KAREN GOES CRAZY OVER US FILMING!!! BTP EDUCATED - Birmingham New Street Train Station
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What is going on everybody, this is TGA, and in today's video, we're in Birmingham still, with @AY-Audits once again, we decide to go ahead and make a video inside Birmingham New Street railway station, which is operated by Network Rail, and Network Rail's photography guidelines say we don't require permission to film. Yet we still get staff telling us we're not allowed, and giving us grief, and one woman who thinks it's the law to get people's permission to film. British Transport Police were called as well, and at first they didn't know the photography guidelines, or properly understand the byelaws, but after a conversation with me and AY, they got educated, then went on to educate the rail staff from what they had learned, then we had a bit of banter with BTP, and shook their hands. Big respect to British Transport Police here, they learned something, and took it on board. Enjoy the video!
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Wow, Muneer is a legend! He was calm, professional, he de-escalated, was knowledgeable on the bylaws, he was informative, and had his ID on display and was fine to show it immediately to the camera on request, I'm blown away 👍👍👍😁😁😁
There’s some good ones
Muneer is my son. I am so proud of him ❤️
Amir is my nephew and he is not a terr0rist.
Good morning yes Muneer is my youngest. Thank you for your lovely comments. He is a good one, heart of gold too.
I work somewhat with Muneer!
(that’s his name )
And he’s one of the most helpful and kindest souls in the station.
He’s always professional and always goes out of his way to help anyone and anyone he comes across.
If you’re ever in new st and need help he’s the one you’ll want😊
Amir needs to be in charge of everyone else in that video he is a leader.
The woman who didn’t want you to film ran over to the BTP officer to try and influence him before Amir spoke to him. She was fuming that Amir overruled her.
Amir should be the team leader. That woman's attitude was dreadful.
Over emotional and ego driven
Her attitude stunk.
Amir was an educated eloquent young man- tge complete opposite to that female with the big gob- even when the auditors was talking to the police I could hear gob on legs trying to persuade Amir that she was right, but sounded like he was calmly putting her right
Very proud of my son Muneer. Well done son. 👏
Raised well, and he is rather handsome too!
He's done Network Rail proud here!
Well done to both of you 🙌💚❤️💙💜
You are blessed to have such a well mannered and fair son ❤
😸😸😸😸
It's weird that the only people who say 'If you've done nothing wrong then you've got nothing to hide' are always the one's hiding from the camera.🤔
I would take legal advice on that statement "EVERY TIME"😁
It's just a provocative statement,to illicit a defensive response .
So transparent, ------ best retort is to laugh,and say" is that the best you can do"?
Exactly
Or like auditards wearing masks????
Hi there, it’s as some people called “Amir”. (Actually Muneer)
I appreciate what a fair amount of people here have stated about me, I am glad to hear that people saw me in the way that my parents raised me.
Thank you all for such kind words.
(My co workers showed me this video a moment ago, and I thought I should stick my face in)
Thanks for being professional and approachable at New Street Muneer, appreciate you watching my video.
And I appreciate that you both were lovely people, and showed such wonderful manners when conversing with me.
@@m.a.n6569 You showed us respect, so we showed it back. So thank you
People that remain calm and collected like yourself always go far in life, I wish you all the best.
@@anonymouse68 Definitely, the rest of the Network Rail staff should learn from Maneer
That lady could curdle milk with her frown.
Hahaha she could 😂😂
She looked like a Bulldog licking the piss off a stinging nettle 👺
Haha! She also can split wood just by looking it!
Well done to Amir. Very professional. As for that awful Karen who can’t keep her mouth shut, she’s the most irritating woman I think I’ve ever heard!!😡
there is no situation that a goby thick woman can not make worse by sticking her nose in
She was the definition of a Karen
Quality phrase
The irony of not wanting to be film whilst sitting under a camera.
The woman is deluded, the only time she isn't recorded is when she goes to the bog.
Absolutely loved this video. The 2nd woman (in your photo) was insufferable. She wouldn’t stop interrupting to hear what her colleague was trying to explain. Such an awful trait, not to stop and listen. The Transit Police conversation was so very encouraging.
Thanks so much, thinks she needs a new job
Guaranteed that when everything is being dealt with in a calm manner a Karen will appear and escalate the situation. Wasn’t disappointed.
Muneer was impartial, professional and most importantly human and treated others as such. That’s all we the public want. We want to be treated justly with respect and not bullied by egotistical bullies in uniform high on a power trip. People in uniform all too often think they can bully and boss people around rather they should be polite and nice to each other and just live and let live.
Muneer deserves to be the team leader. 👏
😂
the male security would make an excellent police officer 😁👌
lovely man
Brown eyed 👀 woman tried to make this Audit a big issue.
She did indeed
That woman is worst kind of team leader. She a bully rude abrasive and escalating. I feel sorry for those working under her because she will make their life a misery if they don’t bend the knee to her. Making up stuff yuk.
Nevermind Judges and Parliament.. Karens and the uninformed officials are always right. and the law doesn't apply 😇
Haha seems to be the case, self important and stuck up
telling lies gob on legs trying to persuade Amir that she was right,
I hope Amir doesn’t face backlash for his excellent attitude but I fear those women will gang up on him.
Karen and Sharon lose thr plot!!! Crazy horses 🐎
Amir was top class, and so were the officers 👍
It's a kind of mass hysteria. One ignoramus kicks off and others go crazy.
Seems so
That's the mob mentality. Sad indictment of human society.
In psychology it's called" social proofing".
Some people kick off and sheep automatically follow.
Correcting a woman who is wrong is always rude. Fortunately there was one employee there who shone and deserved to be in a position with more authority, preferably teaching ignorant Karens (even though they are unteachable)
These people accusing them of violence have never been hit in the mouth. Which is actual violence.
There is no expectation of privacy in public
And the joke is that place is loaded with Cams
I wonder what they will say
Did I give you permission to film Me?????🤡🤡🤡
massive respect to Amir, the rest need to learn from his example.
Amir has been brought up well. People skills in abundance...well done my friend ❤️
👍Asking Politely is not a valid request. People can be asked politely to do all kinds of things, some will comply blindly.
One of those looked like they was from the corpo'ration.
Exactly, sheep will comply blindly, we’re not so easily swayed
@@oliamit one of them? You mean a few of them lol
Yes and if you don't comply it doesn't make you rude
What a sad miserable 🐄 the women on the desk was.
Amir handled that so well all the others kicking off and swalking as he holds it together. Sorry both ladies you acted poorly shouting, escalating, ill informed and telling lies. Look when someone’s filming don’t go all Karen act politely and calmly and try your best not to swalk or go into entitled woke mode. The cops for goodness sake if you work at a train station familiarise yourself with the guidelines asking the public to show you the rules of where you police makes you look incompetent.
Tracey the team leader, wow she's not fit to clean the bogs out. Talk about make an issue where there isn't one.
Decent and professional police. It's rare. Also the station guy trying to de-escalate was great as well.
It's plain to see that training people is at different levels at the station and some are not cut out with dealing with the public, people skills are not something you can really teach it's about knowledge of the area you work in and listening to the public and trying to keep things calm and act professional.
You lads had your work cut out on this one, but well done for remaining calm, collective and educational. Great job. Amir and BTP were good blokes and did their jobs professionally.👍👍
Always great watching you and AY working together.💙💙
Work. Job. You’ll have to explain those strange words to them.
What a ridiculous over reaction by the sales staff ... Why is it that the women in this situation wanted to escalate a situation, including that so called female security guard, she who would not shut up whilst the men tried to de-escalate.
Don't want to be filmed, yet choose to work in one of the most highly surveilled places in the world.
Whenever anyone assertively upholds their rights, they’re “aggressive”.
Becoming a pattern with Karen’s in particular.
Where did that cop get the idea that you need a ticket to go shopping.
Bit silly isn’t it, but he learned in the end
Thank you, BTP constables/officers in this video for your professionalism and demeanour.The skills shown in de-escalation were very good. Thank you for your service. To the young staff member who knew the laws about filming and de-escalation even in the presence of his lead was amazing. Please BT give him a raise in position. He has the skills when dealing with the public in a front facing position. He is the main reason this did not get out of control. To the other BT staff in this video need some serious retraining, or they need to find another job. Cheers from Canada!
If you see this Amir, well done. A real pro 👏
I have never seen such idiotic stupid behaviour from ticket office staff, that actually closed the position and refused service because someone had a camera.
The most appalling behaviour to refuse service, they should get another job, they are too sensitive.
They sit there all day with hundreds of people looking and talking, but cry for help if someone has a camera.
But maybe, just maybe if you went about without looking like ninja warriors you might just achieve your goal, covid restrictions have now ended, so why prolong it?
But to be fair you have another ninja warrior dressed likewise in a BTP uniform at 37:35, and towards the end you both removed the mask, so what was the point?
I believe we still have the right to dress as we like!!
@@niciolamyelwee6646 Yes, we have every right to dress as we like, but a bit of common sense might just put people at ease, a photographer dressed like a trainee ninja only adds to the panic of unstable nervous complain about anything staff
A train station, like a shopping centre, is private property INTENDED for public use. If the public can't use the place because it's private, no one would be able to get a train or spend money in any of the shops. It isn't just accessible to the public. It's for the public to use.
They can kick people out, but they choose not to unless they feel they have to because as you say, it would be bad for business.
They can’t unless someone is in breach of the byelaws
Modern day woman. Acting all tough and shouting. Ameer is a gentleman.
Wow, it all kicked off when I left, hahaha. Couple of Karen's there definitely. BTP was quite spot-on to be fair, even went to educate the staff. Great video as always. Catch up with you again soon buddy.
It sure did lol, hope we can team up again soon, and yeah we did haha, they got schooled
Nice to see good and calm policing.
Why don't they get on with their jobs but they have to get involved but you stood your ground brill
Thanks John, they've always gotta interfere with people's lawful business
There's always someone who thinks shouting and barking orders trumps education and professionalism. The rotund lady needs to work to her social skills. Sad thing is, she's more likely to get promoted than Amir because she's the sort that sucks up to authority
Wow how rude, no surprise really no one wants to be filmed being rude to tax paying public
a great value for money audit - well done TGA and AY 🙂
Tossers
@@superfoxes7204 are you and the other bell ends having fun in the comments section again 😂🤣😂🤣
@@superfoxes7204 isn't it about time you quit your day job then?
@@superfoxes7204 do you need to stay safe buddy in your job???
@@superfoxes7204 hope your buddies and you are staying safe in that job of yours, remember me when I say stay safe buddy... Yer never know what lurks about do we??? 🤣🤔
"Oh I know it's there but"
He couldn't believe a member of the public new the rules better than himself😁😁😁😎
That one woman has a really bad attitude and certainly has a chip on her shoulder. Muneer was a true gentleman
‘Get back on your broomstick’ tickled me 😂
Haha wicked witch of the West Midlands
Maybe the police in the US could watch this and learn how to deal with the public, since over there they seem to think that being aggressive and overbearing and violent is the way to go…?
How are these people in these jobs when they don't know the law, just imagine how many people they bully each day.
She just wants to stir trouble that is all she is about.
She was exercising her privilege didn’t you know 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Muneer is the only person there who bothered to read both policy and law. Clearly receptive to his training too. Would be an excellent cop.
Great vid TGA 👌
Thanks AY
@@Wonky4925 grow up bell end 🤣
Amir was so calm he knew what he was talking about he needs promoting to supervisor but as for that karen she need to learn de-esculation techniques and the law.
big up TGA 🙂
The reason she don’t want to be film is because she is probably claiming benefits, and don’t want to get caught. 😂😂
Very unlikely.
The first one did kind of the right thing, if you don't want to be filmed in a public area, walk away, which she did...
Respect to Muneer and the young Cop, respectful n courteous - women will get you killed I tell you, they come out as if they will battle for you but hell get your light burnt out.
That's my little bro 🙂🙂🙂💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 go on muneer proud of you
Rising to the top with evil fascism and unbelievable.
Why are there so many people who don’t know the difference between ‘ask’ and ‘told/tell’?
Nice one TGA and AY, keep up the great work, stay safe out there guys 👊
Thanks Toxic and you
Was that a video of Police Constables investigating an alleged crime properly with politeness and professionalism and getting both sides of the story before making a determination of whether a crime was actually committed? I.e. doing their jobs properly for once (a rare occurance).
That was a good audit Karen was bumping her gums wanting to be the centre of attention but lol 😂no one took any notice of her lmao.
Nice one TGA 🙂
Thank you A1Dude
Muneer was impressive both with his demeanor and knowledge. I think his colleague should join the feelings police.
Muneer was awesome.
He stuck by what is right, even though the poison dwarf with ginger hair tried to unsuccessfully, make his mind up for him.
He gave me faith in human kind.
I know that coppers sergeant. He prides himself on knowledge of the laws and won’t be over pleased that one of his charges, queried network rail legislation. He knows the bylaws. He should have basically de escalated that himself. Told the staff in no uncertain terms that filming is lawful and a request to stop, does not have to be followed. The staff seem to think that just because they ‘tell’ you to stop, you have to. They believe their word is law. Need to learn quickly that it’s not. Muneer is the only one who understands things.
13:15 - "should be a cleaner, not a team leader" 😆
Don't think she could do a cleaner's day off work but I get your drift👍
Very professional police officer. Well done sir
Cops and public servants always say photographers are agessive when they don’t answer their questions , what a stroppy Karen, sorry. 3 stroppy Karen’s, if they have the right not to be filmed then will they turn their cameras off the public ?
Different stations, different rules, different standards, different laws, different by laws, different karens. Deifering witches ☂️
Good Job, Man!
BTP seemed pretty cool and respect full 🌝🌝 and approachable
Wow, the way she lied when she said you were being aggressive.
What a bish. Bet her hubby is proud.
Does Kev know you’ve put his face on? I think I actually recognise him 😂
blimey ive got underpants older than him, he looks about twelve
Haha he was a young cop, but he took what I said on board, so fair play to him, better than most
At 16:04 the female security being educated in the background by the other security says that its the passengers human right not to be recorded !!! Well if that was the case then they would have to turn off all their CCTV and body cameras. Moron !
Its an equation , loud + brash = thick.
Exactly
A++ to the young chap I think was Moneer? D- to orange face & eyebrows who was gobby and bloody rude, butting in over her calm colleague, becoming strident, and then getting the police involved.
Amir rocks needs to be in charge 100%.And my mates do the bins they said she is hot in the locker room at night ,When the shift has finished. she,s a wild card .
What a shambles, Transport police should not have to get this explained to them they should know, and I never agreed with the section 5 powers adding alarmed and distressed to the law because that's so subjective. And in 90% of these cases, THEY are the ones that get themselves alarmed and distressed, (feelings)
It's a easy Law for the cop's to abuse though now for anything.
@Niciola My Elwee I suspect its been slowly changed to allow just that.
You need to come back to grand Central. NO ONE STOPS YOU FILMING NOW. WE HAVE A GIANT BULL IN THERE PHOTOS AND VIDEOS ALL DAY LONG
6:40 Really rude of the staff to ignore the query about platform tickets and demand the cameras stop recording. They are also breaking article 6 of your human rights. The right to a fair trial requires that all evidence is true and factual. So if the situation becomes one which turns into a complaint or worse, then you have the right to collect your own evidence and to use it. To be denied that is unfair and means you can't put the fact forward for your side of the case.
Think desperation for staff and poor wages ( disgraceful) employers do not give these Staff proper training and de escalate skills to stop them making an arse of themselves , needs fixing as getting worse 🤷♂
The goby security woman is going to be security for the rest of her thick life, pity her fella having to listen that all night.
You are walking around the station filming and the police officer asks ‘are you filming the station’? He’ll go far. He must have his GSE’s
Amir for president 🙌🏼
There are no laws to stop you filming in Birmingham New St station in the manner that youve presented us with on your video. The Stregic Railway Bylaws cover a multitude of railway related offences including Bylaw 6 (unacceptable behaviour), but from what I've viewed you were only acting reasonably. There are no Public Order Act 1986 offences displayed either. Avanti staff in the ticket office (and at the barrier) and the female platform assistant from Network Rail need to hang their heads in shame though for escslating the matter unacceptably. Amir did a sterling job in trying to diffuse the situation. Pity his female colleague didnt have the same skills.
you have permission of nerwork rail to film in the station.
If you don't want to be filmed stay in doors or stick to the countryside, As there are cameras filming you every where else.
In the countryside aswel 😂
Hi Gwent. Why are there photo booths all over the station? PINAC, why are they paranoid about being filmed? What are they trying to hide? Is some of the staff illegally claiming state benefits while working? Should Karen’s be given equal employment rights when they loose self control each month?
Just imagine if we lived in a country where we had a right not to be filmed.
I'd go around enforcing this on ANPR cameras, ULEZ cameras, police cameras, business CCTV cameras, car dashcams.
Or are they saying that the police, businesses, TFL, motorists should have laws that don't apply to them, but should apply to pedestrian Joe Public?
This one rule for them, another rule for us mentality was very clear with the young officer that clearly had his body worn camera recording (without informing you) whilst he was telling you that you can't take photos (without written permission that may not get granted anyway).
She just won’t shut up. Crazy wailing banshee. I’m shocked she didn’t claim you were harassing her.