I completely agree with @1melkor you omit a lot of good things he does and belittle the ones that you do mention. Also he actually did fall in love with Ariadne and she was LOST when they were at Naxos. He then returned to his father and did not change the sails because of grief. He is a tragic figure NOT the shithead you make him out to be. That is what we are taught at school in Greece and that is how they present this character.
Also it's not like they teach us a more "gentle" version of the myth. Because on other occasions such as the "shower of gold" incident they very much told us that Zeus straight up raped a woman.
Thanks, your comments are welcome but I will continue to tell the stories how I wish to tell them. There are countless variations of ancient traditions when it comes to Theseus, the versions I use are also valid. You’re also commenting on an episode from 5 years ago, it isn’t representative of how the podcast is created now, so it’s simply irrelevant. These are being put out on TH-cam now, but these episodes come from 2017. If you’re interested in my more recent take on Theseus, you can listen to episodes 78, 80, 82, and 84 from 2020 on any podcast app.
I want to like this podcast. I really do. But it seems to me, that You are really biased towards the subject that You are researching. Six works of Theseus, that You in part belittled, and in part completelly skipped were actually pretty important to the people living in places, that he does those deeds. Men that he killed during those works were sons of gods, not Just normalna bandits, and had killed many people. The sow, called Phaia, was actually also a killer of many man and destroyer of crops. It seems to me that You were ommiting those deeds, because they would make Theseus look better. Dont get me wrong, he was a scumbag, but I think it's not reliable research, when it highlights only bad deeds of the researched hero. Sorry if I make any grammar mistakes. English isn't my first language
Also, You did't even mention another version his Amasonian bride myth. In Pausanias' a count the Amasonian queen Antiope, was the one who went with Theseus, of her own free will. Tgen, after birthing him Hippolythus, she was killed acvidentally by one of her Sister, when they, believibg that Antiope was kidnapped, atracked Athens to free her. I'm no telling that this version is more reall, or superior to the one that You used. I'm only saying, that it's not a good aproach to any subject, to show only version that are favourable to your thesis
Lastly, after Aradne was left by Theseus, she allegedly became a bride od Dionysus. Probably because of that there is a version of this myth that says, that the God of vine ordered Theseus to leave Ariadnę on the island. He did what he was asked, but he griefd over It so much, that he forgot to change his sails. Also, in this version, he married Fedra few years after, because she resembled Ariadnę. Again, not saying that it's the right version, but I think its Worth mentioning
I completely agree with @1melkor you omit a lot of good things he does and belittle the ones that you do mention. Also he actually did fall in love with Ariadne and she was LOST when they were at Naxos. He then returned to his father and did not change the sails because of grief. He is a tragic figure NOT the shithead you make him out to be. That is what we are taught at school in Greece and that is how they present this character.
Short comment just to Say that your doing a great job and i really liké listening to your podcasts
I completely agree with @1melkor you omit a lot of good things he does and belittle the ones that you do mention. Also he actually did fall in love with Ariadne and she was LOST when they were at Naxos. He then returned to his father and did not change the sails because of grief. He is a tragic figure NOT the shithead you make him out to be.
That is what we are taught at school in Greece and that is how they present this character.
Also it's not like they teach us a more "gentle" version of the myth. Because on other occasions such as the "shower of gold" incident they very much told us that Zeus straight up raped a woman.
P.S :
I apologize if I made any major mistakes while writing. As you can guess by what I wrote English is not my first language
Thanks, your comments are welcome but I will continue to tell the stories how I wish to tell them. There are countless variations of ancient traditions when it comes to Theseus, the versions I use are also valid. You’re also commenting on an episode from 5 years ago, it isn’t representative of how the podcast is created now, so it’s simply irrelevant. These are being put out on TH-cam now, but these episodes come from 2017. If you’re interested in my more recent take on Theseus, you can listen to episodes 78, 80, 82, and 84 from 2020 on any podcast app.
I want to like this podcast. I really do. But it seems to me, that You are really biased towards the subject that You are researching. Six works of Theseus, that You in part belittled, and in part completelly skipped were actually pretty important to the people living in places, that he does those deeds. Men that he killed during those works were sons of gods, not Just normalna bandits, and had killed many people. The sow, called Phaia, was actually also a killer of many man and destroyer of crops. It seems to me that You were ommiting those deeds, because they would make Theseus look better. Dont get me wrong, he was a scumbag, but I think it's not reliable research, when it highlights only bad deeds of the researched hero. Sorry if I make any grammar mistakes. English isn't my first language
Also, You did't even mention another version his Amasonian bride myth. In Pausanias' a count the Amasonian queen Antiope, was the one who went with Theseus, of her own free will. Tgen, after birthing him Hippolythus, she was killed acvidentally by one of her Sister, when they, believibg that Antiope was kidnapped, atracked Athens to free her. I'm no telling that this version is more reall, or superior to the one that You used. I'm only saying, that it's not a good aproach to any subject, to show only version that are favourable to your thesis
Lastly, after Aradne was left by Theseus, she allegedly became a bride od Dionysus. Probably because of that there is a version of this myth that says, that the God of vine ordered Theseus to leave Ariadnę on the island. He did what he was asked, but he griefd over It so much, that he forgot to change his sails. Also, in this version, he married Fedra few years after, because she resembled Ariadnę. Again, not saying that it's the right version, but I think its Worth mentioning
I completely agree with @1melkor you omit a lot of good things he does and belittle the ones that you do mention. Also he actually did fall in love with Ariadne and she was LOST when they were at Naxos. He then returned to his father and did not change the sails because of grief. He is a tragic figure NOT the shithead you make him out to be.
That is what we are taught at school in Greece and that is how they present this character.