The Wind That Shakes the Barley - Church scene

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  • This scene is from the movie, The Wind That Shakes the Barley, where Damien O'Donovan (Cillian Murphy) get's into an argument with Father Denis (Denis Conway).
    English subtitles are available!
    This film can be bought at amazon.com - goo.gl/0y5XBw and can be currently, as of this posting, viewed on Netflix.

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  • @daltonbroadus3927
    @daltonbroadus3927  9 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    For some reason, the volume is low. If it's not high enough, or if you can't get it high enough, turn on the subtitles.
    *Also, using headphones should work.
    **The subtitles I made, not auto.

    • @TehMJB
      @TehMJB 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Dalton Broadus Cheers

    • @fieldagentryan
      @fieldagentryan ปีที่แล้ว

      The 12 apostles are from our nation - roman pig spy !

    • @eamonnmulhern2332
      @eamonnmulhern2332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a young father Jack Hackett

  • @PartizanSlav
    @PartizanSlav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    The actor who played the priest was brilliant in this scene

    • @samuelmcgovern
      @samuelmcgovern 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Denis Conway. A fine actor.

    • @pricklypear300
      @pricklypear300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Find it perplexing that any male actor who is good at shouting without cracking their voices get the title of good actors, like they are naturally good at being pissed off, what's so special about this one

    • @davidh7071
      @davidh7071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@pricklypear300 I think in this context the actor gets the part of a powerful, infallible clergyman you would have seen in early 20th century Ireland across very well. They really did terrify the churchgoers with their sermons and speeches.

    • @mattuboyle5891
      @mattuboyle5891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never thought of that..good point

    • @EverGreen1888
      @EverGreen1888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Agreed. He plays the elitist, privileged Catholic priest in every community we all knew very well.

  • @IbnShahid
    @IbnShahid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +621

    Bloody hell, Father Ted is more intense than I remember it.

    • @jjrj8568
      @jjrj8568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your typical catholic irish nuttah

    • @ConnorPatrickNolan003
      @ConnorPatrickNolan003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No father jack was just more heavy set then

    • @Rm-ss5gv
      @Rm-ss5gv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jjrj8568 fuck off

    • @aidansimpson5511
      @aidansimpson5511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Down with this treaty

    • @IbnShahid
      @IbnShahid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@aidansimpson5511 Careful now!

  • @stillsearching1284
    @stillsearching1284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    This movie is so good. Everyone should watch it.

    • @pauliewalnuts100
      @pauliewalnuts100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah except for the commie horseshit Loach always insists on bringing up.

    • @pauliewalnuts100
      @pauliewalnuts100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Christy Dolan Sunshine I'm not saying it's not accurate, I'm saying Loach is a socialist and always want to portray it in a positive light.

    • @pauliewalnuts100
      @pauliewalnuts100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Christy Dolan Didn't Lenin say the point of socialism was for a transition into communism?
      Loach has a history of portraying socialism in a positive light and that was his agenda here. He has every right to because there is a socialist aspect to the old war of independence. Doesn't mean socialism isn't complete bollocks.
      Also are you a child? You're threatening to slit someone's throat an a TH-cam comment section.

    • @pauliewalnuts100
      @pauliewalnuts100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Christy Dolan Yeah you're 12 years old.

    • @countycricklewood
      @countycricklewood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pauliewalnuts100 Do shut up! Come across as a knownfuck all Yank and Orange Orangutan President groupie!

  • @cosmopolitan79
    @cosmopolitan79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I’m not Irish. I’m a Korean. As you know, Korea has been divided into South and North since 1945. And what’s worse we even had a war against our own people. It was so so sad when Teddy ordered to kill his younger brother, Damien. They were good comrades, friends, brothers and Irish. What they had fought for? It was such a good movie.

    • @wb8311
      @wb8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What a comment from south Korea.
      좋은 평 잘 읽었습니다

    • @victorocallaghan6791
      @victorocallaghan6791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Thanks for taking note of our small but beautiful country. As an Irishman I have to greatly admire South Korea which was also occupied by the Japanese then divided and then went to war on itself in 1950, Even though South Korea went through a rough couple of decades after. It is one of the most successful democracies today

    • @GJ1607.
      @GJ1607. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The partition of ireland was the worst crime ever inflicted on the irish people, hopefully it will be rectified soon enough Tiocfaidh ar la

    • @undercoverbrother67
      @undercoverbrother67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wb8311 he didn't say he was from South Korea.

    • @eireann5381
      @eireann5381 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@undercoverbrother67
      North Koreans can't access TH-cam, they barely have food and 0 cars you think they're sitting there on laptops or phones

  • @brianharbut4054
    @brianharbut4054 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    One of the best films I’ve ever seen. It prompted me to buy many books on the Irish troubles & open my eyes to the truth. Saoirse 🙏

    • @pats3071
      @pats3071 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you’ve read The End of the Hunt by Thomas Flanagan

    • @shinrapresident7010
      @shinrapresident7010 ปีที่แล้ว

      What exactly was the truth?

    • @aw3046
      @aw3046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shinrapresident7010 After studying Irish history, the eventual realisation is that all the conflict could have been avoided at so many times, and the fact the guns went off was a huge tragedy.
      There is no one "side" that can be solely blamed. The British, the Republicans, the Unionists, the Free State, etc. were all doing awful stuff because they believed in their cause. If people had tried harder to mend the divides, so many lives would have been saved.
      The British shouldn't have made the Easter Rising Rebels martyrs. The Unionists shouldn't have brought in so many guns. The Republicans shouldn't have killed the police. The British should have stopped the B&Ts and the Auxies from being sadists. The Republicans should have waited until WW1 was over.
      It goes on and on. Every time until 1998, everything kept going wrong.
      The thing to do now is to encourage moderates and peacemakers into parliament and to not encourage future bloodshed through endless propagada.

    • @ritvars7357
      @ritvars7357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@aw3046​ It's kind of insane to ke that after studying irish history that's your takeaway. You could easily place an overwhelming majority of the blame on the British. If not for colonisation and the poor material conditions the irish were subjected to then there wouldn't have been a violent uprising at all. You say the republicans shouldn't have killed the police but what is one supposed to do when an empire refuses to let go of their country you can't just vote away colonisation it's never happend like that. Realistically the politics and negotiations have done nothing much. Ireland will only really be united after the UK collapses

    • @ritvars7357
      @ritvars7357 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@aw3046 Also if the republicans had waited until after ww1 their chances to actually gain any sort of freedom would've have drastically lowered as Britain would've been able to focus solely on stomping them out. The republicans choice to strike when Britain was weak was smart. Do you really think that they stood any chance to gain independence democratically

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Powerful, powerful stuff. Ask most English people (and I do mean most) in 2022 what they know of this period and the decades that preceded and followed it - and they will just stare blankly back at you.
    I am English and proud to be so, but the behaviour of my forebears in Ireland and elsewhere for centuries was bloody and shameful. This is a cinematic masterpiece. Books are best, but if you haven't the time, this film will give you a peep through a cack in the door. Powerful stuff indeed.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes I totally agree

    • @undercoverbrother67
      @undercoverbrother67 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shameful and proud? How about find things to be proud of other than which piece dirt you were born on.

    • @petebondurant58
      @petebondurant58 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      We're all very impressed with your self-loathing virtue signaling. 😂

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petebondurant58 Quiet down you illiterate barbarian.

    • @petebondurant58
      @petebondurant58 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @ Don't you have to spend all day whining about Cromwell, or some other English injustice that hasn't actually impacted your existence in any way? 😂

  • @smugidiot2413
    @smugidiot2413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    “If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organization of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain. England would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs.” ~ James Connolly

    • @Gonkawonga
      @Gonkawonga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Great words!

    • @larryoconnor7094
      @larryoconnor7094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gonkawonga
      Opinions differ.

    • @christinequinn5355
      @christinequinn5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And that is unfortunately what has happened. Ever since the Rebellion and the Civil War, this country has betrayed EVERY word of James Connolly. The Catholic Church, the Irish landowning capitalists and bankers allied with English wealth and greed, have also betrayed the Irish people.
      De Valera, Archbishop McQuaid and successive Irish Governments have consistently and endlessly looked down upon the workers of Ireland. Their "national" solution was EMIGRATION - year after year and decade after decade.
      And now with Global Capitalism, Corporate tax havens, the same old gombeen traitors and another sold out Government - an actual coalition of the supposedly opposing parties of Fianna Fail and Fianna Gael - the betrayal continues.
      Working poverty and homelessness are growing in Ireland. Young, hardworking couples have NO CHANCE to own a home - despite the much acclaimed GDP (an indication of CORPORATE wealth, not the wealth of the people).
      This is why the political stature of Sinn Fein is growing by leaps and bounds on both sides of the "border". Their day has now come.

    • @saoirsehaslonglegs2313
      @saoirsehaslonglegs2313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christinequinn5355 I agree with your wise words.& i wiah Ireland & Sinn Fein every success .☘❤🙏🏿

    • @themsmloveswar3985
      @themsmloveswar3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes.... "real" socialism.

  • @MyFavorite_Scenes
    @MyFavorite_Scenes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Man this film looks incredible, now i want to watch it

  • @christineelizabethhorner5829
    @christineelizabethhorner5829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    For a second it alluded me that this is a movie and I was shocked. Lol. Great work.

    • @lr5221
      @lr5221 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me toooo

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it didn't, it eluded you.

  • @Sasjazz
    @Sasjazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Cillian Murphy brought me here! 😍

    • @kevbhoy5716
      @kevbhoy5716 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jim Halfpenny 😂😂😂😂

  • @praguespring8125
    @praguespring8125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    de Valera knew people would not accept the treaty, so he sent Michael Collins and Arthur Griffith to take the blame.

    • @kgizzle92
      @kgizzle92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What a jealous coward...he sent Collins knowing he would not get a better settlement then scapegoated him...de Valera knew what he was doing...removing his biggest competitor for leadership of Post-War Ireland!

    • @soulsurfer639
      @soulsurfer639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Collins was the UK's beyaatch, can't believe he took the UK's shite deal . De Valera wanted a Republic and that's what he fought for during two wars!

    • @bailmccabe9089
      @bailmccabe9089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@soulsurfer639 The threat of terrible war, it is easy in hindsight to say what should have been done! If they had not signed the treaty, what do you believe would have happened?

    • @soulsurfer639
      @soulsurfer639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bailmccabe9089 The UK was already stressed beyond capacity dealing with other freedom fighters from its (more lucrative) colonies. Had Collins rejected the deal, it probably would have led to war with the British but we would have kept our dignity and eventually become a Republic... rather than excepting colony status like that traitor Billy Collins... killing his own Irishmen for the British Crown

    • @bailmccabe9089
      @bailmccabe9089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@soulsurfer639 The British boast at the time was "the sun never set in the British Empire". If there had been a war then, many people would have been killed, not just directly in the fighting but only potentially from the food shortages or diseases which would be caused by a prolonged war or struggle! If there had been a war, who else would have gotten involved, what other ramifications would it have had?

  • @DutchDixon94
    @DutchDixon94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Brilliant scene from an excellent movie!

  • @marjtierney
    @marjtierney 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing performance by the gentleman who played the priest.

  • @DaveE7492
    @DaveE7492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Such a great scene in an excellent film!

  • @paulherlihy9290
    @paulherlihy9290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    A great great movie, a Ken Loach classic. I believe based on a true story about the O'Donovan brothers.
    People tend to forget that Ireland went to civil war over the signing of the treaty.
    Some modern day Irish Politicians also conveniently forget about atrocities committed by the free state forces armed with British weapons against the anti treaty men. People that they fought side by side with in the War of Independence.
    As for the Church. I remember pulpit politics coming loud and clear on a Sunday in the '70's when I was a boy.
    They wouldn't dare encroach into those areas now.

    • @paulherlihy9290
      @paulherlihy9290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pegitwillcomebacktoyou a socialist utopia must exist somewhere. It has to do. Problem is I don't think it's on planet earth.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting

    • @Len0Grady
      @Len0Grady ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Church lost it’s power the moment the Mammies of Ireland found out it was abusing their children on an industrial level. The clergy still thinks it can weather this, so long as they maintain control of public education. This is why it’s vital to winkle them out of our classrooms.

    • @paulherlihy9290
      @paulherlihy9290 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pegitwillcomebacktoyou well said Sir! Indeed with what exactly?

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulherlihy9290 You tedious brainwashed moron.

  • @scipioamericano6934
    @scipioamericano6934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Respect 🫡 for the Irish. Chose to resist in the face of danger. Mexican American here

  • @demorcef
    @demorcef 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Very good education for those of us in America with Irish background who don't understand the complexities and causes of the Irish Civil War and Independence etc.

    • @michealkelly4933
      @michealkelly4933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not all on here true do not exactly true

    • @72mossy
      @72mossy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wasn't always Darby O Gill and diddly idle do over here

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I agree

    • @vincentmcnabb939
      @vincentmcnabb939 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As long as you remember it is heavily slanted to a hard-left bias and certainly not always true in its rhetoric or framing. The Irish Civil War was not fought over socialist and economic issues, for a start.

    • @petebondurant58
      @petebondurant58 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a Marxist propaganda film

  • @seaghanobuadhaigh8240
    @seaghanobuadhaigh8240 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the copy of Volume II of the 1970s Lectionary in English on the pulpit! I'd know that binding a mile off!

  • @PathsOfReason
    @PathsOfReason 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The movie is brilliant. I love it.

  • @iangarner8857
    @iangarner8857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is such a great film

  • @wattsnottaken1
    @wattsnottaken1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Love this movie since I was a kid 🔥

  • @fartsfartington9019
    @fartsfartington9019 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Turns out, propaganda resonates loudests when private property is at risk.

  • @_Snapper
    @_Snapper ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This scene is so relevant today

  • @gillyfraser
    @gillyfraser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The brilliant Denis Conway.

  • @andrewg.carvill4596
    @andrewg.carvill4596 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That period in Irish history was very tragic and complicated. In the civil war of 1922-23, there were both middle class and working class people on both sides, and there were convinced Catholics on both sides, and it left a legacy of bitterness behind it for decades. De Valera was initially the leader of the anti-treaty side (Damien's side in the movie) but nowadays it's fashionable to despise him 'for siding with the Catholic Church'. My father used to say the policy of the British Empire in the 20th Century was 'Divide and Quit'.

    • @khairiaris
      @khairiaris 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brits 19th century, Divide and Conquer.
      Brits 20th Century, Divide and Quit.
      Brits 21st century, Divided and Confused

  • @sierranevadatrail
    @sierranevadatrail ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Talk about good acting. Reminds me of actors of bygone days like Robert Mitchum who, after a performance, you could swear it was real life.

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    This is a shocking and telling film, written and acted with care and passion.
    I wonder to myself why more British and Irish people today do not know more, read more, learn more about this tragic page in the sometimes grim history of these islands.
    I am still slightly queasy (as an Englishman of a largely English bloodline) about the retention of the Six Counties.
    One day there will be a united Ireland, one imagines. Ireland will be happier. Great Britain (sans NI) Will be both happier and less burdened by a crippled tax write-off of a province that brings no joy, only hate.
    Some will be less happy. Let them sail away on their bitterness and learn to hate another land as they seem to hate their own.
    I may be wrong.

    • @poundlandbandit6124
      @poundlandbandit6124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think the people of the north should only join when they want to through a democratic vote. The early Irish state was overrun by nationalism and threw in with the Catholic Church. We’ve come out of both these shackles now and are building a better future.

    • @soulsurfer639
      @soulsurfer639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well written Banjoluke 🙂

    • @jaybot303functionerror4
      @jaybot303functionerror4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      As Northern working class English man, the film made me read up on the History we aren’t taught about what the British Empire got up in to colonial times and how badly treated many working class community’s were still being treated though out the Empire despite its riches & there sacrifice in WW1.
      The Black & Tans are an awful part of that History as is how English Establishment viewed the Irish in this time period, British citizens yet treated very much as colonial subjects or a lot worse for centuries.
      At time portrayed in film massive sections British working class still didn’t have the vote, there were very little home’s for heroes as promised after WW1, in which 50,000 Irish had volunteered for so the Irish could have Home rule, yet again the English established lied to those who primarily died to protect the Establishments interests.
      Tanks were sent into Glasgow to stop workers asking for more rights, the Black & Tans sent to Ireland, I get why people rose up in the R.A. who despite what the propaganda says where very different to the provo’s that came later, hitting military personnel rather than civilians, which I can never get behind, what’s the point of becoming what you fight against.
      Hope the Irish realise that a lot of Brits had more in common with them than those that apparently rule in our in interests or the Black & Tan’s of the times, its just working class history particularly revolt against ruling class is suppressed.
      In 1980’s as a kid I got to see how the minors were treated in Yorkshire including members of my own family & later look at the Establishment propaganda portraying their own people as the enemy within.
      It’s a bit of a sick joke the current English government saying they want to open a new coal mine ( especially with what we now know about the environment)as they told the workers they weren’t profitable or viable which is now obviously a complete lie.

    • @mg6585
      @mg6585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaybot303functionerror4 Very well said.

    • @larryoconnor7094
      @larryoconnor7094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps so.

  • @sarraconnolly3774
    @sarraconnolly3774 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my favourite film ever

  • @juv7
    @juv7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    As much as it pains me to say the Priests didn’t know what poverty was they didn’t care they lived a lavished life whilst others staved and yes the Catholic Church my church sided with the rich 🟢⚪️🟠

    • @vincentmcnabb939
      @vincentmcnabb939 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Apart from those that did. It’s a bit like the ‘no priest died in the famine’ lie of another Irish movie The Field.

    • @brownsey1
      @brownsey1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why would it pain you to say it? The Catholic Church was a blight on Ireland.

    • @vincentmcnabb939
      @vincentmcnabb939 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@brownsey1 Maybe you should join the Orange Order.

    • @brownsey1
      @brownsey1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vincentmcnabb939 Ah good one! As pointed out here in this vid, your Catholic Church was no friend to Republicanism. I'm sorry to tell you, but an institution that hides priests who abuse children isn't something to herald. I take pride in your jibe, even though I'd want absolutely nothing to do with the Orange Order ever. Off to Church with you buddy.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vincentmcnabb939 Maybe you should stop defending paedophiles you lazy minded prick.

  • @curseditem8354
    @curseditem8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Happy st patrick's day lads

  • @lvhao5105
    @lvhao5105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jesus...I thought that church sermons at my church were overbearing. Apparently I haven't attended the Catholic Church in Ireland....

    • @eliazarcone
      @eliazarcone 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was the Catholic Church in the 1920s, they're much lamer now I assure you

    • @Unicysis
      @Unicysis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@eliazarcone They were even worse back then during the New Testament times when Paul went to Rome

  • @j0hnegan
    @j0hnegan ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Best film on this era of Irish history. The Church™ has proven itself to be complicit in the oppression of men and women throughout Irish history. As bad--sometimes worse--than the Crown.

    • @mrvictorian4004
      @mrvictorian4004 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That sounds very pathetic. The Church is ultimately the one thing that held true Irish culture up and now that it's gone away, Ireland has turned into a soleless mess.

    • @ostae
      @ostae ปีที่แล้ว

      Without the Catholic Church Ireland would be nothing more than a part of the United Kingdom, a vulgar Wales with potatoes

    • @condelevante4
      @condelevante4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The priest has it right. Damian and the anti-treatyites like to portray their opponents as wanting the treaty forgetting that it was a compromise and that the British had promised a terrible escalation of they didn’t sign. So they got as much as they could. Totally unrealistic to think that the other side would cede 100%

  • @patrickloftus_
    @patrickloftus_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That would be an ecumenical matter.

  • @raleighburner1589
    @raleighburner1589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fighting Irish against the empire

    • @noelmoran5725
      @noelmoran5725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Catholic Church ruined Ireland,we are Irish an Proud

    • @raleighburner1589
      @raleighburner1589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Christy Dolan who desinged the white house ...

    • @raleighburner1589
      @raleighburner1589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Christy Dolan I knew that in 1987 205 years after Kilkenny boy built it

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes inspiring as hell

  • @marcusregan4815
    @marcusregan4815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a scene. What a movie.

  • @Unicysis
    @Unicysis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:41 - "Get out of my church!"
    YOUR church? You mean YOU built it?

  • @gl3110
    @gl3110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good acting.

  • @EngPheniks
    @EngPheniks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A priest is never supposed to preach politics from the altar especially in the presence of children. That has been and shall always be my thought. No wonder the church has split up many times in history because of different opinions.

  • @CrazzedKor
    @CrazzedKor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We have that opportunity! Our Irish brothers in the North dont but who cares about them? We got ours.

    • @AwRighttttt
      @AwRighttttt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I hope you are taking the piss but if not go away gobshyte your the shame and descrace to this country

    • @soulsurfer639
      @soulsurfer639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Piss off DRACO, Erin go bragh! 🇮🇪❤

  • @conordorrian1652
    @conordorrian1652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This was the inevitable downfall of the Catholic Church in Ireland. As my father always said it was "Always riding two horses with the one arse". They always were on the side of Bag of silver , no matter who had their hands on it. This film is the one true film which by the relationship of the two brothers explains the disintegration of the true promise of a Free Ireland for all. The british gov has just moved to Dublin since' 16.

    • @kkandsims4612
      @kkandsims4612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ireland tho is still got the 2 larger Catholics in the world tho first Italy second Ireland 3ed the USA ( well idk if the us is Catholic more then Christian we got a lot of them .)

    • @christinequinn5355
      @christinequinn5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Powerful statement - "The British gov has just moved to Dublin since '16".
      As the influence of Sinn Fein continues to grow, we will see even more troubles. They are the true descendants of James Connolly and are greatly feared by the Wealthy Establishment ( in Britain and Ireland), the corrupt Globalist government in Dublin, and, of course, the wealthy Catholic Church.

    • @georgesahmad1790
      @georgesahmad1790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christinequinn5355 As a Palestinian who happens to know Ireland (and deeply love your country) I totally agree with you. Anglo-Saxon capitalism (both British and Yankee) plus their Zionist counterparts fear a truly independent Ireland , that's why they're trying to reduce your great people to a global tax haven.

    • @saoirsehaslonglegs2313
      @saoirsehaslonglegs2313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgesahmad1790 God Bless Palestine,&may Sinn Feinn finally have their day.God Bless Ireland.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christinequinn5355 James Connolly, the founder of the Irish Labour Party? Wash your mouth out. The true descendants of James Connolly are the party he founded for all their ills or shilling for middle class public servants. Not the party that sided with William Martin Murphy during the 1913 Lockout, the man who called for Connolly’s execution in 1916. In fact, Arthur Griffiths denounced the ITGWU for the Lockout.
      Sinn Fein have tried co-opting every Irish patriot. From Wolfe-Tone to Robert Emmet to Thomas Francis Meagher to James Connolly. Sinn Fein doesn’t have exclusive right on Irish patriotism no matter what claptrap they spew. Connolly was not a member and he sure as hell wouldn’t be a member today either based the mockery of socialism they propose.

  • @meganmurphy8218
    @meganmurphy8218 8 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Gwan Damien

    • @longmemory1620
      @longmemory1620 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ Megan - did you see the deleted scene where Damien puts on a mask and used gas to drive the brits mad

    • @KittredgeRitter
      @KittredgeRitter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are both of you guys Irish?

    • @patrickmongan7984
      @patrickmongan7984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Horny

  • @larry1824
    @larry1824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best Irish movie in decades

  • @LadyBlackfyre
    @LadyBlackfyre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this movie, it a great movie!

  • @RonanWard
    @RonanWard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The actor playing the priest is Denis Conway not Seán McGinley.

  • @jonathandunne43
    @jonathandunne43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Get out Damien ye peaky blinder

  • @Amyd525
    @Amyd525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Christ, alter serving in that church was never the same for me after watching this

  • @tomwotton9
    @tomwotton9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never recognise anyone but watching this I was thinking, he looks just like the guy from Peaky Blinders, and lo and behold it is him!

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cillian Murphy an underrated actor

  • @brownsey1
    @brownsey1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The timeline and, as a result, the context is a bit confusing here. The military courts weren't established until late September 1922. And the first IRA executed under those courts wasn't until November of that year. It's been so long since I watched this, but have the Four Courts been bombarded at this stage in the film? If so, and we're into the autumn of 1922, Damien and the other anti-Treatyites would not have been freely walking around. The so-called Munster Republic had been set up by Lynch July 1922, and Cork was a hotbed of anti-Treaty IRA activity.

  • @sr7129
    @sr7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an amazing movie

  • @bklufc
    @bklufc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was the worst wedding Father Dougal ever officiated....

  • @mrpotato442
    @mrpotato442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great acting.

  • @DutchDixon94
    @DutchDixon94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Great speech by Damien!

    • @dml7329
      @dml7329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's quoting Liam Mellows I believe

  • @christineterry3079
    @christineterry3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need to see this film 🎥

  • @zsedcftglkjh
    @zsedcftglkjh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Sacrificing eternity for 30 pieces of nationalized silver. Waste.

  • @RedStarRogue
    @RedStarRogue 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It is tragic, as also shown in Michael Collins, how the original members of the IRA pretty much turned on each other over the treaty. Could Ireland have been labeled as a puppet state after that like Vichy France or was it a more complicated situation?

    • @hodgebodge
      @hodgebodge 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only complication is that the previous French 3rd republic had much longer continuity and widespread international recognition than the Dáil.

    • @junkybabes
      @junkybabes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      British did it on purpose, divide and conquer, divide even more when leaving... look at india!!

    • @junkybabes
      @junkybabes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      British tactic... divide a country when you conquer and when you leave!!!

    • @TravisLoneWolfWalsh
      @TravisLoneWolfWalsh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tyson L the treaty was never meant for the people of Ireland all it was. Was a bunch of fools kissing up to England because they thought they could get a better deal if the signees of the 1916 proclamation were still alive they would have sided with the IRA

    • @olliephelan
      @olliephelan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TravisLoneWolfWalsh
      Things are really NEVER that simple.

  • @Seamus322
    @Seamus322 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My grandda stood up for the Republic- got a one-way ticket to Sydney for his efforts.

  • @aislingirish4503
    @aislingirish4503 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cillian Murphy you legend

  • @Rosie-fj7yr
    @Rosie-fj7yr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BRILLIANT.!!!!

  • @mariabennett1543
    @mariabennett1543 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely brilliant movie

  • @Winaska
    @Winaska 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    give the church leaders the benefit of the doubt; they were doing what they thought was right by trying to prevent rebellion because it would mean violence. they counseled peace: men of God are supposed to do that.

    • @Winaska
      @Winaska 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      which rules do you mean?

    • @peterfitzgerald7734
      @peterfitzgerald7734 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Winaska.............putting the church on a pedestal and admiring them...............have you no brains............don't you have a clus how the church treated the Irish people..................the most evil bastards you will ever see, .............you must be a priest?

    • @trevscribbles
      @trevscribbles 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think it's admirable to understand that not all leaders of the church were criminals. And in fact, some were, and are, quite the opposite. But at this stage, I think it's also very fair to say that an organisation harbouring as many rapists, paedophiles, and murderers as the catholic church has been doing for two thousand years, perhaps you'd be better off being a good person without them.

    • @Winaska
      @Winaska 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I mean...the Irish were persecuted by The English for almost 400 years for being Catholic, and the priests were being mistreated right up there with the layfolk. thats just plain and simple history. So, yeah, for you to say that the Church mistreated the Irish, is like saying that the left hand mistreated the right hand. or that the eft eye mistreats the right eye. were some bishops complacent in order to keep the peace? yes. were some higher ups in bed witht eh english opressors in order to try and keep things not-so-bad, yes. but it didnt work.
      and some priests truly and simply did want to keep the peace, and abhored bloodshed. so yeah, give them the benefit of the doubt

    • @trevscribbles
      @trevscribbles 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Winasaka "Benefit of the doubt" can only be used when facts have not been produced. You should probably ask God why two thousand years of his representatives have been raping children, just for a start like. 'Cause there's a LOT more heinous shit to get through after that.

  • @thecominglightofgood583
    @thecominglightofgood583 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a Kashmiri I understand the plight of Irish people. Long live Ireland. Your country has suffered much.

  • @Coughlan1916
    @Coughlan1916 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Up the old Brigade

  • @Berzelmayr
    @Berzelmayr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that's Denis Conway and not Sean McGinley

  • @jonathandunne43
    @jonathandunne43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fr don't Fook with the peakys

  • @TravisLoneWolfWalsh
    @TravisLoneWolfWalsh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    To have faith is one thing but the land that was stole from the people should be returned to the people. The riches duty is to help the poor and if they will not then the people will take back what is theirs

  • @andresduff9091
    @andresduff9091 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember I got this movie pirate on DVD outside college. Great movie. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Public and free (like the church?😂) stand up for the boys in green

  • @connorestelle5059
    @connorestelle5059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Based Father versus the virgin schismatic revolutionaries

  • @seanohare5488
    @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very well acted and written scene shows both sides of the reason of the civil war

  • @invisibleman4827
    @invisibleman4827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I read somewhere that you paddies started fighting amongst yourselves now. The King offers you a peace treaty, and you start a war about it. That's funny, don't you think? A war about peace."
    Tommy Shelby, 1921

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a fictional character.

    • @invisibleman4827
      @invisibleman4827 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ And?

    • @johnnyfeen1347
      @johnnyfeen1347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its off by a year for a start. Irish Civil War started in 1922.

    • @doomedrpgproject4473
      @doomedrpgproject4473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@invisibleman4827And? Was there an initial point to your comment? Peaky Blinder's is a horsehite TV show where fantasy 'IRA' women blow up a pub with pram bombs in the 1920s. Quoting it as if it has value is like believing that watching Russel Crowe's Gladiator automatically confirms an honours degree in Classic Civilization.

    • @invisibleman4827
      @invisibleman4827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doomedrpgproject4473 You are making waaay too much about what I just said.

  • @williamwallace2278
    @williamwallace2278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Once again! The men if cloth let the people down

    • @Kelly14UK
      @Kelly14UK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't listen to them, any denomination. Paid arseholes. Follow your conscience.

    • @soulsurfer639
      @soulsurfer639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'll say a hail Mary for the both of yas!

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sad but true

  • @paddypup1836
    @paddypup1836 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s the wind that blows the barley into the neighbours field that does no good. Now !!

  • @slimmachado5405
    @slimmachado5405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The least realistic part of this scene is a Novus Ordo mass in the 1920’s

  • @djbillybopdjbillybop2817
    @djbillybopdjbillybop2817 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Movie.

  • @johnpatrick6998
    @johnpatrick6998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn shame the church didn't excommunicate molester and abuser Priests and Nuns.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes true

    • @ostae
      @ostae ปีที่แล้ว

      The Church has practically ceased to practice excommunication since Vatican II
      If it excommunicated all Catholics, priests and laity, who deserved it, there would be millions and you would cry out for intolerance.

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have known the days...

  • @jack-zz9hb
    @jack-zz9hb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great scene. Should have changed the word 'rich' to 'British'.

    • @PaulMacReamoinn
      @PaulMacReamoinn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huh? he should have said "Michael Collins"

    • @samdaniels2
      @samdaniels2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Great scene. Should have changed the word 'rich' to 'British'."
      Why?

    • @jack-zz9hb
      @jack-zz9hb ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samdaniels2 because historically, the Catholic Church always sided with the 'Establishment- i.e. the British, with 'honourable exception' of course.

    • @samdaniels2
      @samdaniels2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jack-zz9hb Why does that apply solely to British people?

  • @lukekiely2450
    @lukekiely2450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tells everyone to shut up but he’s allowed to say whatever he wants cause it’s “gods house”

    • @simongleaden2864
      @simongleaden2864 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct. He has a position of God-given authority.

    • @lukekiely2450
      @lukekiely2450 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simongleaden2864 what a prick

  • @MooneyMan98
    @MooneyMan98 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    extremely relevant

  • @seanbonella
    @seanbonella 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    like the church weren't doing anything wrong....the hypocrisy is pathetic

  • @lancastrian1917
    @lancastrian1917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And our fathers fathers fathers

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      Quiet down subhuman.

    • @lancastrian1917
      @lancastrian1917 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ easy bog trotter

  • @subsoil007
    @subsoil007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an Irish man.. I would of walked out.. Anti treaty all the way.. Cowards sold us out.. Michael Collins was never a hero

    • @Madriddick101
      @Madriddick101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You wouldn't be saying that lad if ya knew Churchills plan of war for Ireland was just to gas the whole island. It was peace or extinction.

    • @TheM41a
      @TheM41a ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And yet dev accepted the oath of allegiance when he was sworn in as taoiseach in 1933....anti treateyers conveniently forget this however.

    • @aw3046
      @aw3046 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Madriddick101 Do you have any proof of that?

    • @aw3046
      @aw3046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A treaty exactly as De Valera and Collins wanted was never going to be given by the UK. They could not have allowed Ireland to leave, as it would have made everyone else leave.
      The deal, while it didn't achieve all the aims, stopped the war for at least a short while.
      Let us hope that whether Ireland is united or not, it happens peacefully and without bloodshed.

    • @Madriddick101
      @Madriddick101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @aw3046 yes I was reading over some of these things through Hitlers memoirs and Churchill memoirs and his views on gas. The reason Hitler actually never used gas on the British in ww2 aside from his own trauma was he knew Churchill was Gung ho for gas warfare and that Germany didn't have as much stockpile if it compared. In Churchill own memoir he says and believes that gas warfare is the most humane of warfare.

  • @historynetwork7438
    @historynetwork7438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The priest was spitting straight facts

    • @dowdallerno1
      @dowdallerno1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No he was looking after his own interests. Fuck him and his treaty.

    • @historynetwork7438
      @historynetwork7438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dowdallerno1 or he doesn’t want some fucking idiots to fight more wars against the greatest army ever.

    • @dowdallerno1
      @dowdallerno1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@historynetwork7438 yea, and that worked out well.😉👍🙄👌

    • @historynetwork7438
      @historynetwork7438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dowdallerno1 it did, we have the country and an a somewhat decent relationship with the UK. You think we have the money and army to defeat them? No way.

    • @dowdallerno1
      @dowdallerno1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@historynetwork7438 we replaced one shitty regime with another one. The Irish state was a cesspit. Madgaline laundries, industrial schools, mass emigration cover up of bombings political censorship more people locked up in psychiatric institutions than the Soviet Union per capita. Cronyism and nepotism rampant ,Yea they did a great job. 😐

  • @fredlandry6170
    @fredlandry6170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good film.

  • @thecominglightofgood583
    @thecominglightofgood583 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the name of the actress who criticizes the election?

  • @mickcostigan8042
    @mickcostigan8042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rome backed the UK all the way Along with other Europeans they encouraged the complete elimination of Irish people. Fair play to the man who made this film

  • @johnm3022
    @johnm3022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A good scene. Reflects well some the issues at the time. The Treaty (narrowly passed) did not deliver the Republic but Dominion Status only and a requirement to swear allegiance to the King of England. The Hierarchy by and large sided with the fledgling Free State Government that were armed by the British. With few exceptions, the Hierarchy displayed a defeating silence when 79 Republicans were executed by the Free State Govt during the civil war from June 1922 to April 1923 - and they were only the 'Official' Executions. There were many other summary executions (extrajudicial killings) Our own Govt executed far more Irish men over 12 months than the English did over the 5 years between 1916 and 1921 (over period from Easter Rising to end of War of Independence). That's the tragedy of our history and the cause of bitterness that can still permeate through the generations.

  • @davidhull1481
    @davidhull1481 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That priest didn’t miss too many meals, eh? He’s twice the size of most of his audience.

    • @davidhull1481
      @davidhull1481 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wylderwatkins667 I dunno man, doesn’t look healthy.

  • @greglyons2526
    @greglyons2526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally over the top. Cannot imagine a simple country priest being so eloquent and political.Although some were involved. Ken loach is either a fanatical ideologue or totally naive,either way his movies are often full of caricatures.

  • @troutriver8659
    @troutriver8659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s ok winston Churchill said himself how can you defeat an army you can’t see. They are still rebuilding England after the glorious Irish army left 💣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @HHM706
      @HHM706 ปีที่แล้ว

      What?

    • @whitetroutchannel
      @whitetroutchannel ปีที่แล้ว

      is that the glorious irish army that murderd more irish roman catholics than any other group during the struggle? 😂

  • @socialsnmedia
    @socialsnmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now they Stay indoors because they're told to..shake the barley!

    • @WhiskersGoingMid
      @WhiskersGoingMid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Saneman this is a bad take, Saneman. People are getting sick left and right because of dumb opinions like this

    • @SB-lk4pn
      @SB-lk4pn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WhiskersGoingMid You don't even know what's been going on. You just follow those and their sources whose job is to tell you lies. And morons like you buy them over and over again thru centeries.

    • @ItsCronk
      @ItsCronk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      S B
      Tinfoil hat activated.

  • @johnpatrick6998
    @johnpatrick6998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peace and prosperity? LMAO. The free state sure was prosperous. 😂 And we all know what sins the church committed. Can thank big Dev for that.

  • @DrJackJeckyl
    @DrJackJeckyl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't forget the choir boys in all of this...

  • @user-lt5zf4xh7d
    @user-lt5zf4xh7d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Revolution

  • @NothingHumanisAlientoMe
    @NothingHumanisAlientoMe ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the priest wearing a Celtic top?

  • @bombski5657
    @bombski5657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the church gets into politics it's time to get out of the church.

  • @schurlbirkenbach1995
    @schurlbirkenbach1995 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many irish speak gaeilge ?

  • @SiLatics56
    @SiLatics56 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Has no one noticed the stumble at 2:32? 🤣🤣

    • @johnmurphy7316
      @johnmurphy7316 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did.Was it deliberately part of the film?

  • @benarcher4874
    @benarcher4874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cardinal low what a good chap he turned out to be

  • @matei-gabrielshelby3480
    @matei-gabrielshelby3480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He could've almost hammered home a point if he hadn't uttered those two words together. "English soldiers".
    And then he had the gall to go after the the Irish's faith. You don't touch four things that belong to an Irishman. His drink, his potatoes, his family and his faith.