Part of me likes to think this was part of the interview process or something. The fact that the fundamentals of card gaming are so ingrained in his thought process is a massive win to wherever he ends up. I know veteran MTG players who haven’t been able to understand why Hogaak is good and dude just nails it with the “oh, any card?!”
I mean self mill has been done for worse cards. Hell current standard is full of self mills for Valgavoth and shit. So a card that is just another boon to self mill decks is ridiculous.
This guy is insanely sharp at evaluating general card game fundamentals. Not only did he get questions correct but he offered some pretty nuanced analysis on top of that. Good showing!
i liked the way he related the cards back to YGO. I've never played YGO for a second but I already feel like I understand it better! Fun to see his takes, smart guy!
Yugioh: imagine the only format people play is Legacy (but everything gets reprinted out the wazoo, so it's cheap to buy in), everyone is playing some flavor of Storm, and there's 5 different free versions of Force Of Will. The only major rule in Yugioh is the first turn player cannot conduct their battle phase (combat). It can get silly, but I love it! Oh yeah, it's also a game where a board full of walking 5/5 counterspells is fine, but a sorcery that simply says "Draw 2 cards" is the most broken shit ever :)
What an absolute GIGABRAIN CHAD. No smooth noggin, maximum wrinklage. Reads the cards (already better than like 69% of MtG players) and even understands them. 10/10 would let evaluate cardboard again 💕💕
Hogaak was really easy to guess as a Yugioh player since there's an analogous card to it in Fairy Tail - Snow. Snow's used more as a stepping stone for your end board but they are practically the same
Carl has too much of a smile on his face, you can't see if he's happy or trying to fake out someone. Permasmile is probably one of the stronger pokerfaces around.
dude deduced the concept of curving out in 1:30; his grasp of mana, coming from a game where everything ends before the end of the second player's second turn, is really impressive!
Taylor has a great sense of different tactics in magic even without playing it or knowing the decks these cards came from. I loved his personality and how he thought things out which would make him a great player/opponent if he played the game so I’m definitely going to sub to his channel to see those aspects in play when they play yu-gi-oh
Hah. "High Five or Buzzer" is probably the perfect stakes for this. That noise really does amp up the pressure... and who doesn't love a well earned high-five! Well deserved! Interesting seeing game mechanics assessed from a knowledgeable outside perspective. You guys makes such unique original content.
@@timw9745 i can assure you a lot of vintage players would care :-) a mox is more OP than a sol ring, so banning sol ring wouldnt make sense anyway and would go against the philosophy of the format
Love to see people using logic to approach cards like this. Very friendly person as well, very positive vibes :) Please put it to the test and show him Nadu - if he can guess it right, its even more of a miracle how it slipped through playtesting :D Also i like to add, I think it is easier to rate magic cards comapred to yugioh cards. Just the wall of text on yugioh cards that also happen to be very specific and relate to a lot of mechanics you cant understand if you dont know at least a bit of yugioh. The concept of a 8/8 that has alternate costs and trample over small creatures is easier than a card that chains with something, that can be special summoned but only if its in your discard pile and only once per turn and and and....I used to look into yugioh when it came out and this is like a whole different game today, i dont understand sh*t these days xD
You're not at all wrong, but I think thats an important part of why he was so keen on evaluation, despite the perennial memes about nobody reading cards, playing YGO WELL requires an ability to parse what things Do despite the complexity, and why that is Good or Bad, and combined with a decent sense for TCGs in general and its not terribly difficult to sniff out easier examples like these ones I think its well shown in his reasonings as well
Love Staple or Stinker! Have you ever thought about doing an episode with Flesh and Blood cards? I feel like the fact that it has such a different gameplay system would make evaluation of the cards really interesting!
@@crapparcofficially that is the point of Flesh and Blood, to only be played in flesh and blood (real life paper). But you can find online fan services, same as magic. It's a really fun game, give it a shot!
Dragonmaster Outcast was played in UR control decks Battle For Zendikar in sideboard for control mirrors, because in such mirrors you often remove cheap removal spells and 1 drop could stick on board for 5 turns covered with lot of counterspells.
The idea is more of what has stuck around long term, being good for a grand total of one set as a sideboard is not enough to be considered a Staple. Arcbound Ravager warped the entire format around itself, for example.
Whoo! Glad to have this back. I'd love to see you hit someone with Lantern of Insight on one of these. Just to see a YGO player react to Lantern Control being a deck.
rocking a similar style vest like Paris from gilmore girls in episode 3 of season 6! (styles actually return from 10-20 years ago) - yes I spent time with my wife watching gilmore girls
Taylor is a well-spoken, intelligent guy with an eye for Magic on top of having an eye for Yu-Gi-Oh (I assume). You guys gained a hell of an asset with him.
Man is he good! The way he can justify his decisions shows some true skill and understanding from card games. This is what I want to develop for my work one day!
In Magic, our version of a once per turn effect is anything that requires the thing to tap as part of its activation cost. For instance, all basic lands are considered to have the ability "Tap: Add (one mana of its color)." We don't quite have only-once effects like Yu-Gi-Oh does, though
my best turn 1 of any game was when I played a land, tapped it to cast sol ring then tapped that to cast arcane signet and finally tapped that to play my (1 mana) commander. turn 1 commander with 5 mana open on turn 2
I also play YGO (only played three games of Magic like ~6 years ago) and this was my logic (I also got 5/5): 1) You can only use this your sixth turn, that's 12 turns of Magic and most likely the game is decided by then. I didn't even realize that you don't get the effect until your next turn, which instantly makes it bad. 2) This was the hardest one, by far, mostly because YGO doesn't really have artifacts (I guess the closest would be continuous spells?). This card's viability depends on how good artifacts are (specifically, sending them to the GY, which I am assuming is what happens when they're sacrificed). I was actually thinking of Endymion, which competitive play back in the day. 3) This one was easy, although I had to figure out how its second effect worked. Once I figured that part out, the first thing I thought of was Fairy Tail - Snow, which is banned right now lmao. 4) This was easy, it's basically a burn card. While I couldn't decide on if it was bad or not, but the fact that it's a burn card means it wouldn't be a staple. Typically, burn cards are part of a dedicated burn strategy or deck, which I think applies regardless of the card game. In YGO, sometimes burn cards are played as staples, because of the time rules we have, but they're not super common (it also depends on the format). 5) This one was free lmao, also isn't this card like famous or something? I feel like I've heard of it before.
Used to play yugioh when I was younger, might even watch some videos now and again I enjoyed his analysis. Now you have to do the same with YuGiOh cards!!!
Yeah I mean in yugioh the resource concept we have is card advantage, so say a card said "discard 1 card; draw 2 additional cards, and every turn from here on out" in yugioh that would be roughly equivalent to sol ring. Lack of a mana system isn't so much of a strange thing to yugioh players. I think it also speaks to how complex Yugioh is, that it expands our ability to comprehend other tcg's mechanics.
Fun fact for you about the Outcast: It ACTUALLY did see competitive play, it even appeared in a SCG open tournament in Indianapolis 9 years ago. And the deck did actually make it to the top 8. It was kind of a trap card though, since its ability was VERY doable, it was also just fragile too. Also, it's not like the ability wouldn't be out before turn 6, just that's the usual curve.
I realized that Sol Ring was good when one of my friends played a turn 1 Sol Ring and turn 2 Juggernault. It had to attack every turn, so he killed one player before he could play anything. I traded myself 4 Sol Rings and 4 Juggernaults. Turn 1: 3x Sol Ring + Juggernaut was fun while it lasted. Juggernaut got banned and Sol Ring restricted. Sol Ring was a staple must have in every deck, so I had no problem trading away the extras and Juggernault was unbanned in 1997. It was still very good, but not broken. Today Sol Ring is even more busted, while Juggernaut is sub-par. Creature power creep has been massive. While spells just got worse (Sol Ring, Time Walk, Ancestral Recall, Balance, Lightning Bolt, Swords to Plowshares were all in alpha/beta).
Great analysis and conclusions, you have to bring him back for a 'rematch', maybe ramp up the difficulty with more unique card types like Planeswalkers or Sagas or something that's a great card but not a staple because there's a slightly better version of it (e.g. one of the many downgrades of lightning bolt). Would love to see more of this guy!
Dragonmaster Outcast: 402 top8 standard decks, I would not call that a stinker. 1st, 2nd & 3rd: Grand Prix Quebec City 2015 1st: Grand Prix Portland 2016; Grand Prix Paris 2016 2nd: Grand Prix Amsterdam 2017; Grand Prix Tokyo 2016 3rd: Grand Prix Montreal 2017; Grand Prix Toronto 2016; Pro Tour Milwaukee (BFZ)
Seeing how much Taylor loves the buzzer.. he needs to invite Carl for a Staple or Stinker on Yugioh cards! Also, damn he did great, getting every single one right! I mean he got the logic of them all 100% right!
Wow now that's a guy who's just straight up intelligent, was able to put himself in the shoes of a magic player and logic out the advantages and disadvantages of every cards even without the full context
Sol Ring actually can be played in a 1v1 format, that being Vintage, however it's restricted because it's equal to or better than a mox in a lot of decks.
Shows this fella has a strong understanding of the potential concerns that introducing the resource management of mana could have. He's a Magic player disguised as a Yugioh player. Fun vid
Now we need a series thats just devoted to stumping this guy. He's obviously too good for "Staple or Stinker",so lets get ready for "Let's Stump Taylor!"
It seriously is. In pokemon for example in your first turn of the game if all goes well you should draw like 5 or 10 cards. In Magic, it is very rare to do that in a whole game.
There are two limits in magic: the mana you have, and the cards you have. It's much easier to get more mana than more cards, so anything that gives you more cards is pretty good.
Drawing cards is part of card advantage but yes, card advantage is powerful in pretty much any tcg. That's why one of the most broken Yugioh cards ever just says "draw 2 cards" That said, because of magic's mana system, the benefit has to be worth the cost. If you're only spending a little mana for something early that is constantly drawing you cards or creating tokens, that's strong. Paying 6 or 7 mana to draw some cards or make some tokens is pretty bad though, because there are cards for 6 or 7 mana that win you the game almost immediately
I finally got a 5/5! The hardest one was that it took me a long time to realize that the big guy could tap/exile stuff for colored mana and wasn't just completely unplayable
I miss what Magic was before Commander was invented. I'm so damned tired of hearing how great Commander is when every single experience I've had with it has been nothing but a frustrating encouragement to drop the entire hobby.
Commander aint Just 4 player format. Its primarily 1v1, but it can go up to 6(3v3) as far as im aware. The four player format has two versions, 1v1v1v1, and 2v2, otherwise known as two-headed . Some call it ogre, some call it dragon, i think its supposed to be ogre but i hear enough mix-ups that i dont actually know for certain.
I didn't get all of them right like he did, but I'm proud of myself for successfully recognizing that Higaak is Fairy Tale Snow and realizing that it's therefore overpowered.
If he's in awe of 4 mana turn 2, I'd love to see his reaction to some higher power plays. I've seen someone Swamp > Dark Ritual > Sol Ring > Arcane Signet > Commander, all on _turn 1,_ and that was *casual!*
2:31: "Magic is slow, you don't win in 1 or 2 turns like in Yugioh". *Me being destroyed by a mono red aggro after turn 2 in Standard twice in a row*: "I beg to disagree".
The other thing about arcbound ravager was that it had a sort of “lightning rod” effect where you basically had to target it first with removal, or your opponent would get extra value out of every single other thing you tried to remove. Then you add in skullclamp and it’s just ridiculous Tbh I feel like some of these were pretty softball cards, I think showing something like mana crypt would’ve been more interesting than sol ring, or more complex crazy powerful cards like oko or uro. Brainstorm’s always a cool one because it’s not particularly common (but does happen!) that people instantly grasp the impact shuffling has with it. Tarmogoyf is a nice one on the simpler end of card text. Sphinx’s rev. For stinkers, skaab ruinator is always a classic. Savage knuckleblade, fiend artisan
You need to tell the mtg player that every single ygo deck is literally just combo that tries to win on your 1st turn if going second or 2nd turn if going first. It’s solitaire with free negates. Then they might be able to parse the value of yugioh cards.
Just an idea, you guys should try playing Yu-Gi-Oh with Magic cards, one normal summon per turn, having to sacrifice monsters for higher mana value summons, having to set "traps" like counterspell or such face down on the field, and other such mechanics.
I thought dragonmaster outcast saw a decent amount of play in the "wet jund" or whatever that 4c pile was called in standard? Maybe it was a flash in the pan.
I would have thought that Duskmantle Seer would have a place in topdeck manipulation decks. But I guess the problem is that you cannot play instances between the "every player reveal their top card" and "then put it into his or her hand" effects. If you could force players to show their top card first, then hit them with a deck shuffle instant effect before they draw, that would be useful. Or if you could turn the effect off and on as needed, combined with lantern of insight.
please please please carry on with the launch of these channels, I would love to see one for flesh and blood and I really think the community would rally behind a channel with a higher production value, and it could attract new players to our game. I absolutely love this channel despite not actively playing magic and I feel a flesh and blood channel could do the same for my favourite game ever created.
He struggled a little bit with Dragonmaster Outcast not understanding when you were allowed to play it and how many dragons it would make. Understandably so since Magic is so card advantage based. Other than that it was very impressive. Sol Ring analysis was extremely good. He will love Mana Crypt haha
Read a brief history of Hogaak Summer (with decklists!) at: bit.ly/4b0ZYQG
Factual mistake. Sol Ring is restricted but not banned in vintage, which is a 1v1 format.
Great instincts, ask for his input every spoiler season. He’s like the opposite of that dog who predicts every sport championship.
This guy is GOOOD! His analysis and explanations for someone who doesn't play magic are REALLY GOOD!
That just tells you he's good at cardgames
Yep, very good analysis.
@@Oimfielking of card games
Except the first card.
For a guy who doesn't play magic, he did it amazingly good. The analysis was spot on.
Part of me likes to think this was part of the interview process or something. The fact that the fundamentals of card gaming are so ingrained in his thought process is a massive win to wherever he ends up. I know veteran MTG players who haven’t been able to understand why Hogaak is good and dude just nails it with the “oh, any card?!”
I mean self mill has been done for worse cards. Hell current standard is full of self mills for Valgavoth and shit. So a card that is just another boon to self mill decks is ridiculous.
@@Vashy434 current standard is full of red aggro lmao. mill is way too slow thanks to the new leyline
He was sold for me when he instantly picked up that you could use Arcbound Ravager multiple times a turn.
This guy is insanely sharp at evaluating general card game fundamentals. Not only did he get questions correct but he offered some pretty nuanced analysis on top of that. Good showing!
More impressive than the 5/5 was the thought process itself on each card. Taylor would be very good at Magic.
Generally speaking, I think it's far easier for a YGO player to transition to MTG than vise versa.
@@l.schaefer9274mtg is easy AF comparatively. I learned commander after like 2 games. Mtg is also so much more fun
He’s just extremely high iq
Funny to point at Hogaak's mana cost when talking about stuff Sol Ring can pay for...
As always, fantastic stuff
Yeah that was a bit of a slip 😅 my bad
@@CardmarketMagicunforgivable
He is so impressive. He reads magic cards better than 90% of Magic players
i liked the way he related the cards back to YGO. I've never played YGO for a second but I already feel like I understand it better! Fun to see his takes, smart guy!
Yugioh: imagine the only format people play is Legacy (but everything gets reprinted out the wazoo, so it's cheap to buy in), everyone is playing some flavor of Storm, and there's 5 different free versions of Force Of Will. The only major rule in Yugioh is the first turn player cannot conduct their battle phase (combat). It can get silly, but I love it!
Oh yeah, it's also a game where a board full of walking 5/5 counterspells is fine, but a sorcery that simply says "Draw 2 cards" is the most broken shit ever :)
@@Kylora2112a board full of walking 5/5 counter spells is so accurate 😭😭😭
Recruit this guy for the magic channel! He is ready!
100% I'd love to see a series of him having to blind-play pauper or something.
What an absolute GIGABRAIN CHAD. No smooth noggin, maximum wrinklage. Reads the cards (already better than like 69% of MtG players) and even understands them. 10/10 would let evaluate cardboard again 💕💕
Hogaak was really easy to guess as a Yugioh player since there's an analogous card to it in Fairy Tail - Snow. Snow's used more as a stepping stone for your end board but they are practically the same
Carl's trying to sustain a poker face in 12:50, was just amazing 😂
Carl has too much of a smile on his face, you can't see if he's happy or trying to fake out someone. Permasmile is probably one of the stronger pokerfaces around.
dude deduced the concept of curving out in 1:30; his grasp of mana, coming from a game where everything ends before the end of the second player's second turn, is really impressive!
Taylor has a great sense of different tactics in magic even without playing it or knowing the decks these cards came from. I loved his personality and how he thought things out which would make him a great player/opponent if he played the game so I’m definitely going to sub to his channel to see those aspects in play when they play yu-gi-oh
I was waiting for this. The short teased me.
Hah. "High Five or Buzzer" is probably the perfect stakes for this. That noise really does amp up the pressure... and who doesn't love a well earned high-five!
Well deserved!
Interesting seeing game mechanics assessed from a knowledgeable outside perspective.
You guys makes such unique original content.
Sol Ring is legal in Vintage where it's Restricted. Only 1v1 format that it is legal in.
This Vintage erasure will not stand
@@seangalexander We will call forth the council!
Yeah I was like hij it became banned in vintage? Not that anyone would care but still
@@timw9745 i can assure you a lot of vintage players would care :-) a mox is more OP than a sol ring, so banning sol ring wouldnt make sense anyway and would go against the philosophy of the format
Doesn't vintage never ban, just restrict?
Love to see people using logic to approach cards like this. Very friendly person as well, very positive vibes :)
Please put it to the test and show him Nadu - if he can guess it right, its even more of a miracle how it slipped through playtesting :D
Also i like to add, I think it is easier to rate magic cards comapred to yugioh cards. Just the wall of text on yugioh cards that also happen to be very specific and relate to a lot of mechanics you cant understand if you dont know at least a bit of yugioh. The concept of a 8/8 that has alternate costs and trample over small creatures is easier than a card that chains with something, that can be special summoned but only if its in your discard pile and only once per turn and and and....I used to look into yugioh when it came out and this is like a whole different game today, i dont understand sh*t these days xD
You're not at all wrong, but I think thats an important part of why he was so keen on evaluation, despite the perennial memes about nobody reading cards, playing YGO WELL requires an ability to parse what things Do despite the complexity, and why that is Good or Bad, and combined with a decent sense for TCGs in general and its not terribly difficult to sniff out easier examples like these ones
I think its well shown in his reasonings as well
Super impressed! Well done. Hell of a way to introduce a new host. I already have immediate respect for his knowledge and analysis skills.
Carl: "tell us what you think about Hogaak, Arisne Necropolis"
Me: *forcefully exhales air from my nose*
wow; and the fact there was no real guesswork, but actually correct thought process really makes it awesome.
When I saw Sol Ring at the end I knew he was going to get it right. 2 easy
thats true, it felt a bit too ez after seeing his previous analysises, but it might have felt different if he got some wrong before ^^
Love Staple or Stinker! Have you ever thought about doing an episode with Flesh and Blood cards? I feel like the fact that it has such a different gameplay system would make evaluation of the cards really interesting!
Is Flesh and Blood only in paper?
@@crapparcofficially that is the point of Flesh and Blood, to only be played in flesh and blood (real life paper). But you can find online fan services, same as magic. It's a really fun game, give it a shot!
Dragonmaster Outcast was played in UR control decks Battle For Zendikar in sideboard for control mirrors, because in such mirrors you often remove cheap removal spells and 1 drop could stick on board for 5 turns covered with lot of counterspells.
The idea is more of what has stuck around long term, being good for a grand total of one set as a sideboard is not enough to be considered a Staple. Arcbound Ravager warped the entire format around itself, for example.
@matthewgagnon9426 it was around for whole standard of UR control existance and have compite for slot with Sphinx of the Final Word
The heart of the cards guided him to correct answer. Like a true Duelist. Takahashi Sensei would be proud
great performance from taylor! I play both games albeit casually but he definitely has the analytical mind 👏
Hey, a new face at Cardmarket! I'm sure Taylor will fit in well with the Yu Gi Oh crowd, and who knows, maybe we'll be seing him again on here, too
One of the smartest guys I've ever seen, I predicted he would nail 5/5! Congrats
Saw some of the shorts, been waiting for this one!
Very impressed with Taylor! Looking forward to the future of the Yugioh channel with him at the helm
Whoo! Glad to have this back.
I'd love to see you hit someone with Lantern of Insight on one of these. Just to see a YGO player react to Lantern Control being a deck.
Gosh I've been waiting for this one. The shorts were so good!
rocking a similar style vest like Paris from gilmore girls in episode 3 of season 6! (styles actually return from 10-20 years ago) - yes I spent time with my wife watching gilmore girls
Flawless run. Perfect logic.
Definitely has the card game brain! Great addition to the squad guys!
Taylor is a well-spoken, intelligent guy with an eye for Magic on top of having an eye for Yu-Gi-Oh (I assume). You guys gained a hell of an asset with him.
Man is he good! The way he can justify his decisions shows some true skill and understanding from card games. This is what I want to develop for my work one day!
It was really fun to watch Taylor reason through all those cards! Bring him back for more :D
Yes! Was waiting for the whole video because the shorts were impressive 🎉🎉 Being able to generalize card game knowledge is harder than I thought 😮
In Magic, our version of a once per turn effect is anything that requires the thing to tap as part of its activation cost. For instance, all basic lands are considered to have the ability "Tap: Add (one mana of its color)." We don't quite have only-once effects like Yu-Gi-Oh does, though
my best turn 1 of any game was when I played a land, tapped it to cast sol ring then tapped that to cast arcane signet and finally tapped that to play my (1 mana) commander. turn 1 commander with 5 mana open on turn 2
Great video! I missed this series, so I'm glad it came back!
Great showing by Taylor too!
I also play YGO (only played three games of Magic like ~6 years ago) and this was my logic (I also got 5/5):
1) You can only use this your sixth turn, that's 12 turns of Magic and most likely the game is decided by then. I didn't even realize that you don't get the effect until your next turn, which instantly makes it bad.
2) This was the hardest one, by far, mostly because YGO doesn't really have artifacts (I guess the closest would be continuous spells?). This card's viability depends on how good artifacts are (specifically, sending them to the GY, which I am assuming is what happens when they're sacrificed). I was actually thinking of Endymion, which competitive play back in the day.
3) This one was easy, although I had to figure out how its second effect worked. Once I figured that part out, the first thing I thought of was Fairy Tail - Snow, which is banned right now lmao.
4) This was easy, it's basically a burn card. While I couldn't decide on if it was bad or not, but the fact that it's a burn card means it wouldn't be a staple. Typically, burn cards are part of a dedicated burn strategy or deck, which I think applies regardless of the card game. In YGO, sometimes burn cards are played as staples, because of the time rules we have, but they're not super common (it also depends on the format).
5) This one was free lmao, also isn't this card like famous or something? I feel like I've heard of it before.
Used to play yugioh when I was younger, might even watch some videos now and again I enjoyed his analysis. Now you have to do the same with YuGiOh cards!!!
I really missed Staple or Stinker. Taylors analysis were spot on!
Yeah I mean in yugioh the resource concept we have is card advantage, so say a card said "discard 1 card; draw 2 additional cards, and every turn from here on out" in yugioh that would be roughly equivalent to sol ring. Lack of a mana system isn't so much of a strange thing to yugioh players.
I think it also speaks to how complex Yugioh is, that it expands our ability to comprehend other tcg's mechanics.
Pretty sure he analysed the cards better than I do lol, very impressive
Fun fact for you about the Outcast: It ACTUALLY did see competitive play, it even appeared in a SCG open tournament in Indianapolis 9 years ago.
And the deck did actually make it to the top 8. It was kind of a trap card though, since its ability was VERY doable, it was also just fragile too. Also, it's not like the ability wouldn't be out before turn 6, just that's the usual curve.
“You don’t win in one or two turns” you haven’t played against certain red players I know
As a newer player, this is always to play along with, get to see /sometimes/ cool cards, and test what ive learned of the game
Give this man a magic deck in a future video, please. I want to see that. He has such intuition
Excited to see staple or stinker again! Well done Taylor!
I realized that Sol Ring was good when one of my friends played a turn 1 Sol Ring and turn 2 Juggernault. It had to attack every turn, so he killed one player before he could play anything. I traded myself 4 Sol Rings and 4 Juggernaults. Turn 1: 3x Sol Ring + Juggernaut was fun while it lasted. Juggernaut got banned and Sol Ring restricted. Sol Ring was a staple must have in every deck, so I had no problem trading away the extras and Juggernault was unbanned in 1997. It was still very good, but not broken. Today Sol Ring is even more busted, while Juggernaut is sub-par. Creature power creep has been massive. While spells just got worse (Sol Ring, Time Walk, Ancestral Recall, Balance, Lightning Bolt, Swords to Plowshares were all in alpha/beta).
Great analysis and conclusions, you have to bring him back for a 'rematch', maybe ramp up the difficulty with more unique card types like Planeswalkers or Sagas or something that's a great card but not a staple because there's a slightly better version of it (e.g. one of the many downgrades of lightning bolt). Would love to see more of this guy!
Dragonmaster Outcast: 402 top8 standard decks, I would not call that a stinker.
1st, 2nd & 3rd: Grand Prix Quebec City 2015
1st: Grand Prix Portland 2016; Grand Prix Paris 2016
2nd: Grand Prix Amsterdam 2017; Grand Prix Tokyo 2016
3rd: Grand Prix Montreal 2017; Grand Prix Toronto 2016; Pro Tour Milwaukee (BFZ)
Seeing how much Taylor loves the buzzer.. he needs to invite Carl for a Staple or Stinker on Yugioh cards!
Also, damn he did great, getting every single one right! I mean he got the logic of them all 100% right!
Wow now that's a guy who's just straight up intelligent, was able to put himself in the shoes of a magic player and logic out the advantages and disadvantages of every cards even without the full context
Taylor, not only being big brain, also has that Bob Ross vibe that would make him stand out as the Yu-Gi-Oh! host
Sol Ring actually can be played in a 1v1 format, that being Vintage, however it's restricted because it's equal to or better than a mox in a lot of decks.
I skipped vintage there because it would have just confused most viewers and is not really relevant to the explanation :)
@@CardmarketMagic That makes sense.
Shows this fella has a strong understanding of the potential concerns that introducing the resource management of mana could have. He's a Magic player disguised as a Yugioh player. Fun vid
Loving the line "magic is slow" as someone who started mtg from lor which was even slower 😭 i was out there paying 9 mana for a boardwipe
No traps there, but for someone who doesn't know anything about magic his analysis was really concise and spot on! Amazing
Everyone is talking about how good this guy is at evaluating cards but I wanted to say that I really like his personality and enthusiasm :)
I love these crossover Staple or Stinker episodes, they're so fun. Taylor seems great, please do another episode with him!
Little did we know this was the final part of his interview to be on the yugioh channel. Good job!🎉
Now we need a series thats just devoted to stumping this guy. He's obviously too good for "Staple or Stinker",so lets get ready for "Let's Stump Taylor!"
"remember magic is slow you don't win one or two turns"
after pro tour
Nadu: Nah, I'd win.
Dragon master outcast was the first card I thought of when Obeka splitter of seconds was spoiled
Thumps up for Taylor, not only good analysis but also a man of the people.
More with this guy please. Very pleasant!
im pretty new to magic, but it feels like card advantage and drawing cards is the most OP thing in the game
It seriously is. In pokemon for example in your first turn of the game if all goes well you should draw like 5 or 10 cards. In Magic, it is very rare to do that in a whole game.
It is, just because it gives you much more options
There are two limits in magic: the mana you have, and the cards you have. It's much easier to get more mana than more cards, so anything that gives you more cards is pretty good.
Yep. Cards can get you more mana, it’s harder for mana to get you more cards. Both cap each other, but card advantage comes first.
Drawing cards is part of card advantage but yes, card advantage is powerful in pretty much any tcg. That's why one of the most broken Yugioh cards ever just says "draw 2 cards"
That said, because of magic's mana system, the benefit has to be worth the cost. If you're only spending a little mana for something early that is constantly drawing you cards or creating tokens, that's strong. Paying 6 or 7 mana to draw some cards or make some tokens is pretty bad though, because there are cards for 6 or 7 mana that win you the game almost immediately
I miss when piercing was just called fairy meteor crush
I finally got a 5/5! The hardest one was that it took me a long time to realize that the big guy could tap/exile stuff for colored mana and wasn't just completely unplayable
Man.. Bro would've probably even correctly analyzed Oko in Spoilers. Great job!
I miss what Magic was before Commander was invented. I'm so damned tired of hearing how great Commander is when every single experience I've had with it has been nothing but a frustrating encouragement to drop the entire hobby.
It’s for noobs and women. For some reason lots of troons play it too
Dragon master outcast was gasoline in standard sideboards?
Was missing this. Nice to see it back
I'm relatively new to magic so I know none of these either, rlly interesting for me
Commander aint Just 4 player format. Its primarily 1v1, but it can go up to 6(3v3) as far as im aware. The four player format has two versions, 1v1v1v1, and 2v2, otherwise known as two-headed . Some call it ogre, some call it dragon, i think its supposed to be ogre but i hear enough mix-ups that i dont actually know for certain.
I didn't get all of them right like he did, but I'm proud of myself for successfully recognizing that Higaak is Fairy Tale Snow and realizing that it's therefore overpowered.
Seems like this fella understands his card game fundamentals real well! I'd love to see you have him do some "YGO player tries magic" videos.
If he's in awe of 4 mana turn 2, I'd love to see his reaction to some higher power plays. I've seen someone Swamp > Dark Ritual > Sol Ring > Arcane Signet > Commander, all on _turn 1,_ and that was *casual!*
2:31: "Magic is slow, you don't win in 1 or 2 turns like in Yugioh".
*Me being destroyed by a mono red aggro after turn 2 in Standard twice in a row*: "I beg to disagree".
That didn’t happen though.
@GhGh-gq8oo I beg to disagree.
The other thing about arcbound ravager was that it had a sort of “lightning rod” effect where you basically had to target it first with removal, or your opponent would get extra value out of every single other thing you tried to remove. Then you add in skullclamp and it’s just ridiculous
Tbh I feel like some of these were pretty softball cards, I think showing something like mana crypt would’ve been more interesting than sol ring, or more complex crazy powerful cards like oko or uro. Brainstorm’s always a cool one because it’s not particularly common (but does happen!) that people instantly grasp the impact shuffling has with it. Tarmogoyf is a nice one on the simpler end of card text. Sphinx’s rev. For stinkers, skaab ruinator is always a classic. Savage knuckleblade, fiend artisan
missed the opportunity to say "you still take the damage" when explaining piercing
Karl (Carl? I forget the spelling lol) tried to bait him so hard on Duskmantle Seer, because he was shutting him out, but he didn't bite! I love it
Amazing Crossover! Taylor seems super chill and knowledgeable. 5/5, lets goooooo
For some of them it was easy to guess (like sol ring) but the analysis was spot on. impressive for someone who doesn't play magic.
I’ve noticed that it’s easier for yugioh players to know if other cards are good than vice versa
You need to tell the mtg player that every single ygo deck is literally just combo that tries to win on your 1st turn if going second or 2nd turn if going first. It’s solitaire with free negates. Then they might be able to parse the value of yugioh cards.
Taylor was perfect with all the analyses, from Outcast to Sol Ring. Would love to see Taylor return to be tested with even harder cards to analyze
He is leaps ahead of most Yu-Gi-Oh players in that he has actual reading comprehension!
Just an idea, you guys should try playing Yu-Gi-Oh with Magic cards, one normal summon per turn, having to sacrifice monsters for higher mana value summons, having to set "traps" like counterspell or such face down on the field, and other such mechanics.
This was the best Staple vs Stinker episode I've watched 😂 This dude understands Magic without even playing it.
I thought dragonmaster outcast saw a decent amount of play in the "wet jund" or whatever that 4c pile was called in standard? Maybe it was a flash in the pan.
From what I recall, it was tried out but found to lack enough impact to keep in.
I would have thought that Duskmantle Seer would have a place in topdeck manipulation decks.
But I guess the problem is that you cannot play instances between the "every player reveal their top card" and "then put it into his or her hand" effects.
If you could force players to show their top card first, then hit them with a deck shuffle instant effect before they draw, that would be useful.
Or if you could turn the effect off and on as needed, combined with lantern of insight.
Id love to see a video or series on this guy learning to play magic.
please please please carry on with the launch of these channels, I would love to see one for flesh and blood and I really think the community would rally behind a channel with a higher production value, and it could attract new players to our game. I absolutely love this channel despite not actively playing magic and I feel a flesh and blood channel could do the same for my favourite game ever created.
He struggled a little bit with Dragonmaster Outcast not understanding when you were allowed to play it and how many dragons it would make. Understandably so since Magic is so card advantage based. Other than that it was very impressive. Sol Ring analysis was extremely good. He will love Mana Crypt haha
Dragonmaster Outcast was played in the sideboard of competitive control decks