Thamill not every protagonist is 10, only the first 3 regions are. Dawn, Lucas, Nate and Rosa are 14-16 Hilbert, Hilda, Serena and Calem are 16-18 Elio and Selene are 12-14 (Remakes are about 2 years older)
As Gladion said: "You know why being a Trainer is so great? Because when you're battling, it doesn't matter if you're a kid or an adult. Everyone's equal in Pokémon battle!"
Clearly not, considering the games are abysmally easy and nothing is a proper threat. Without forced lose battles the moment a battle starts the tension goes away cause u know ur gonna win. Imagine the evil tean leader challenging u once since he recognizes you as a threat, and absolutly deleting your team with like a level 90 when you’re in early 30s. And then an actual climactic final battle against him at the end. Instead we get a villian who’s actually crazy or doesnt know what they’re doing that you beat like 4 times. Zero tension
@@Endermeen "Without forced lose battles the moment a battle starts the tension goes away cause u know ur gonna win. " But where's the tension if you know yo're going to lose and it will nothing? Forced battles are just time wasters for the player and nothing more...
Thamill not every protagonist is 10, only the first 3 regions are. Dawn, Lucas, Nate and Rosa are 14-16 Hilbert, Hilda, Serena and Calem are 16-18 Elio and Selene are 12-14
It think it’s more because of the fact that you’re being pushed into this battle of worlds and gods and stuff. Like your father is a regular person who has trained his whole life to gain his strength, chose to follow the path he chose, which pushed you into all this craziness at a very young age.
I don't know if we need to go that far to force an unwinnable battle. Back in the day this wasn't a problem because the games offered enough challenge where you could possibly lose a battle if your team wasn't ready. But nowadays gameplay has become so easy and for kids that losing a battle is impossible.
Shane Alexandria Kenny I agree! Its way too much. If it can house a bird family in it then its way too much. I would like to chop it off(Or at least thats how i feel about men growing out their beards.).
Thousand Year old legendary Pokemon worshiped as a literal God: "Oho Trainer, you dare approach me?" Ten Year old child with a simple bug Pokemon that knows spore: "I can't beat the crap out of you without getting closer."
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@Tanim Chowdhury Arceus isn't a creator of the world. It's a stupid goat evolved from Mew, that can't even punch stuff. Even if was supposed to have 1000 hands. It's nothing more than some idol and fairy tale. Just because it is written on some rocks in Sinnoh, it doesn't mean it's true.
@@TheSwooj I mean Lucas and Dawn also don't look ten, but they are. But pretty much - it's still kids fantasy. It's like saying that Narnia stories, Harry Potter or Percy Jackson are stupid. Same reasoning, so OP isn't much reasonable either way.
Ughhhhh aktuallyyyyyyyy they're *11* and that makes a huge difference. And let's not talk about how Bonnie can't be a trainer because she's 10, but literal *PRESCHOOLERS* can be trainers.
“A TEN YEAR OLD SWIMS ON WATER DEMON AND LAVA DEMON MEANWHILE CAPTURE THE GODS OF TIME AND SPACE AND RIDE ON ANCIENT LIZARD DRAGON...AND ALSO PLAY A FLUTE TO PUT A GOD IN A POKEBALL” - RANT FROM 1:40-2:40 is the best rant you’ve had
That train for 3 years is cool but weird, who would want to climb a mountain for 3 years and maybe die with a random dude you don't even know the name of
I honestly think about every topic in this video all the time, this is why when I start a new game, I always picture myself as an older character in my head, and in battles when I'm so strong that im blowing people over in a few turns , it's like the episode where that one dude blew Ash away with that latios and darkrai. I feel like when you're this strong to be doing all the stuff our MC's end up doing, to see it as a kid is comical. There needs to be battles that we LOSE. Characters that put stakes on the line. We need tension to make the story more intense. Thats what I liked about black and white. When you got to the end, and defeated N only for Ghetsis to roll up? Tell me that wasn't INSANE. That game easily put difficulty on the line. Not every battle felt like I was some otherworldly being terminating everything in my path. I actually felt like there was something on the line with the battles in those games, regardless of some of the flaws they held.
It's like everyone in the games is just used to it by now. You used to get Rocket Grunts that were like "I lost to a kid?", and now we get Champions that are just like "congratulations, you won". These prodigy kids are everywhere. Think about it, your player character isn't the only one. Look at all the trainers in the Battle Tower, Frontier, Maison, Tree. Like oh great, here we go again, another one of those kids. Time to prepare the Hall of Fame.
You just literally, unironically, pulled a better plot and rough draft of a story out of your ass, that blows almost all of Game Freak's stories out of the water.
I'm glad you acknowledged that BW1 makes a modicum of sense with why the main characters are so strong by the end. The game makes it at least seem feasible with how the story flows and with the thematic showdowns taking place at the Pokemon League. Other main character's strength just seems to be BS though. The only one I'd give a pass to is Red.
Victor and Gloria being given a rabbit 3 days ago and is sponsered by a champion fucking defeats a dragon that can annihalate the region and defeats the undefeated champion in a week
Well those aren't facts, those are just his opinions. Everyone has different opinions of things. I personally never felt it was this deep. I just looked at it like I train my pokemon properly and everyone else just doesn't. I WOULD however like to make my character more appropriate to me and my actual age since I'm in my 20s
He meant is as we arent shocked because going in we know we can beat everyone pretty ez. The starters are broken, always and other trainers dont scale. Personally a cool idea would be thay other trainers have mutiple versions i.e. that early level bug trainer will get a new team after every badge or some preset moment that reflects the level changes. Maybe even time skip event where you come back older. Make grinding in certain area sort of like being inside the hyperbolic time chamber but everyone ages with you. Maybe side quest for your birthday/moms bday. Also in my head-canon lvls do not mean a pokemon is stronger i.e. a lvl 1 and lvl 100 pokemon are nearly identical. Except level is just how used to combat a pokemon is so it makes sense levels are required to evolve mons as evolutions is traditionally done to survive etc.
And so, your rival appears again with revenge in his eyes. He was so desperate to win that he embraced the "evil" powers. Corrupted his own Pokemon and equipped illegal items to make sure of his victory.
You have being red in gen 1, having suicune or one of them take a liking to you in gen 2, having a gym leader as a dad in gen 3, mesprit noticing you in gen 4, uhhhh.... N seeing something in you in gen 5? And I think alder liking you in the sequels but that doesn’t really mean shit, I have no fucking clue how you’re the “chosen” in gen 6 but then there’s tapu oneofthem saving you and giving you the Z rock shit in gen 7
I agree with the kirito one cause he wins almost all fights in anime without training but Naruto trains everytime before every arc (I like both series) idk bout one piece havent gotten very far into that (only ep 17)
I think luffy has won most full on fights , except the times there were exceptions with the navy, and a few other other arcs, same with naruto, in all of his arcs with certain villains
To be fair Kirito had a very weak explanation for why he was so good. Playing the beta before anyone else and maybe be a super gamer that has played many games and defined the meta but I don't give a shit. Not trying to defend it but he's at least Black and White level of character motivation. All the other ones don't show any clue if they are going to be good, I think Ash's father was rumored to be a very good trainer but that's the anime and doesn't relate to Ash at all besides genetics.
I believe the reason why you are some random nobody in pokemon games is to show that you dont have to be anyone special or have special advantages in life to be able to do great things as long as you believe in doing the right thing and keeping true to yourself and what's inside your heart is all you need to be able to do amazing things
The story TTar suggested does all those things. It says that you’re only considered “special” because you believe in yourself and your Pokémon and in doing the right thing.
I hear ya ttar, esp felt that when I breezed platinum in over a week during my Christmas hols, felt like it was all continuous. At least BW had seasons to change the time a bit
they could work out the 11 year old special protagonists, helping the main guys and by plot having to deal with "imposible" fights and situations, and not just "hey you kid you can deal with all these bye"
When ever I have a pokemon battle I always imagine me in an awesome anime battle struggling to beat the gym leader but then when I take out one of the gym leaders Pokemon he is shocked
the creator said the manga is the closest thing to how he wanted the pokemon world to be. i would love to play a kanto remake based off the manga where half the gym leaders are aligned with team rocket, and the elite four is insane
This is the video i was waiting for. Man it was so good just listening to that story. Pokemon is wasted potential sometimes and it hurts. But we’re waiting for that moment when maybe, just maybe they pull something like that. Kind of like how people watch one punch man for that one moment where he fights someone just as strong. On another note, Pokemon reborn is dangerously close to what you described. So enjoy it buddy, its probably the best Pokemon experience we’ll have.
Happy ended up on the wrong side of the tracks, and Killer was (rather ironically) killed by his own ego. Honestly, they might've been happier in the daycare lol.
This is what SwSh does good in my opinion, you actually feel that you are actually a really good trainer as you complete the gyms and people drop out and everyone is watching you, anticipating what will happen next, you literally become a celebrity.
I Only Really Stream that ain’t gonna happen without self imposed rules. X and Y, one of the easiest games was made extremely difficult for me by implementing nuzlocke rules + limited Pokemon Center + no items in battle. As hard as it was, it was the most fun I had playing a main series game in awhile
cønnahrr It’s a joke- I’m acting like the people who jumped on TTar. I’m basing that first part on his title alone, disliking the video before hearing what he has to say.
I think Pokemon insurgence is a good example of what you're talking about T-tar. The reason we the protagonist and our friends are able to stand above other trainers and fight the cults and God-like legendary Pokemon is because we are the chosen ones with legendary Pokemon of our own. After catching mew and getting the three crystal pieces in that game I definitely felt stronger at that point. I think Pokemon really needs to start taking pages out of fan games' books instead of being threatened by them. Times are changing, kids today aren't the same way that kids were 20 years ago and I think they need to understand that.
Usually when i play a pokemon game i make an oc thats my age that i pretend i’m playing as so i can relate to the story better. But that’s just roleplaying. I as well, hate that the pokemon protags are 11
During the middle of the vid when you were explaining the types of things Pokemon should do was a really effective concept I mean it’s seems fairly simple but it’s a game changer nice vid👍🏻
I like how Ttar didn't bring up the one main fact that the manga basically explained, which is that the protagonists have the pokedex. Now I get that in the anime everyone has one but that's the anime whereas in the manga and game only the protagonists have the dex heck ive seen plenty of trainers who go say things like "Oh you have a pokedex?" and "Aw man I wish I had a pokedex like you." and if anyone needs confirmation read the manga or look for the pokemon collector in the diamond/pearl route under veilstone city that's one i saw recently while replaying pokemon pearl.
That may be true but possessing the Pokedex does not make you stronger in any way. It is just a science instrument to record pokemon. This does set you apart from youngster Joey but it doesn't make you any better. Ttar's point is that the story needs to make you feel stronger and acknowledging it, in addition to being special.
How does that make a difference though? In most of the games at least you can go through them ignoring the pokedex pretty much entirely and not have any effect on your adventure
this is an irrelevant point no one uses the pokedex in their playthroughs besides trying to fill it to get something from the professer in the game respectively
@@smileyface9064 ah, but the manga explains that the pokedex is only given to those who have some special power. The nicknames they give the pokedex holders in the manga aren't just nicknames. There's a reason they call yellow the "healer"(just giving the most obvious example here. No one can deny that yellow has special powers) Plus, it's often implied that the pokedex is the only device that can cancel a pokemon's evolution once it's started, with the everstone being the only item that can come close by preventing pokemon from starting their evolution.
@@dbooth3975 this information would need to be present in the game for it to have the effect. In the games your a kid that just moved to X town in X region and professor X gives you a pokedex. There's no mention of you, the player being special for it. It's nice that the manga, the more story driven medium, has this context for their characters but the main games just dont
Only the SM protagonist look like real ten year olds. Before hand id argue that there age is whatever you want em to be. Can we talk about Elio's Ultra pose. I'm godly confident that people don't pose like that.
And in insurgence your father who is the auger sends you mew to help you in your journy agaisnt powerful foes that you have to work hard to beat as well, fan games are better than official ones
Hinata Uzumaki of course, cause people know what they want and actually use that potential. Games like insurgance and reborn capitalize on things gamefreak probably never will. Its the kind of fan service thats actually good.
When I was 10 I couldn't walk. When I was 11 I took down a terrorist organisation that had completely out-manoeuvred the government with only my feet and half a day of combat training. Their impeccable logic checks out.
I like that there's no explanation, it's funnier, and it's a good message that no matter who you are if you work hard enough you can become the best at something. I like the force lose idea so it feels good that beat them, but just telling the audience something doesn't mean they'll feel it, You have to show it, and when you do the training the game shows you getting better so you feel it.
I can see how it's crazy that a 11 year old kid literally goes in different dimensions,Defeat whole evil organizations, AND saves the WHOLE world while at age 11 to 16. But doing the Pokemon challenge like the gyms and Elite four isn't that crazy but it's like wtf a kid just wrecked me lol
I think this is why fans are so attracted to the Extreme Randomizers. Everything is out of their control in terms of Pokemon but also because of the story. We, as fans, love the story because of the things you mentioned. - Hau is so much stronger than you, with unwinnable battles. - Everyone is surprised by the things you as the main character do, but at the same time, have 0 idea by what you did - Even trainers you meet and battle, have something interesting to say about your battle - You are important by the reasoning of something larger (like in Extreme Sun it's Necrozma) and so much more.
Great video TTube! I believe that the reason why this is a problem is because of the silent protagonist format. For an RPG, there is not a lot of talking. For example, Tidas in Final Fantasy X. In that game, you see the story through his eyes, you see his opinion on the new world he explores and how he reacts to the story going on. For later Pokemon protagonists, I want the silent protagonist trope to finally die. Your trainer has a personality that is either set or you can control, kind of like the Mystery Dungeon games.
I feel like they should develop 2 models for both genders, one that's a kid, and the other that's a teenager or adult, and the game will ask you if you're a kid or teenager/adult, and your model will be the appropriate choice. They could also use this to have a more mature script for the game dialogue, but then have a PG version if you select the child option.
Truth had to be spoken, and it was spoken. Pokémon is filled with a bunch of errors but hell, it's so much fun.....88.5% of the time (i'm looking at you X/Y). Sword/Shield was the perfect time to make a renewal or define the end of an era and then make the renewal....but, it seems it's neither of both
Yio, ive never watched the DB series (for my own reasons) but the idea you explained about the being the mysterious dudes student sounds hella amazing. id love to see how that in a future pokemon game
I honestly like the idea of (official) Pokémon introducing battles you can't win; Pokémon Empyrean and even Snakewood had those, and they're fan-made games! And I adore the idea you presented! It would answer so many unanswered questions, fill in certain blanks and create the potential for a spectacular story! I often say fan-works commonly surpass the original source material, and you, sir, have proven my point :)
It's kinda like first gym leaders training for years actually getting the title leader then getting destroyed by a kid who got they pokemon like yesterday is probably higher level
I guess the protagonists are young because it's an attempt for Game Freak to minimize hentai of the protagonists... I'm pretty sure their plan didn't work. :/
I love this video, you gave me some ideas of what I should do for the short film I wanna write and create. You're absolutely right, if they're able to take down a bad guy group and be the strongest, then show and tell why that is.
“When you see someone’s opinion you gotta counter it right?” This is too real. People nowadays feel like they can’t just agree with something or just respect it even if they disagree, but have to let you know that they’re wrong or they disagree.
Bad Teams : *exist*
10 Year Old Children : I'm About to End This Team’s Whole Career
But they're 11!
Underrated.
Thamill not every protagonist is 10, only the first 3 regions are.
Dawn, Lucas, Nate and Rosa are 14-16
Hilbert, Hilda, Serena and Calem are 16-18
Elio and Selene are 12-14
(Remakes are about 2 years older)
Escanor
@@nick2sws he said in the video that he knows they are not ten. and the age of the character is not what this video was about
As Gladion said: "You know why being a Trainer is so great? Because when you're battling, it doesn't matter if you're a kid or an adult. Everyone's equal in Pokémon battle!"
Except you use a Mega Rayquaza against a Sunflora!
Clearly not, considering the games are abysmally easy and nothing is a proper threat. Without forced lose battles the moment a battle starts the tension goes away cause u know ur gonna win.
Imagine the evil tean leader challenging u once since he recognizes you as a threat, and absolutly deleting your team with like a level 90 when you’re in early 30s. And then an actual climactic final battle against him at the end. Instead we get a villian who’s actually crazy or doesnt know what they’re doing that you beat like 4 times. Zero tension
Except when an adult trains their whole life to become the best and you wipe their team with your starter
@@Endermeen if u want that, play Pokemon Reborn, the evil team leader uses a lv 75 pokemon against u when ur team is in the high 30's low 40's
@@Endermeen "Without forced lose battles the moment a battle starts the tension goes away cause u know ur gonna win. "
But where's the tension if you know yo're going to lose and it will nothing? Forced battles are just time wasters for the player and nothing more...
The literal ten year old defeated the terrorist organization instead of the strongest trainer in the region, they just sit back and watch.
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The Champs are clearly just trying to pull a Cell Saga Goku, wanting the next generation to step up and kick ass
Thamill not every protagonist is 10, only the first 3 regions are.
Dawn, Lucas, Nate and Rosa are 14-16
Hilbert, Hilda, Serena and Calem are 16-18
Elio and Selene are 12-14
PringleDa Prangle Not every protagonist is 10 or 11
I kinda like how its a meme😂
Plot twist:TTar was fired from Nintendo and he is exposing them now
Like in insurgence, literally mew one of the strongest Pokémon chose you to be his owner that’s what makes you special
It think it’s more because of the fact that you’re being pushed into this battle of worlds and gods and stuff.
Like your father is a regular person who has trained his whole life to gain his strength, chose to follow the path he chose, which pushed you into all this craziness at a very young age.
Nah its cuz your dad he sent mew to help you from your dream realm. In Insurgence you are special
King versyrn literally said they weren’t the original ones chosen
Also in insurgence, Persephone even makes a joke about how you have plot armor in the nightmare realm.
Fanfiction shit.
Pokemon needs to implement an unwinnable battle, so the character and the player realized that they aren't strong enough to continue their story yet
I don't know if we need to go that far to force an unwinnable battle. Back in the day this wasn't a problem because the games offered enough challenge where you could possibly lose a battle if your team wasn't ready. But nowadays gameplay has become so easy and for kids that losing a battle is impossible.
@@1polyron1 how else then? 🤔 Because I can't figure anything out besides an automatic lose
Or at least tougher ai
I like the idea of an unwinnable battle for story reasons like when you face the leader of the evil organization for the first time
just thought of that...
By the end of this year Ttar’s gonna get an epic wizard beard.
That would be pretty cool
That beard is kinda gross I wish he would cut it tbh
A beard to rival those of Gandalf and Dumbledore themselves
Shane Alexandria Kenny I agree! Its way too much. If it can house a bird family in it then its way too much. I would like to chop it off(Or at least thats how i feel about men growing out their beards.).
He wishes haha
Thousand Year old legendary Pokemon worshiped as a literal God:
"Oho Trainer, you dare approach me?"
Ten Year old child with a simple bug Pokemon that knows spore:
"I can't beat the crap out of you without getting closer."
Has to say "crap" cause the protagonist is 11
I smell a JoJo reference
Then come as close as you like *gets confused and first turned spore master ball capture.
Is that a mother fucking jojos reference
My weedle is indestructible!!! This is a super weedle 1, and this Is A super weedle 2! And this is a Super Weedle 3!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
Pokemon be like
"I'm eleven and i saved the universe and literally caught god inside a ball"
Those aren't gods though - it's like Indian people worshipping cows, it's their religion and tradition, but that doesn't mean it's real.
Arceus is littarely the god of pokemons 🤦♂️
First name Last name Not every pokemon protagonist is 10 or 11. You’re telling me that Callum, Hilbert, and Serena look 10 to you?
@Tanim Chowdhury Arceus isn't a creator of the world. It's a stupid goat evolved from Mew, that can't even punch stuff. Even if was supposed to have 1000 hands. It's nothing more than some idol and fairy tale. Just because it is written on some rocks in Sinnoh, it doesn't mean it's true.
@@TheSwooj I mean Lucas and Dawn also don't look ten, but they are. But pretty much - it's still kids fantasy. It's like saying that Narnia stories, Harry Potter or Percy Jackson are stupid. Same reasoning, so OP isn't much reasonable either way.
I cried at your story because Pokemon would never make a game like this.
I can only hope.
Same, it made be think of a world where tpc actually cared about bringing their stories to new levels
I cried at how beautiful the set up was for the protagonist
Ughhhhh aktuallyyyyyyyy they're *11* and that makes a huge difference.
And let's not talk about how Bonnie can't be a trainer because she's 10, but literal *PRESCHOOLERS* can be trainers.
People say Bonnie can't be a trainer but she basically trained the God of Order.
Bonnie killed a man
TheCrystalMelon put a zygarde against his head
Exactly. You as a player aren't allowed to become a trainer until you're 11, yet you fight trainers who are preschoolers and little kids... logic 100
Bonnie likes Backpackers
“A TEN YEAR OLD SWIMS ON WATER DEMON AND LAVA DEMON MEANWHILE CAPTURE THE GODS OF TIME AND SPACE AND RIDE ON ANCIENT LIZARD DRAGON...AND ALSO PLAY A FLUTE TO PUT A GOD IN A POKEBALL” - RANT FROM 1:40-2:40 is the best rant you’ve had
*lava, *demons
Wow, I loved that story you made. It would be amazing if game freak put a similar story into a game
Ikr I would really look forward to something like that.
It isn't even an entire story, just important beats for a story that add character to the player.
That train for 3 years is cool but weird, who would want to climb a mountain for 3 years and maybe die with a random dude you don't even know the name of
MimikyuGacha 778 it’s like Naruto and Jiraiya
Too bad Game Freak are too lazy to do such a thing
I honestly think about every topic in this video all the time, this is why when I start a new game, I always picture myself as an older character in my head, and in battles when I'm so strong that im blowing people over in a few turns , it's like the episode where that one dude blew Ash away with that latios and darkrai. I feel like when you're this strong to be doing all the stuff our MC's end up doing, to see it as a kid is comical.
There needs to be battles that we LOSE. Characters that put stakes on the line. We need tension to make the story more intense. Thats what I liked about black and white. When you got to the end, and defeated N only for Ghetsis to roll up? Tell me that wasn't INSANE. That game easily put difficulty on the line. Not every battle felt like I was some otherworldly being terminating everything in my path. I actually felt like there was something on the line with the battles in those games, regardless of some of the flaws they held.
I wont be the guy who tells you that the guys name is Tobias.
*his name is tobias*
Blackwhite1/and2 were top tier along with gold and silver remakes
Why hasn’t game freak hired you
he's too good for them
on a serious note i agree why not
They’re scared of money
@@smithbeentrill oooohhhhh $12.99
David Edwards They're Xenophobic
Because he is crazy sometimes
It's like everyone in the games is just used to it by now. You used to get Rocket Grunts that were like "I lost to a kid?", and now we get Champions that are just like "congratulations, you won". These prodigy kids are everywhere.
Think about it, your player character isn't the only one. Look at all the trainers in the Battle Tower, Frontier, Maison, Tree.
Like oh great, here we go again, another one of those kids. Time to prepare the Hall of Fame.
"kids with their energy climb up fast". Just like ttar in his prime days. Remember the black n white videos😁
Also if anyone is wondering. I mean Pokémon black n white
@@yoshigod3633 Lmao we get ya don't worry
@@Mocroskate I know but I was afraid someone is gonna misinterpret it lol
@@yoshigod3633 well i was almost about to 😅 but that one was a good one 😂
Dont you mean *SCIZORTV*
You just literally, unironically, pulled a better plot and rough draft of a story out of your ass, that blows almost all of Game Freak's stories out of the water.
Not really. He made a rough draft with little to no actual foundation.
Ash from the anime laughts at this he could slap it out the water
ash's best was in sinnoh, after that it's all shounen garbage tbh
“Your favorite show has flaws”
Wait, tyranitartube is trash?
he's garbage
TyranitarTube he’s not give me extreme god damn it
He’s actually the besr
sarcastic dud why not?
@Lil Pump the Suicune GET BACK IN THE BOX
Sorry I haven’t watched too much extreme.
I'm glad you acknowledged that BW1 makes a modicum of sense with why the main characters are so strong by the end. The game makes it at least seem feasible with how the story flows and with the thematic showdowns taking place at the Pokemon League. Other main character's strength just seems to be BS though. The only one I'd give a pass to is Red.
Victor and Gloria being given a rabbit 3 days ago and is sponsered by a champion fucking defeats a dragon that can annihalate the region and defeats the undefeated champion in a week
"your girls got flaws, she doesn't floss" - ttar 2019.
Lol
Also ttar, 2019: "These glasses have the power of friendship, they're a prodigy"
I think all pokemon protagonists should be 16
@TheGreatGavino 6 No
“Don’t train your Pokémon to be stronger. Show them love and care for them.”
Me one day later: Alright, time to catch a HM slave.
I never actually made a full hm slave in pokemon. I gave them out evenly...*hears the hammer and sickle*...oh no what have I done?
@@chaosrainX
I didn't make HM slaves either....
@7 Melt we pimped out ditto
Can you make an in-depth video about your idea of a perfect pokemon game?
love him or hate him - mans spittin nothin but facts 😌🤚
Well those aren't facts, those are just his opinions. Everyone has different opinions of things. I personally never felt it was this deep. I just looked at it like I train my pokemon properly and everyone else just doesn't. I WOULD however like to make my character more appropriate to me and my actual age since I'm in my 20s
Nick Brown sis it was a joke
@@fionnbarnaville5488 Nani.....???😐
@@DNB770 It was a joke, something that isn't meant to be taken serious.
@@DNB770 okay
"You're overpowered and no one cares...."
Well, Maxie in Omega Ruby is shocked whenever you defeat him....
He meant is as we arent shocked because going in we know we can beat everyone pretty ez. The starters are broken, always and other trainers dont scale. Personally a cool idea would be thay other trainers have mutiple versions i.e. that early level bug trainer will get a new team after every badge or some preset moment that reflects the level changes. Maybe even time skip event where you come back older. Make grinding in certain area sort of like being inside the hyperbolic time chamber but everyone ages with you. Maybe side quest for your birthday/moms bday.
Also in my head-canon lvls do not mean a pokemon is stronger i.e. a lvl 1 and lvl 100 pokemon are nearly identical. Except level is just how used to combat a pokemon is so it makes sense levels are required to evolve mons as evolutions is traditionally done to survive etc.
Me: living in asia, 2am, "Time to sleep!"
Ttar: uploads a video
Me: "I got plenty of time to sleep...When im dead... LETS WATCH TTAR!!"
Wtf lol
Minseok Moon feel the pain of North America
And so, your rival appears again with revenge in his eyes.
He was so desperate to win that he embraced the "evil" powers. Corrupted his own Pokemon and equipped illegal items to make sure of his victory.
Wasnt the sun and moon characters chosen by Tapu Koko
cavalierSpace 30 yes I think that did happen
And I think you get chosen by mesprit in diamond, pearl, and platinum
Yeah they were, so at least they’re valid.
You have being red in gen 1, having suicune or one of them take a liking to you in gen 2, having a gym leader as a dad in gen 3, mesprit noticing you in gen 4, uhhhh.... N seeing something in you in gen 5? And I think alder liking you in the sequels but that doesn’t really mean shit, I have no fucking clue how you’re the “chosen” in gen 6 but then there’s tapu oneofthem saving you and giving you the Z rock shit in gen 7
Oh yeah also the b/w stones or something adding onto gen 5
Random People: Pokemon has never made battles you can't win
"Someone's" Garchomp : Am I a joke to you?
r u talking about Pokemon Reborn?
Hinata Uzumaki no it was a reborn joke
@@dhabbuli23 ohh shit, but that dosnt make much sense as when they say pokemon they mean the official games, many fan games have battles you cant win
TheMatrix23 ultra necrozma: I’m a joke to you???
Someone Milktank: Am I a joke to you?
The protagonists are all Kirito.
Alacaurio more like naruto andonr piece combined
One piece*
I agree with the kirito one cause he wins almost all fights in anime without training but Naruto trains everytime before every arc (I like both series) idk bout one piece havent gotten very far into that (only ep 17)
I think luffy has won most full on fights , except the times there were exceptions with the navy, and a few other other arcs, same with naruto, in all of his arcs with certain villains
To be fair Kirito had a very weak explanation for why he was so good. Playing the beta before anyone else and maybe be a super gamer that has played many games and defined the meta but I don't give a shit. Not trying to defend it but he's at least Black and White level of character motivation. All the other ones don't show any clue if they are going to be good, I think Ash's father was rumored to be a very good trainer but that's the anime and doesn't relate to Ash at all besides genetics.
So basically ttar wants pokemon to be a shonen jump anime 🤣
Not a bad idea tbh
My hero pokemon
DerpSaliva7 yup
That would be awesome though
@TheGreatGavino 6 yes, i am aware of how shonen works, thanks for having my joke go over your head *woosh*
I believe the reason why you are some random nobody in pokemon games is to show that you dont have to be anyone special or have special advantages in life to be able to do great things as long as you believe in doing the right thing and keeping true to yourself and what's inside your heart is all you need to be able to do amazing things
@@joshuamillar2798 true
The story TTar suggested does all those things. It says that you’re only considered “special” because you believe in yourself and your Pokémon and in doing the right thing.
You made it sound like earthbound, and I approve, Earthbound with magical elemental animals. oh and that Bellsprout? looked godly for a mouse drawing!
Wait, TTR said Cynthia is age 34...so that means....
*Rule 34 joined the chat*
Lol
😂😂
It joined a long time ago.
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I hear ya ttar, esp felt that when I breezed platinum in over a week during my Christmas hols, felt like it was all continuous. At least BW had seasons to change the time a bit
they could work out the 11 year old special protagonists, helping the main guys and by plot having to deal with "imposible" fights and situations, and not just "hey you kid you can deal with all these bye"
When ever I have a pokemon battle I always imagine me in an awesome anime battle struggling to beat the gym leader but then when I take out one of the gym leaders Pokemon he is shocked
This is why the manga is amazing!
@Tricky Nicky and that makes it great 🤣
Tricky Nicky It isn’t,but it still should be looked at to make the games better,(not that their bad).
the creator said the manga is the closest thing to how he wanted the pokemon world to be. i would love to play a kanto remake based off the manga where half the gym leaders are aligned with team rocket, and the elite four is insane
BRO THIS STORY WAS SO GOOD!!!!, If you continued this i'd watch it!!!!
I love how all of the text is lower case, it just makes it so funny to me and I don't know why
YOU NEED TO MAKE A FAN GAME MAN, SUCH GOOD IDEAS
listen, those drawings tho-
Damn...you killed it in this video! I LOVED IT FROM START TO FINISH!
What's one point he made?
That legendary pokemon trainer sounded like All Might lol but Im not gonna lie I would def play a game with a good story like that
itachi93674 same
Love these discussion videos, keep up dem fire uploads my dude!🔥🔥🔥
Bruh I also just realized my comment made it in. I’m amit dosanjh!😂😂
Ttars 15 minute story that he just improvised is already better than half of the pokemon games
i always thought that the protagonist had such a good bond with pokemon that they could overcome the odds
Nice idea!
This reminds me of how no NPC's ever react to when you walk around with a pokemon that was considered a literal legend.
Protagonist: Has multiple gods that control the very fabric of reality at their beck and call.
The poor saps that have to fight them: *This is fine*.
yo TTar should be a game designer
That's what I'm saying. 😮
aidan l
When I learn coding, I might hire him to write the story !
This is the video i was waiting for. Man it was so good just listening to that story. Pokemon is wasted potential sometimes and it hurts. But we’re waiting for that moment when maybe, just maybe they pull something like that. Kind of like how people watch one punch man for that one moment where he fights someone just as strong.
On another note, Pokemon reborn is dangerously close to what you described. So enjoy it buddy, its probably the best Pokemon experience we’ll have.
I don't think so as he has no reason to be as hood either. There is an explanation, in Sun and Moon, Gladion states that age does not matter.
That you left Happy and Killer so long in the daycare
They are both dead. Now they are in Arceusland.
Happy is a ghost because he died, then was revived with Donkey.
@Legitimate Happy didn’t die he was arrested, Killer died.
Happy ended up on the wrong side of the tracks, and Killer was (rather ironically) killed by his own ego. Honestly, they might've been happier in the daycare lol.
This is what SwSh does good in my opinion, you actually feel that you are actually a really good trainer as you complete the gyms and people drop out and everyone is watching you, anticipating what will happen next, you literally become a celebrity.
Pokemon is great but it isn’t perfect.
I love it with and without it perfection.
@Warm Lillie more like Warm Marnie
True words 👍
Absolutely true.
I need a main series Pokémon game with a dark souls difficulty
I Only Really Stream that ain’t gonna happen without self imposed rules. X and Y, one of the easiest games was made extremely difficult for me by implementing nuzlocke rules + limited Pokemon Center + no items in battle. As hard as it was, it was the most fun I had playing a main series game in awhile
@@gavincognion6637 We shouldn't handicap ourselves to not use options the game gives us just to make it seem more difficult. That's bad game design.
At the beginning 👎🏼 “You’re on THIN ICE ttar”
Watches till the end ... 👍🏼 “you made it this far, boy-“
cønnahrr
It’s a joke- I’m acting like the people who jumped on TTar. I’m basing that first part on his title alone, disliking the video before hearing what he has to say.
Ttar, I am BEGGING you. PLEASE upload extreme. The plot is finally getting good!
This the 20 minute content I subbed for
I think Pokemon insurgence is a good example of what you're talking about T-tar. The reason we the protagonist and our friends are able to stand above other trainers and fight the cults and God-like legendary Pokemon is because we are the chosen ones with legendary Pokemon of our own. After catching mew and getting the three crystal pieces in that game I definitely felt stronger at that point. I think Pokemon really needs to start taking pages out of fan games' books instead of being threatened by them. Times are changing, kids today aren't the same way that kids were 20 years ago and I think they need to understand that.
Lol that first response must’ve been from a troll, how does being 11 instead of 10 invalidate his point? 11 is still a child.
Usually when i play a pokemon game i make an oc thats my age that i pretend i’m playing as so i can relate to the story better. But that’s just roleplaying.
I as well, hate that the pokemon protags are 11
SwSh doesn't even compare to your animations
I'm reminded of Pokemon Wack with those drawings....Ttar should play that!
Cant wait for ttars new pokemon game all drawn by hand....dont let me down
Pokemon Wack's sprites for fakemon are similar... XD
I am pretty sure I only heard one explanation in the game and that is all trainers are equal no matter what the age
During the middle of the vid when you were explaining the types of things Pokemon should do was a really effective concept I mean it’s seems fairly simple but it’s a game changer nice vid👍🏻
I like how Ttar didn't bring up the one main fact that the manga basically explained, which is that the protagonists have the pokedex. Now I get that in the anime everyone has one but that's the anime whereas in the manga and game only the protagonists have the dex heck ive seen plenty of trainers who go say things like "Oh you have a pokedex?" and "Aw man I wish I had a pokedex like you." and if anyone needs confirmation read the manga or look for the pokemon collector in the diamond/pearl route under veilstone city that's one i saw recently while replaying pokemon pearl.
That may be true but possessing the Pokedex does not make you stronger in any way. It is just a science instrument to record pokemon. This does set you apart from youngster Joey but it doesn't make you any better. Ttar's point is that the story needs to make you feel stronger and acknowledging it, in addition to being special.
How does that make a difference though? In most of the games at least you can go through them ignoring the pokedex pretty much entirely and not have any effect on your adventure
this is an irrelevant point no one uses the pokedex in their playthroughs besides trying to fill it to get something from the professer in the game respectively
@@smileyface9064 ah, but the manga explains that the pokedex is only given to those who have some special power.
The nicknames they give the pokedex holders in the manga aren't just nicknames. There's a reason they call yellow the "healer"(just giving the most obvious example here. No one can deny that yellow has special powers)
Plus, it's often implied that the pokedex is the only device that can cancel a pokemon's evolution once it's started, with the everstone being the only item that can come close by preventing pokemon from starting their evolution.
@@dbooth3975 this information would need to be present in the game for it to have the effect. In the games your a kid that just moved to X town in X region and professor X gives you a pokedex. There's no mention of you, the player being special for it. It's nice that the manga, the more story driven medium, has this context for their characters but the main games just dont
Only the SM protagonist look like real ten year olds. Before hand id argue that there age is whatever you want em to be.
Can we talk about Elio's Ultra pose. I'm godly confident that people don't pose like that.
In reborn you r like 20 years old it makes more sense especially because you become friends with important people
Andrew Y i highly doubt you’re 20. Pretty sure you’re still a teen
@@Endermeen you have to be at least 18 because you are not taken into the lapis orphanage
Andrew Y yeah I was thinking like 18, even if it was 20+ i would love that more
And in insurgence your father who is the auger sends you mew to help you in your journy agaisnt powerful foes that you have to work hard to beat as well, fan games are better than official ones
Hinata Uzumaki of course, cause people know what they want and actually use that potential. Games like insurgance and reborn capitalize on things gamefreak probably never will. Its the kind of fan service thats actually good.
Really loving these rant/discussion vids man
Eyy Ttar u lookin like a lion yoday champ!
Keep up the AMAZING work!
Love the saily uploads keep it up as long as you can and as long as you enjoy it!
Yeszszszsz! Plot progression! Character development! Transition to greatness!!!!! Your analogy is exactly what I want TTube!!!! Sense!
Wtf 11 and 10 are pretty much the same things “UGGHH no hes 11 not 10 and that means he can beat god”
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Alpha_Raccoon Those people were joking.
I could barely open doors when I was 10, and when I became 11 I stabbed God with a toothpick. I don’t see the problem here.
When I was 10 I couldn't walk. When I was 11 I took down a terrorist organisation that had completely out-manoeuvred the government with only my feet and half a day of combat training. Their impeccable logic checks out.
Uhh no dude, it's 12
This was actually amazing. U really opened my eyes on this subject
*”If you wish to defeat me, train for another 100 years.”*
Ttar really trying to make Pokemon into a Persona game.
Technoblade fan?
I like that there's no explanation, it's funnier, and it's a good message that no matter who you are if you work hard enough you can become the best at something. I like the force lose idea so it feels good that beat them, but just telling the audience something doesn't mean they'll feel it, You have to show it, and when you do the training the game shows you getting better so you feel it.
I couldn’t stop starring at his beard.
HailedSpace25 it’s bad tbh. Like it looks like pubic hair. His hairstyle needs to go too
facts pointen!
BUT...can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that Ttar's goatee and hair are glowing and fabulous? like, omg
Youngster Joey: Beats Elite 4 with level 1 ratata.
Elite 4: Very well, you may pass
I can see how it's crazy that a 11 year old kid literally goes in different dimensions,Defeat whole evil organizations, AND saves the WHOLE world while at age 11 to 16. But doing the Pokemon challenge like the gyms and Elite four isn't that crazy but it's like wtf a kid just wrecked me lol
Hey buddy, you haven't shown up in my recommended in a long time. How have ya been Tyranitar Tube? Good seeing one of your videos again!
This is such a good video, keep it up @TyranitarTube👌🏼🤙🏼👍🏼👍🏼
T-tar: so the game should be like this...
Gamefreak: you writing this down?
I think this is why fans are so attracted to the Extreme Randomizers. Everything is out of their control in terms of Pokemon but also because of the story. We, as fans, love the story because of the things you mentioned.
- Hau is so much stronger than you, with unwinnable battles.
- Everyone is surprised by the things you as the main character do, but at the same time, have 0 idea by what you did
- Even trainers you meet and battle, have something interesting to say about your battle
- You are important by the reasoning of something larger (like in Extreme Sun it's Necrozma)
and so much more.
Love that beard.
I hope someone makes a fangame on this story.
10\11 year olds are every evil team's weakness
I agree 100 percent but evil NPCs always comment on how you're such a powerful kid
Great video TTube! I believe that the reason why this is a problem is because of the silent protagonist format. For an RPG, there is not a lot of talking. For example, Tidas in Final Fantasy X. In that game, you see the story through his eyes, you see his opinion on the new world he explores and how he reacts to the story going on. For later Pokemon protagonists, I want the silent protagonist trope to finally die. Your trainer has a personality that is either set or you can control, kind of like the Mystery Dungeon games.
By the way, your mouse drawn visuals reminded me of Pokemon Spoof from waaaay back in the day lmaooo
This strikes just the right spot with everything. What you mean, what I thought before and how it all comes together. YOU. ARE. SO. RIGHT!
That ending jumpscared me and almost threw off my headphones lol.
I feel like they should develop 2 models for both genders, one that's a kid, and the other that's a teenager or adult, and the game will ask you if you're a kid or teenager/adult, and your model will be the appropriate choice.
They could also use this to have a more mature script for the game dialogue, but then have a PG version if you select the child option.
Truth had to be spoken, and it was spoken. Pokémon is filled with a bunch of errors but hell, it's so much fun.....88.5% of the time (i'm looking at you X/Y). Sword/Shield was the perfect time to make a renewal or define the end of an era and then make the renewal....but, it seems it's neither of both
Yio, ive never watched the DB series (for my own reasons) but the idea you explained about the being the mysterious dudes student sounds hella amazing. id love to see how that in a future pokemon game
Dawn is 10? Well, that didn't save her from rule34.
@WaddleSenpai it doesn't, but she's still 10.
I honestly like the idea of (official) Pokémon introducing battles you can't win; Pokémon Empyrean and even Snakewood had those, and they're fan-made games!
And I adore the idea you presented! It would answer so many unanswered questions, fill in certain blanks and create the potential for a spectacular story!
I often say fan-works commonly surpass the original source material, and you, sir, have proven my point :)
Ttar you're hilarious. Thanks for making my day.🤣🤣🤣 This is how many agree.
It's kinda like first gym leaders training for years actually getting the title leader then getting destroyed by a kid who got they pokemon like yesterday is probably higher level
I guess the protagonists are young because it's an attempt for Game Freak to minimize hentai of the protagonists... I'm pretty sure their plan didn't work. :/
I'd argue It had the opposite effect
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I love this video, you gave me some ideas of what I should do for the short film I wanna write and create. You're absolutely right, if they're able to take down a bad guy group and be the strongest, then show and tell why that is.
Thamill should help design the next Pokémon game’s story
“When you see someone’s opinion you gotta counter it right?”
This is too real. People nowadays feel like they can’t just agree with something or just respect it even if they disagree, but have to let you know that they’re wrong or they disagree.