🤔
Definitely I've heard about a family called the windsors they haven't worked for generations, get everything handed to them on a plate and are idolised.....
Sanction their benefits!
They own a lot of land. They don't pay IHT. And they don't pay the bedroom tax on their. 900 spare bedrooms.
People are sick of the low pay and poor conditions. Employers have avoided the free market laws of supply and demand by having unlimited cheap labour from abroad. Theyre struggling to get the staff? Then they need to offer more pay
They just put up employers tax contributions now who is going to employ them when the employers have less money😮. Are they that thick 🙉
I have anxiety and work full time because anxiety to not afford my bills out weighs the anxiety of leaving the house
There is a difference between having anxiety and having a severe mental impairment.
You have no avoidant behaviour you don’t have severe anxiety
You're one of the lucky ones who doesn't have it that badly then. Having worked in mental health for years, I've witnessed individuals so profoundly affected by mental health, despite their best efforts and deepest desires, they were unable to accomplish even the simplest tasks
@@sarah-d6e1ewhy so much in the past recent years? Do you think social media? Never used to be a thing 2011 and before? Now everyone has full blown anxiety?? Well that can’t be good and not a good idea to put them all on the dole for it either?
Perhaps you could deal with societies bigotry towards disabled people
Thank you Susanna for reading out the viewers comments about their disabilities and worries. 🙏
The word "FORCE" says it all.
Also 2 men aged 67 both live in one bedroom council flats. One had a £5000 per year and state pension he has to pay rent and community charge et c so he's left with £10500. The other no private pension gets rent and community charge paid so is left with all his state pension £11000 ? And he gets fuel allowance and free dentist WHY BOTHER.
Same happened with my poor dad 😢 He was shafted 😢 they took majority off my dad so he was left nothing much ,all that hard work from the age of 13 ,came to nothing . Everything u earn is taken back by the system in some way ,working or not working 😕 in the uk . Like my dad always said " At the end of the day ,we are all just a number ,from birth 2 death
This wont work anyway, you cannot force those with serious MH issues back into work. Youll just force them to harm themselves or someone else..
Attacking bullying the ill and disabled
Stop changing the subject !
Starmer is the problem 100%
Does that mean all the economic migrants as well?
but they’re working…hence economic migrants.
your statement doesn’t make sense. if you say you want them out, then at least it’s a sensible statement in relation to the point in question.
No we've to to work to pay taxes to pay for them allegedly.
@@teresabelshaw4262 how so? considering they are economic migrants. they are working and paying taxes, some more taxes than yiu
No they're exempt
If they aren't working then they aren't economic migrants. If it was benefits they wanted, they'd go to Germany or France where they'll get more
Would that include illegal immigrants here for the free ride? No, didn't think so.
What jobs? Companies are down sizing leaving britian because of taxes millions of illegals taking jobs so please tell me where these jobs are coming from
What companies are downsizing and leaving? Any examples?
There isn’t enough work out there for a million people
A colleague who lives on a council estate says she is surrounded on either side and below are all on benefits and scoff at her as she works. These claimants, some have two generations claiming benefits get up late in the day, loll around smoke cannabis, drink alcohol and have TVs on so loud that she can’t sleep at night.
Nothing wrong with that at all
Well tell her to move then
I think your friend might be exaggerating. Are you aware of how challenging it is to qualify for benefits? Securing sickness benefits requires going through rigorous assessments, backed by extensive and detailed evidence, and even then, many applications are denied. If they’re on Jobseeker’s Allowance, it’s not something you can remain on indefinitely without accepting a job offer. Continued refusal to accept work typically results in have your benefits revoked.
Ed Ball they kicked him out as an mp. itv need to do the same
The reason its ’benefit britain’ is -the economy crashed and there are no jobs. Even recent graduates in my university city are struggling to get the most basic supermarket jobs. What are they going to do, suddenly create millions of new jobs out of thin air?
Why are graduates going for supermarket jobs? There's loads of graduate schemes and you don't even need a profession relevant degree
@ because they can’t get jobs in their fields and they have bills to pay.
Because its becoming imposible to get a job in the area you spent years training in! As if years of study and practice on the job is not enough now they want 3 years experience on top without giving you the chance to get said experience. Now they look for any job in a supermarket which is becoming harder. @stevec6427
SIGN THE PETITION.... TO HELP GET RID OF STARMER
That petition is not a good idea. If it achieves it's aim of forcing an election then it'll set a dangerous precedent that the left will exploit soon enough. The left and right are fairly equal in the UK and iif one side can get a few million signatures then so can the other when it's their turn, especially if they know it works
Share n sign the petition calling for general election .
That petition is not a good idea. If it achieves it's aim of forcing an election then it'll set a dangerous precedent that the left will exploit soon enough. The left and right are fairly equal in the UK and iif one side can get a few million signatures then so can the other when it's their turn, especially if they know it works
No thanks, The election was democratic, deal with the result.
Sign the petition, Change is coming, The world is watching
The Tories lost the election, get over it!
Get the Private Equity firms out of the DWP as all they're interested in is the PROFIT, not getting folk into employment.
Sanctioning people can make the situation so much worse, pushing people further into poverty isn't going to get them into work and it isnt going to make them the sort of people emplpyers want to hire. If we lived in a normal time where wages paid enough to live comfortably maybe theyd work but why give up 40 hours a week of your life to still be living paycheck to paycheck? Most people will work but huge numbers of people wont under these circumstances. Im not surprised more of us are too depressed to work
Give us decent wages then we will work wheres all the jobs coming from????
What employer is going to employ someone who does not want to work? I don't believe all of this anyway. There are no propper jobs out there.
Maybe factory work or something which ill people can’t do. Desk jobs to make people sit down all day instead of spending their time recovering like they should be allowed to do?
@@Skye.beyond even if there's employment opportunities they rarely pay enough to make it worth coming off benefits. You'd need a job that pays ~ £40,000 after tax to replace the amount received in disability benefits (PIP and UC with disability element)
@@Skye.beyond Competition for jobs is fierce out there. You are thinking about how it was 30/40 years ago. Plus we need at least 5 million jobs to make a dent in the nuumbers we have now and why do people on low pay get top ups from the government? I have a lot of experience in job hunting and it is not so easy. It is sometimes demoralising. It worked out for me but I do think of others too. GP's have been a problem from as far as I can remember. They give you 10 minutes and for them it is simple, sign them off, "unfit to work". I still do not know anyone who wold give a job to someone that lets you down. More trouble that it is worth with the new legislation coming in.
Every job has been chopped up to share amongst the increasing many, talk about arrested development, its been going on since 1972!!!
@@fpvangel4495 I’ve heard that there aren’t enough jobs for everybody. Therefore this is maybe just a scheme to get more money into the NHS.
What does the term “shirker” even mean? Who decides if someone is fit for work, usually it is some government appointed private company incentivised to rule everyone is fit for work regardless of their symptoms. Far from a country of lazy shirkers this country actually leaves £23 billion unclaimed in benefits each year. This is just a policy aimed at those Torygraph and Daily Mail readers who believe everything they read.
We have a higher rate of worker sickness than anyone else. That's not a lie
Maguire looking panic stricken.
Yes definitely private equity needs to stick to the private sector and not interfere in the public sector because it costs a load of money which at the end of the day comes out of the public purse
I went on English course by choice, 4 lads were sent on course from the job centre, they hardly turned up and I overheard 2 of them saying, stuff this just say your grandad has died that will get you out of this. They get sent on courses and just never turn up.
Yeh I experienced that too. Went to college for my HNC and there were lots of unemployed single parents there because they got their fees paid and travel expenses - it was to encourage them to get back to work - they never submitted work or attended regularly
I don't know if people can get away with that now, they seem to sanction benefits at the drop of a hat.
Good…! Get on with it…!! They make me sick.
Mcguire in talking about the petition said, let THEM sign what they want. So dismissive, thats Mcguire pitting himself against British people who are rightly furious with Starmer and his lying Labour party.
crazy having the husband of a government minister in a debate, on top of Kevin just shouting over the top of everyone
That man is married to an MP. Get Richard back on he thinks it's funny get him off.
This has been done before. When I worked in manufacturing. I had people being told they had to find work. Some lasted 6 weeks and then went back on to benefits. Some worked for a few weeks and disappeared from the plant. On one occasion we had to search the plant to see if the person was hurt or anything. But we found out he had worked out. All he did was say it was not for him and got back on benefits. Many people who work in businesses will have the same story. I can say this when you got a real worker who wanted to stay they did next and got on well.
Disabled people who want to work will find work. However, not all businesses have the facilities for disabled people. This is another abuse of the venerable. Easy targets.
It would help if I had a GP and public transport that wasn't a joke.
I want to work but I need fixed.
Carers save this country millions, & disabled folk like me that don’t go whinging to SS for care as I’m skjnt & qualify are p”d off at being called a burden , we’ve been bad over by being put on meds we hate and I’ve got off pain killers & the pain it’s just the same as on meds so why the meds for life ? So if ya listen to RFK he’s right about big pharma . I thought of a way for starmer to help himself but he’s a mad head & won’t listen to colleagues never mind a disabled guy . That can’t work .
Government are so out of touch. They want to get to the job centre. They will see a mass of people who successive governments have allowed to become absolutely useless to most employers. The likelihood of many of these people being able to be of any use to an employer is slim to none. I worked in Employability for years...While employers have the choice of overseas workers, why on earth would you choose to employ someone who hasn't worked in 20 years, can barely manage thier own personal care and have mental resilience of a toddler. The expectations of unemployed people are also ridiculous. I had able bodied people who hadn't worked for 10 years demanding £30k a year jobs and refusing to travel over half hour or not wanting early mornings/shift work. There were ALWAYS jobs avaliable in care or hospitality but they were absolutely not entertaining them.
I think any long term unemployed person over 40 should just receive vouchers for food/fuel and be left to get on with it. If they WANT to engage absolutely we should invest in them.. but please stop throwing more money away on people who don't want to work and who are unlikely to be any use to an employer
Totally lacking in human compassion and wanting to kick the disabled when they are down, bet you cannot wait for the return of the Nasty Party?
Totally lacking in human compassion and wanting to kick the disabled when they are down, bet you cannot wait for the return of the Nasty Party?
Poor Kevin is floundering badly trying to defend the indefensible.
🤣👍
No bots on this petition. Just many angry people.
just being able to sign a petition multiple times Laughable
Andrew Pearce is really intolerable. He's hysterical and resorts to shouting the same few unevidenced statements over and over. He needs to be replaced.
FREE LEGAL AID NOW FOR MIGRANTS,
BRITISH JACK S/-/IT DIDDLY EXCEPT MORE TAXATION.
You can't force people into work and say uk free country!
What we could do/should do is not payout any benefits or allow anyone to be eligible four social housing until you've been working and paying tax for a minimum 10 years!
This would mean the average young person couldn't claim until they were 26/28 years old that would incentivise the young into work it would also stop financially incentivised migration which is a huge strain on our social system in particular social housing where UK born people make-up less than 18% of council housing occupants which is just wrong!
Why dont politicians understand at all that they should create jobs for benefit claimants to work & get off benefits?
Increasing hourly wages, NI payments, etc, on businesses done by the Govt. leads to businesses sacking employees & it increases unemployment.
Govt. Policy: create plans & policies which causes job losses to working class people & keep cutting or stopping benefit payments of such unemployed people. Put tax payers off working & paying taxes by throwing their hard earned tax payments on illegal migrants. This is what Tories did for 14 years and what Labour Starmer Govt. Has done since past 4 months.
WHY dont MSNM utter such factual things?
love it when these two are guests together :)
Susanna Reid reading out e mails from people who are unable to work through illness/disability made me laugh really. Of course people unable to work through illness/disability should be fully supported but did she really expect a shirker to send a message in? Kevin Maguire is so out of touch it is worrying.
There are people in my town who have never worked a day in their life living in brand new local authority built housing, have new cars on their drive due to disability allowances, covered in expensive clothing brands and tattoos, they seem to either be in the pub or bookies while their kids are in child care paid for by the tax payer. Meanwhile mugs like me get up every day and go to work to provide for my family and contribute into the system while getting absolutely nothing back. Being unemployed and existing should be hard to encourage those who can work back into work, it seems to me being unemployed and living off the system is the clever option.
This has been a problem with unemployed people for a long, long time. I remember feorge Galloway taking about it, even former dwp minister ian duncan smith. For 40 years we have had a rundown of traditional industries resulting in unemployment.
What businesses/employers are going to open factories in these areas furnishing suitable basic jobs that people can do ? These business people don't operate charities. More and fimrs are operating on line. Thus reduced workforce.
What did people do 50 years ago before we told them they were bi-polar, depressed or had PTSD?
Do you actually not believe in bi polar or PTSD? unemployment is lower than it was in the 70s and 80s
@MrKiingpin no it isn't. In 70s and 80s, people unemployed, too sick to work or awaiting asylum applications was far lower than it is now.
We just reclassified them.
It is proven that a huge improvement is seen in people suffering from stress, mental health and other such issues via a reason to get out of bed and routine. The pride of earning your own money and the friendships forged at work are incredibly beneficial to everyone.
People came back from WW1 and worked. I'm sure their PTSD was worse.
@@footballoldboy4818 Maybe people got through it by smoking back in those days.
I think Suzanne is quite caring and always sticks up for for people with job issues and uc & disabilities shes understanding
if you have anxiety, all you do is take tablets. its nothing to do with waiting for the NHS. this country is a soft touch. take your medicine and get to work!!
It did say employees .. didn’t mention employers.. Labour says its pledge to “not increase National Insurance” applied to “working people”, not employers..🤔😎
Sign the petition get labour out
And risk getting the likes of Liz and her band of right wing nuts into power?
Even though the NI increase is on employers we have already been told by my company that any pay rise will be less than anticipated to compensate for extra outgoing burden on the companies finances. So yes in a roundabout way it is a tax on workers.
the government been sanctioning ,people for 12 years, for missing a job centre appointment, or not attending an interview or turning down job,
Your house benefits and council tax stopped for 3 months, this increased homelessness, and cost local councils more to find, temporary accommodation in, guest houses and hotels,
Why is the husband of the home secretary doing a segment on politics? This shouldn't be allowed
The reality as to why so many people are not working is that work for large numbers of people, work just does not pay enough to live. Add to this zero hours contracts and insecure work and the large global corporations that are not paying their fair share of Tax and one can see what is really going on. What is required is wealth redistribution, this would lead to more money in the economy and more employment.
😂😂 Tory boy 'can we talk about this government' don't want to talk about the last one's whom I back. Typical Tory tw@t 😂😂
That was like listening to GBeebies!!
Good start. If you haven't got a valid reason not to work, you should be forced to work, not sponge of the state.
But the best thing to do is stop paying for the people in dinghys hotels and stop all their handouts. If I were to migrate to another country, I would be expected quite rightly to pay for myself with no help
u can’t force people into work breach of human rights and freedom smh 🤦♂️
I'm struggling with the dichotomy of forcing people into work, in a job market in which the hike in employer's N.I is making it prohibitively expensive for businesses to set them on. Are they not aware that many businesses are having to downsize because of this idiotic policy?
You don't need jails for low level offenders. You need forced community service to earn your place back in society. Therefore cleaning streets, fixing churches, cutting grass, cleaning up grave yards etc. This way you can plug holes in council budgets, make offenders feel worthwhile, enable them contribute positively and teach them new skills.
Governments can either put up taxes or reduce spending. The cowards always go for the former.
They just need to stop all the tax avoidance that those very wealthy "patriotic" people use such as buying farmland, using offshore accounts and shell companies while joe bloggs on paye pays full whack.
Tax the rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@paulburton9386 Doesn't work that well. Individuals with wealth hold too much leverage.
Governments could ideally be better in their spending. The amount of money wasted on contracts is crazy. I was at a council building doing a job that required me to go into every room and the amount of money spent on computers and peripherals thrown haphazardly into storage must be enough to prop up the Ukrainian war for a week.
Wages haven’t gone up in line with inflation. Is it any wonder some people don’t see value in working? Everything is more expensive proportionately to history. Just look at the average house price compared to the average wage over history
so they get everyone who is 18 to 21 back to work, which by the way i totally agree with! where's the next batch of school leavers going to work? and the batch after that? the fact is we have a job crisis in this country believe it or not, caused by minimum wage rises, immigration and increase on the working age, someone tell me different!
There is a massive work pool of late 50's out there that HR isn't even replying to, the only time that will change is if there is legislation which says x% of a company's work force has to be 55 to 67.
Apple, Ebay, Amazon, Starbucks, Facebook, Google, Adobe, Cisco and a lot more besides didn't pay tax to the tune of between £2 and 5.6 Billion, get the legislation changed make them pay and in 4 to 6 years that £22 Billion deficit hole the government is expecting the tax payer to fill, will be a very small blip in the road. It's staggering that when needed, laws can be changed in weeks, however, when it comes to big multinationals no one wants to deal with them. And sure these companies will posture and bleat about how they will no longer operate in the UK, but the bottom line is they will and they will swallow the cost, because passing it on to the customer will mean loss of sales. Some one needs to take the stand and inform these companies that that's the price of doing business in the UK.
Because they are the ones, who are lobbing governments all over the world 🌎..
They make law just for themselves and their money and power is protected.
So 13 million out of work but only 8 hundred thousand jobs vacancies... governments own figures.....that's why it wont work
Advice to all those seeking work - get a job, pay ever increasing taxes and NI then work even harder and get promoted so you can pay more tax and even more NI (repeat incessantly over the next 50 years) then when you hope to retire you will be taxed again oh - if you have saved and been prudent you will be taxed and penalized - don't fall sick because the NI you paid all your working life is worth nothing because you will be behind those who have never paid into the system. Alternatively, don't bother working, just let the mugs who are working keep you, support all of your needs, rent, food, heating etc.
How was poll tax removed?
I think it’s a great idea to take all the people that are on sickness benefit the alcoholics the drug addicts the people who are physically and mentally disabled and turned them into ambulance drivers, teachers policeman firefighters and nurses for MPs like this ?
There are more people unemployed than there is vacancies. And with the new gov employer tax there will be more added to the unemployment list
If you can work you should be made to work. You can’t expect to live for free and be funded by everyone who works. Save the money for the people actually need it and can’t work.
No you can’t expect to live for free you have to get out there and work to help keep the illegal immigrants who get everything for free
@@lindawoodward305you think immigrants get everything for free. Don’t be silly. Immigrants should be allowed to work as well while their asylum applications go through that way they money can pay for themselves.
Every where we see simplicity in parts and personal. This is how you run a government and make laws and raise taxes. ALways speak the truth is the first law. These reporters and the government need to speak the truth. Please can i go on your program and teach you these things.
Working does not pay these days. after you haue paid your bills you are working for nothing
We need to stay out of the EU .
It is more like force people who are ill to work or add on 4 yrs more before we can retire.We have to pay for all this lot coming in.
Stop importing cheap labour, if companies are struggling to hire they need to pay more. Thats made more difficult by the government importing cheap labour and taxing our businesses.
Somewhere, Margaret Thatcher is laughing her head off that the Labour Party is embracing her policies.😂😂
Meanwhile King Charles is to receive £45 million of public money as Crown Estate income soars.
can they speak for a few seconds without interrupting. Its frustrating and just childish. like i can barely hear the arguments without shouting
Young people who live in areas where there's not a lot of employment aren't working because they need to be able to drive to their nearest largest city or town should be able to get funding to drive, and a government rental car. The conservatives published a report that showed there was a lack of economic opportunity in swathes of the country, particularly coastal towns.
or get the Public Transport system back under Public control
I have that same problem at the age of 32, and I asked my work coach for help for a driving licence and got told it's too expensive. So I'm expected to fund on the little I get when I've got not even £150/month after bills to cover food/gas/electric/travel and anything else I need
@SimonSmith-yd6tt that's tricky as some public transport doesn't start until after shifts can start
Gemma as a Slighty older person here, I can remember buses before they were privatised and some started 5.30 am Mon-Sat to allow workers getting to work for early starts
@@SimonSmith-yd6tt True where I experience in that wouldn't be able to get to job on time
Not useless to me a retired miner my pension as gone up 53%
What we need is snoopers like we used to have until the Tories got rid of them, but now I have a list of persons swinging the lead so to speak, and when a person asks for a sick note they should be examined to find out if they are sick. I was self employed and if, so I worked even when I was poorly I didn't work I would not get paid.
Ok let’s do the maths then
There is about 900,000 jobs vacancies right now
There is officially about 1 million unemployed people
And 2.8 million long term sick so where are the jobs coming from of do you just leave 2.8 million homeless with no money
Robbing farmers should be jailed
Lets see what the spring budget brings us with more tax to pay
Have to say, I'm growing tired of Maguire and Pierce bickering. Constant interruptions. Not a lot of sense comes out of these segments - a lot of hot air.
Reduce waste, get rid of all the public sector non-jobs, encourage businesses to set up base here with tax incentives, if you have diabetes coz you eat too much pay for your treatment and if you smoke the same and if you can work but choose not to, you're on your own.
Whats wrong with eating well, doing some exercise, not smoking, working hard, aspiring to be a business owner and raising children in a nice home with a healthy outlook?
It is very simple.
К вашему сведению, диабет возникает совершенно не потому что кто-то много ест. 😊
I have been saying this for years
Great so according to the daily mail and Reeves we will not pay anymore in tax. This includes council tax then yeah?