when you were taking the springs off and that one bit you , i know how that felt, happened to me on the 850 . they whack you good . your mods made this trap a tank . love how you can set the pan tension on it now .
I love working on my traps! Question: Do you trust that stock baseplate attachment? I think I would swaped that out and welded it on or use the existing bolts. Your mods to that trap were OUTSTANDING!!!
Nice video Paul. It was interesting and fun to watch a Pro go to town and make it a wolf trap. Amazing they just don't build them right from the start. Oh well now you know it will hold up. 👍
Wow what A modification , nice work Paul ,, I think your video gives people a slight idea of just how powerful those wolves are … Pretty sure unless you trap them , the comprehension of the wolf is pretty vast …Thanks For Sharing
Awesome stuff brother, now you’ve got a super wolf trap for less than half of what they sell wolf traps for, and anybody that bitches about your welding ain’t got enough to do, I weld with the crow shit method, it holds together just fine 🤣! Thanks for taking us along for the ride 👍👍
If your Duke 850’s are like mine, you might want to separate the baseplate and weld the split in the D-ring. Duke used heavy chain and hell for stout swivels but kinda went cheap on the D-rings in my opinion. Being less expensive compared to other traps, I don’t mind cutting them up and making them into something better. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom once again.
Maybe not tested but there has been plenty of Idaho wolves caught and held no problems in the Duke 850s already. I have had great feedback from customers that have bought them from me . Tight chains 👍🐺🐺🐺✌️
Jack Whitman also suggested welding that base plate seam. He said "Not because a wolf would break it, but because it's a spot to trap odors." He doesn't wax his traps though, I would think that wax would fill that crack and seal it pretty well.
@@MuskratOutdoors I wouldn't weld the entire base plate both sides just to control scent issues. Maybe spot weld for added insurance isn't a bad idea even though it really isn't necessary. Wax will definitely seal that seam up.👍🐺
@@beeman9500 That was my thought also. You can't control scent 100% anyway. Wax should fill that gap. On the other hand, I listen to Jack's opinion. He is one of the top wolf trappers in the World and knows what he is talking about.
@@MuskratOutdoors I had thoughts of sealing that gap in base plate with construction adhesive and let it air out for 6 months then dye and wax. I know some will say im crazy for suggesting that but my experience with pl-200 is it gets concrete hard and becomes ordorless in time 😉👍🐺🐺🐺🐺
Awesome Paul. Definitely tell the experience level difference between your mods and mine. Hope you haven't copyrighted that🤣🤣🤣 I do like your vision way more than mine👍👍
I remember that conversation we had about them well. Those drags are just a copy of an old USDA drag. I’m not playing on making any but when someone like Scott asks how can you say no🤷🏻♂️
A friend of mine stopped by and showed me one of those. His had nylock nuts on the end of the spring rods. I noticed yours out of the box, didn't. People must have complained enough that they are adding them now? He also drilled the pan and added a tension screw. He didn't cut his pan down, but said he didn't like it that big either. I have never understood why people want a big pan. Toe catches or misses will be certain. Small is much better! I've seen Russian traps that don't have a pan at all, just a piece if wire.
If there is nylock nuts on end of spring pins it's because someone already added them as all 850s come stock exactly like Paul's from the Duke Warehouse.
@@beeman9500 That's what I thought too. I asked him if he added those and he said "No it came that way." He said it was a new trap, I assumed he bought it mail order from a trap supply company. I'll ask him more about it. He might have bought it from someone, but it didn't sound like it?
I know of another Duke Dealer in Idaho that puts those nuts on end of spring bar and sells them as a modified trap so that's probably where it came from ?
Them pans are very easy to bend around by hand they about need some reinforcement on the bottom cause they are very easy to tweak out of wack. What do you think of the offset do you think a coyote could pull out of it?I got 4 of them thought they would work ok for deep snow coyote .I did take off one set of springs might put some thing a little smaller on there just to help speed email up a bit.
even for beaver , i will be cutting the pans down a little . thanks for the idea .
"NO B/S DUKE Modification" !! Love it. You made it a tank. Enjoyed watching. I really like how you do stuff.👍🏻
when you were taking the springs off and that one bit you , i know how that felt, happened to me on the 850 . they whack you good . your mods made this trap a tank . love how you can set the pan tension on it now .
Always fun taking something straight out of the box and cutting it up to make it better 😎👍
Nothing like making something custom with some tools and knowledge, neat video dude
I love working on my traps! Question: Do you trust that stock baseplate attachment? I think I would swaped that out and welded it on or use the existing bolts.
Your mods to that trap were OUTSTANDING!!!
Nice video Paul. It was interesting and fun to watch a Pro go to town and make it a wolf trap. Amazing they just don't build them right from the start. Oh well now you know it will hold up. 👍
Great job brother! I love modifying traps and really appreciate how you did the pan tension!
Wow what A modification , nice work Paul ,, I think your video gives people a slight idea of just how powerful those wolves are … Pretty sure unless you trap them , the comprehension of the wolf is pretty vast …Thanks For Sharing
Awesome stuff brother, now you’ve got a super wolf trap for less than half of what they sell wolf traps for, and anybody that bitches about your welding ain’t got enough to do, I weld with the crow shit method, it holds together just fine 🤣! Thanks for taking us along for the ride 👍👍
If your Duke 850’s are like mine, you might want to separate the baseplate and weld the split in the D-ring. Duke used heavy chain and hell for stout swivels but kinda went cheap on the D-rings in my opinion. Being less expensive compared to other traps, I don’t mind cutting them up and making them into something better. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom once again.
Maybe not tested but there has been plenty of Idaho wolves caught and held no problems in the Duke 850s already. I have had great feedback from customers that have bought them from me . Tight chains 👍🐺🐺🐺✌️
Jack Whitman also suggested welding that base plate seam. He said "Not because a wolf would break it, but because it's a spot to trap odors." He doesn't wax his traps though, I would think that wax would fill that crack and seal it pretty well.
@@MuskratOutdoors I wouldn't weld the entire base plate both sides just to control scent issues. Maybe spot weld for added insurance isn't a bad idea even though it really isn't necessary. Wax will definitely seal that seam up.👍🐺
@@beeman9500 That was my thought also. You can't control scent 100% anyway. Wax should fill that gap. On the other hand, I listen to Jack's opinion. He is one of the top wolf trappers in the World and knows what he is talking about.
@@MuskratOutdoors I had thoughts of sealing that gap in base plate with construction adhesive and let it air out for 6 months then dye and wax. I know some will say im crazy for suggesting that but my experience with pl-200 is it gets concrete hard and becomes ordorless in time 😉👍🐺🐺🐺🐺
Awesome modification thats going to work on catching wolves thanks for sharing with us hopefully you catch alot of wolves this year brother 👍🤛🐺
Awesome Paul. Definitely tell the experience level difference between your mods and mine. Hope you haven't copyrighted that🤣🤣🤣 I do like your vision way more than mine👍👍
Antczak Traps coming soon??? 😂 Great video man. 👍
@@montanawolftrapper8666 😂
Interesting.
That weld looks like bird shit😝just kidding, great video
Damn good idea. A man should be proud of that one
I'm sure he is ☺️
I remember that conversation we had about them well.
Those drags are just a copy of an old USDA drag. I’m not playing on making any but when someone like Scott asks how can you say no🤷🏻♂️
I would think you would need a better trap that made in America.
I just have a couple of those
A friend of mine stopped by and showed me one of those. His had nylock nuts on the end of the spring rods. I noticed yours out of the box, didn't. People must have complained enough that they are adding them now?
He also drilled the pan and added a tension screw. He didn't cut his pan down, but said he didn't like it that big either. I have never understood why people want a big pan. Toe catches or misses will be certain. Small is much better! I've seen Russian traps that don't have a pan at all, just a piece if wire.
If there is nylock nuts on end of spring pins it's because someone already added them as all 850s come stock exactly like Paul's from the Duke Warehouse.
@@beeman9500 That's what I thought too. I asked him if he added those and he said "No it came that way." He said it was a new trap, I assumed he bought it mail order from a trap supply company. I'll ask him more about it. He might have bought it from someone, but it didn't sound like it?
I know of another Duke Dealer in Idaho that puts those nuts on end of spring bar and sells them as a modified trap so that's probably where it came from ?
@@beeman9500 That could be. We are in Idaho.
Thank You
Hell ya looks good.
U buy a wolf trap they should come ready to go u would think just my opinion though
Atleast mostly ready to go. I agree
Them pans are very easy to bend around by hand they about need some reinforcement on the bottom cause they are very easy to tweak out of wack. What do you think of the offset do you think a coyote could pull out of it?I got 4 of them thought they would work ok for deep snow coyote .I did take off one set of springs might put some thing a little smaller on there just to help speed email up a bit.
We do mods to all duke traps,not heavy enough.
Send this video to the manufacturer maybe they can make a better product
Had a HF welder and all welds looked like seagulls shit. Lol
@@montanawolftrapper8666 that's what I use. Works great for me👍👍
Looks like a good up grade, just not understanding cutting the pan down !!!
@@montanawolftrapper8666 👍
Makes sense
Hey Paul, I may have missed it in the video, but why the smaller pan for such a big footed animal?
Thanks Paul! I figured it had to do with foot position. Love the videos!!!
@@montanawolftrapper8666 absolutely
Making me hungry🤓
You grind that pipe flat on the bottom your pan will set a 1/16" lower