A wheel, a drain and a mill
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- In this video we look at a few things from past videos. We found an old Victorian Cartwheel by the River Irk in Manchester. What do you think. Is this a piece of old Victorian engineering. We visit one of our favourite storm drains in full flow during heavy rainfall. On the River Medlock. Finally we visit the site of the former Bank Mill in Salford and take a look around this old Art Deco building. During the video we are also doing an urbex reconnaissance mission to find a particular site that we may film in a future video. Art Deco Buildings, Victorian wheels and a storm drain in full flood. Its all in this video
Id say the present building is from around 1920's 1930's as per say art deco.
Yeah I reckon so to
I agree ...It reminds me of The Hercule Poirot..
i would say the same by the look of how its build fits to this time
Yes indeed, you see it everywhere, also by looking at the the slim metal window frames.
7:30 Never grow up!
Only boring, angry people don't have childish moments.
I found at the internet, Bank Mill was there since 1779 (so more then 100 years older as the date Danny found). The mill suffered of 3 large fires in 1828 and 1829 and damage of a storm in 1839. Can't find when or why the original building was demolished but I can imagine it as a 150 year old building with a lot of structural damages of the fires and hurricane, it might be just a pretty unsafe structure. Good chance the mill went bankrupt in the crisis of 1927. The building you visited is clearly late 1920's, maybe early 1930's. The Art-Deco style, the green stone in the hallway, the staircase, the tiling, it is all screaming "I'm 1920's/1930's".
www.gracesguide.co.uk/Bank_Mill_(Salford)
Thats great and thank you for the info
@@MartinZero You're welcome.
That wheel could be a lot of things. Early automobiles had wood wheels. But carts did too...one clue would be the shape of the steel tire. If it has a "U" shape, that means it originally had a rubber tire.
Wish I knew its history Fredy
Lancashirelad No one made spoked wheels without steel tyres after about 800BC. The tyre holds the wheel segments together.
After about 1850 rubber tyres started to be fitted to smooth the ride and reduce wear in paved city streets but they were not common.
Lancashirelad Pretty much - you can safely assume that it is post Roman occupation in Britain...
When you were on top of the mill in Salford, you looked across to a grey bridge over the railway. On the far side of that bridge, there used to be a train station, which closed, I think, in the late 60's. It was Pendleton Station, not to be confused with Pendleton Broad Street, which was a hundred yards or so further up the hill.
The main station building was to the left on the far side of the bridge as you were looking at it and to get to the other platform, you had to exit the station and cross over that road bridge to another entrance. I left Salford to live abroad about 25 years ago, but I still have memories of catching the train at that station, so I wish you'd gone and had a look to see if anything remains of it.
I really like those "watery places" you visit, definitely among my faves! As for the building, while part of me is happy that it still exists, I can't help but to feel sorry for how dilapidated and unkempt it is on the inside. Really hope it will receive more care and maintenance at some point, before it's too far gone.
Yeah its used as a dumping ground
Bank Mill is definitely not Victorian but Art Deco, 30's. However, maybe the cellars are from the original mill as the flooring and even some of the walling looks a lot older. Nice interesting video Martin.
i'd say cart wheel, and the mill looked 1930s-40 maybe later50s even
I would love to think its a cartwheel
@@MartinZero I would agree it's a cart wheel, there would be no other reason to have a metal 'tyre' if it was a hand wheel
But it looks like only 4 spokes, so a small handcart would make sense
As for age of building, i would say 30's, there's one glance @13:48 of what looks like a skylight with small square glass panels, so my guess is 30's, we had a similar skylight where i worked but with round glass, and that building was sim9ilar era.
The lift control panel also looks 30's/40's
I'd agree on both points. It certainly *looked* like an old cartwheel, although it was hard to judge the size of it. As to the building; my first thought was "between the wars" and, from *known* dates of similar buildings, I'd narrow that down to late 20s/early 30s. My knowledge of industrial architecture, however, is limited to what I can find on Google, so others will know *way* more than me.😁
Cheers for now,
Dougie.
I think that mill used to house British Cotton Co.Ltd in 1969. I have a memory of delivering some files to them
NPow , you're right my wife worked there in the late 70's.
Ahh right, interesting
there is a site here about the mills in salford
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mills_in_Salford#CITEREFWilliamsFarnie1992
and the other section of building you was looking at on the roof was added on
Perfect timing! Just about to have my tea and you appear with another brilliant adventure!! I`ve been waiting all day for this!! Yay!!
Thanks very much Demelza hope you enjoyed
Another great video Martin !That building is 1920's '30's ...Maybe an administrative building to the factory's that were demolished ..? Who knows...
Difficult to get the full story Anne
For anyone interested, on Channel 5 on Friday evening (4 Sept 2020) at 20:00 there's a programme called Inside Manchester's Midland Hotel. Obviously I can't vouch for the quality or content, but may include some interesting historical bits and bobs.
Update: if you haven't watched this Channel 5 programme, save your time. It's totally rubbish. I should have guessed when I saw that it was Channel 5...
The wheel is an old cart wheel, quite common until WW2. They had an oak or metal hub, wood spokes and feloe and a steel rim was heated and shrunk on.
As your at Gorton reservoir I take it your on the trail of Gore Brook?
Loads of history in that area, Gore Brook, Stockport Branch of the Ashton Canal, Fallowfield Loop Line, Hyde Road Station,
All virtually come together ar this locale. 👍🙂
Yeah its a good place Ian
Ah, so not just me, then. Let's have some from my part of the world, haha!
Reckon Martin and his mate accessed that area from Tanyard Brow.
Another excellent video Martin, your channel is honestly one of the best on youtube. Thanks for the content :D
100% 1930's art deco that building. The lifts were incredible 👌❤️
That COOP used to be Queen's Park Motors, the big motorbike shop.
My dad worked at Queens Park Motors for many years. I think the owner was called Alf Elliot. Its appartments now.
Thanks for the video, it sure does look like a old cart wheel in good condition. 😀 👍 I'm sure the mill building looks to me to be art deco so not old enough to be the original mill!!😎🐓🐓🇬🇧
The restrained art deco frontage and inner details plus Crittal windows screams out 1930s to me.
Yeah I agree Hazel
Why don’t you use what.three.words to easily find all these places you have been too, just a thought Martin.
The green composite stone on the stairs are very indicative of a building designed in the 1920's
That's just what I was thinking too. Late 20's maybe early 30's
Thanks Jacqueline
Ill say 20s too. Screams 20s art deco. Quite nice too
Lift and decor looks like 1930's, 40's to me, windows also. Re canal clue's in the name, Bank Mill.
If it's like Leeds, the Co-op building may be more CWS Co-op Wholesale Society warehouse rather than retail store.
Bank Mill looks like it was rebuilt in
1930's onwards.
Yeah I agree David, its not 1891
It says "Cooperative Industrial Society" on the side of that building.
I would say your'e right about being Art Deco. the rounded corner of the building & the decor, coupled with the crittall windows (metal framed), & the fact that Asbestos was used, scream late1920's-early 30's definately exclude this building from being built in the 1800's. I have been an art deco fan since the 90's, & suggest you look at the Hoover building in London for an example of Crittall windows. Nice vlog though Martin, keep em coming. Regards Rural Geeze.
Rural Geeze your right the building looks Art Deco but I doubt it was built in the 20/30s that would mean the original mill only stood 40 years, it doesn’t sit right they would have pulled it down so quick
Yeah love the Hoover building and cheers Rural 👍
I absolutely love the Art Deco design on the building!!! Would love to renovate that into housing!!!! Please reopen the canal!!!! What a great project to work on!!!
Another great video Martin. It looks like the entrance to the overflow from Gorton Lower Reservoir. Just in case you didn't know, you are very close to the (filled in) Stockport branch of the Ashton Canal. The canal branch heads south and runs along the east side of Gorton Cemetery. Many thanks and Best Wishes Pete.
You're going back for a closer look at that cart wheel, aren't you? You might not realise it yet, but we all do! :D
Very interesting as always. 1:18 ha they must love your channel
Cheers Daniel
Really enjoyed your latest. As for becoming a member? It was my Birthday in August and to my surprise, the BBC remembered it as well!!! They demand that I become a member of their channels for a fee of £157.? a year for none payment I would face criminal charges. Not like you Martin giving me a choice and can still watch your excellent content.
Love your videos pal realy great but cutting videos to give to paying customers is crossing over to the dark side ,its a pity you cant have a donation slot instead youd probably be surprised how much youd get ,3 tiers of membership keeps the skint out and makes people feel beneath others ,just be open to all pal like you was was before ,love the history and appreciate the effort you put in pal ,just an opinion not a criticism keep up the good work
Hello. Its just an option for those that want to support me. It starts a £4.99 per month. I could be selling hoodies at £38 like some TH-camrs but I choose not to do that. 99% of the content on my channel is free and will continue to be. The help the members section gives me is invaluable and enables continuity of the free stuff. Its a difficult thing as I appreciate ALL support from Everyone. So its not to make people feel beneath others. thats a bit over the top come on (said in a friendly way) But I take your comment in the positive way in which it was meant. Thanks very much Mr Wilks 👍🏼
Eh, I'm skint, wasn't always thus, worked for over 40 yrs abut ill health doth circumscribe my spending somewhat! Oyjerwise Martins' channel would be a sure beneficiary!
@@MartinZero merchandise is a good way pay ive never liked subscribing to anything hope i didnt offend love the video's
That 'mill' is '20s at the earliest. The clues are the architecture (particularly the curved entrance, pure Deco) and the steel-framed windows, Crittall being the most well-known manufacturer of these (and they're still going, bless them). And the lifts - if they don't scream Art Deco then I don't know what does. Clearly the 1890s mill outlived its usefulness and this building was built on the same site.
Martin you never fail to make excellent video's that entertain us week in week out 😎
I applaud you sir 👏🏻👏🏻
😃🍻👍🏻
That spiral stairway is too recent to be original, the steps are no way old, or they'd be worn down at the front, from all the feet tramping up and down. The decorative trims on the lifts, and the round corner of the building all say late 40's early 50's, but that stairway must have had the treads replaced since then. Looking at the cellars, I suspect the flagged floor and the brickwork are original, but the steel girders are the mk 2 building.
Yeah I agree definitely a later build
Great video Martin! from what I remember only parts of the old mill remained and in 2013 most of it was demolished, including a nice old tower, the only part left of the original mill is the small funny shaped building on Lissadel street, the other part on Salop street is much later addition
How about plastering Machester with posters intended for the youngsters who are on a bad track, like probably both of us were in the 80's, saying: "Martin Zero (the Hero) on TH-cam. Better than your fucking bong"
Hi Martin, i live just down the road from bank mill at Cromwell roundabout, not far from the Irwell. That co op building use to be queens park motors, i bought 2 bikes from there. It’s a listed building and was converted into flats. When you go inside it is completely different. They had to keep the outside cos of the grade of listing. There used to be a factory down lissadel street called Ward and Goldstones were they made electrical components, it’s long gone now and theres a Council building and a business park, shame really it was a massive old factory. Nice to see you in Salford 👍
Great channel and video once again Martin as I don't always comment but going back a bit to James Brindleys Wier, is episode 4 on the members section as the Medlock 10 where the Hulme lock meets the Irwell? Just out of curiosity really as always enjoy a bit of Manchester history.
Hi Martin, yup I'd agree with the other comments. There are a few surviving buildings in the Stoke-on-Trent area that look very similar. Built between the wars. Think that wheel in the river bed is certainly from a cart. (There's one just like that rotting away behind my shed!)
I would have said it was built 1920 to 1940 as the beams/columns in the cellar where rolled steel joists(they had tapered flanges)made up until the 1960s ,the beams then became universal beams with parallel flanges
The Pendleton Coop building has been converted into flats. I found this out in 2019 and tried to move there as I thought the building looked amazing but the letting agency told me they'd all been condemned. I didn't like to ask too much! ;-)
Martin, I love your vids but have a minor suggestion/gripe/feedback: You don't always introduce your companion until well into the vid or not at all. Do you reckon you could tell us who is with you up front? I don't know or remember their names from previous vids and end up focussed on who it is rather than what you're doing.
I take it you are braving exploring Gorton Falls and the syphon ? God forsaken hell hole, take waders and some sort of mask, the place stinks lol. 👍🏼
I was gonna look at the Butterflys lots in the area
@@MartinZero Plenty of them Martin...White with a Blue patch in the middle.🤢
Those Castrol oil drums in the cellar looked interesting, looking at the logo on them that logo was used between 1946-1958 so they have possibly been down there a long time. To me the building is 1930's, please tell us its history if you find out!
If only u could plug that wheel into a computer and watch "the whole life of" video clip in which u get to see a brief 3-5 min video of just the things,people and places it has been until it ended up in that river
Pretty sure it's an old cart wheel Martin :) I do love your coloured lights, really looks cool in those Victorian tunnels, the Bank Mill looks so art deco, an old Victorian mill thats had a facelift? We have an old clothing factory near me that had the same treatment
That wheel looks like it’s for a Mercedes SL (R129 body shape)
This should be obvious to anyone who has seen the 1993 documentary “Hot Shots Part Deux”.
Dont know of you found it on your recce or not, but it you walk round the path round gorton resevoir, on the opposite side to the Dbdale park, you come across some objects I cant figure out, there are cast iron pipes mabe 8" bore which come out of the banks and turn 90 degrees up and stop at a large flange - also there are a couple of round stoner constructions abour 8ft diameter one is half dismantled the other in tact - alse is Kings Rd that runs up from the causeway/hyde Rd junction through the gold couse up to Droysleden - most of it original sets
in 1935 there was nothing there, on the other side of broughton road there was 2 mills on the left side of orchard street between railway & orchard st the map says where u r was the canal thats all that was on that land till fredrick rd think the map is from 1935 cost 2/6
Thanks very much for the info Mike
@@MartinZero the co op building on the other side of broughton road was built in 1887 that was nice in side ,when you went in main door there was a 3 story stair case 5 foot wide that went up to parts department for motor bikes (1990`s) and the floor was big logs of wood i was in there many times ,Cumberland House dont look like the rest of the building round there prob built 1950`s,i found(online) a map of 1911 that map says there was a school there
Martin, here is the documnation on that cooperative building: historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1386097
Hi Martin, Do you know you start this video stood in the middle of the old filled in Stockport Canal (Lankey Cut)?
I'd love to go out for a day with Martin and explore these places!
Thanks Martin for another great vlog I would guess that building was twenties or thirties. Take care and all the best. Stevie
Martin, you say you are not good with heights. All I have to do is watch your video on the roof and I feel dizzy! Thanks again, you intrepid explorer.
another great video, one thing i like to look for is the old bench marks, on your old map of bank mill it shows a benchmark on the corner with a number, these are scattered all over the country and are for taking heights when building something new, its a fixed point and is a constant, the fact its there on the old map you may have been able to date the land around there by finding the benchmark, i am taking you know what these are with your knowledge but just in case its an inverted V with a horizontal line above it, the line is the height.
images.app.goo.gl/TS519Ys7oJMzweVo8
Why are there dislikes again people!
Some of them will be pudgy-fingered scrollers. But, as to the rest, I think it's the same mentality of people who walk along streets, randomly scratching cars, or kicking off wing mirrors.
the rest of the cart is still under it
Here in the US, Washington state, if you said you were going for a brew, you would end up with a beer. Just saying.
That’s definitely a cartwheel off an old toyota
The building screams Art Deco! From the outside to the detail above the lifts and the railings on the stairs! The old map shows a solid building in the space, while the new picture shows a building in just part of that space! I think you are right! Its a newer building built in the Art Deco Style! Now that being said...why? The old building was built in 1891 and Art Deco was from Mid 20's. So after only 35 yrs the older building maybe burned down? Or outlived it use and was downsized to a smaller building! Lots of questions haha! That wheel looked really old! From a wagon or maybe a workings! Nice to see Danny again! Thanks Martin!
Original building was probably build in 1779 instead of 1891 (www.gracesguide.co.uk/Bank_Mill_(Salford)), and had several fires and damage of storms in it's life time. It makes more sense to me they demolished an 150 year old building with a lot of structural damages than a building of just 30-something old.
Cheers Miles I pretty much agree with what you have said
Hi mate how do I join the members part? I went to your main page on TH-cam but couldn’t find it.
Martin, Head over to the Rochdale canal up from Islington marina you may get to see shooters Brook
The mill looks to modern to be an 18th centery mill but it may have been built on the site of the original site around the 1920s.
When I was on the UK coast in the late 60's we called at Manchester Pomona docks frequently. There was a large building that had CWS logo which I assumed was the Coop The ladies always used to wave to us as we passed. Could this be the same building Martin?
Thanks Martin Must see Manchester Before i Get to old. Keep Safe Dave.👍
That wheel looks like a mag wheel from a Raleigh Burner....LOL
The slate logic for the lift looks 20's to 40's I think. Vary vary rare to see.
Oh right, is that the thing on top ?
Somebody on TH-cam, perhaps BigClive, examined on a video an old slate board controller for an elevator...
@@MartinZero It's the big black board on the wall covered in electrical hardware (relays)
At the time they used a slate panal to mount all the relays. The entire controller is electromechanical.
That Bank Mill building is fabulous, but it ain’t Victorian, if it was it would be Victorian in style. Art Nouveau would be 1900’s to 1920’s, after that things stopped due to wars and building started properly again in the 1950’s, imitating the golden era of the 20’s, hence lots of Art Deco looking building were built in the 1950’s. This looks like a typical example of that. The brickwork, windows and other features lead me to believe its 1950’s.
Not sure if that spiral staircase is original, but I absolutely LOVE it.
Thanks for another great vid Martin. Keep em coming an I’ll keep a watchin..
Thanks Kevin, I agree its a later build
Rofl if GMFRS saw this video they'd shut that place down. If I was a gambling man, and I am, I'd say post-WW2 on that building. Maybe 1960's deco revival. If it was True Deco the building would be listed and it'd be plastered with preservation orders - although if it's a later building it's a curiosity in its own right.
Yeah difficult to date the place, cheers
It looks like the pigeons were expecting you! If it’s not spiders it’s pigeons!
The wheel appears to have a metal rim, indicating it would’ve been used for a cart/barrow.
Is that building with Co-Operative on the side the one that used to be owned by Queens Park Motorcycles?
Styling of the mill looks to be from around the 1930s
Not sure Phil it was a flying visit to be honest. Deffo not 1891
Now yer for it.... you're getting into my real proper and genuine patch- it's the Gore Brook, innit? Seriously Martin, it's going to be be most interesting (to say the least) to see how a 'foreigner' comes to terms with this. Let me say, from the outset, I'm glad it's you, you'll give it the treatment it warrants, so please go for it. I have nothing but sweet sweet memories of this area, so much stuff, part of my life yaddayadda etc. &so on.....
I have spent time and youth discovering how the the world works, round there, believe me. In my time, the 'resers' were not overgrown down to the waterline, as now, and the views were most open indeed. My high school was there, where my real, formative, years were spent. I didn't know it then, of course, but blimey- now I can see it all. I had relatives very close by too. And work colleagues who have passed on as well. Useless, but related blather- Hyde Road Junction, Reddish, Hyde road goods, Upper, Middle and lower reservoirs, Debdale, Gorton, and so on. If I'm wrong,,,,,,,kick my arse fro now 'til doomsday. I'll have to wait and see, as I'm too skint to join up til I getback to work, andthe b000000rds start to pay me again! Cheers bud. If you need any info, if I've got it right, just holler. If I'm way off, just kick my virtual arse back to the dark ages! Cheers mate!
Thank you. I need the source and the end
The wood elevator doors are beautiful.
Deffo a 1930s building, lots of clues.
Bank Mill positively shouts Art Deco,, designed and built in the Twenties to replace the Victorian mill
Yeah i agree
I noticed that Danny has something with what looks like an American flag design on it, very nice. Where did you get that Danny? You honor the USA, which is good, I was thinking that a British flag may be more suitable in the UK though. Cheers from America :-)
Cheers Dave, I will ask him
Looks like they're going out of their way to make that "mill" look like a dump.
Neat video. Be careful when climbing to the top of buildings. Those WiFi transmitters give off a lot of radiation when up close. I know a friend who works on cell towers and they would be switched off prior to him getting close to them. Just a bit of advice, otherwise you may begin to get headaches or feel nauseous.
Thanks Sean. I never thought of that
I would very much like to support you but I use an app on sky and a iPad so i don’t think is is possible
Oh wow. I haven’t got time to look through all these comments so apologies if I’m repeating someone else’s post but....
On the map showing Bank Mill there is a benchmark shown. It should be visible on the brick or stone at the corner as an arrow carved in the building. That would date it possibly? Although as the extant building is curved and the map shows it coming to a point I’m guessing that benchmark is lost, and the current building is newer. I’ll come back and read the comments later! Love the vlogs. Hope to bump
Into you one day!!!
Oh! And that cart wheel needs digging out and preserving so it can be identified!!
Hey Martin, if you are interested you should head over to Hull. Just on the outskirts are three old abandoned buildings that would make an amazing video and explore. It’s an insurance building and an old fish processing plant. Just google “lord line hull” and you can see where it is. Also if you follow the path to the right on the shoreline then the public path actually goes on top and over the roofs of some old warehouse (yes over the roof). It’s pretty crazy. I am sure you would love it. If you want to know more just let me know. Also the abandoned buildings are fully accessible.
You can see more here www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/lord-line-hull-july-2020.124105/
The style of the main part of the Mill is definitely 1930 - early 1950s. However the cellar had flag stone floors which points to an earlier building, also the wing with older looking brickwork does not fit in. I am guessing that the old mill was partly demolished and the present building built over the original cellars.
I agree David, deffo a later build
Wicked video Martin your right about the wheel it's definitely from a cart or a wagon wood with the iron outer rim and I fully agree with you about the mill, as mills had completely open plan floors for the looms and the brickwork screams art deco keep the videos coming buddy
Thanks very much mate
Definitely an old cart wheel I've found one myself but it was mostly just the metal bits, so I watched a video by an old wheelwright who was repairing a more modern cart wheel. You've found a real beauty!☸️ great video
Thank you
How do you become a member I can’t find any button to join as a member
Was wondering that too.....
Look at the main channel. Ideally on a laptop. Underneath the Bee or thereabouts should be a Join button. You may need to subscribe. that bit is free. thanks for asking
Ive put a quick reply in thanks
I live in Fullerton, California and we have a mix of building dates. I do agree with other posters that this building was probably built later in the 20's and 30's.
Yep agreed Timothy
Hi martin, danny and colin. Do you think the wheel could be part of a spinning wheel ? or a cart wheel, it looked a real treasure. Great video and love the east side of manchester. The pigeons were hilarious, really enjoyed and thanks for sharing. ❤💛💚
Hello Ruth hope your well. Yeah i would love to know the history of that wheel
More than likely a cart wheel.
Also, 7:38 I recognise that pathway anywhere, that was behind Hyde Road Railway Station and the taxi plot! Was it you who moved the stone block from the entrance to my excavation trench? I went back today to do some more digging and found it laying on the ground. Anyway, I managed to move more rubble and dirt out of the way today and I managed to get the best video inside I've done so far.... somewhat disappointing, as I can see how much work I still have to do!
Nice adventure...thanks for sharing...I've subscribed to keep up with your discoveries
@@weirskruud Thank you, I hope that my vids won't disappoint, as often there's sadly nothing left of the places I vist, though in some cases, there's a lot!
I honestly didnt move anything. I didnt know where the hell I was
Thanks Angela much appreciated
@@MartinZero lol, well, that was the site of Hyde Road Railway Station, or at least, the part behind it, that path was the roadway up behind it for the staff of the station and the taxi firm next door. You probably walked right past the remains of the signal box too, as it was just on the other side of the water passage. Possibly did you see the remains of the signal pulley system?
I sadly had to give last Sunday a miss from digging, as the week prior whilst there, I managed to pull several muscles around my lower right rib section, and it was just too painful for me to go. Today was... manageable!
No way is that building from 1891i think that you are correct with art deco
For some reason I don't think that lift shafts were conceived of in the late 19th century, I could be wrong, maybe the bad horse drawn lifts, but they are a dead giveaway that somebody has got the wrong date..
Yeah agreed cheers Jason
Another quality video Martin 👍🏻
A great mish mash. Re the railings in Debdale park that got your attention, the wall is also a lovely feature and looks almost as good as the day it was built. I think that water down the ravine may drop into Tanyard Brow? Another nearby water course worth investigating is Gore Brook which makes its way towards Pink Bank Lane.
Hi Chris, yeah Gore brook is of particular interest
I’d say that mill was more late 1930s
Look at the right side of your mill, seems to me there are some additional bricks left over from another building. [Watch at the left side at 20:54... one old window / door is there, too...] what do you think about that ?
I think it may be a hybrid of two buildings
I thought I had picked Peter Kay's Car Share for a moment. ;-) (only kidding)
Oh yeah 😀
Very Atmoshpheric introductory music ;)
My guess would be 1920s 30s deco revival galvanised windows plywood doors real deco would have been wood doors and window frames I think
Yeah am inclined to agree Bob
The Lissadel Street side of Cumberland House looks a lot older than the Salop Street side. The corner entrance and Salop St side are art deco as everyone is saying, but on Lissadel St there is clear change in the brickwork and a totally different style of window - nothing like art deco. I think this needs further investigation.
I agree Andrew its almost a hybrid of two buildings
Ahh nice something to have a brew with Cheers Martin ! And you did a MrmattandMrChay Cool...
Thanks very much Rob
Happy Sunday
Happy Sunday to you Michael
I am wondering if this build was built on the front of the old mill. Giving it a new, updated front in the 30'. Then sometime later the mill was torn down. This would explain the shape of the existing building.
Definitely a hybrid of two buildings Beer
That whole Victorian area has been demolished and the original Bank Mill has been replaced by the current Art Deco building.
Thanks Joy
cartwheel. quite common I would say