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- This video introduces the Y-DNA of the people who built Stonehenge. They suddenly disappear after 3000 BC. The video also introduces the Y-DNA of the people who supposedly exterminated them. It also maps the geographic features of the British Isles from the Ice Age to 6000 BC.
00:19 A brief introduction to Stonehenge
01:55 Characteristics of Stonehenge structures
03:47 Sources of stones used in structures
06:52 Geographical characteristics of the British Isles between the LGM and 6000 BC
09:56 The spread of Neolithic agriculture and the people who built Stonehenge
13:05 Bronze Age spread of war and the bottleneck of Y-chromosome DNA
#stonehenge #ancientstory #ancienthistory #bronzeage #bronzeagecomics
Neither the bell-beakers or EEF people looked like the neanderthal in the thumbnail, bud.
yeahhhhhh...hahahahhahahahaha ouch! Dudes, this video and this channel is STUPID but...its funny...LOL
I am not sure that Neanderthal looked like that either, they have such a small sample size so a guess become a fact nowadays.
Totally these representations of our ancestors as grotesque ape-caveman hybrids has always been a mockery to dismantle european identity and heritage even more
@@Leny159 kind of like cheddar man's depiction in that aspect.
Looks like one of those Zulu Neanderthals.
There’s some research suggesting that the Steppe people brought with them an unwelcome visitor - yersinia pestis, i.e., the plague. The neolithic farmers in Britain (or neolithic Europeans) had very little or no resistance to the plague. To many Steppe folks, the villages in Britain they came across may have been empty, their inhabitants already dead of the plague. The rest of them may have been not able to offer armed resistance. Who knows, maybe the folklore myths and legends telling of the Folk, Sidhe, elfs, fairies, brownies, etc. people who used to live in the lands of humans before they went away, leaving only their monuments behind, may have roots in these initial encounters.
The yersinia pestis plague was kind of sexist then as it killed the neolithic males but did not touch the females!?🙃
That was precisely my theory. Dwarves are skilled metal workers that built the monuments. Trolls are mountain cave dwellers, that practice cannibalism, use crude tools, dont venture out during the day, and occasionally snatch kids. Dwarves are the Neolithic Europeans. Trolls are the last of European hunter-gatherers. They lived in isolated forests and caves, pushed out of more fertile land by the farmers. They practiced cannibalism, either out of necessity, or for ritual purposes. They used crude stone and bone tools. They raided farmer towns at night. They may have even snatched kids to replace low population numbers, as has been attested to happen in low population societies.
Probably brought all kinds of diseases with them as they introduced the modern horse to the rest of the world. They ate horse meat and drank horse milk. So something similar to the effect of smallpox on the native Americans probably happened in ancient Britain! I think they had cattle by then in Britain but I think horses, the modern variety, were new to Britain!
If this theory is true, the mtDNA would have been affected as well. Women also die in a plague and a plague that could have resulted in such a drastic replacement of the men, would have done the same drastic replacement of women. This was not found in the mtDNA
@@jackattack2608 excellent point, I’d forgotten that... so was this the beaker folk/corded ware coming in or is it the later horse people? Its too early for the yamnaya horse lot isn’t it?
R1B people have committed genocides on all continents except the South pole
master rac..
@свевский The irony is that you wrote your name in Slavic script, and your beliefs are Germanic. This symbol was present in Neolithic Britain when there were no r1b Celts and is one of the oldest European symbols. it is part of the identity of the ancient Europeans and proof that people always saw some sanctity in the number 3.
@свевский Europe has been divided for a long time. Look at how the Slavs were treated. By calling this ancient symbol Celtic you are supporting the Germanic point of view. He is absolutely rather Slavic. Someone will call I1 Scandinavian Germanic and you can see the god Odin (number one in Russian), the Kraken (limbed creature in Serbian), Swedish is called Svenska and *ska is a Slavic possessive adjective. We Slavs are what the Indians were in America, and that is why I am ashamed of every Slav who propagates a Germanic imposed version of history. I can talk about this topic for days.
@свевский The Greeks called the people who lived north of them Tribals because the Greeks always pronounced the sound "v" as "b". It means 3 waves (tri val) and it has been their symbol since prehistoric times, visible on archeological findings from prehistoric times to the Middle Ages, when the same symbol is visible on royal tombs and on folk costumes. When the Germans bombed Belgrade in 1941, they first destroyed the national library. If you want to conquer a people, destroy their past
@свевский Interesting discussion between you and Tribal. Would've liked to read more, especially about the Slavic part. As for destroying libraries, you know that genocide includes the annihilation of cultures, so cultural repositories are logical targets, n'est-ce pas? But of course, us civilized societies wouldn't do that would we? Accidents maybe? My eye. Taliban, ISIS, Mao et al. aren't the only guilty parties when you realize the amount of destruction in the Middle East (Syria, Iraq), Yemen and beyond, caused by American bombs, whether dropped by the US or its allies. The bombs are just for foreigners who don't count anyway. The home markets, in US and UK for example, get their cultural erasure through budget cuts defunding and decommissioning libraries.
The oldest post-glacial human remains so far discovered in England ,were found in Gough`s cave in Somerset and dated to be15,000 years old rather than 12,000. Also, I`m finding the idea of mounted bell-beaker warriors mowing down the locals with their bronze swords to be a bit fanciful (more wild west than Wessex !)
WELL THE ONLY WAY TO EXPLAINED THE DNA STUDY WHY ONLY FEMALE GENETIC OF THE NEOLITHIC PEOPLE ARE LEFT IN MODERN UK PEOPLE ARE...A VERY VIOLENT INVASION. YOU CANT SUDDENLY LOOSE ALL YOUR MALE POPULATION BECAUSE OF PLAGUE OR SOME ACCIDENT LOL. THAT'S HOW ANCIENT WARFARE USED TO BE, KILL ALL THE MEN AND TAKE ALL THE WOMEN AS SALVE OR WIVES. SO YEH, ALL THE MALE POPULATION WERE KILL OR SACRIFICE TO THEIR GODS JUST LIKE THE CELTS DID DURING BELTANE CELEBRATION WHERE THEY PUT A HUMAN INSIDE A WICKER MAN AND BURN IT, OR HIT THEIR HEAD WITH AXES AND CHUCKED THE BODY IN A SACRED BOGS LIKE IN IRELAND. AND THEN THEY PUCK THE LOCAL WOMEN LOL.
in 3300bc, the whole world WAS the wild west and Wessex wasn't Wessex until the Saxons showed up, thousands of years later.
We know that Neolithic People also exterminated each other. Eg. Talheim Mass Graves etc...We also know that some inbreeding happened and we know about the Yersinia Pestis Plague plus Climate Change. So laying it all in front of the feet of R1b Men is a stretch.
Consider the timeframe of the Global deluge.....
If we were "completely exterminated" we wouldn't still be here. I wouldn't be typing this.
I2-M284(Native to Britain, Ireland >10kya) -L1195(survived and expanded during Neolithic) -L126(expanded form s Scotland in late Bronze Age) -Y4142(expanded with the fall of Rome).
This (my) paternal line is also by far the most populous today of the I2 lines that descend from the British/Irish Neolithic.
L161, L38(my mother's ydna), being the other predominant ones that reached the Isles at least by the early Neolithic, and later survived the Bell Beaker "invasion".
The Haplogroups are Patrilineal or Matrilineal lineages but it does not mean that you have the original genetic load, from this logic the R1b in Africa should be Europoid, which they are not phenotypically and genetically, only 10% survive after the invasion, that means that in the best case you will have 10% of the original DNA the other 90% was lost
Now yes, you can be a direct descendant from both the maternal and paternal sides, although the native term is a relative concept since we all come from other parts
@@eltecnico9541 Yea I don't disagree, ya have to differentiate autosomal DNA from mt/ydna. It's just annoying and misleading the way "complete replacement" is repeated over and over when there are unbroken direct lines of descent still in existence.
And yes "native" is a relative term of course.
My terminal Y is also downstream in I-M284/I-L1195/I-L126. Clearly, your and my paternal lines were not killed off or replaced by any immigrating R-1b group like the Borg Beakers...
@@jimmalone1011 Malone! Our paternal Gpa was the same guy up until about 700. Your line seems to have moved to Ireland sometime after that, highest density today around co Claire (at least from the limited data as always). Mine I think stopped in Cumbria as that's where Jacksons are densest.
Av-eh-bury ?
I know some English place names can be a bit difficult like Worcestershire, and maybe Esher or Slough.
But seriously, Avebury is one of the easy ones and should be instantly recognisable to anyone with a passing interest in neolithic sites.
its an AI generated voice chill.
And as for Welsh as in Preselli. If it is US trained AI it will stress words differently from UK. As long as we know what is meant though, communication has taken place.
You cant even tell its an ai voice over?
Horrendous computer voice 😊
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Who killed? Well, the descendants killed also the natives of the Americans, Africans and Australians. Nothing changed since the barbarian Yamnaya Spread.
People of Magog as in the biblical and Quranic prophecy. So not that surprising!
ah yes because the latter is all peace love and harmony.
@@TmanRock9 there is historical reference for this... specifically for the name and tribe of Magog as they called themselves.....forget the scripture anyways....
@@lifa7660 this doesn’t change my point.
Cope and seethe
The people who made Stonehenge did not do so because they had the necessary technology. They really, really WANTED to. Whether they were inspired, compelled or coerced is more of a mystery. The point is that, because they Really Wanted to build it, they dedicated a lot of time and effort into creating the technology, methods and societal organization for the purpose. The invading population must have been equally motivated to expand and enhance the original structure. Lacking this motivational imperative, they perhaps would not have been able to dominate the original society who first created the site. One thing in particular puzzles me. Several of the largest stone structures have been toppled and not rebuilt. How? Why? It's very difficult to topple an 80 ton saracen and its lintels on purpose and even more unlikely to just accidentally knock it down. 😯 "Oops! Sorry about that. My bad." It took quite a bit of effort and motive to do so. Was it being redesigned and remodeled, only to be abandoned for whatever reason? Was it cultural vandalism intended to repress and dominate the people who erected them. 🤔 I don't know.
Science fiction?
@@yannickille4049 🤔 Umm, ..What do you mean?
Good point👍 Neolithic oneupmanship. They may have tried to "redesign" Stonehenge into something more familiar or sacred to them except these invading peoples may have lacked the technological level of expertise the natives had
Destroyed by the incomers. It's a theme in human history.
@@dougselby7592 They call it "diversity " these days. 😐
My DNA is I2a1b m-423)) Who killed my relatives?
Where did you come from? Place region?
@@srbisunasledniciilira.alba7494 Ufa city
R1b has a proven predatory and genocidal nature, it has nothing to do with IQ. It is also of Mongoloid origin, let's say, the first, undocumented arrival of Mongols in history to Europe.
Whom, when in doubt use whom. You'll sound smarter
When you find out you should demand reparations! 😅😅😅
The problem with 'the Y chromosome Bottleneck' being related to accelerated levels of warfare in response to the increased use of copper and bronze weapons is that, as shown on the graph, the significant reduction in the presence of the Y chromosome appears across all regions of the populated globe simultaneously, whereas the transition between the neolithic and the copper/early bronze age did not occur simultaneously across the global human population and, conversely, spread in a slow and often sporadic manner through the various regions of the world. This would indicate that, if 'the Y chromosome Bottleneck' is indeed verifiable fact, the cause would have to be global in scope and apparently incredibly rapid in the manifestation of its effects, effects that would, for some as yet unknown reason, specifically and negatively impact male homosapiens.
After all, if it were due to warfare we would expect to find the graves of individuals, with Y chromosomes, who had fought and died in the warfare. It seems to me that 'the Y chromosome Bottleneck', if true, would more likely be related to the generative process of pregnancy and birth, as the graph seems to indicate not that more men were dying, but rather that less males were being born. What could cause this I have no idea although, as i have suggested, whatever it was must have been global in its scope and therefore, possibly, related to some environmental change.
HOW GLOBAL? AS FAR AS I KNOW THESE PATTERNS ONLY OCCURRED IN WESTERN EUROPE AND SOME PART OF CENTRAL EUROPE WERE THE BELL BEAKER PEOPLE EXIST. IT DOESN'T HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE EAST WHERE MORE ADVANCED CULTURE WERE ALREADY EXIST.
My reading of that graph leads me to conclude that the decrease in the Y chromosome was indeed global in scope. It seems starkly apparent from the data depicted on the graph.@@wewenang5167
They are still here in tiny numbers - known as dark Irish or dark Welsh - dark curly hair, with darker, leathery skin, swarthy (more body hair) and generally smaller as well.... still here! I’ll bet there’s a lot of those genes in Irish traveller communities - people think they’re Romany, but Irish and Romany gypsies don’t actually mix that much! Also loads of gingers among Irish travellers - it’s a very mixed population group! Particularly in Ireland...
Nono they're the 'Celts' (Descended from the Beaker people) not the Neolithic people
Also we don't have leathery skin lmao
@@user-jt3zv2jc7u Lol Celts? Oh dear - nobody is Celtic before the 18th century and yet virtually everybody is since 😳
@@dannyboywhaa3146 I know, hence the quotation marks...
@@user-jt3zv2jc7u lol I preferred the term Beaker people... 😊
Maybe R1b was more popular with the girls. Horses, cool stuff... eventually R1b dominates the gene pool.
He wasn't exactly more popular with the girls. In general, invasion/conquest/colonization processes end up with the death of a considerable part of the male population in battle and many times the remainder ends up being enslaved or simply subordinated. In general, the invaders impose their culture, which becomes dominant, and in this way impose beauty standards and offer a form of social advancement for women from the dominated population if they marry them. This is obviously after a few rounds of barbarism with a lot of sexual violence, including kidnapping, enslavement of native women and forced marriages. This is how the genes of colonizing men pass on and subaltern men don't, while the mitochondrial DNA of subaltern women passes on. When we look at the ganomic data in the Americas, we clearly see that the Y chromosomes are in general R1a and R1b while the mitochondrial DNA samples have a considerable proportion of native or African genes, mainly in Latin American countries and in the southern United States. This came about through a brutal process of patriarchal colonialism, which involved genocide, enslavement and overt sexual violence. It is a behavior very similar to chimpanzees, who always try to monopolize harens and subordinate or kill other males. This generally does not occur in bonobo populations. The good news is that we as a species are adaptive and intelligent enough to start down the second path (and even if we are inclined towards the first, nothing genetic engineering can't solve).
Another issue is about the language: in general, Indo-European scholars always consider that European languages are direct derivations of Proto-Indu-European, ignoring influences from the Old European substrate. However, knowing what we know about the Americas, most likely the old European mothers passed on the language and culture of their ancient peoples to their children. Without a strong state with a formal education that promotes a national language, it is very difficult that considerable parts of the Old European language and cultures did not survive through a process of creolization. and iron age would have differed precisely because of regional maternal substratum differences. So in a sense there would be continuities between ancient pre-Indo-European and post-invasion cultures. Not to mention that a good part of the material culture of that time was transmitted by diffusion and not by migration. Bell bakers emerged from sahel ceramics that spread to the Iberian peninsula, being adopted by the population of western Europe. Nothing prevents more cultural exchanges such as myths and other knowledge. This sort of thing even happened later: the Phoenician alphabet spread across the Mediterranean and then across Europe, changing in the process. In the north, the runic alphabet was derived from this. And there are certain similarities in myths that seem very coincidental too, but proving this is extremely difficult.
@@ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031 My guess is the builders and the usurpers were both R1b. One reason they can't find much evidence of Viking raiders... they were the same R1b haplgroup as the victims.
Why does the illustration of the builder of Stonehenge look less than human?
Can you do an episode on Bacho kiro, ust-ishim, etc and them being closer to eastern groups?
Extremely interesting !
I'm not sure if anyone killed them?
The beaker peoples or corded ware peoples, have been thought to have inadvertantly brought the bubonic plague from the pontic steppes. This accounted for mass population die off in countries that border the Baltic sea. After all, they brought domesticated animals with them that the neolithic people had never seen before, cows, dogs, sheep pigs and horses. Possible a few of these had fleas.
If these people then moved on to the British isles it may account for why there was no one there or that there was, but ,ike the Germanic tribes, they died of plague quickly.
After they said that: the first people who set foot
In Europe they were black and after tens of thousands of years of surviving in Europe of the Ice Age, they still remained black (if you don’tbellive me search Chendarman)because they took all their vitamin D, the meat they ate (in 2017 they said that light skin, far from being an adaptation to the cold, rejects heat), I knew that one day they would tell us that white Caucasians came to Europe as a horde of savages who exterminated the population native of the continent, it was just a mater of time.What better way to justify the fact that Europeans are now slowly but surely being replaced by African emigrants (the former in demographic decline and the others in a real demographic explosion), than to say that in fact the native population of white Europe are black, they are the real invaders?
If you don't believe me, in 2021, after geneticists said that today's Europeans have nothing to do with the inhabitants of the continent of 5000 years ago, they said that 20000 years ago some of those black hunter-gatherers returned to Africa, current emigrants are their descendants.
This timeframe of 3000BC fits with the global flood (Noah's) timeframe. This would account for the overwhelmingly dominant I2 all over Europe being largely wiped out and the later post flood R1a and R1b steppe people resettling the European theater afterwards. The Global flood is universally recorded in nearly all cultures including Native Americans..
There are not Indo European( s). It is noncence from the genetic point of view. Whom are you calling Indo European? Those who were from Yamnaya Culture, therefore, from Pontiac (East) Steps who invaded Europe and killed old Mesolithic European men ? Or you would call Aryans Indo European who left Europe to escape instinction from wild hords. They
met on the way Slavs R1a and went to Iranian Plato, India even far East? Whom are you calling Indo European?
I'm definitely "Bell Beaker" but we have no family records of doing in the Flintstones.
Honest.
The same happened in Spain. The lost of the Y cromosome of the original males.
But they adopted local culture and language, tartessian, iberian, basque, etc.
Nobody killed them. Only that there was a small natural advantage in the spread of the new haplogroup R. For example, those of haplogroup R had a 1-2% higher chance of having sons than those of haplogroup I.
There's a ~90% turnover in whole DNA. Not just haplogroup R.
hahaha sure, bro when R haplogroups came to Europe I haplogroup was almost whipped out.
Similar to most things in life, it was a combination of factors. Including skirmishes and conflicts where killing and take over occurred. As to how much is the question.
Nope, this group is still extreme among all the humans. See outside your home, you can try making a fight with them.
This is how hablo groups wipe out, read the history of European imperialism and killing of human races.
0:25 ' Av - ah- berry ' 😳
Avebury -pronounced AVE ( rhyming with 'wave') and BURY( rhyming with 'worry')
Based on archaeological evidence I don't think anybody knows who built the various stages of Stonehenge, from the first circular outer bank and inner ditch, through the second timber phase, the Q-R sequence, the enormous stone settings, with sarsens and bluestones, the avenue and the Y-Z holes. Any of these sequences might have been built by one tribal group with its own ideology or another, separate group. I think this is likely; and that Stonehenge symbolised the preoccupations of the people inhabiting the area at the time. Actually I believe the stone setting was designed by a father and his daughter, completed by the daughter after her father's death. The high likelihood is that the father's remains were sealed into the burial chamber at West Kennet; and I like to think the daughter was buried in the Cotswolds
Allegedly, "an ancient architectural object" built at the time of photographs. You yourself are not funny from "antiquity", a photo of the construction of which can be easily found on the Internet? 😁
And that migration map of R1b is not correct R1b L51 spread with Corded Ware along the Northern side of the Carpathians, Southern Poland, Czech Republic etc.
yes, again, another commenter has noticed the mistakes of this video. Man...who produced this stupid video shit. this is not research. LOL>
I am R1b L51, from Spain
Awesome video! (Though, coloring land in with blue is confusing? Better to use another shade of green or brown for land (e.g. during the parts show land during the LGM))
can't wait to see your analysis of the I1a2 movement
thank you....very much
I2 was also in Italy and all of Europe back to the upper paleolithic. Haplogroup I is the only native paternal haplogroup in Europe. The R1a and R1b Indo-European Steppe people displaced most of them. Now there the highest percentage only among the Bosnian Croats at 70% and a high percentage in Sardinia, Serbia, Croatia and Romania. Many Vikings were I2 and I1. Cheddar man was I2.
Using objects to follow the movement of celestial bodies and tying those into the seasons and times of the year and lengths of the Winter and summer solstice. Could be done with wooden sticks placed around in the right positions. What I'm saying is using construction to do what Stonehenge does was already something that was known. Stonehenge was a collective of the people in the area as kind of a centralized monument Temple cathedral calendar gathering place, burial ground. It is very impressive how they were able to get the stones moved from the distance that they had to be moved. We often downplay the skills, intelligence and abilities of our ancient ancestors because we can't figure out how they did it by hand.
Excellent video but I do find computer voices horrendous 😑
“The Wessex Culture” dominated Central and Western Europe as well as Southern England. It had direct trading links to the Alps of Switzerland.
What kills us? I imagine it would be a scenario we would be quite familiar with.
It's as simple as this, contrary to the image that Native ppl of the Americas, didn't go anywhere, and everyone came to the Americas, we had large long elaborate conoes made for speed and exploration. Native ppl packed up and went on an Island hopping vacation. We traveled to many islands. We liked some of the islands and stayed a while, it's as simple as that. That's why Native ancient Native DNA is all over the Carrabien Islands. That's right, the Americas first inhabitants, those tribes are the original ppl of all those Islands and beyond.
P S talking about Easter Island, not Stonehenge. It's as simple as that, ppl got around and were lots smarter than they think.
@@jasonborn867 read a science book on non Afro genetic groups, that would be a good start. The discovery of the Denivosons is very significant, there is no or next to none Denovisan DNA in Africa. It certainly is not in the general population of Africa and can't find a significant pattern. While Denisovan DNA is found in the Americas, Australia, New Zealand, Oceana. Opposed to OOA because don't wanna be connected to ppl who beat their chest bc they think a distinction makes them great, but don't know how to use it for the greater good. Ppl who have turned it into a mean spirited menacing tool to culture vulture mankind. A lot of good scientists don't buy it anymore. To many new ancient human fossils r being found, that don't seem to have anything to do with Africa. OOA has always been a theory, not a scientific fact. Don't know why you guys wanna be connected to all of mankind, you seem to have nothing but distain for them. Instead of celebrating their diversity and accomplishments, U hatefully try to steal their identity and place in history. Pitiful.
@@teresafernandez9849 You seem to lump certain people in one basket, and just because a person belongs to an ethnicity or race does not mean they should be negatively stereotyped. I honestly could care less WHO is the oldest population I just want evidence to establish their origin. I'm not African or Indian and my haplogroup is relatively new, so it doesn't matter to me which population is eldest or where they are from so long as there's strong evidence to establish a valid theory. I read many peer-reviewed scientific papers so I'm mostly up to date on current literature, but if you have evidence A00 is not the oldest living haplogroup, or that A00 does not originate in Africa I'm open to hearing the details. No pride here just the evidence, ma'am...
I know the answer to a simple question Who killed the people who built Stonehenge? but unfortunately my answer will not please the absolute majority and, first of all, the author of the video☝
Chat GPT is hard at work on youtube lol
Lol, there were many waves of invaders into the British Isles, but none rode horses! Chariots were not known in Europe at that time.
Not sure about chariots, but horses have been here since c.4000 B.C.
Why are they showing a Neanderthal in the thumbnail?
You do know that hominin footprints were found in Happisburgh, Norfolk, England, that were dated to be one million years old, don't you?
Stone henge was built in the 1950s
Thank you. I was wondering if anyone had the guts to say it. I actually saw some pictures about thirty years ago of the construction with truck's and tractor's placing the stone's. I was told it was for a tourist campaign to offset lost revenue from exporting the Islands industrial base.
What's real is Adams calendar in Africa.
Yup, and they hauled the bluestones from preseli using the M4. Caused quite a tailback.
If they didn't know that earth is round and goes around sun, this would make no sense.
So next question is what language did the Neolithic Farmer's speak and what is its legacy in Europe?
Basque (only surviving language from these cultures), iberian, nuragic, etruscan, aquitanian, minoan, pelasgian, ligurian, etc.
They certainly did not look like that representation you have put here. Humans had been FULLY HUMAN for 150,00 years before they came out of Africa, and the other types of human had come out long before the Ice Age. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
Interesting
This is confused (and confusing). You should clearly separate European hunter-gatherers from Anatolian farmers, despite the similarity of their Y haplogroups (which the latter absorbed in Western Europe).
In the comments below there seems to be some issue with skin colour. Considering that this is a video about people with R1b1a etc DNA maybe they ought to ponder the peoples around the greater Lake Chad area who share the same DNA but have different skin colour to those in Britain and Ireland.
You leave out the possibility of disease.
Iran_HG (belt clave) 10000 BC & iran_herders (Ganj Dareh) 8000 BC belong to which Y-haplo ???????
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The 'Plague Theory' is a very good theory, in my mind, and explains certain things very well. The main points in favor of it are:
1. The 'Plague Theory' is not just idle speculation that may or may not have happened, there is no evidence either way. Instead, DNA analysis shows the presence of the plague in bodies in Northern Europe appearing roughly at the same time the people from the Steppes of Eurasia largely replaced the previous inhabitants.
2. The book 'Guns, Germs and Steel' makes the point that these three factors caused a lot of population replacement during historical times. And the most important factor, by far, has been 'Germs'. Cortez had guns and steel (well, mostly iron). And horses as well, which gave the Spanish a big advantage. But it was germs, which the Spanish had a lot of resistance to, but the native Americans didn't, that was most decisive. There is no reason to think that germs were no also a decisive factor in prehistoric population replacements as well.
3. Much resistance from diseases come from the 'X' chromosome. Females have two 'X' chromosomes, males only one. So females would have a better chance of surviving the introduction of a new disease. Leading to the observed results that the Steppes invaders 'Y' chromosomes were much more successful and replacing the natives 'Y' chromosomes, while the native 'X' chromosomes were only partly replaced by the 'X' chromosomes of the invaders from the Steppes.
4. The Steppe invaders were much more successful at taking over Northern Europe than they were at taking over Southern Europe, as seen in the Northern Europeans being more 'Nordic' looking than the Southern Europeans. Why would this be? We don't have historical accounts of what happened when the plague overran Europe around 2500 BC. But we do have historical accounts of the spread of a new variation of the plagues starting around 1346 AD. The new plague first appeared in west in the Eurasian Steppe region. It spread most quickly through the Black Sea and through the Mediterranean. Ending up traveling through Europe in a 'Clockwise' fashion. Not reaching Northern Russia by an overland route but instead through the Black Sea, through the Mediterranean, through the Baltic, then finally reaching Northern Russia.
Something similar may have happened around 2500 BC, but at a much, much slower pace. There was sea trade, but at a much slower pace.
The faster spread of disease by sea, combined possible higher population density of Southern Europe. may have resulted in the plague reaching Southern Europe first. Decimating the populations of Southern Europe first, while Northern Europe was largely spared. But then the native survivors, now with more resistance to the plague, repopulated the land.
In Northern Europe it was different. The plague first arrived just before the Steppe emigrants. Decimating the populations. Which did not have time to recover before the land was repopulated with the new comers.
In conclusion the plague theory explains many observations:
A. The first appearance of the plague in Northern Europe about the same time the people of Northern Europe were largely replace by new emigrant Steppe people.
B. The greater survival rate of the 'X' native chromosomes than the 'Y' native chromosome in Europe.
C. The much lesser success of the Steppe emigrants replacing the native population in Southern Europe than the success they had in Northern Europe.
2:01 "Who built this place, how is still a mystery."
Where's the evidence that there was a genocide?
What evidence do you have that any of them looked like your thumbnail?
Where did the bodies under the original Stonehenge come from?
Were they human sacrifices?
Me, I killed them, it was me
They didn't kill us all bruh. Scottish-American and I2 haplotype and alive and well. 😆
I believe cheddar man's people built Stonehenge, the mudhuts are a give away.
Thank you for the video information cheers 🥂
Thanks.
@@geonomad1 it appears that my ancestors Bell beaker my ancestors My DNA comes out in the Ireland and the British people and I do like the truth about All ancestors can you do a pure video about the bell beaker and the British people just the more we find out the more clarity your viewers get All the DNA cheers we I salute you thank you again
@@geonomad1 Hope you do a video on paternal haplogroup T ( Thomas Jefferson had it ) which is very rare.
Were the people who built stone henge the Firbolgs or the Fomor?
Doesn't matter because they're both Caucasoids.
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the glacia moved the blue stones .
i2a and i2b are very good old friends of R1A.
R1A is the Pagan architect, healer, engineer, scribe, boatbuilder legend.
R1A taught i2 how to read and write and introduced our women to them, and theirs to us. mtDNA U and K are first sister to R1A.
R1B is the Great son of R1A.
Simple answer - Indo European.
There is not Indo Europeans. It is noncence from the genetic point of view. Whom are you calling Indo European? Those who were from Yamnaya Culture and from East Steps invaded Europe and killed old Mesolithic Europeans ? Or you would call Aryans who left Europe met on the way Slavs R1a and went to Iran, India even far East? Whom are you calling Indo European?
That picture is a straight up neanderthal
Did the mammoths exist when Stonenege was built? They could have assisted with the transport of stone to build Stonenege on wood slays on snow and ice in the winter.
No, they would have been long extinct.
@@jonhopp I expect it is all engineered, to suit a particular view.
Ireland is not part of British isles, as the British isles is not part of EU.
I thought the ceils was the first people in the UK and Ireland.
No the 'Celts' were descended from the Beaker people, who replaced the Neolithic farmers.
The people depicted as Stone Henge people, who are displaced by people depicted as semi-human, as seen here. This is not correct. The people by this time in Europe were fully human and had been for a very long time. There were no semi human people. The people who came out of Africa were fully human much further back in time 72,000 years and had been fully human much further back in time. Cynthia Allen-McLaglen
You must be following Nemets.
Yo soy R1b L51 ❤
The Florence's monster.
Really?
Would be so much better if you could include general phenotypes and more racial descriptors. I imagine the 1b y dna terminology doesnt register fluently with most viewers, or maybe its just me. Very insightful video tho.
No one they are still here
Proof?
Οι προγονοι των εργολάβων που χτίζουν το μετρο της θεσσαλονίκης
Nonsense they came from Northern Africa 🌍
Incomprehensible robot voice. Tiny incomprehensible black labels with unexplained data. Click bait ?
Stonehenge was not built by modern British who are Celtic and Germanic.
Byzantine was not a Turkic civilisation.
Indus Valley civilisation was not built by Indo-Aryans.
Mesopotamia was not an Arab civilisation.
Why do Europeans and Euro-Americans attribute all of Africa's civilisations to Non-Africans.
Mushabean (13000 Before Present) is said to be Caucasian.
Nabta Playa (12000 years ago): West Asians.
Kiffian (8000 BP): Caucasian Ancient Europeans of Africa. Lol.
Tenerien (7000 BP): Caucasians of the Sahara.
Africa's history is Europeanised. Any African who resist is labelled an Afrocentrist
Britons are much older than the Celts and are NOT Germanic.
@@cesiumalloy which haplogroup do your "Britons" belong to?
@@ohlangeni R1B please read other things I have written on this page
@@cesiumalloy The Anglo-Saxons - and the Jutes - were Germanic tribes.
@@cecileroy557 They left no lasting impact on our Genes neither did the Romans who later ruled us for 400 years or so. Which tells you they may have come but not in significant numbers to affect the indigenous Brits. Which kind of proves that nobody was replaced maybe a few were killed but not replaced. The original population are still there.
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Once again introducing theories of hybrid mixed species man-kind and placing them where they did not exist. Putting the builders of stone hedge to rewrite true-history create his-story. When the true
Haplogroup R1b
Why do you portray them as not only Neanderthals but black Neanderthals, you loose all credibility.
Because before the Neolithic most European populations were dark-skinned, after the spread of Neanderthals light-skinned became extinct, it must have re-emerged in ancient North Eurasian populations in Siberia (Afontova Gora 3), where their genes were KITLG (blonde hair) and the OCA1 type 2 gene in Western hunter-gatherers (WHG) expanded again to Europe, the OCA2 gene is responsible for Blue eyes and this mutation is typical of the Ancient Europeans of the Mesolithic, that means that ancient Europeans were black and that some of them had blue eyes
To clarify that the Ancient Europeans were dark skinned however they were far from being Sub-Saharan Africans phenotypically the ideal comparison would be with the people of the South Arabian Peninsula who possess a significant Basal Eurasian genetic component (Ancestors of all modern Eurasians).
@@eltecnico9541 Could you give me a link.
@@eltecnico9541 Link please.
@@cesiumalloy I can't TH-cam blocks the link, but I can give information that you can verify yourself by investigating
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I have a shallow theory that might be funny to most people: the designers of Stonehenge would be remnant Neanderthals and were annihilated by the Celts, when they arrived on the island, who must have put the legendary name "ogres" on them.
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Ti poni a nai e non isci ite nai e fazi lu prescie a to e non nai nugra ti fazi male po te
To the question "Wer hat die Leute getötet, die Stonehenge gebaut haben?" the same question muss be asked concerning all old buildings in the world (Asia, south america, etc.)
"...to The GOD."?
If anybody wants to hear the truth read the bible it’s Gods word. God created heaven and earth, don’t be deceived by lies stonehenge is pagan worship
The Welsh have DNA that goes back to ice age so the ancient Britons are still living happily in WALES 🏴😜
I2a is usually SLAVIC haplogroup???
In Britain we can see exist slavic toponyms ?? How do you explain that???🤔🤔🤔
what slavic toponyms?
I2a is wetern hunter-gatherer. When the Anaolian/Aegean Neolithic farmers got to western Europe they seem to have been dominated by the hunter-gatherers, who took the farmer women. Then hunter-gatherer DNA expanded eastwards with Funnelbeaker, Michelsberg, Wartberg, Globular Amphora. Then they got conquered by Corded Ware/ Bell Beaker coming from the east.
I2a is not Indo-European Slavic. Slavs are under R1a and only one branch of which there are several branches that aren't "Slavic". It is known that the Slavs invaded the Balkans and took over control of preexisting cultures that they conquered. So you might say your Slavic because you speak the language or you have the customs.... But genetically R1a and I2a are totally unrelated. I think they possibly could have been part of the Northern Illyrians.
I hg(I2,I1) its a proto euro hg.
Slavic i2a does exist but it has nothing to do with those older/diffrent mutations.
@@ario4795 see "Britansko-Balkanske veze;veze u praistoriji-projekat rastko
(British-Balkan connection in prehistory-Rastko project)
I believe it was erected with the help of druids, whom I also believe may have descended from the Annunaki so would have been like giants compared to the original settlers of Britain.
The Annunaki and their descendants especially, would later be known as Denisovans, and travelled over time from the Iraq area, up into Russia before then travelling to France, also settling there , before moving through brit.ain, settling there, but from there, some then made their way to the Americas
It was destroyed by the seem people who build it because the vikings took the place to do human sacrifices
i wanted to listen but hateAI
All that remained were the druids. The romans exterminated them almost.
They were not even human. But another species similar to human . But not human
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R1B is correlated with a lot of violence after some research. Not only in the bronze age...
Yes, genocide against American Indians, Aborigines in Australia, Africans, Middle Eastern peoples, Indians and other peoples of Asia, South America, Irish, Jews etc....
Whole genetic cluster also has an edge in IQ, which made subsequent conquests a bit easier.
R1b took over Europe then the New World.
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 R1b has a proven predatory and genocidal nature, it has nothing to do with IQ. It is also of Mongoloid origin, let's say, the first, undocumented arrival of Mongols in history to Europe.
As an R1b. I can say that's true.
They discovered some years ago that Stonehenge had numerous axes carved into the megaliths. In the context of the axe cult of the early Indo-Europeans of the Corded Ware and Bell Beaker cultures, and the discovery of the near total population replacement and Y-DNA collapse, those carvings go from being a neat art piece to an ominous sign of what actually happened to the farmers that constructed the site.
You do know that you can use a bronze axe to cut wood as well dont you?
Wow. Interesting observation. Around the same time, maybe earlier than the Corded Ware, perhaps since the copper age, there was a tribe in southern Scandinavia called the Battle Axe culture. Hunters, foragers and fishers even during the advent of agriculture and bronze. Identified by stylized copper axe heads that may have been the inspiration for Thor's Hammer iconography.
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It probably works better than using stone axe. But bronze really isn't that good of a metal for tools as a rule. Copper alloys can be heat treated similiar to the way iron alloys can be due to the phase change that happens when heated to a certain temperature (1). The Copper alloys we call Bronze include the Copper/Tin alloy associated with the Bronze Age. Plus they also include Copper Alloys that include Aluminum, Iron, Nickel and other elements. These can have various ranges of possible hardness and toughness. In fact one company formerly based in Milwaukee (2) developed an Aluminum Bronze alloy in the early 1900s that was specifically meant for machining steel and other metals. Now did Copper smith's of the Bronze Age know certain tricks for producing working tools that could hold a sharper edge than just plain Copper Tin alloys I suspect some of them did. I also suspect the Bronze axis head that have commonly been found in Bronze Age sites sometimes in large numbers were actually meant more as a common trade measure or unit for Bronze. A form of coinage or being the equivalent to gold bars.
1) Below a certain temperature the alloy will be a face centered structure. In Iron alloys the alloying element is centered on the faces of the cubic structure. Once you reach the phase change temperature the alloying element shifts into the center of the cube. This is what causes the alloy to become hard. Note hard and tough are not the same thing.
2) Ampco Metals. Currently owned by a Swiss holding Company.
Yeah, everybody seems to have their own ideas about stone henge. Everybody always seem to forget that they've found axe head impressions all over the stones. They also seem to forget the hugely long road that comes from the north all the way to Stonehenge or Avebury that was found a while back now. They think it may have been some kind of ceremonial or procession road. They've found large numbers of arrow heads under said road and have found much more in the places they've excavated. Another part to the puzzle.
One theory is Stonehenge was used as a hunting caral when our ancestors were hunting the huge Ivex. Which was a huge buffalo type animal that roamed Scandinavia and Britain. They rex that could be what the axe head carvings on the stones were signalling
The 'heel' stone was once upright and one of four stones.
The 'altar' stone was also once upright. Knocked over when one of the uprights of the central trilithon collapsed.
It is now accepted (very recently) that there was never a blue stone circle at Preselli.
in the early 1900s it was all dug up and moved