Points aren't everything. I didn't know a team needed a "defenceman" to put up points, pretty sure that's what the forwards are for. Plus, leadership is a nice bonus, I'm a Habs fan, and with an "in the moment" mindset, I think we won.
+Adam Davison I completely agree with you, Defence is a type of player to play a physical, more behind the play than offence, Eric Karlson is basically a forward, or back in the old days, a rover (6th position placed between the two defensemen).
Well I agree Nashville won, they don't win this year or maybe even next. It will be in the years following. Yes PK will probably put up more points bit Weber is much better defensively and still gets points as well. MTL won for this upcoming and maybe the season after. But then Nashville will have the better end of the deal.
And then he went on to say that he wont resign so win anything with New Jersey, news flash New Jersey has been getting better each year so in the next 4 years it's a possibility we go far in the playoffs (not saying we take it all) but for him to sit there and say what New Jersey will and will not do pisses me off sorry
+Monkey Weather yea dude Edmonton, Buffalo, Calgary and toronto are the only rebuilding teams that actually have a future. Toronto has nylander, Marner, and Matthews. Edmonton has all of their first overall picks. Buffalo has reinhart, eichel and Kane. And Calgary has gaudreau, Bennett, Monahan. All of these rebuilding teams have a bunch of prospects/rookies. New Jersey doesn't really have that many
+Hockey_ _402 Devils really have been building their farm the last yr and a half under Shero. Lou Lam never signed NCAA specs, but since Shero has taken over we have signed quite a few. Devils farm was bottom 5 a few yrs ago but I would say its about middle of the pack, and we also have a bunch of 2nds and 3rds the next 2 yrs. Hall speeds the rebuild up immediately. Zacha who was our top 6 pick last yr should get a big role this yr if he can produce. Same with Quenville and Santini. I hope they pan out
What EDM had to pay for a defenseman like Larsson really makes the Canucks GM look like a genius getting a 6'5" stud Erik Gudbranson for a 185 pound less than 10 goal-scorer Jared Mcann. Hall had 65 pts last season.
everyone be shitting on the devils jeezus, 2 thirty goal scorers in Henrique and Palmeiri, an elite goaltender in Cory Schneider and now Taylor Hall? Taylor Hall will lead the Devils to the playoffs, simply put. If Cammalleri and Schneider stayed healthy for the whole season they would've made the playoffs last season. Taylor is good friends with Henrique, and said he's looking forward to a change of scenery, Hall will be the guy in New Jersey, the fans will cherish him and the franchise will build around him. Not sure why Johnny thinks he's going to leave, he's going to experience success right off the bat and could easily make the playoffs in his first season as a devil. My prediction is his play skyrockets over the next few seasons, and Shero builds around him. The devils wouldn't have gone after him if they thought they would just lose him in free agency 4 years later.
Great points. Devils were on the verge last year but the injury bug screwed us over. Hall is a fantastic acquisition and we finally have a decent top 6. If we can acquire one more defenseman thru FA and sign Schlemko, I truly believe this team can make the playoffs.
People are insane. Im a devils fan but i dont see them making the playoffs. our defence is very shitty now. All of our defence are either 2nd or 3rd pairing guys. Our best prospect is damon severson who is kind of a defensive liability. Andy greene is a top 4 defender playing top 2 minutes. santini is most likely gonna play on the 3rd pairing as a rookie. jon merrill's development kinda stalled so maybe he can start developing again. if anything, maybe we can trade with carolina for one of the shit load of defensive prospects. they might want a goalie so maybe wedgewood, blackwood or appleby are trading chips. As for offense we dont have that elite playmaking centre who can dish the puck to palmieri, hall, camellari and boucher. henrique scored more goals than assists last year, pavel zacha is more of a goalscorer than a playmaker and people expect him to play left wing next year and zajac isnt good. He is a third line center making second line money. He hasnt had 50 points since 2009-10 when we had parise and kovalchuk.
edmonton got absolutely butt fucked in this trade. Hall is ranked 3rd in points/60 Mins over the last 3 seasons only behind benn and Crosby. Oilers will be rebuilding until mcdavid has 6 years in the league and he gets traded
+Chris P. Bacon hahah they traded a guy who led the team in points pretty much since he's gotten there for an unproven 23 yr old defense who nobody knows. so he's not gonna make the oilers better sorry to tell yah
Not to mention last year was the only full season he played for the Devils. so again I'll stick by what I said and that is the oilers got bent over and fucked in the ass raw .. yes raw no lub
Well some can like Kane sequin players like those but I agree with the fact about the defensemen but trading a top winger who has proved themselves for a defenceman who was supposed to be good and hasn't proven anything is not a good trade. Plus if it was like a nuge or a yakapov for Larson it would be worth because ur getting rid of a player who doesn't want to be there or a centre that isn't too good and is getting over shadowed by McDavid and draisaitl but instead they got rid of a lw which they don't have a really good one other then hall.
Montreal got the better end of the deal. Adding Weber makes them a physically scary team. Shaw, Gallagher, Weber, Emelin. That's a tough, mean core. Weber is 6'4" 240lb beast that claps 110mph slapshots all day. Weber is more consistent and a far better leader. That's who Montreal wants, an old fashioned, tough mofo that just does his job. Not a guy that does unnecessary dekes and dives like michael phelps. I also feel that Weber has a better offensive upside aswell. Think about it, would Subban be considered as good as he is if he wasn't constantly in the media? I don't think so.
Montreal isn't a scary team at all, Weber couldn't keep up with the Sharks and they're not even a fast team. Wait until he goes up against the fast skating east without Josi to bail him out.
You know what I just realized, that all of the top 5 picks in the 2010 entry draft are not with the team that drafted them 1. Taylor Hall drafted by Edmonton, now in New Jersey (2016) 2. Tyler Seguin drafted by Boston, now in Dallas (2013) 3. Erik Gudbranson drafted by Florida, now in Vancouver (2016) 4. Ryan Johansen drafted by Columbus, now in Nashville (2016) 5. Nino Niderider drafted by Islanders now in Minnesota (2013)
4 years later... Habs won this trade by far. I was so mad seeing Subban go but Weber is still as good as before while Subban decreased a LOT. I wonder if Weber stayed in Nashville they might had a cup...
I agree when Johnny said that Hall is gonna want to win a cup or play with a contending team but to me as a devils fan, we are there. We were one top line player away from making it to the playoffs and we missed it this year because Corey hurt himself and so did Elias. But if they stay healthy and now with an amazing left winger that hall is, I think we get the playoffs this year and after that, as all of us hockey fans know, playoff hockey is an animal that no one can predict. So we will have to wait for that. I also believe that hall is now bait for some free agents that the Devils can go after. Maybe now we go after a top defensemen or maybe a nice second liner to play with Patrick if he stays. It's a very interesting free agency year and I can't wait until July 1st. Happy to be a devils fan rn
Geroges Lararaque who now works in a sports radio station as a journalist said that he spoke privately to a couple of Habs players and that they just couldn't stand Subban because of his attitude and the terrible season just made it worse. Laraque totally called the trade like 3-4 months ago he said that there was no chance that Subban would still be a Montreal Canadien after July 1st because of what he heard about what was happening in the locker room. This is the main reason of the trade.
Hey John! Man I couldn't believe it when I heard it. Subban gone from the Canadiens. As a fan of them and Subban it hurts. But I'd like to thank you for shedding some light onto it for me. & I think everyone is as flustered as you are man! Thanks for the great videos & keep it up.
Everyone incredibly underestimates the Devils. They were in the playoff race this year until two top five players in Camalleri and Schneider got injured. The Devils already have two 30 goal scorers and Zajac is a great playmaker and adding Hall makes a top line of Hall-Henrique-Palmieri/Camalleri which is amazing. With kids like Zacha, Quennville, and Boucher also getting a chance at a full season all the Devils needed is a star like Hall to light their spark. And if they sign someone like Okposo or Nielson then they will be serious contenders.
The Devils aren't exactly in total rebuild because they have a young defensive core that is waiting to break out after two more years (most likely). The entire offensive structure does need work because the main focus has always been on defense and when DeBoer tried to switch the long standing system that Lamoriello built, it failed after one year and he kept going with it. So the process of fitting in a good offense into the solid back line will always be hard, and depending on only two lines is hard. The offensive prospects are improving since Shero has come in, but most of the young guys that they have in the system are people that the team is trying to find some potential. So Hall really should try to for the long haul because he should see that this new revitalized franchise are moving on from old foundations and will burst onto the scene as potential contenders in four years.
It's actually quite refreshing hearing someone who actually knows hockey talking about these trades like some people are so stubborn and blinded by their stubbornness i totally agreed through out this video
+Patches 67s I don't think so. MTL has some serious back checking problems from their forwards causing even more stress for the Dmen with the good forwards who will back check in NSH as well as other talented Dmen who have been allowing Shea Webber more of a break I don't see why Subban couldn't win the Norris. Subban just went to a better overall team with Better Dmen and Shea Webber went to a team with forwards who don't back check and a Dcore that is much worse. Before they even play a game Subban is in a better position to succeed.
As a devils fan myself. I've seen their offense before, it's terrible. Taylor Hall is the stud winger that I wanted. Travis Zajac had a 28 assist season. He can feed the puck to Hall and produce 40 assists next year. Hall can get 35 goals next year. He can also produce 40 assists. He had 36 assists this past year. He is great in both departments. We also have Henrique and Palmieri, both 30 goal scorers and both had 50 points. Put that with Hall, a 30 goal scorer and 60 point scorer. You have got a devastating offense. Johny, mention this comment in the next shootout commentary and talk about it a little bit.
12th overall still shiet and also yeah the devils offense does look better but as a team, they are still bottom dwellers. I still think they suck nutsacks
Hey 2bc this is off topic of the video but how do you feel the leafs acquiring Eric Staal during free agency? Solid veteran forward that can mentor the rookies coming in?
Weber / Subban trade to me is completely insane and I never seen it coming. I understand why both teams made it but my question is why Nashville? You just traded the best Dman in the league. Best... I mean you traded a total stud who was the backbone of your team. Weber is an amazing player and leader. I know Subban is good but i love how Weber carries himself on the ice. He is that sure lock down defensive presence. I'm a Hawks fan and I know that Nashville was that team who gave us fits in the post-season and that was entirely up to that Nashville "defense". Weber will be a stud til the day he retires but I thought that was gonna be in Nashville.
TTH247 Yea i can agree with that. If I was a forward in the NHL i would rather go up against Subban any day of the week over Weber lol. Its an insane trade that I never seen coming. I think both teams got what they needed though. I've always liked Subban so as an NHL fan I'm definitely excited to see what he can truly do. As a Hawks fan though i dread it lol.
Need Reviving I can agree with you. Weber is on 10 years but I think he will be solid until he retires. His fundamentals and knowledge of the game with carry his talent til the day he retires. His leadership and true lock down defensive play is exactly what the Habs need. I will not be surprised if the Habs give him the C or an Alternate right away.(Subban) No denying his talent but his attitude is a bit ridiculous at times. He will be fine playing beside Josi. Weber rubbed off on Josi and look what a player he became.
Interesting takes on each trade. Also add in that Weber doesn't have to be "the man" as captain, although he is going to a harsher hockey market, but he should fit well. Watching this video made me change me perceptions a bit on the trades.
+Migzyy Oh we still need one. At the same time though, The Habs got a much needed defensive defenseman. Free Agent Frenzy starts tomorrow, a gem may be found.
Coming from a Devils fan: The reason why our trade was pulled off was because we need a young scorer that a team is willing to give up for a need of that team. Edmonton needs defense. We were willing to give away our young defender for a young scorer. Edmonton does not need anymore scores on their team, they're loaded with scorers. But in their book, scoring does not win games, in our book, defense wins games. We have plenty of young defenders down in the AHL that can get the call up anytime. We just need scorers. Adding Taylor Hall to our roster, he will most likely play with Henrique and Cammalleri. Henrique had a total of 50 points (30G 20A). With the time Cammalleri got he had a total of 38 points (14G 24A). Adding Hall to our lineup, you can easily see both Henrique's and Cammalleri's totals increasing each year. Just with Hall alone, we can be seen as a better team because we finally have that top scorer that we need. We could easily be 4-5 points out of the playoffs next season
I honestly cannot believe Marc Bergevin did this... trading your best player... this team is terrible now. we good but of course our dumb GM doesn't have a brain
You're acting like they just gave away Subban. You do realize Weber is just as good if not better right? At least Weber doesn't yell at his teammates and toe pick himself every second like Subban.
+G-Dog 9000 your kitting right? I know subban is just as good as weber but 1st of all there's no reason to trade him. were a playoff team and the fact that he took a high risk like that makes no sense second subban is in my opinion younger and he's eventually will be better then weber. By doing this trade the habs only have like 2-3 years to win the cup or else they won't win in 10+ years. this trade isn't that bad but it's very unecessary. sorry if I sound rude but I'm not happy lol #Firebergervin
Well don't forget the Devils had a good year, we have Adam Henrique and Kyle Palmieri who both scored 30 goals, then we just got Beau Bennett, the Devils are very close to getting back to the playoffs, and this year was their best season ever since 2012 when they made it to the finals
john, just mentioning a point you forgot to add, if Weber retires before he is 40 (aka when his current contract is up) nashville has to pay him, not mtl. may have factored into the trade.
For the next few years, maybe 4 or so, the Habs won this deal. I'm a Habs fan and have been for the past 30 years and PK is a defensive liability. Their numbers the past 4 years are almost identical but most people are forgetting one very important factor. Look at the differences in the divisions that each team plays in. You play the most games against teams in your divison and no one can deny that the central is the most potent in all of the NHL. Weber has played great defensive and offensive hockey in the central, not to mention very tough minutes against the leagues best scorers. PK is gonna be lit up game after game and Weber is going to be an absolute BEAST in the Atlantic. Habs win the trade, that is all.
Hall Nico Bratt. All give him the puck. Scores 48 points before allstar break. Edm in the basement Larsson injured not producing offensivly or Defensivly. Its safe to say we WOOOOOOOON this deal
Hall said. "I'm disappointed that I'm not going to be able to see that through, but I'm excited that I'm going to play for a team that wants me. "It's not that Edmonton didn't want me, but I certainly do feel a bit slighted by the whole thing." Also hall played juniors on the spitfires with henrique and there good buds. they combined 464 in three seasons in the O. and they go back farther then that to my knowledge. www2.tsn.ca/bardown/Story.aspx?Taylor+Hall%2C+Adam+Henrique+beyond+stoked+to+be+reunited+in+New+Jersey&id=583539
The Oilers had to make cap space. They have their pick from this year to play RW with McDavid and if they get Lucic he can play LW, then they can sign another defenseman which is probably going to be Demers. It's a smart trade imo, this coming from a Canucks fan.
Hall has played with Henrique before. I imagine Hall will like the change of scenery because Schneider is a top 5 goalie in the league, Devils have a very deep defensive core and Hall will help put that puck in the net. Also, who knows who the Devils will sign in Free Agency. On the other hand, Oilers got a much needed top 2 defense but they easily could have tried to get more. Hall is a proven 1st line forward and being re-united with Henrique may be a nice fit for him.
As much as I don't like the Hall trade, it ultimately helps out the Oilers in three ways. 1. It gives Edmonton an RHD which is something they desperately need. 2. It gives Edmonton roughly $13.3M in cap space to sign both Milan Lucic and Jason Demers 3. Frees up cap space so that Edmonton can resign Draisitl, McDavid, Nurse and Puljujarvi once their ELC expires
As a Predators fan, I am upset Weber left, but we got Subban and I am very happy and excited to see him in a Predators sweater. I feel our chances are even brighter to win a cup now with the younger more offensive Subban. With the young core we have and now add him, I like our chances in the next few years to win that cup.
Let them doubt New Jersey. Top 10 special teams, top 5 defensive team, top 3 goalie. Only thing missing was an offense and we just went out and got Taylor Hall.
The Weber trade is an upgrade on the ice, but a kick to the nuts in the stands. I was able to attend the 2003 draft in person, watched Weber walk across the stage, and watched him develope his whole career. Weber was the face of our franchise for 6 years, was with us through the rough times while remaining very professional the whole time, and I wish nothing but the best for him in Montreal. However, since PK is a much better skater, the speed between Josi and PK will be incredible because lets not forget Josi was less than .5 seconds slower than Larkin and was 2nd overall in the fastest skater. PK helps make that 1st pairing more dynamic as Weber is slower after his knee injury during the 2015 playoffs, but still a very serviceable defender and very good defender. The lack of speed and lack of pocession from Weber was made apparent during the 2nd round against San Jose as he always looked to pass to Josi as he should, and once they took away that pass, then more turnovers began to happen. PK fits Lavy's more uptempo style of play and since we also have Ellis and Ekholm under contract for another 4 years so our d core is still the best in the league. Again hate to lose Weber because of all he has done for Nashville and wish him nothing but success, but at the same time, I'm very excited to add PK to the team.
Any predictions who will become captain of Edmonton (I thought Hall was going to become captain but, yeah) Also if McDavid becomes captain I'm going to be so pissed XD
In my honest opinion I believe the trade evens out, because Montreal adds an older, more experienced player that can help them win now, as well as make more room for cap the next 10 years, however Nashville got a younger player that is still growing, and can not only help out the young team that Nashville has now, but will be able to help them out in the long run as well since he is 4 years younger than Weber. If I had to choose one team to win the trade it would be Nashville because they have so many young, talented players already and bigger name players to help out P.K on the blue line, while Montreal doesn't have any huge name players to help out Weber on the blue line
PK Subban had attitude issues. Wasn't on time to meetings, practice. Focusing more on being PK76 than being PK Subban from the Canadiens. I loved him to death, but the trade had reason behind it. Many teammates were NOT friends with PK and did not appreciate his charisma. Teammates didn't even attend his $10,000,000 contribution ceremony. Not one!! All this information came out this morning on TSN 690. I'm shaken up by this trade, but I KINDA see the reason behind it. I'm happy that we got a beast in Shea Weber who has a good 3-4 years left of solid defending. But in the long run, if we look at this hockey trade...Nashville wins.
This season, PK said and I quote "Drew Doughty is winning the Norris trophy. Look who he plays with and look who I play with". Again, all this came from TSN 690 this morning. Tony Marinaro has great relationships with the MTL Canadiens. He's not BS'ing.
Agreed people think that since Weber is almost 31 year olds he cant play anymore hockey. Last time i checked Jagr was still playing and Chara is 39. and Hossa contract is even worse than Weber. Subban is really good off but hes mediocre in def like Karlsson. they are risky defs. Montreal is a team that focus on def plays with Price in the net. Subban making multiple dumb mistakes last season once again did cost atleast 3-4 games aka 6-8 points atleast. Ofc subban will be better in 5 years but still. subban will be 33 and Weber 38. People are dumb
Subban is doing pretty well so far. His defense is getting a little better, but he's helping out a lot. And I see that Shea is doing the same for Montreal. Again, both teams benefited.
I think the Habs and Preds trade works out for both. Subban is a dynamic offensive defensman and 27 years old. Weber is all around better and 31 years old.
Contract prospective Nashville because they drop a contract that will have Weber playing to or even through 40 while Subban may not hit 35 (don't know details of contracts)
I'm a habs fan and I am happy with this trade. Weber is way better then Subban and our leadership is better now. I like Subban but sometimes he do fkg spinorama at the blue line.
Johnny you need to look at it like this. Shero was one of those who built the current penguins team, he knows what he's doing and he's going to build around hall and hall will find success right away. And the Devils in the next five years will be in the cup
As a Montreal fan who lives in Montreal I am so sad to see Subban leave... Don't get me wrong Weber is amazing But Subban made watching the games very interesting. And we just lost 4 years... Subban is 27 and Weber is 31 in August... Looks like I am a Nashville fan now
Hall will stay in NJ. He said pretty much the same thing as Subban, that he's going to a team that wants him and he's motivated. Plus, he's friends with Henrique. I don't see him going anywhere.
Montreal saw what happened when Price went down with an injury. The speediness of their team wasn't good enough to play solid, defensive play for when the goalie is gone. Adding Shaw and Weber while removing PK and Eller gives the team more physical force, and allows the team to be much more helpful and take less stress off of Carey Price. Price is the best goalie in the league, but every goalie still needs a team in front of them to help.
It's like a kid was playing gm mode on easy trade difficulty with the oiler trade like wtf
I just tried the trade on easy... Didn't even go through. GOOD JOB CHIARELLI
+Hank Hill lmao
I actually acquired Taylor Hall on my GM mode (Detroit) for Nyquist.
+Hank Hill lol
This trade was to get the defenceman and free up a little bit of more cap space to really make the push for Milan Lucic
Weber has 1 more point than PK since 2010 and PK still has the best years ahead of him.
Nashville won the trade.
Points aren't everything. I didn't know a team needed a "defenceman" to put up points, pretty sure that's what the forwards are for. Plus, leadership is a nice bonus, I'm a Habs fan, and with an "in the moment" mindset, I think we won.
Have you seen Subban's breakout and team play? its horrible, and Weber is 100 times better deffencivly than Subban
Subban doesnt play defense. Weber is a Defensive Defesemen yet he put up the same points as Subban. MONTREAL WINS
+Adam Davison I completely agree with you, Defence is a type of player to play a physical, more behind the play than offence, Eric Karlson is basically a forward, or back in the old days, a rover (6th position placed between the two defensemen).
Well I agree Nashville won, they don't win this year or maybe even next. It will be in the years following. Yes PK will probably put up more points bit Weber is much better defensively and still gets points as well. MTL won for this upcoming and maybe the season after. But then Nashville will have the better end of the deal.
The fact you just sat there and said that New Jersey lost this trade smh
He said that for the future Edmonton won and for now New Jersey won
And then he went on to say that he wont resign so win anything with New Jersey, news flash New Jersey has been getting better each year so in the next 4 years it's a possibility we go far in the playoffs (not saying we take it all) but for him to sit there and say what New Jersey will and will not do pisses me off sorry
New Jersey is not going to win any time soon, Edmonton will. Edmonton could have done better, but they are better off after this trade.
+Monkey Weather yea dude Edmonton, Buffalo, Calgary and toronto are the only rebuilding teams that actually have a future. Toronto has nylander, Marner, and Matthews. Edmonton has all of their first overall picks. Buffalo has reinhart, eichel and Kane. And Calgary has gaudreau, Bennett, Monahan. All of these rebuilding teams have a bunch of prospects/rookies. New Jersey doesn't really have that many
+Hockey_ _402 Devils really have been building their farm the last yr and a half under Shero. Lou Lam never signed NCAA specs, but since Shero has taken over we have signed quite a few. Devils farm was bottom 5 a few yrs ago but I would say its about middle of the pack, and we also have a bunch of 2nds and 3rds the next 2 yrs. Hall speeds the rebuild up immediately. Zacha who was our top 6 pick last yr should get a big role this yr if he can produce. Same with Quenville and Santini. I hope they pan out
Next is Crosby for Toews im calling it you heard it here first
OH HELL NAW
nah
Pittsburgh isn't that stupid
+Inappropriate Comments wouldn't be shocked
+Sports Fan Yea. I'm sure you wouldn't be. No one would be
I couldn't even open my Twitter all day yesterday cause everyone I follow just went buttfuck crazy.
Hey hank
Hank !!! whats up
The propane biz is not going very well
+Hank Hill You should make a sponsor deal with Minnesota Wild and of coursce Hershey Bears
Future for Canada so bright. Then Edmonton and Montreal just messed it all up.
Toronto and Winnipeg still have the best prospect pools in the league
@Toronto sure helps when u finish last every fucking single seasons
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TOP 10 last 150 years LUL
well if they sign a good forward and some 2way dman the habs will be saved.
“For the long term the Edmonton Oilers won” yeah, that aged really well
And just when I thought a Canadian team might actually win a Stanley Cup...
...well there's still the Leafs.
Same tho
Ha, the Canadiens still have a 10x better chance to win than the leafs
unless price gets injured and you only win 21 games after being 17-4-2
I can also see the Jets and Flames making a good run at it too.
Jets
What EDM had to pay for a defenseman like Larsson really makes the Canucks GM look like a genius getting a 6'5" stud Erik Gudbranson for a 185 pound less than 10 goal-scorer Jared Mcann. Hall had 65 pts last season.
Yeah but Larsson is much better than Gudbranson
Lol Gudbranson is a top 6 dman, Larsson has top 2 potential and at worse is a great top 4.
***** Top 4, top 6, either way Taylor Hall is a damn high price to pay.
Benning is the worst GM in the league.
Eberle for Larsson would have been a much more balanced trade. Either that or Hall for someone else like Shattenkirk or Faulk.
everyone be shitting on the devils jeezus, 2 thirty goal scorers in Henrique and Palmeiri, an elite goaltender in Cory Schneider and now Taylor Hall? Taylor Hall will lead the Devils to the playoffs, simply put. If Cammalleri and Schneider stayed healthy for the whole season they would've made the playoffs last season. Taylor is good friends with Henrique, and said he's looking forward to a change of scenery, Hall will be the guy in New Jersey, the fans will cherish him and the franchise will build around him. Not sure why Johnny thinks he's going to leave, he's going to experience success right off the bat and could easily make the playoffs in his first season as a devil. My prediction is his play skyrockets over the next few seasons, and Shero builds around him. The devils wouldn't have gone after him if they thought they would just lose him in free agency 4 years later.
Thank you the Devils are really not bad at all
Johnny why do you think the the Devils suck they would have made the playoffs if it weren't for injuries
Great points. Devils were on the verge last year but the injury bug screwed us over. Hall is a fantastic acquisition and we finally have a decent top 6. If we can acquire one more defenseman thru FA and sign Schlemko, I truly believe this team can make the playoffs.
Skillocity well we signed that french defensman Yohann Auvitu so maybe he could be something
People are insane. Im a devils fan but i dont see them making the playoffs. our defence is very shitty now. All of our defence are either 2nd or 3rd pairing guys. Our best prospect is damon severson who is kind of a defensive liability. Andy greene is a top 4 defender playing top 2 minutes. santini is most likely gonna play on the 3rd pairing as a rookie. jon merrill's development kinda stalled so maybe he can start developing again. if anything, maybe we can trade with carolina for one of the shit load of defensive prospects. they might want a goalie so maybe wedgewood, blackwood or appleby are trading chips. As for offense we dont have that elite playmaking centre who can dish the puck to palmieri, hall, camellari and boucher. henrique scored more goals than assists last year, pavel zacha is more of a goalscorer than a playmaker and people expect him to play left wing next year and zajac isnt good. He is a third line center making second line money. He hasnt had 50 points since 2009-10 when we had parise and kovalchuk.
edmonton got absolutely butt fucked in this trade. Hall is ranked 3rd in points/60 Mins over the last 3 seasons only behind benn and Crosby. Oilers will be rebuilding until mcdavid has 6 years in the league and he gets traded
a winger doesn't make the team better like a defender does
+Chris P. Bacon hahah they traded a guy who led the team in points pretty much since he's gotten there for an unproven 23 yr old defense who nobody knows. so he's not gonna make the oilers better sorry to tell yah
Not to mention last year was the only full season he played for the Devils. so again I'll stick by what I said and that is the oilers got bent over and fucked in the ass raw .. yes raw no lub
Well some can like Kane sequin players like those but I agree with the fact about the defensemen but trading a top winger who has proved themselves for a defenceman who was supposed to be good and hasn't proven anything is not a good trade. Plus if it was like a nuge or a yakapov for Larson it would be worth because ur getting rid of a player who doesn't want to be there or a centre that isn't too good and is getting over shadowed by McDavid and draisaitl but instead they got rid of a lw which they don't have a really good one other then hall.
+Jon Dan agree 100% 🖒
Montreal got the better end of the deal. Adding Weber makes them a physically scary team. Shaw, Gallagher, Weber, Emelin. That's a tough, mean core. Weber is 6'4" 240lb beast that claps 110mph slapshots all day. Weber is more consistent and a far better leader. That's who Montreal wants, an old fashioned, tough mofo that just does his job. Not a guy that does unnecessary dekes and dives like michael phelps. I also feel that Weber has a better offensive upside aswell. Think about it, would Subban be considered as good as he is if he wasn't constantly in the media? I don't think so.
Agreed 100%
You tha man
Montreal isn't a scary team at all, Weber couldn't keep up with the Sharks and they're not even a fast team. Wait until he goes up against the fast skating east without Josi to bail him out.
I agree, but Subban has been great to the community, I don't think it necessarily adds trade value, but I think it makes it harder for him to leave.
I agree but Phelps isn't a diver he's a swimmer 😂😂 subban dives like Greg lougainais
Hall>Larson
Subban>Weber
Simpleton
I feel as if Webber might play a little better Canadiens need a power house
Ok😔
hardest shot in the NHL
+Def Albino second hardest shot in the NHL chara has the hardest
You know what I just realized, that all of the top 5 picks in the 2010 entry draft are not with the team that drafted them
1. Taylor Hall drafted by Edmonton, now in New Jersey (2016)
2. Tyler Seguin drafted by Boston, now in Dallas (2013)
3. Erik Gudbranson drafted by Florida, now in Vancouver (2016)
4. Ryan Johansen drafted by Columbus, now in Nashville (2016)
5. Nino Niderider drafted by Islanders now in Minnesota (2013)
And lol watch malkin get traded to BlackHawks for fucking Seabrook
Ovechkin for Bonino
Lmao pls
Imo, Malkin is very overrated. I personally think that if that happened the Penguins would benefit.
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it will never happen. Rutherford said Malkin and Crosby were Penguins for life
4 years later... Habs won this trade by far. I was so mad seeing Subban go but Weber is still as good as before while Subban decreased a LOT. I wonder if Weber stayed in Nashville they might had a cup...
I agree when Johnny said that Hall is gonna want to win a cup or play with a contending team but to me as a devils fan, we are there. We were one top line player away from making it to the playoffs and we missed it this year because Corey hurt himself and so did Elias. But if they stay healthy and now with an amazing left winger that hall is, I think we get the playoffs this year and after that, as all of us hockey fans know, playoff hockey is an animal that no one can predict. So we will have to wait for that. I also believe that hall is now bait for some free agents that the Devils can go after. Maybe now we go after a top defensemen or maybe a nice second liner to play with Patrick if he stays. It's a very interesting free agency year and I can't wait until July 1st. Happy to be a devils fan rn
Geroges Lararaque who now works in a sports radio station as a journalist said that he spoke privately to a couple of Habs players and that they just couldn't stand Subban because of his attitude and the terrible season just made it worse. Laraque totally called the trade like 3-4 months ago he said that there was no chance that Subban would still be a Montreal Canadien after July 1st because of what he heard about what was happening in the locker room. This is the main reason of the trade.
But PK was donating like 5 mil or more to a hospital in the area
it was like 10 mil to a children's hospital
William Howell was it maybe 5 mil over next five years?
+Ben Oaks Rulz Subban is donating 10 million dollars throughout 7 years to the Montreal Children's Hospital.
Hey John! Man I couldn't believe it when I heard it. Subban gone from the Canadiens. As a fan of them and Subban it hurts. But I'd like to thank you for shedding some light onto it for me. & I think everyone is as flustered as you are man! Thanks for the great videos & keep it up.
Taylor Hall and picks to STL for Kevin Shattenkirk
Shattenkirk is a UFA after this year.
Never
Halls not going to the west
Fuck no Shattenkirk ain't worth all that
+Becker he said nothing about resigning in Edmonton lol
Love it!! You killed it!! I can't agree more on both of your opinions on these trades
Maybe if it was hall for faulk then it'd be a little be better but it was an awful trade
+TheJIVINGTURKEY how would that be logical? The canes have enough snipers/wingers and the need a goalie and some centres not wingers
Hall gets you no where close to Faulk, sorry man
Everyone incredibly underestimates the Devils. They were in the playoff race this year until two top five players in Camalleri and Schneider got injured. The Devils already have two 30 goal scorers and Zajac is a great playmaker and adding Hall makes a top line of Hall-Henrique-Palmieri/Camalleri which is amazing. With kids like Zacha, Quennville, and Boucher also getting a chance at a full season all the Devils needed is a star like Hall to light their spark. And if they sign someone like Okposo or Nielson then they will be serious contenders.
The Devils aren't exactly in total rebuild because they have a young defensive core that is waiting to break out after two more years (most likely). The entire offensive structure does need work because the main focus has always been on defense and when DeBoer tried to switch the long standing system that Lamoriello built, it failed after one year and he kept going with it. So the process of fitting in a good offense into the solid back line will always be hard, and depending on only two lines is hard. The offensive prospects are improving since Shero has come in, but most of the young guys that they have in the system are people that the team is trying to find some potential. So Hall really should try to for the long haul because he should see that this new revitalized franchise are moving on from old foundations and will burst onto the scene as potential contenders in four years.
No we don't have a young defensive core waiting to break out. We have 2 guys and there's a decent neither end up being top pairing guys
+Skylightt well you guys have a good goalie
Plus we have Zacha who looks like he's NHL ready and Boucher who is probably going to have a breakout season this year.
It's actually quite refreshing hearing someone who actually knows hockey talking about these trades like some people are so stubborn and blinded by their stubbornness i totally agreed through out this video
I actually prefer Weber over Subban at the moment, just because he's a lot more defensive.
Yeah...Subban just moves the puck so good he makes goal spots. Weber is more defensive and will help the Habs a lot next couple years
+Patches 67s I don't think so. MTL has some serious back checking problems from their forwards causing even more stress for the Dmen with the good forwards who will back check in NSH as well as other talented Dmen who have been allowing Shea Webber more of a break I don't see why Subban couldn't win the Norris. Subban just went to a better overall team with Better Dmen and Shea Webber went to a team with forwards who don't back check and a Dcore that is much worse. Before they even play a game Subban is in a better position to succeed.
IronMan50780 I actually agree but I hate Bergevin and Therrien! fuck them
Thomas O'Brien idk....dammit
+Thomas O'Brien Pacioretty,
love you're outlook on the oilers trade. haven't seen any non oilers fans think we won. refreshing to see you agree
As a devils fan myself. I've seen their offense before, it's terrible. Taylor Hall is the stud winger that I wanted. Travis Zajac had a 28 assist season. He can feed the puck to Hall and produce 40 assists next year. Hall can get 35 goals next year. He can also produce 40 assists. He had 36 assists this past year. He is great in both departments. We also have Henrique and Palmieri, both 30 goal scorers and both had 50 points. Put that with Hall, a 30 goal scorer and 60 point scorer. You have got a devastating offense. Johny, mention this comment in the next shootout commentary and talk about it a little bit.
lolwut? Why would Hall play with Zajac? Him and Henrique were dynamite in junior and Palmieri turned Zajac into a 2nd liner again
Devastating my ass man.
devestating chance for another top 10 pick. devils suck balls
WMWanimations lololol We weren't top 10 last year and are better this year
12th overall still shiet and also yeah the devils offense does look better but as a team, they are still bottom dwellers. I still think they suck nutsacks
who gets the C for the preds? pk?
RIP Andrew shaw my fav player
Hey 2bc this is off topic of the video but how do you feel the leafs acquiring Eric Staal during free agency? Solid veteran forward that can mentor the rookies coming in?
Weber / Subban trade to me is completely insane and I never seen it coming. I understand why both teams made it but my question is why Nashville? You just traded the best Dman in the league. Best... I mean you traded a total stud who was the backbone of your team. Weber is an amazing player and leader. I know Subban is good but i love how Weber carries himself on the ice. He is that sure lock down defensive presence. I'm a Hawks fan and I know that Nashville was that team who gave us fits in the post-season and that was entirely up to that Nashville "defense". Weber will be a stud til the day he retires but I thought that was gonna be in Nashville.
Weber wasn't looking so good in Game 7 against the Sharks...
TTH247 Yea i can agree with that. If I was a forward in the NHL i would rather go up against Subban any day of the week over Weber lol. Its an insane trade that I never seen coming. I think both teams got what they needed though. I've always liked Subban so as an NHL fan I'm definitely excited to see what he can truly do. As a Hawks fan though i dread it lol.
Weber is on a bad contract, however good he is. (Weber imo is the best D-man, not a hater, in fact I dislike Subban a lot.)
Need Reviving I can agree with you. Weber is on 10 years but I think he will be solid until he retires. His fundamentals and knowledge of the game with carry his talent til the day he retires. His leadership and true lock down defensive play is exactly what the Habs need. I will not be surprised if the Habs give him the C or an Alternate right away.(Subban) No denying his talent but his attitude is a bit ridiculous at times. He will be fine playing beside Josi. Weber rubbed off on Josi and look what a player he became.
I am preds fan. David Poile said that Subban just fits better into Laviolette's fast and modern gamestyle than Weber.
Interesting takes on each trade. Also add in that Weber doesn't have to be "the man" as captain, although he is going to a harsher hockey market, but he should fit well. Watching this video made me change me perceptions a bit on the trades.
Wow, last time I was this early, the leafs won the cup
last time i came this early your sister smacked me
+SirChipper Omg burn
BRAVO JOHNNY!!!!! From a die hard habs fan I say I agree with you completely
as a habs fan we won 100%
THat NhL GuY compare weber and subban in the playoffs LoL
LuL
Lol big L
Will you do a shootout commentary on the canadiens signing Alex Radulov ?
I was surprised that Montreal Subban and that Nashville traded Weber
A much needed defensive defenseman was brought into Montreal. I am happy with it.
+Frosty Blizzard Gaming nah.. They needed a top 6 sniper
+Migzyy Oh we still need one. At the same time though, The Habs got a much needed defensive defenseman. Free Agent Frenzy starts tomorrow, a gem may be found.
+Frosty Blizzard Gaming yea, true
+MadMatrix Ladd is an excellent option. He's big as well!
Coming from a Devils fan: The reason why our trade was pulled off was because we need a young scorer that a team is willing to give up for a need of that team. Edmonton needs defense. We were willing to give away our young defender for a young scorer. Edmonton does not need anymore scores on their team, they're loaded with scorers. But in their book, scoring does not win games, in our book, defense wins games. We have plenty of young defenders down in the AHL that can get the call up anytime. We just need scorers. Adding Taylor Hall to our roster, he will most likely play with Henrique and Cammalleri. Henrique had a total of 50 points (30G 20A). With the time Cammalleri got he had a total of 38 points (14G 24A). Adding Hall to our lineup, you can easily see both Henrique's and Cammalleri's totals increasing each year. Just with Hall alone, we can be seen as a better team because we finally have that top scorer that we need. We could easily be 4-5 points out of the playoffs next season
I don't see how Cammy's totals will become better considering he will be on the 2nd line next year. Don't get me wrong, he's still going to be good.
Weber is a top 4 D man on team Canada. Subban didn't even make the team...
So What Kessel didn't make Team USA and Justin Abdelkader did does that make Abdelkader better hell no. Preds won the deal easily.
+David McCalla 9 mil for a D man that doesn't deserve anything over 6 mil is a clear L
+David McCalla yeah but this is team Canada. USA hockey is a joke run by clowns. Making team Canada is really hard and is chosen by Yzerman n Babcock
+tough Yea pretty much. Subban should be on Team Canada everybody knows that, he is in top 5 defenceman in the league he got snubbed period.
+David McCalla no he can't defend for shit. Doughty, Weber and Peitrangelo are all better than him
Very nice analysis!
I'm from Montreal, so yeah the P.K. trade was a shock.
I honestly cannot believe Marc Bergevin did this... trading your best player... this team is terrible now. we good but of course our dumb GM doesn't have a brain
Welcome to the Boston Bruins fan club
You're acting like they just gave away Subban. You do realize Weber is just as good if not better right? At least Weber doesn't yell at his teammates and toe pick himself every second like Subban.
+TheJIVINGTURKEY price is the best on the habs. he's our MVP, subban is probably our second best player.
+G-Dog 9000 your kitting right? I know subban is just as good as weber but 1st of all there's no reason to trade him. were a playoff team and the fact that he took a high risk like that makes no sense second subban is in my opinion younger and he's eventually will be better then weber. By doing this trade the habs only have like 2-3 years to win the cup or else they won't win in 10+ years. this trade isn't that bad but it's very unecessary. sorry if I sound rude but I'm not happy lol #Firebergervin
+David Kra wait until he trades Carey Price and Galchenyuk
When starts Free Agents here in sweden? Need to check that out
who's gonna be captain for Nashville though?
Mike Fisher i think
probs going to run with 3 ALTS next yr
+Cody Cardinal There are many options for the Preds
james neal would make a nice captain
+Cain Adam my reasoning though is cause Fisher is a veteran presence, good community guy and he's been an A with the sens and Preds for quite awhile
as a preds fan, you pretty much nailed it
will you do a Steven Stamkos shootout commentary
That "going to a team that wants me" quote was from Taylor Hall.
Still agree with your initial comments? Taylor Hart?
Well don't forget the Devils had a good year, we have Adam Henrique and Kyle Palmieri who both scored 30 goals, then we just got Beau Bennett, the Devils are very close to getting back to the playoffs, and this year was their best season ever since 2012 when they made it to the finals
The Crosby Penalty at 2:45 was absolutely brilliant!
john, just mentioning a point you forgot to add, if Weber retires before he is 40 (aka when his current contract is up) nashville has to pay him, not mtl. may have factored into the trade.
For the next few years, maybe 4 or so, the Habs won this deal. I'm a Habs fan and have been for the past 30 years and PK is a defensive liability. Their numbers the past 4 years are almost identical but most people are forgetting one very important factor. Look at the differences in the divisions that each team plays in. You play the most games against teams in your divison and no one can deny that the central is the most potent in all of the NHL. Weber has played great defensive and offensive hockey in the central, not to mention very tough minutes against the leagues best scorers. PK is gonna be lit up game after game and Weber is going to be an absolute BEAST in the Atlantic. Habs win the trade, that is all.
Can PK shoot it through the net?
probably
Taylor hall reminds me a lot of Zach Parise. Remember how well he played in the NJ system? Taylor hall is gonna light it up in NJ. fax
There was rumor of a Subban and Hall trade (with others from EDM) that Edmonton turned down
what about the lucic in edmonton? alot of people think he will sign with edmonton.
Hall Nico Bratt. All give him the puck. Scores 48 points before allstar break. Edm in the basement Larsson injured not producing offensivly or Defensivly. Its safe to say we WOOOOOOOON this deal
Are you going to make a video review NHL 16?
Omg I'm in love with your point of view Johnny!
Is PK going to be captain or did they not announce that yet?
Hall said. "I'm disappointed that I'm not going to be able to see that through, but I'm excited that I'm going to play for a team that wants me.
"It's not that Edmonton didn't want me, but I certainly do feel a bit slighted by the whole thing." Also hall played juniors on the spitfires with henrique and there good buds. they combined 464 in three seasons in the O. and they go back farther then that to my knowledge.
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The Oilers had to make cap space. They have their pick from this year to play RW with McDavid and if they get Lucic he can play LW, then they can sign another defenseman which is probably going to be Demers. It's a smart trade imo, this coming from a Canucks fan.
Love these vids, more shootout commentaries please!
Hall has played with Henrique before. I imagine Hall will like the change of scenery because Schneider is a top 5 goalie in the league, Devils have a very deep defensive core and Hall will help put that puck in the net. Also, who knows who the Devils will sign in Free Agency. On the other hand, Oilers got a much needed top 2 defense but they easily could have tried to get more. Hall is a proven 1st line forward and being re-united with Henrique may be a nice fit for him.
Hey coudnt have got a better defenseman for Hall
Ryan Suter, Jason Pominville, 2017 2nd round pick for Erik Karlsson and Mika Zibanejad. I would be so happy! :)
As much as I don't like the Hall trade, it ultimately helps out the Oilers in three ways.
1. It gives Edmonton an RHD which is something they desperately need.
2. It gives Edmonton roughly $13.3M in cap space to sign both Milan Lucic and Jason Demers
3. Frees up cap space so that Edmonton can resign Draisitl, McDavid, Nurse and Puljujarvi once their ELC expires
As a Predators fan, I am upset Weber left, but we got Subban and I am very happy and excited to see him in a Predators sweater. I feel our chances are even brighter to win a cup now with the younger more offensive Subban. With the young core we have and now add him, I like our chances in the next few years to win that cup.
Adam Henrique and Taylor Hall won the memorial cup together and honestly I think Hall plays out the rest of his career in NJ
Agreed. Doesn't seem like Johnny did his homework
This aged well
@@mikedocemrick9497 Indeed it hasn't
you should do a shootout marathon on the big free agents like David Backes to boston, Loui Erikson to Vancouver, lucic to Edmonton, etc
Let them doubt New Jersey. Top 10 special teams, top 5 defensive team, top 3 goalie. Only thing missing was an offense and we just went out and got Taylor Hall.
Taylor Hall said what pk said to. "I'm happy to go to a team that wants me"
I read somewhere that if Weber retires before the end of his contract than Nashville gets the cap hit can anyone confirm this?
You greatly underestimate the devils. they have a great coach and a team that plays competitive hockey every night and they have cory schneider
The Weber trade is an upgrade on the ice, but a kick to the nuts in the stands. I was able to attend the 2003 draft in person, watched Weber walk across the stage, and watched him develope his whole career. Weber was the face of our franchise for 6 years, was with us through the rough times while remaining very professional the whole time, and I wish nothing but the best for him in Montreal. However, since PK is a much better skater, the speed between Josi and PK will be incredible because lets not forget Josi was less than .5 seconds slower than Larkin and was 2nd overall in the fastest skater. PK helps make that 1st pairing more dynamic as Weber is slower after his knee injury during the 2015 playoffs, but still a very serviceable defender and very good defender. The lack of speed and lack of pocession from Weber was made apparent during the 2nd round against San Jose as he always looked to pass to Josi as he should, and once they took away that pass, then more turnovers began to happen. PK fits Lavy's more uptempo style of play and since we also have Ellis and Ekholm under contract for another 4 years so our d core is still the best in the league. Again hate to lose Weber because of all he has done for Nashville and wish him nothing but success, but at the same time, I'm very excited to add PK to the team.
The 2016-2017 NHL hockey season is going to be very different, holy shit are we ALL in got a ride…
didn't Edmonton get a first rounder as well?
no it was hall for larsson straight up
Any predictions who will become captain of Edmonton (I thought Hall was going to become captain but, yeah)
Also if McDavid becomes captain I'm going to be so pissed XD
No pk highlights during regular seasons now it's all we miss you pk and pk career highlights
Well said Johnny about the subban trade. EXACTLY what I thought
In my honest opinion I believe the trade evens out, because Montreal adds an older, more experienced player that can help them win now, as well as make more room for cap the next 10 years, however Nashville got a younger player that is still growing, and can not only help out the young team that Nashville has now, but will be able to help them out in the long run as well since he is 4 years younger than Weber. If I had to choose one team to win the trade it would be Nashville because they have so many young, talented players already and bigger name players to help out P.K on the blue line, while Montreal doesn't have any huge name players to help out Weber on the blue line
PK Subban had attitude issues. Wasn't on time to meetings, practice. Focusing more on being PK76 than being PK Subban from the Canadiens. I loved him to death, but the trade had reason behind it. Many teammates were NOT friends with PK and did not appreciate his charisma. Teammates didn't even attend his $10,000,000 contribution ceremony. Not one!! All this information came out this morning on TSN 690. I'm shaken up by this trade, but I KINDA see the reason behind it. I'm happy that we got a beast in Shea Weber who has a good 3-4 years left of solid defending. But in the long run, if we look at this hockey trade...Nashville wins.
This season, PK said and I quote "Drew Doughty is winning the Norris trophy. Look who he plays with and look who I play with". Again, all this came from TSN 690 this morning. Tony Marinaro has great relationships with the MTL Canadiens. He's not BS'ing.
Agreed people think that since Weber is almost 31 year olds he cant play anymore hockey. Last time i checked Jagr was still playing and Chara is 39. and Hossa contract is even worse than Weber. Subban is really good off but hes mediocre in def like Karlsson. they are risky defs. Montreal is a team that focus on def plays with Price in the net. Subban making multiple dumb mistakes last season once again did cost atleast 3-4 games aka 6-8 points atleast. Ofc subban will be better in 5 years but still. subban will be 33 and Weber 38. People are dumb
Subban is doing pretty well so far. His defense is getting a little better, but he's helping out a lot. And I see that Shea is doing the same for Montreal. Again, both teams benefited.
Living in Nashville, I love this trade. Great move.
I think the Habs and Preds trade works out for both. Subban is a dynamic offensive defensman and 27 years old. Weber is all around better and 31 years old.
Contract prospective Nashville because they drop a contract that will have Weber playing to or even through 40 while Subban may not hit 35 (don't know details of contracts)
I'm a Blackhawk fan and I'm going to love seeing P.K go up against the Hawks
I'm a habs fan and I am happy with this trade. Weber is way better then Subban and our leadership is better now. I like Subban but sometimes he do fkg spinorama at the blue line.
Johnny you need to look at it like this. Shero was one of those who built the current penguins team, he knows what he's doing and he's going to build around hall and hall will find success right away. And the Devils in the next five years will be in the cup
Nhl 17 without Price and Subban celebration 79.99 Please!
can you do another wwe zod or superbman thing like a return
As a Montreal fan who lives in Montreal I am so sad to see Subban leave... Don't get me wrong Weber is amazing But Subban made watching the games very interesting. And we just lost 4 years... Subban is 27 and Weber is 31 in August... Looks like I am a Nashville fan now
What's next from the Habs? Carey Price going to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for Corey Crawford?
Johnny you fail to realize that New Jersey is only a year or two from a playoff run
What about eberle?
What's next Doughty for Chara?
Hall will stay in NJ. He said pretty much the same thing as Subban, that he's going to a team that wants him and he's motivated. Plus, he's friends with Henrique. I don't see him going anywhere.
Montreal saw what happened when Price went down with an injury. The speediness of their team wasn't good enough to play solid, defensive play for when the goalie is gone. Adding Shaw and Weber while removing PK and Eller gives the team more physical force, and allows the team to be much more helpful and take less stress off of Carey Price. Price is the best goalie in the league, but every goalie still needs a team in front of them to help.