Only by means of sublime connection be it to lovers, family, work, or a transpersonal purpose can the void be filled. A lesson she failed to recognize, turning to drugs as an escape which lead to her demise.
Although it was isolating, he would see people and hide, so very different from being isolated in a way. He chose to avoid people and contact to survive, he was stimulated in a way, surviving in the hopes of returning home from that isolation. Many people live in isolated cases, but these scientists are sort of depriving themselves from a connection to the world entirely.
the chance you need youtube mary and jesus in the quran and mohmmad in the bible and the Torah and the scientific miracles of the quran and mohmmad in hindu scripture
People in prison do it yearly all the time ! There’s actually a prison in Colorado called the ADX where the guards don’t even interact with the inmates, they go as far as to wear soundless boots to make it eerily quiet for the prisoners. No television, nothing, just isolation. This is real.
Exactly. The ADX is called a "supermax" prison but its only purpose is to break peoples mind. In most cases the inmates are from other maximum security prisons already and were violent and uncooperative - so they send them to ADX for a year or two and torture them with sensory deprivation. But some people stay there forever. This must be hell on earth.
poor woman. it's hard to imagine the disappointment of coming back from an experience like that only to find that the world you left behind is exactly as mundane and vapid as it's ever been. i hope her husband and other loved ones have found peace
is it you just get used to and lost social skills and dont want to adapt cause now social became something new, and humans struggle to learn something new
Im all good, Lucky my stay was in solitary was in 2 stays , the 2nd time was my choice.. wasn't worth paying appeals lawyer 25k$ and dragging it on for more years. So i walked to up to the jail and had to asked to let me in on my own. But i was prepared this time, trained like i was going on naked and afraid & learned how to draw sacred geometry without a ruler, compus or protractor, while my lying x got the karma she asked for. so im not bitter at all, and payed the karma i asked for then sum and was rewarded in the end. Thanks for caring tho
I spent 50 weeks in isolation, in the mountains, I lived on the edge of a lake, had no idea of the date or how long I was there , one day a park ranger found me and told me. I miss being there, society is messed up
When in isolation it is not unusual to make friends with things people would consider objects. Once you have lost all of the people you love, you can only rely on yourself and you're creativity with what you have.
I would probably just start talking to my old dead friends. I've lost at least 18 people close to me. At least this way when people see me talking to them it would make sense
I was going through a massive depression, I locked myself in my room with very little human contact for about 1 year, all I did was sit in front of my computer and reading books and articles. When I started to get out and meet people again in real life, my compassion you can say for people changed and my emotions seemed like they were missing, till this day I still feel like a part of me was gone through that long period of isolation
Sounds a lot like covid isolation. Save for medical appointments I didn't leave the house for about 18 months. It was good at the time but returning to civilization has been... difficult.
*She was screwed up BEFORE she went into the cave. The cave just amplified the quiet internal strife that what was already there by implementing external sensory deprivation which is usually psychologically "louder". A lot of people don't know who they are or how to handle the realization that you're likely an empty shell filled with only unchallenged culturally adopted values. If this level of self evaluation is not done first, the shock is overwhelming when the truth is thrown all up in your face at once. Most people are not prepared to function properly with that much naked truth.*
@@tiadoran Exactly. Time to think alone in absolute quiet and no extremal stimulation or interaction crushes a person like that. There's a reason why Covid-19 "enlightened" so many. It directly demonstrated that most of us are useless redundancies, replaceable cogs in the machine. Even worse a lot of workaholic people suddenly were forced to spend time with their family only to realize they hate them. It was an eye opener for many.
@@DayInDaLife It's funny you mentioned Covid. In this period I learned that I am happiest when in isolation. I still live in my home to this day, I see people from time to time but it feels like the world for the most part has moved on without me. It's as if I have passed, even though I am still alive and I'm okay with that. I don't miss the life I lived before, it felt fake. Isolation can break some, it can make others... wouldn't know what to do without my computer though. It provides me with a life time worth of content to consume.
@@DayInDaLife I did marvelously well during the lockdowns because I was actually born during a lockdown under martial law when my country was invaded by the Soviet Union in 1968. Since I also had extensive experience with psychedelic drugs, I knew that even the worst trip eventually comes to an end; and so do all lockdowns.
My theory is. Humans, especially modern ones have their senses constantly assaulted and also driven by their social need to fit it. Temporary isolation still leaves you "echos" bouncing around your psyche, eventually these echoes stop and you finally really think and come up with annswers, even if subconsciously. Imagine this: You constantly go about your life in a way which lets you fit in. You find groups which you fit in in. However how many times has something gone unsaid, how many little inner thoughts you've suppressed. Your head also ends up being filled by words of people around you. Your brain could also be processing for any hidden meanings behind their words, even the average person likely knows of double speak. All these things echo in your brain. Isolation lets you process these "echoes" it let's you REALLY think without any social constraints. You become your own group with only your own thoughts uninfluenced by other people. In such a scenario, who knows what conclusions or changes you may go through.
@@caymansharp623 Check out Nietze. Sure he preached strenght of one's self, but at the end Humans are social creatures. It's in our very DNA. Social isolation tends to drive us insane. If you move from group to group, you need some time to adapt. However, when you for your own group, adapting is much harder, since you need to sacrifice a part of yourself for fitting in. After prolonged isolation, you feell that part of you becoming your own. Then to rejoin society, you need to give it up yet again.
I really liked that you gave an example, that was awesome and will cause anyone to resonate with what you’re saying! I loved it, for real. I sure hope you’re a writer. Thank you for your time, enjoy your evening.
Isolation really changes people. What she said about that it surprised her how not difficult it was to get under people again and that her being away for months felt like a week is what I've heard often. Isolation changes a person. I tried as a younger person to make friends, failed, and worried what others may think of me. Now I'm older those feelings are long gone and so is my desire to connect with people. Eventually I just stopped caring to the point of that little bothers or gets a strong reaction out of me nowadays. Most of the times I'm not happy nor am I sad. I'm just here doing the things I like to do not minding any longer how that can be perceived. Things don't seem to matter anymore. Nothing in fact does. Isolation really changes people.
There are a lot of negatives with dealing with people that most don’t notice or feel. But one needs to only think upon having an annoying roommate or noisy neighbor to get the picture…
Not quite the same, but felt something similar being deployed in a combat zone. You leave for 9+ months and come back to life at home almost exactly the same.
Yes. I know what you mean after being abroad for a few years. It's when you realize you're not that important, our existence did not matter to that world. We could've died and it wouldn't have mattered. I learned to live for myself since those days.
@@timspikerIt matters a lot. But that doesn't mean the world can or will stop. Your seeing it wrong. It can matter an extreme amount but life still will go on. We have entire countries destroyed in war. And life goes on. An entire planet of dinosaurs were taken out. Life goes on.
@@user-rh1hu7yl1n It doesn't matter if I see it wrong or not. It's very difficult to explain this if you haven't experienced it. Imagine heart break or grief but instead of fading in a few weeks, it remains for a very very long time and even increases in pain and your brain won't move on from it. You're stuck there for what seems an eternity. It is as if you've died but you're still alive and you're just watching life pass. Instead of being the main character in your own movie and experiencing life, you're now the side passanger in your own brain observing life as it passes on without your interaction because your only internal reaction is your brain showing you memories from a long time ago. Which is not how memory normally functions and you want it to change, but it does not change. It becomes the default of how you operate on a day to day bases. Every human interaction becomes ingenuine because you have to fake emotion at that point because the only emotion present is grief. Grief to a past you who is gone. It is extremely difficult to get out of. Eventually you get out of it, but you're changed forever. It has turned me from an extrovert into a more introverted person. I've become more of a thinker than a doer. I am still in the same body, but internally I am not the same person.
@@user-rh1hu7yl1n It doesn't matter if I see it wrong or not. It's very difficult to explain this if you haven't experienced it. Imagine heart break or grief but instead of fading in a few weeks, it remains for a very very long time and even increases in pain and your brain won't move on from it. It's stuck there for what seems an eternity. It is as if you've passed away but you're still alive and you're just watching life pass. Instead of being the main character in your own movie and experiencing life, you're now the side passanger in your own brain observing life as it passes on without your interaction because the only internal reaction is the brain showing you memories from a long time ago. Which is not how memory normally functions and you want it to change, but it does not change. It becomes the default of how you operate on a day to day bases. Every human interaction becomes ingenuine because you have to fake emotion at that point because the only emotion present is grief. Grief of a past you who is gone. It is extremely difficult to get out of. Eventually you get out of it, but you're changed forever. It has turned me from an extrovert into a more introverted person. I've become more of a thinker than a doer. I am still in the same body, but internally I am not the same person. Like swapping souls with a stranger.
She probably felt more empty coming back to civilization than she did going in the cave when walking away from civilization for this study. The rigorous testing did the opposite in keeping her busy and focused with a task to keep up with. These task weren’t what a real person would be doing if in natural circumstances would need to focus on to the extent she had to. The thought of all that testing and knowing they haven’t even analyzed all of it is even more frustrating. She produced more data or information than her colleagues could sort through in a meaningful amount of time to make her feel it was worth it all.
I spent 13months in solitary confinement with no books no toilet paper no nothing just a mattress and a blanket, no clothes either and it was cold. When my time was up my friend came to pick me up and being around my best friend I was no longer traumatized. But the whole thing was hell though. So happy to be out of jail. Travis X
You were tortured, do you realize that? Solitary confinement that lasts more than 15 consecutive days is recognized by the United Nations and various human rights organizations as torture.
@Tripskull He is full of shit. You would have to go to a South American prison to not have toilet paper for over a year. Ive spent 2+ years in the SHU in NY for assaulting staff, and weapon possesion. Also done time in Cook County Ill. So even when the c.o.s wanted to kill me I still had toilet paper.
@@Tripskullno offense, but, that's how the penal system and our "justice" system works here in America. They are intentional in breaking you or creating better criminals.
@@baloneysaucejohnson8747 absolutely. Recidivism is their goal. In the USA, rehabiitation is an error at best. You are meant tp pay for crimes in perpetuity. Even if you pay your debt to society, you are, and will always be a criminal. As such, a life-long felon, you no longer deserve a roof, employmen, or an education. But you should never suffer the indiguity of a background check mh it you buy a... gun from a guy off a cardboard table. Americans monumentally stupid and gas lit until a state of confusion. The churxh party is rifht wing, despises the poor, only believes those who can adford it deserve help, or Healthcare. Got a job? You no longer qualiify for help. Wait, how did you pass the background check?!?!
Who was holding you hostage like that? Was that a military prison? That was torture. How were you able to even communicate after being alone? Did everything seem very loud and strange once out of the cell?
Id like to make a note. Isolation comes in two forms. Locked and free. Either stuck in one small spot or off the grid alone in the wild. I did the latter and let me tell you. A week alone in the woods is good for your soul. If its to be studied. Why not provide a more suitable environment?
give me a cabin near a lake 100km from closest village and have someone refill my food and water during the time I sleep so I never get in contact and I will live there for the rest of my days and nothing on my mentality or behaviour will change. I was made for that life. Got to experience it once for 6 months without saying a single word or seeing a single person and I will cherish every second of it for the rest of my days
Being isolated is such an intimate experience - to have cameras & mics seems so invasive, then to remove music…It seems she was the subject of their experiment.
I was just about to comment this when I saw your comment, I had a similar experience as a child that lasted a little over 2 years and ever since I never felt connected to “here”, it’s such an endless void of something that can’t be described, and although it isn’t necessarily negative, it feels like infinity ♾️ is an entity that is always around you. I haven’t been able to integrate it completely and Idk if I ever will, but there is something that words can’t describe.
Being a infj 43 year old male I've spent many years alone since my divorce. I couldn't imagine no music. No movies no day or night hell no clock is even okay. But I'd die without my music for real music saves lives. But I do know the 6 almost 7 years I've sit in my house alone only being around people at work and even then I work alone. It's taken a toll on me and changed my perspective and way I see this world. So I can not imagine what this women went through. Rip may God be with you
I spend a lot of time alone, but I have the internet, music, a couple guitars, the radio, books, and a phone if I ever want to actually talk to a human being. Sometimes I go for a week and the only conversation in person is, "Paper or plastic?" I don't mind too much but I would be lying if I said I wasn't lonely. It has been increasingly difficult for me to find likeminded people at my age of 60, plus I've had some friends die over the last couple years and some with major health problems that don't permit them to get out and about, but I still visit sometimes. 111 days isn't very long but I think I would have been messed up without all the distractions I have now.
I practice emotional isolation; it's like choosing something you have no choice in. My life has always been a pattern of punishment for sharing my thoughts and feelings so I just learned to stop. Maybe that's what I use internet comment sections for, to let out what I refuse to share with so-called friends and so-called family.
I've developed a very similar internal sentiment toward social structures and other people in my self-imposed isolation over my development, I'm autistic and my difficulty in communicating with most people has lead to my love of my own studies and creations but a negative sentiment towards other's ways of being.
For me instead of negative it is just over sensitized. I wish I could behave and act more social to have more friends. I think both worlds are nice though. The internal world and sense and the external which fuels the internal.
@@ianyoung6706 probably, i use narcissism as a defence mechanism a lot unfortunately, i am not a narcissistic personality as i'm capable of accepting criticism and punishment even if i never FEEL responsible, i'm somewhat a borderline psychopath in my opinion, i don't feel actively malicious towards anyone or any group, i just find it easy to feel stressed.
What she was feeling in the end was dissociation or depersonalization. It's common with people with severe depression, social alienation , anxiety etc.
I'd just like to say that you're never without music as long as you can sing. When I was arrested and thereby isolated (that's how it works here in Sweden), I managed the nothingness much better by singing way more than half of my time awake.
Why would she be sent in with the books of sadistic behaviors. I am wondering what the scientist intended to accomplish by providing the book of torture and yelling at her. Overall, the experiment was torture.
Yeah same thought. She was in fact a lab rat, prisoner and slave to her tasks. I think if her husband hadn't berated her and showed compassion he would have set in motion something better, being in isolation like that one becomes super susceptible to stimuly.
I grew up alone with no family or friends and I have sort of come to thrive in solitude. Being around others is deeply uncomfortable and I’ve never felt lonely a day in my life. A real lonely person can feel alone in a crowd.
It’s a combination of her expanded perspective on the world, and her age. She saw what 99.9% people don’t… those things change you. She was clearly well functioning, any allegations of insanity or mental damage are completely missing the truth. She already felt that she was wasting her life… and in there, she gained a perspective on reality free from society’s programming. She was truly free (mentally) in that cave as she marked. No worry about rent, no hassle of job, no concern on food, no stress about the future… that’s the special part not the cave. She clearly wasn’t one to be bothered by lack of social interaction. So when she came out, seeing the world stripped of all biases we constantly drown ourselves in like drugs… she couldn’t find any peace in knowing how her life had been. It probably would’ve helped if she had someone who understood her, if she could communicate… but as we all have found out given the recent “loneliness epidemic” - that’s easier said than done. There’s a similar effect when you visit space or moon, and see the Earth as tiny as it is. Though, that one is more positive. After all you’re one of the top humans in history, successful and IN SPACE.
Space travel wouldn't be extreme isolation. For one thing you'd have access to all sorts of entertainment and activities so it wouldn't be challenging even if it was still _social_ isolation, secondly people wouldn't even be socially isolated. There would be a whole crew, and probably a huge one of unprecedented number and diversity. The problems only really occur when there is a combination of sensory deprivation, activity deprivation, and social deprivation (if that is even considered separate, since it's really just another form of activity deprivation).
I spend 1 month in isolation at age 15 .. Then 5 months at age 16. 4 more months age 17. Then 3 months age 18. Age 26 I spent 3 months in isolation. Then 6 months age 28. And another 3 months at 28 again. In addition to 10 years locked up in State then Federal prison. I believe it did effect me in some way. I don't let go easily and have difficulty detaching emotionally. I would not wish it on anyone.
Thank You, I did not expect the end which I will not share. A video worth watching in full. What scientist already know is we are social creatures and our mental health easily leaves a stable state after extended isolation and limited communications which may have been turse and cold so as to minimize the social benefit to her.
Isolation is great. It can be. This is extreme isolation-literally burying someone alive. There's a huge gap. Nothing great has ever came from extremes (extreme statement!)
Well I've been in similar isolation, not quite as bad- but still. Imagine when you have been through an isolation like this and you have to hear the media talk about how bad COVID19 isolation was when no one cared or noticed your isolation
Isolation can be beautiful. You are the captain of your own mind. Stepping away from "society" and simply surviving. The most dangerous thing is that if you can master this you wish not to return.
My periods are extremely unreliable, so that would definitely mess me up more. Also, I know that this would make me go gibbering mad in short order; I can't live year-round in northern Alaska despite my love for the region because even with UV lighting for the winter and careful darkness management in the summer to mimic a proper day/night cycle, I start to lose it after awhile. Without a fairly normal circadian cycle my sanity goes out the window. It wouldn't be the isolation that would get to me first.
I spent years trying to get my insomnia under control. I would often go 48 hours without sleep. At one point I was on lithium, an antidepressant and Ambien. I managed to maintain a regular sleep schedule for about 8 years and sleeping 7-8 hours every night, but lately the staying up and early morning waking have been creeping back up on me. My last two doctors won't prescribe Ambien to me and that was the only thing that really worked. I wouldn't take it every night, but I would use it to get back into a regular sleep pattern then not take it when I was back on schedule. Melatonin helps a lot but like Ambien it's best not to take it every night. Wanting to sleep and not being able to is such a miserable feeling.
lonely becomes alone, a reason why babies stop crying eventually when they realize no one will come for them, long before they begin starving and fatiguing to death
Sometimes when you get lost and are alone you are forced to face the worst thing in existence... Sometimes you lose the fight. Some things you lose when you fight can never be replaced.
I was arrested in 2019. I did a year behind the door in county. The jail was breaking the law with what they did to me but did not care. About halfway through I really started losing my mind. I remember a drain fly flew into my room and I was terrified to crush the only company I had.
Probably seasonal depression. Everyone living near the Arctic Circle gets it every year, some more than others. Growing up in Alaska, which has a very high suicide rate, there weeks would go by where you might only see a sliver of sunlight around noon on your face. Long periods of cold and dark, like living in a cave, can dramatically affect a person's personality for months, years, or a lifetime. I found solace in reading also, and using my imagination.
I spent a lot of time isolated as a kid. I remember when I went back to school after a period I forgot how to interact. Like when you look at your friend and feel that spark when something is funny or interesting to both of you. I forgot how to do that. Was extremely depressed, developed addiction, attempted suicide. I tried acid when I was 19 and it came back in that trip. I noticed myself laughing and enjoying myself with my friends in a way I haven’t done since I was 8 or so. Now I feel like I’ve made it all the way back but I don’t wish that upon anyone. That’s not even from extreme isolation like some of these other cases, that was just a majority of my time being isolated and it led to that. I couldn’t imagine being locked in solitary for an extended period of time.
Fr. She found reality in that cave, and afterwards saw the matrix for what it was. My biggest curiosity is why she didn't go back to the wilderness instead of doing what she did.
Seems to me she was vibing in the cave. She hated the scientist, but she loved the cave. When she returned to society, she realized how mundane and unimportant the daily rigamarole truly is. She yearned for the freedom of the cave. The ability to exist free of responsibility. This is further proven by how she began to denounce her testing in the cave. She wished to simply exist without any task. Despite being one of the only things she was responsible for, it had become as infuriating as any other 9-5 by comparison. Her molehills became mountains. She slowly lost her ability to deal with the bullshit society puts the average person through on a daily basis. Who needs 13 reasons when we live in a society?
Sounds like unnecessary torture. The guy in 1961 had music and there's no good reason to think music can't be enjoyed on a long space ride like going to Mars. That guy was dumb to say her suicide had nothing to do with her isolation. He probably is very similar to Forrest Gump in at least a few ways!
Isolation makes you realize how insane humanity is to be doing the same routines over and over endlessly living in a slow mundane reality perfectly appeased by some form of indulgence that gets them through the week I can imagine in the cave she found a true hero’s journey within only to re enter society seeing to everyone else they were still just doing the same shit different day.
For those of you who don't want to hear him call her Voronic for 12 minutes. She basically went into the cave. Had weird sleep schedules. When she came out, she was disappointed by the world and the rat race, having been away from it for some time. She overdosed on barbiturates in her car because she ended up realizing life is better in a cave than in society.
I have spent 29 years somewhat isolated. Getting outcasted from every group. Spending an entire lifetime in the matrix. Never gaining positive energy from people only negative energy. But I am still here. I’ve also gone from being super empathic to psychopathic. It’s been an incredible life.
I'm always alone in my room at Res....people wrote exams and went home for winter holidays, and ill be here on my own the whole time. Once you taste isolation, it's over, you won't want to be with people anymore....Sometimes it's a little hard, but most of the times it beautiful
I've been "alone" for 8 years now. it's awesome. No friends and playing video games, not leaving the house is great. Now that i'm finally doing stuff again it's been awful.
That’s the best place to be alone by yourself no outside stimulation that’s peace at it’s finest no lie on my prison stint I loved being in hole never had a bad day be myself
the best way to probably study this would be to put a very young child into isolation that hasn't experienced any of the world. but that would be absolutely horrible and inhumane
There are rooms that are totally soundproof. I suggest also to spend time in one of those. The body will begin to really upon itself as in the Floating tank. Your senses will become hyper-sensitive. You will hear the earth groan, as well as the inner sounds your body already makes. Again, you will face your ego. Find testimonies of people who have been in soundproof rooms. Before going into the Floating tank and the soundproof rooms, study philosophy first. You will see where the philosophers got their ideas from. Yes, they isolated themselves.
In prison, they force you to keep a routine exactly for that purpose: to prevent you from going insane. Thats why solitary confinement is such a cruel punishment. But you still keep a sense of day, night, food etc. This woman started sleeping for 30 hours in one go and stood awake for 50. Thats beyond cruel punishment. Thats insanity.
Left with self reflection only interrupted by mundane data collection she realised she had no idea what life was about and learnt that to find out what life was about she had to be honest with herself. Unfortunately she may have been honest with herself but not honest enough to face the reality of honesty or it would have set her free that she would not have killed herself.
@@panwu6602 while not this extreme, I have been isolating myself from people all my life. I feel, what was described here, what she felt when she came back. There is this deep seated fundamental disconnect between me and other people that cannot be bridged. It is some sort of hell. Worse even. It is limbo.
@@Yggdra666 Funniest part is when these freaks think it's some sort of punishment to be separated from them when in reality it's a reward. For me it was Convid that made me finally admit that I actually hate society, heh.
Sad you didn't use the actual pictures of examples you described, but AI generated photos and you cited no sources for the information used. I feel like very little is actually said in this video, it could have been shorter, or more information could have been added.
I moved to a small town roughly 10 years ago. I didnt know many people outside of work. When Covid hit i was basically alone for 8 months before returning to work. The weird sleep cycles are absolutely a thing but overall it wasnt that bad. Its not at all what this lady went through i know. All im saying, if there HAD to be a time to be isolated? A time when i had an endless supply of video games, audiobooks, and easy access to communication was PRETTY lucky.
The ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey where astronaut Dave Bowman is placed in isolation. Or Vonnegut's time on the planet Trafalmador. Interesting to see it for reals.
The unintentional outcome/effect on this women is that she emerged from the cave having developed a stoic mindset that is not compatible with a womens id/ego. I'd summise that the husband is correct in that the experiment contributed to her choice of that last lonely drive.
The cave experiment had more components than isolation. She also couldn't have a computer or other entertainment devices, and was subject to monitoring and restrictions on hygiene, which would be stressful to me. We wouldn't need that in a trip across the solar system, unless they wanted to make it an invasive experiment too. I'd prefer to be alone on such a trip because I don't trust people, who might be more severely affected by confined space.
If we had to go to mars, we would have clocks, things to read and entertain, etc… WTF is the purpose of the experiment involving denial of info on time and sensory deprivation?
The problem indeed was probably based on her sex since women are wired primarily for family, community, relationship, whereas men are default wired for roaming, rootlessness, and solitude.
Me personally am a non-activity type of person and I am also sort of non-social and this means that usually I would just mainly stay inside and when I am in public or outside somewhere I barely really like to talk to people and just as in the video I feel very disconnected to the environment that I am usually in, for example school is one thing that I feel very disconnected to and I don't really like to talk to people in school, because I feel isolated there and I am just not naturally able to become comfortable with being there, and the only time that I am naturally and genuinely comfortable and content is when I come home, because when I come home I have no one to talk to, and its kind of because 1. I am always in school everyday, and I don't like to talk to people there 2. when I come home I am comfortable, because I have no one to talk to, because my brain has gotten used to not wanting to talk to people in my usual environment, so that when I'm in my less usual environment, my brain becomes comfortable with not talking to anyone at all, because there is no one around me. And Congratulations if you understood that, and congratulations if you even read the whole thing. But anyways that is just something relative to this video topic, and just sharing how I think I can kind of relate to this video.
It’s funny, because when you mentioned that there were camera in this experiment, and not in the one prior, my first thought was “they’re probably doing dirty things while watching her”.
Here is a suggestion. Before doing the isolation experiment, recognize the chemical processes of the human body. First, experience the Floating tanks. Reason, when isolated without any external stimuli, the body will go within. The body will communicate with itself on subtle levels. The body will naturally hallucinate. You face your ego. Find testimonies of people who have had Floating tank experience. (Next message)
French existentialist scientist stares into void, void stares back.
Only by means of sublime connection be it to lovers, family, work, or a transpersonal purpose can the void be filled. A lesson she failed to recognize, turning to drugs as an escape which lead to her demise.
There's no such thing as void. There is no place where nothing is.
@@AndyDavidson-tg4un There is a lot of nothing in outer space.
@@AndyDavidson-tg4un Death: *side eye glances*
@@AndyDavidson-tg4unyou lack of knowledge or imaginarion my dear
when he said "you dont want to miss this" it took everything in my body and soul not to close the tab immediately
I’m continuing the video to see if he ever pronounces her name correctly. 😅
Voronic
Should have closed the tab.
Clickbaity mf
@@joshuawesteros5345 the overdose in barbichuray is very tragic because doctors probably didn't know what that is.
What about this Japanese man that thought WW 2 is still going on for whatever how many years and lived in a cave?
right, but wasnt it just the jungle in the phillipines?
@@Kaizen747 I believe so.
Although it was isolating, he would see people and hide, so very different from being isolated in a way. He chose to avoid people and contact to survive, he was stimulated in a way, surviving in the hopes of returning home from that isolation. Many people live in isolated cases, but these scientists are sort of depriving themselves from a connection to the world entirely.
the chance you need
youtube mary and jesus in the quran and mohmmad in the bible and the Torah and the scientific miracles of the quran and mohmmad in hindu scripture
Over 20 years
People in prison do it yearly all the time ! There’s actually a prison in Colorado called the ADX where the guards don’t even interact with the inmates, they go as far as to wear soundless boots to make it eerily quiet for the prisoners. No television, nothing, just isolation. This is real.
sounds like heaven...
Sounds like torture.
If you seek isolation is ok.enforced isolation is satanic.
Exactly. The ADX is called a "supermax" prison but its only purpose is to break peoples mind. In most cases the inmates are from other maximum security prisons already and were violent and uncooperative - so they send them to ADX for a year or two and torture them with sensory deprivation. But some people stay there forever. This must be hell on earth.
@@hanshandkante5055 America is a sick and demonic country.
poor woman. it's hard to imagine the disappointment of coming back from an experience like that only to find that the world you left behind is exactly as mundane and vapid as it's ever been. i hope her husband and other loved ones have found peace
I think that it's the feeling that she didn't matter that broke her.
Life goes on, even after you die.
@@nyoomba That's something everybody knows - none of us matter, not really anyway. It had to be something.
I guess the only way to fit in society is to never leave it
Indeed🎉
i was in solitary confinement for 115 days total and never got to go outside at all, now i don't really want to be around ppl at all.
are you ok bro
Ive done 90 days. I feel just the same.
is it you just get used to and lost social skills and dont want to adapt cause now social became something new, and humans struggle to learn something new
Im all good, Lucky my stay was in solitary was in 2 stays , the 2nd time was my choice.. wasn't worth paying appeals lawyer 25k$ and dragging it on for more years. So i walked to up to the jail and had to asked to let me in on my own. But i was prepared this time, trained like i was going on naked and afraid & learned how to draw sacred geometry without a ruler, compus or protractor, while my lying x got the karma she asked for. so im not bitter at all, and payed the karma i asked for then sum and was rewarded in the end. Thanks for caring tho
Hey. That's ok. People are definitely overrated.
I spent 50 weeks in isolation, in the mountains, I lived on the edge of a lake, had no idea of the date or how long I was there , one day a park ranger found me and told me. I miss being there, society is messed up
A loch surely?
What were you doing out there?
@@Sorrowdusk living my best life
@@Aconitum_napellus It was a loch, and don't call me Shirley!
Agreed, I doubt this would be a problem for me
When in isolation it is not unusual to make friends with things people would consider objects.
Once you have lost all of the people you love, you can only rely on yourself and you're creativity with what you have.
I would probably just start talking to my old dead friends. I've lost at least 18 people close to me. At least this way when people see me talking to them it would make sense
Wilson 😁
@@soxpeewee Wilson! LOL!
wilson agrees with you
Wilsonnnnn
I was going through a massive depression, I locked myself in my room with very little human contact for about 1 year, all I did was sit in front of my computer and reading books and articles. When I started to get out and meet people again in real life, my compassion you can say for people changed and my emotions seemed like they were missing, till this day I still feel like a part of me was gone through that long period of isolation
Same but for over a decade, 14 years even. Came home from school one day and never left my bedroom
it's because you constantly distracted yourself. has nothing to do with isolation
Sounds a lot like covid isolation. Save for medical appointments I didn't leave the house for about 18 months. It was good at the time but returning to civilization has been... difficult.
That wasn't even real isolation
ive been doing that for like 7 years now...
*She was screwed up BEFORE she went into the cave. The cave just amplified the quiet internal strife that what was already there by implementing external sensory deprivation which is usually psychologically "louder". A lot of people don't know who they are or how to handle the realization that you're likely an empty shell filled with only unchallenged culturally adopted values. If this level of self evaluation is not done first, the shock is overwhelming when the truth is thrown all up in your face at once. Most people are not prepared to function properly with that much naked truth.*
I agree. The quote in which she says she hated her life before ever considering the expedition speaks volumes.
@@tiadoran Exactly. Time to think alone in absolute quiet and no extremal stimulation or interaction crushes a person like that. There's a reason why Covid-19 "enlightened" so many. It directly demonstrated that most of us are useless redundancies, replaceable cogs in the machine. Even worse a lot of workaholic people suddenly were forced to spend time with their family only to realize they hate them. It was an eye opener for many.
@@DayInDaLife It's funny you mentioned Covid. In this period I learned that I am happiest when in isolation. I still live in my home to this day, I see people from time to time but it feels like the world for the most part has moved on without me. It's as if I have passed, even though I am still alive and I'm okay with that. I don't miss the life I lived before, it felt fake. Isolation can break some, it can make others... wouldn't know what to do without my computer though. It provides me with a life time worth of content to consume.
@@DayInDaLife I did marvelously well during the lockdowns because I was actually born during a lockdown under martial law when my country was invaded by the Soviet Union in 1968. Since I also had extensive experience with psychedelic drugs, I knew that even the worst trip eventually comes to an end; and so do all lockdowns.
Well written.
My theory is. Humans, especially modern ones have their senses constantly assaulted and also driven by their social need to fit it. Temporary isolation still leaves you "echos" bouncing around your psyche, eventually these echoes stop and you finally really think and come up with annswers, even if subconsciously.
Imagine this: You constantly go about your life in a way which lets you fit in. You find groups which you fit in in. However how many times has something gone unsaid, how many little inner thoughts you've suppressed. Your head also ends up being filled by words of people around you. Your brain could also be processing for any hidden meanings behind their words, even the average person likely knows of double speak. All these things echo in your brain. Isolation lets you process these "echoes" it let's you REALLY think without any social constraints. You become your own group with only your own thoughts uninfluenced by other people. In such a scenario, who knows what conclusions or changes you may go through.
this makes it sound more positive than negative but its definitely more detrimental
@@caymansharp623 Check out Nietze. Sure he preached strenght of one's self, but at the end Humans are social creatures. It's in our very DNA. Social isolation tends to drive us insane. If you move from group to group, you need some time to adapt. However, when you for your own group, adapting is much harder, since you need to sacrifice a part of yourself for fitting in. After prolonged isolation, you feell that part of you becoming your own. Then to rejoin society, you need to give it up yet again.
We are just going through the motions, thinking whatever is in front of us, idk.
I really liked that you gave an example, that was awesome and will cause anyone to resonate with what you’re saying! I loved it, for real. I sure hope you’re a writer. Thank you for your time, enjoy your evening.
Explained a psychopath
Isolation really changes people. What she said about that it surprised her how not difficult it was to get under people again and that her being away for months felt like a week is what I've heard often. Isolation changes a person. I tried as a younger person to make friends, failed, and worried what others may think of me. Now I'm older those feelings are long gone and so is my desire to connect with people. Eventually I just stopped caring to the point of that little bothers or gets a strong reaction out of me nowadays. Most of the times I'm not happy nor am I sad. I'm just here doing the things I like to do not minding any longer how that can be perceived. Things don't seem to matter anymore. Nothing in fact does. Isolation really changes people.
There are a lot of negatives with dealing with people that most don’t notice or feel. But one needs to only think upon having an annoying roommate or noisy neighbor to get the picture…
Not quite the same, but felt something similar being deployed in a combat zone. You leave for 9+ months and come back to life at home almost exactly the same.
Yes. I know what you mean after being abroad for a few years. It's when you realize you're not that important, our existence did not matter to that world. We could've died and it wouldn't have mattered. I learned to live for myself since those days.
it must be jarring
@@timspikerIt matters a lot. But that doesn't mean the world can or will stop. Your seeing it wrong. It can matter an extreme amount but life still will go on. We have entire countries destroyed in war. And life goes on. An entire planet of dinosaurs were taken out. Life goes on.
@@user-rh1hu7yl1n It doesn't matter if I see it wrong or not. It's very difficult to explain this if you haven't experienced it.
Imagine heart break or grief but instead of fading in a few weeks, it remains for a very very long time and even increases in pain and your brain won't move on from it. You're stuck there for what seems an eternity. It is as if you've died but you're still alive and you're just watching life pass. Instead of being the main character in your own movie and experiencing life, you're now the side passanger in your own brain observing life as it passes on without your interaction because your only internal reaction is your brain showing you memories from a long time ago. Which is not how memory normally functions and you want it to change, but it does not change. It becomes the default of how you operate on a day to day bases.
Every human interaction becomes ingenuine because you have to fake emotion at that point because the only emotion present is grief. Grief to a past you who is gone. It is extremely difficult to get out of. Eventually you get out of it, but you're changed forever.
It has turned me from an extrovert into a more introverted person. I've become more of a thinker than a doer. I am still in the same body, but internally I am not the same person.
@@user-rh1hu7yl1n It doesn't matter if I see it wrong or not. It's very difficult to explain this if you haven't experienced it.
Imagine heart break or grief but instead of fading in a few weeks, it remains for a very very long time and even increases in pain and your brain won't move on from it. It's stuck there for what seems an eternity. It is as if you've passed away but you're still alive and you're just watching life pass. Instead of being the main character in your own movie and experiencing life, you're now the side passanger in your own brain observing life as it passes on without your interaction because the only internal reaction is the brain showing you memories from a long time ago. Which is not how memory normally functions and you want it to change, but it does not change. It becomes the default of how you operate on a day to day bases.
Every human interaction becomes ingenuine because you have to fake emotion at that point because the only emotion present is grief. Grief of a past you who is gone. It is extremely difficult to get out of. Eventually you get out of it, but you're changed forever.
It has turned me from an extrovert into a more introverted person. I've become more of a thinker than a doer. I am still in the same body, but internally I am not the same person. Like swapping souls with a stranger.
She probably felt more empty coming back to civilization than she did going in the cave when walking away from civilization for this study. The rigorous testing did the opposite in keeping her busy and focused with a task to keep up with. These task weren’t what a real person would be doing if in natural circumstances would need to focus on to the extent she had to. The thought of all that testing and knowing they haven’t even analyzed all of it is even more frustrating. She produced more data or information than her colleagues could sort through in a meaningful amount of time to make her feel it was worth it all.
I wonder if Michelle or her husband EVER asked her if she wanted to stop...
I'm sure they did. The husband at least.
I spent 13months in solitary confinement with no books no toilet paper no nothing just a mattress and a blanket, no clothes either and it was cold. When my time was up my friend came to pick me up and being around my best friend I was no longer traumatized. But the whole thing was hell though. So happy to be out of jail. Travis X
You were tortured, do you realize that?
Solitary confinement that lasts more than 15 consecutive days is recognized by the United Nations and various human rights organizations as torture.
@Tripskull He is full of shit. You would have to go to a South American prison to not have toilet paper for over a year. Ive spent 2+ years in the SHU in NY for assaulting staff, and weapon possesion. Also done time in Cook County Ill. So even when the c.o.s wanted to kill me I still had toilet paper.
@@Tripskullno offense, but, that's how the penal system and our "justice" system works here in America. They are intentional in breaking you or creating better criminals.
@@baloneysaucejohnson8747 absolutely. Recidivism is their goal. In the USA, rehabiitation is an error at best. You are meant tp pay for crimes in perpetuity. Even if you pay your debt to society, you are, and will always be a criminal. As such, a life-long felon, you no longer deserve a roof, employmen, or an education. But you should never suffer the indiguity of a background check mh it you buy a... gun from a guy off a cardboard table. Americans monumentally stupid and gas lit until a state of confusion. The churxh party is rifht wing, despises the poor, only believes those who can adford it deserve help, or Healthcare. Got a job? You no longer qualiify for help. Wait, how did you pass the background check?!?!
Who was holding you hostage like that? Was that a military prison? That was torture. How were you able to even communicate after being alone? Did everything seem very loud and strange once out of the cell?
Id like to make a note. Isolation comes in two forms. Locked and free. Either stuck in one small spot or off the grid alone in the wild.
I did the latter and let me tell you. A week alone in the woods is good for your soul.
If its to be studied. Why not provide a more suitable environment?
give me a cabin near a lake 100km from closest village and have someone refill my food and water during the time I sleep so I never get in contact and I will live there for the rest of my days and nothing on my mentality or behaviour will change. I was made for that life. Got to experience it once for 6 months without saying a single word or seeing a single person and I will cherish every second of it for the rest of my days
A dream come true
So where is the part when she went insane? It`s more likely she came to realization that this world and people are insane.
She was tortured by the scientist. Why? She was a victim when she was provided the books on sadistic behaviors. #MKUltra
I'm not insane at all. I'm a very deeply closet insane person.
@@finished6267 i miss Norm
The definition of insane is when he consider himself sane and others are considered insane
The sheer amount of stupidity leaking from your comment is palpable
Being isolated is such an intimate experience - to have cameras & mics seems so invasive, then to remove music…It seems she was the subject of their experiment.
Chronic Vitamin D Deficiency causes mood changes accompanied by overwhelming feelings of sadness, and hopelessness! Genius idea...
For some reasson it makes me think of emotionally neglected children and the hard to describe emptiness they feel inside.
I was just about to comment this when I saw your comment, I had a similar experience as a child that lasted a little over 2 years and ever since I never felt connected to “here”, it’s such an endless void of something that can’t be described, and although it isn’t necessarily negative, it feels like infinity ♾️ is an entity that is always around you. I haven’t been able to integrate it completely and Idk if I ever will, but there is something that words can’t describe.
i feel like this experiment is a bit skewed as she was mentally unwell even before the experiment
show me any member of society that isnt unwell...if your alive..your mentally ill....
So you knew her personally?
@@caseyjg1able There is a quote that says she hated her life already before the experiment, no need to get witty
@@TheUrantia001 I think some people would disagree with you.
Only a mental unwell person would voluntarily isolate themselves in an underground cave in the first place
Being a infj 43 year old male I've spent many years alone since my divorce. I couldn't imagine no music. No movies no day or night hell no clock is even okay. But I'd die without my music for real music saves lives. But I do know the 6 almost 7 years I've sit in my house alone only being around people at work and even then I work alone. It's taken a toll on me and changed my perspective and way I see this world. So I can not imagine what this women went through. Rip may God be with you
I spend a lot of time alone, but I have the internet, music, a couple guitars, the radio, books, and a phone if I ever want to actually talk to a human being. Sometimes I go for a week and the only conversation in person is, "Paper or plastic?" I don't mind too much but I would be lying if I said I wasn't lonely. It has been increasingly difficult for me to find likeminded people at my age of 60, plus I've had some friends die over the last couple years and some with major health problems that don't permit them to get out and about, but I still visit sometimes. 111 days isn't very long but I think I would have been messed up without all the distractions I have now.
So you aren’t a an INFJ lol. People really need to stop believing what they read on the internet about personality types.
what does that mean@@LadyVenVen
@@LadyVenVenfr. If they want to know more, they should just study psychology
We never chose life.
When we close our eyes at night, it is a return to the darkness. Comforting.
It is the waking up I hate.
Scientist are also just straight up not allowed to do this anymore, this would never get approved past the moral guidelines the APA has now
guess it depends on your definition of isolation. I consider it to mean lack of contact from other people. This goes more into total depravation
For someone who enjoys being alone mostly, the definition fits.
@@nepsyasudra3262 well my point is this is more than being alone this is being without even natural light, clocks, etc.
I practice emotional isolation; it's like choosing something you have no choice in. My life has always been a pattern of punishment for sharing my thoughts and feelings so I just learned to stop. Maybe that's what I use internet comment sections for, to let out what I refuse to share with so-called friends and so-called family.
@@Icemario87so-called friends...
Starting to consider that I'd be better off replacing them with AI
Yes I could easily do isolation. This is extreme sensory deprivation. Totally different
I've developed a very similar internal sentiment toward social structures and other people in my self-imposed isolation over my development, I'm autistic and my difficulty in communicating with most people has lead to my love of my own studies and creations but a negative sentiment towards other's ways of being.
Indeed ! It is the exact same 4 me😊
I feel the same but there is still a longing to belong with the other
For me instead of negative it is just over sensitized. I wish I could behave and act more social to have more friends. I think both worlds are nice though. The internal world and sense and the external which fuels the internal.
Sounds like a retreat into narcissism or arrogance.
@@ianyoung6706 probably, i use narcissism as a defence mechanism a lot unfortunately, i am not a narcissistic personality as i'm capable of accepting criticism and punishment even if i never FEEL responsible, i'm somewhat a borderline psychopath in my opinion, i don't feel actively malicious towards anyone or any group, i just find it easy to feel stressed.
you can get to the detachment stage by just staying in your room all day every day scrolling reddit and youtube as a disabled person
What she was feeling in the end was dissociation or depersonalization. It's common with people with severe depression, social alienation , anxiety etc.
I'd just like to say that you're never without music as long as you can sing.
When I was arrested and thereby isolated (that's how it works here in Sweden), I managed the nothingness much better by singing way more than half of my time awake.
So the thesis of the study became:
"What happens to a woman locked in a cave and berated by her husband when not doing her chores."
based
Why would she be sent in with the books of sadistic behaviors. I am wondering what the scientist intended to accomplish by providing the book of torture and yelling at her. Overall, the experiment was torture.
I think they were just assholes
That was her sketch of the situation, not the real scenario.
She was in isolation but was receiving phone calls? 🤔
Yeah same thought.
She was in fact a lab rat, prisoner and slave to her tasks.
I think if her husband hadn't berated her and showed compassion he would have set in motion something better, being in isolation like that one becomes super susceptible to stimuly.
Someone tell the Dwarf Fortress players - she literally Cave Adapted.
I grew up alone with no family or friends and I have sort of come to thrive in solitude.
Being around others is deeply uncomfortable and I’ve never felt lonely a day in my life.
A real lonely person can feel alone in a crowd.
I see you. A crowd doesn’t even seem real anymore. Yet one person does.
It’s a combination of her expanded perspective on the world, and her age. She saw what 99.9% people don’t… those things change you. She was clearly well functioning, any allegations of insanity or mental damage are completely missing the truth.
She already felt that she was wasting her life… and in there, she gained a perspective on reality free from society’s programming. She was truly free (mentally) in that cave as she marked. No worry about rent, no hassle of job, no concern on food, no stress about the future… that’s the special part not the cave. She clearly wasn’t one to be bothered by lack of social interaction.
So when she came out, seeing the world stripped of all biases we constantly drown ourselves in like drugs… she couldn’t find any peace in knowing how her life had been. It probably would’ve helped if she had someone who understood her, if she could communicate… but as we all have found out given the recent “loneliness epidemic” - that’s easier said than done.
There’s a similar effect when you visit space or moon, and see the Earth as tiny as it is.
Though, that one is more positive. After all you’re one of the top humans in history, successful and IN SPACE.
Was there no mental health support at the end of the experiment?
I'm not even sure anyone would know where to start.
mental help isnt a magical cure all that fixes everything, it helps but it doesn’t rid of problems.
Space travel wouldn't be extreme isolation. For one thing you'd have access to all sorts of entertainment and activities so it wouldn't be challenging even if it was still _social_ isolation, secondly people wouldn't even be socially isolated. There would be a whole crew, and probably a huge one of unprecedented number and diversity.
The problems only really occur when there is a combination of sensory deprivation, activity deprivation, and social deprivation (if that is even considered separate, since it's really just another form of activity deprivation).
I spend 1 month in isolation at age 15 .. Then 5 months at age 16. 4 more months age 17. Then 3 months age 18. Age 26 I spent 3 months in isolation. Then 6 months age 28. And another 3 months at 28 again. In addition to 10 years locked up in State then Federal prison. I believe it did effect me in some way. I don't let go easily and have difficulty detaching emotionally. I would not wish it on anyone.
God bless your heart. I hope you can overcome your past.
111 days of isolation.
My Life: That's cute...
Thank You, I did not expect the end which I will not share. A video worth watching in full. What scientist already know is we are social creatures and our mental health easily leaves a stable state after extended isolation and limited communications which may have been turse and cold so as to minimize the social benefit to her.
Isolation is great. It can be. This is extreme isolation-literally burying someone alive. There's a huge gap. Nothing great has ever came from extremes (extreme statement!)
Well I've been in similar isolation, not quite as bad- but still. Imagine when you have been through an isolation like this and you have to hear the media talk about how bad COVID19 isolation was when no one cared or noticed your isolation
Isolation can be beautiful. You are the captain of your own mind. Stepping away from "society" and simply surviving. The most dangerous thing is that if you can master this you wish not to return.
I go through isolation every single day. Live alone for years. It's actually no big deal. Society is overrated.
Have you met the people in the air yet?
Her goodbye to the cave was bizarrely beautiful
Working customer service has made me crave isolation.
I'm happier as far from messy and annoying humans as possible.
@@murderedcarrot9684 Humans are irritating. I'm glad that you've found comfort. What's your job now?
@@freshtoast3879 box store employee lol. You can’t escape the labour trap.
@@murderedcarrot9684 You can always start a business. There is always a way to escape the labour trap.
@@lad4830 been working on some simple games for a hand made penny arcade.
My periods are extremely unreliable, so that would definitely mess me up more.
Also, I know that this would make me go gibbering mad in short order; I can't live year-round in northern Alaska despite my love for the region because even with UV lighting for the winter and careful darkness management in the summer to mimic a proper day/night cycle, I start to lose it after awhile.
Without a fairly normal circadian cycle my sanity goes out the window. It wouldn't be the isolation that would get to me first.
I spent years trying to get my insomnia under control. I would often go 48 hours without sleep. At one point I was on lithium, an antidepressant and Ambien. I managed to maintain a regular sleep schedule for about 8 years and sleeping 7-8 hours every night, but lately the staying up and early morning waking have been creeping back up on me. My last two doctors won't prescribe Ambien to me and that was the only thing that really worked. I wouldn't take it every night, but I would use it to get back into a regular sleep pattern then not take it when I was back on schedule. Melatonin helps a lot but like Ambien it's best not to take it every night. Wanting to sleep and not being able to is such a miserable feeling.
She became, I am, the games and distractions were over. People forget that we have always been what we are becoming.
lonely becomes alone, a reason why babies stop crying eventually when they realize no one will come for them, long before they begin starving and fatiguing to death
Sometimes when you get lost and are alone you are forced to face the worst thing in existence...
Sometimes you lose the fight.
Some things you lose when you fight can never be replaced.
That Junji Ito-esque thumbnail though.
Indeed😅
It definitely got me to click
I was arrested in 2019. I did a year behind the door in county. The jail was breaking the law with what they did to me but did not care. About halfway through I really started losing my mind. I remember a drain fly flew into my room and I was terrified to crush the only company I had.
Little Thing.
Probably seasonal depression. Everyone living near the Arctic Circle gets it every year, some more than others. Growing up in Alaska, which has a very high suicide rate, there weeks would go by where you might only see a sliver of sunlight around noon on your face. Long periods of cold and dark, like living in a cave, can dramatically affect a person's personality for months, years, or a lifetime. I found solace in reading also, and using my imagination.
Stavation and Isolation are great pathways to never be alone
I spent a lot of time isolated as a kid. I remember when I went back to school after a period I forgot how to interact. Like when you look at your friend and feel that spark when something is funny or interesting to both of you. I forgot how to do that. Was extremely depressed, developed addiction, attempted suicide. I tried acid when I was 19 and it came back in that trip. I noticed myself laughing and enjoying myself with my friends in a way I haven’t done since I was 8 or so. Now I feel like I’ve made it all the way back but I don’t wish that upon anyone. That’s not even from extreme isolation like some of these other cases, that was just a majority of my time being isolated and it led to that. I couldn’t imagine being locked in solitary for an extended period of time.
How old are you now?
when you become unplugged from social expectations for an extended period of time you begin to form your own thoughts
Fr. She found reality in that cave, and afterwards saw the matrix for what it was.
My biggest curiosity is why she didn't go back to the wilderness instead of doing what she did.
Love your content! Don't stop posting!
Thank you! Will do!
Seems to me she was vibing in the cave. She hated the scientist, but she loved the cave. When she returned to society, she realized how mundane and unimportant the daily rigamarole truly is. She yearned for the freedom of the cave. The ability to exist free of responsibility. This is further proven by how she began to denounce her testing in the cave. She wished to simply exist without any task. Despite being one of the only things she was responsible for, it had become as infuriating as any other 9-5 by comparison. Her molehills became mountains. She slowly lost her ability to deal with the bullshit society puts the average person through on a daily basis. Who needs 13 reasons when we live in a society?
*00:35*
For non-US-American audience :: 48.5 degrees FAHRENHEIT = 8.9 degrees CELCIUS
Pretty cold, ain't it?
Sounds like unnecessary torture. The guy in 1961 had music and there's no good reason to think music can't be enjoyed on a long space ride like going to Mars. That guy was dumb to say her suicide had nothing to do with her isolation. He probably is very similar to Forrest Gump in at least a few ways!
Isolation makes you realize how insane humanity is to be doing the same routines over and over endlessly living in a slow mundane reality perfectly appeased by some form of indulgence that gets them through the week I can imagine in the cave she found a true hero’s journey within only to re enter society seeing to everyone else they were still just doing the same shit different day.
Researchers are scared because lots of people would come to realize the bs within society.
For those of you who don't want to hear him call her Voronic for 12 minutes.
She basically went into the cave. Had weird sleep schedules.
When she came out, she was disappointed by the world and the rat race, having been away from it for some time.
She overdosed on barbiturates in her car because she ended up realizing life is better in a cave than in society.
I used to be outgoing, but I prefer to be alone now
WHY would they want to study it anymore??? It's well known it causes major psychological damage!
She spent time in her actual home (nature) when returning to society she had seen it for what it is!
I have spent 29 years somewhat isolated. Getting outcasted from every group. Spending an entire lifetime in the matrix. Never gaining positive energy from people only negative energy. But I am still here. I’ve also gone from being super empathic to psychopathic. It’s been an incredible life.
Lol, there was a dude stuck in the middle of the ocean on a small raft for over a year. 111 days in comfort is a breeze
I'm always alone in my room at Res....people wrote exams and went home for winter holidays, and ill be here on my own the whole time. Once you taste isolation, it's over, you won't want to be with people anymore....Sometimes it's a little hard, but most of the times it beautiful
Isolation is a horrible torture that doesn't have positive results. We use it often on people as a society.
I've been "alone" for 8 years now. it's awesome. No friends and playing video games, not leaving the house is great. Now that i'm finally doing stuff again it's been awful.
0:15 My curiosity has been peaked, so what is the actual world record?
That’s the best place to be alone by yourself no outside stimulation that’s peace at it’s finest no lie on my prison stint I loved being in hole never had a bad day be myself
self isolating and still trying to get away from the occasional neanderthal encounter for the last decade, send me to mars i guess.
the best way to probably study this would be to put a very young child into isolation that hasn't experienced any of the world. but that would be absolutely horrible and inhumane
There are rooms that are totally soundproof. I suggest also to spend time in one of those. The body will begin to really upon itself as in the Floating tank. Your senses will become hyper-sensitive. You will hear the earth groan, as well as the inner sounds your body already makes. Again, you will face your ego. Find testimonies of people who have been in soundproof rooms. Before going into the Floating tank and the soundproof rooms, study philosophy first. You will see where the philosophers got their ideas from. Yes, they isolated themselves.
Sounds like a very enlightening experience.
I don't remember when i was talking to someone else than myself and i'm so happy about it, i feel lonely only if i'm tired what is weird.
People in prison. "those are rookie numbers."
In prison, they force you to keep a routine exactly for that purpose: to prevent you from going insane.
Thats why solitary confinement is such a cruel punishment. But you still keep a sense of day, night, food etc.
This woman started sleeping for 30 hours in one go and stood awake for 50. Thats beyond cruel punishment. Thats insanity.
@datguy6745 maybe the sleep was really good. She was alone in a cave afterall
With enough time alone, anyone would come to the same conclusions. She probably became misanthropic and enlightened.
Misanthropy does not equal enlightenment. It’s easy to think or feel badly towards others and it doesn’t make anyone special.
Left with self reflection only interrupted by mundane data collection she realised she had no idea what life was about and learnt that to find out what life was about she had to be honest with herself. Unfortunately she may have been honest with herself but not honest enough to face the reality of honesty or it would have set her free that she would not have killed herself.
One question. If she had equipment to monitor her, wouldn't it be correct to say that she was institutionalized?
Ahhhhhhh! Found Hindu/budhist yogis, they say they've done more time than the subjects of these so called experiments.
Yes, but they weren't constantly pestered with experimental samples and data
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Sounds like a good time to me.
I know. It sounds like paradise.
And what hell it must be to come back to *this*.
@@panwu6602 while not this extreme, I have been isolating myself from people all my life. I feel, what was described here, what she felt when she came back. There is this deep seated fundamental disconnect between me and other people that cannot be bridged. It is some sort of hell. Worse even. It is limbo.
@@Yggdra666 I think it's healthy to be disconnected from sick society. I know I am.
@@panwu6602 I agree. I have no desire to become integrated into this.
@@Yggdra666 Funniest part is when these freaks think it's some sort of punishment to be separated from them when in reality it's a reward.
For me it was Convid that made me finally admit that I actually hate society, heh.
I wonder what schizoids think of this. Being alone for them is bliss... till it is not.
Also that "loss of emotion" is one of their characteristics.
Sad you didn't use the actual pictures of examples you described, but AI generated photos and you cited no sources for the information used. I feel like very little is actually said in this video, it could have been shorter, or more information could have been added.
agreed
I moved to a small town roughly 10 years ago. I didnt know many people outside of work. When Covid hit i was basically alone for 8 months before returning to work. The weird sleep cycles are absolutely a thing but overall it wasnt that bad.
Its not at all what this lady went through i know. All im saying, if there HAD to be a time to be isolated? A time when i had an endless supply of video games, audiobooks, and easy access to communication was PRETTY lucky.
The ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey where astronaut Dave Bowman is placed in isolation. Or Vonnegut's time on the planet Trafalmador. Interesting to see it for reals.
The unintentional outcome/effect on this women is that she emerged from the cave having developed a stoic mindset that is not compatible with a womens id/ego. I'd summise that the husband is correct in that the experiment contributed to her choice of that last lonely drive.
The cave experiment had more components than isolation. She also couldn't have a computer or other entertainment devices, and was subject to monitoring and restrictions on hygiene, which would be stressful to me. We wouldn't need that in a trip across the solar system, unless they wanted to make it an invasive experiment too. I'd prefer to be alone on such a trip because I don't trust people, who might be more severely affected by confined space.
If we had to go to mars, we would have clocks, things to read and entertain, etc… WTF is the purpose of the experiment involving denial of info on time and sensory deprivation?
where is everybody....?
The problem indeed was probably based on her sex since women are wired primarily for family, community, relationship, whereas men are default wired for roaming, rootlessness, and solitude.
Literally study me, then again the point is to discover adverse effects.
Me personally am a non-activity type of person and I am also sort of non-social and this means that usually I would just mainly stay inside and when I am in public or outside somewhere I barely really like to talk to people and just as in the video I feel very disconnected to the environment that I am usually in, for example school is one thing that I feel very disconnected to and I don't really like to talk to people in school, because I feel isolated there and I am just not naturally able to become comfortable with being there, and the only time that I am naturally and genuinely comfortable and content is when I come home, because when I come home I have no one to talk to, and its kind of because 1. I am always in school everyday, and I don't like to talk to people there 2. when I come home I am comfortable, because I have no one to talk to, because my brain has gotten used to not wanting to talk to people in my usual environment, so that when I'm in my less usual environment, my brain becomes comfortable with not talking to anyone at all, because there is no one around me. And Congratulations if you understood that, and congratulations if you even read the whole thing. But anyways that is just something relative to this video topic, and just sharing how I think I can kind of relate to this video.
It’s funny, because when you mentioned that there were camera in this experiment, and not in the one prior, my first thought was “they’re probably doing dirty things while watching her”.
Here is a suggestion. Before doing the isolation experiment, recognize the chemical processes of the human body. First, experience the Floating tanks. Reason, when isolated without any external stimuli, the body will go within. The body will communicate with itself on subtle levels. The body will naturally hallucinate. You face your ego. Find testimonies of people who have had Floating tank experience. (Next message)
Why must you be surrounded yet still feel alone; still feel unseen in plain sight? I feel you.