This guide is the best tank guide I've ever seen. Genuinely. You sound like a professor giving an insightful lecture. I thought I was a tank main but I didn't know most of this. Now I'll be able to improve. Thank you. Can't wait for more on each role.
The reverse of this is that when playing marksman you shouldn’t engage with your tank, you should let them take a bit of damage first. If you go in at the same time as your tank the enemy will shoot you instead of them, but if you wait until they are about 3/4 - 1/2 health and then go in, the enemy will continue to attack the tank while you can freely do all the damage you like. Secondly, play near your tank but not right next to them, otherwise the enemy will hit both of you with aoe attacks.
A great and helpful video as always ❤ Guys hit the subscribe button and give some support to this channel to reach 10k.let's help him a little shall we🤗
Loved the video personally I don't like tanky supports I usually leave the tanking to the clash laner I main support but am more of the healing or team buff kind of support if you don't mind could make another amazing video taking about such supports thank you for always delivering and having our backs ❤
Can you tell me why when i play farm lane i basically throw a coin on what the support will decide to do? Sometimes they 2v2 mid lane which makes no sense. Sometimes they 2v1 midlane and i am 2v1 dived bot lane. Sometimes we 2v2 bot lane and most of the time we win 2v2. Like i dont understand why you would take exp and put pressure on a carry lane who is supposed to be strong and ranged early. Meantime you could be helping the farmlaner who is not as strong early and needs safety to farm or killpressure to help snowball. Is there a thought process to some of those bonobos starting mid or am i just butthurt cause I am used to league of legends/wild rift strats?
Starting mid as a support is not the problem. Staying mid is the problem. The support has to immediately move towards the farmlane with the mage to support the weakest teammate in the early game (Farmlaner). If they stay mid, it's the worst thing they can do
For me i only go for farm early if my farm lane get counter otherwise always start mid or invade enemy jungler. Cause in some cases enemy jungler more important, meanwhile farm can play safe since roamer provide vision already.
@@stickydusty as far as I understand it is a rotation strat to get a 3 man vs enemy farmlane before the enemy. I don't see a point for the support to help midland otherwise. Plus when u get matched by enemy support it kinda defeats the purpose of the support being mid. You just neutralize the strat assuming you dont die to the 3v2 bot.
@@raphaelchaitas1107 like i said in some cases with spesific occasion mid & roam invade enemy boar then process to go to sideline with lvl 3 mid, jungle come around 1:30 which you already get advantage as early as possible meanwhile farm just little bit behind a gold, Cutting enemy jungler also allow our jungler invade & then process farm lane early if that's was the plan at beginning. If u say both roam on mid, one of them obviously go rush on farm after clear a first wave no doubt about it.
Can you take samples of character break down stats/description. Example , Angela Burst mage / Dr Bien support mage formation mage .Some characters have mage/assassin. I think that is important. Cal yen is team buff and sport . Thanks again 🙏
The problem when using roamer in solo q is that even if you are stunning the whole enemy team, your team will still lose. It happend today when i was using lian po(i am not sure about the name). And i got mvp.
You should NOT play support in solo queue if you are looking to win. It's very rare to find teammates who will follow up because supporting is all about synergy
Thanks for always being there for us newbie, been playing mage since you recommended Heino on past video. But I'm learning tank support for our 5 man games
9.45k👀👀👀 Man, my brain is finally braining, as i am playing mage now, i totally forget and sometimes attack support, so helpful to be back at basics 😂, different pov are so important
can u make a Nezha video ? I have been drafting him into Sun Ce and I believe he was created to counter Sun Ce. His ult is faster than Sun and his passive deals true damage making Sun's passive useless
I will. But talking about countering, they both counter each other. Both can travel across the map to join fights so they basically nullify each other. Sun Ce wouldn't fight Nezha head on so the passive doesn't make much of a difference
You are the best guide on hok that i can find here on TH-cam, it's like going back to my uni days doing engineering, watching endless tutors by Indian professors here on youtube. Thank you once again for the guides🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great video. Zhuang my go to these days. Mid lane was my go to.. I find myself doing well as a roamer. Yari is the second go to, it depends on my team. Cal yen and Dalia second main . Keep up the guides . 🎉🎉🎉
As someone who plays in other moba for quite some time now, I've known most of those play styles already but after transitioning to hok. I'm quite liking the play style and skill sets of the hero Liu Shan and this video gives me some info about that hero that I didn't know yet😊. Hope you could also make some tips and tricks on some hero
Thats tank explanation on tanking damage is for newbies not for me that is pro. We pros we have what is called locked hero. We locl the hero we want to attack and attack that hero not anyone esle even if hp is low. Lol😅😅
Bro thats useless if ur damage dealers are being massacred by 2 to 3 hero of the opposing team. You cant always hero lock if u know that your damage dealers are getting a very hard time positioning in team fights.
@@auberonwizonixI noticed you didn't have it on too in the Luara guide. Though recently a lot of gamers coming from other mobas(especially wildrift) are especially used to this mechanic. I've seen a lot saying they won't play if there's no AA targeting. Still, the guide does have pretty good advices. (I'm also rooting for you 10k sub target)
I completely disagree with the premise of the video as this play style does not apply to all roamers. For starters there are different kinds of support heroes Defensive support mage: heroes that scale with magical items whose abilities are centered around survivability of their teammates (heals, more defense, damage reduction, damage redirection, etc) Offensive support mage: heroes that scale with magical items and are centered in buffing the offensive capabilities of their teammates (buffs to attack, attack speed, porcentual damage, movement speed, etc) Engage tanks: heroes that are meant to initiate fights and tank the initial damage (they have mobility to close the distance, crowd control to root the enemies in place so your team can dish the damage and survivability mechanics to tank like shields or self healing, etc) And disengage tanks: heroes that are centered around protecting allies from enemy engages (they have mobility to always be in the right place, some sort of survivability mechanic to protect allies like shields or damage reduction and crowd control to interrupt enemies and allow your teammates to reposition themselves in a team fight or retreat to base) While laning these four classes are played differently. For example the engage tank is meant to punish the marksman every time he's out of place in relation to his own support with an all out engage and sometimes harass to force a play. While the disengage tank is meant to protect the marksman from ganks and his own engages.
@@auberonwizonixI think he's talking about how most of the video is about a tank support's job when there's still so much to cover about roamers/ supports like how the video is titled. There were only little things to know about sheilders healers and less about retreat and repositioning champs like Sun Bin and Da Qiao.
Thank you for your insightful comment. After watching the video and reading this comment, I understood 2 things. HOW TO PLAY SUPPORTS from the video and TYPES OF SUPPORTS IN HOK from this comment. One thing that i don't understand is this "Completely Disagree" part. For Eg... The video states that - Support needs to play around the team. So by the law of complete disagreement, Do i need to play all alone? Just wondering 😇
@@RainHaven_ That's not what "Disagreement" is. Yes. There is a lot more. But there is only so much you can say in one video. I just think people like to quote, "I completely disagree with this video".
@@auberonwizonixOh I'm not saying the information in the video is wrong or that these are bad tips. They're not. They're very good tips, but they're not applicable to all roamers and not even all tanks. Just engage tanks. And since you don't mentioned the distinction between the types of roamers well that might cause someone to take an enchanter support and play it like a tank. I disagree with the premise not with the content. I know you mentioned something at the end of the video, but it's not about initiation only, but the whole play style you're suggesting here only applies to engage tanks. Sorry if my comment comes out as rude. Not my intention.
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This guide is the best tank guide I've ever seen. Genuinely. You sound like a professor giving an insightful lecture. I thought I was a tank main but I didn't know most of this. Now I'll be able to improve. Thank you. Can't wait for more on each role.
Could you make a more comprehensive guide on supporters and healers.
Thank you so much. More videos coming out!
Will do
The reverse of this is that when playing marksman you shouldn’t engage with your tank, you should let them take a bit of damage first. If you go in at the same time as your tank the enemy will shoot you instead of them, but if you wait until they are about 3/4 - 1/2 health and then go in, the enemy will continue to attack the tank while you can freely do all the damage you like. Secondly, play near your tank but not right next to them, otherwise the enemy will hit both of you with aoe attacks.
9.42K nice growth 😁, Almost half way there , just keep uploading consistently and you will more than likely hit 10k subs soon
That's the plan!
This is mainly for tanky supports , and u only use one kind of support
A great and helpful video as always ❤
Guys hit the subscribe button and give some support to this channel to reach 10k.let's help him a little shall we🤗
Thank you so much and happy to make videos ☺️
4:10 that was too stupid to take damage to tank
u can just use ur skills to stun him and ur friend will kill him 5:00
Loved the video personally I don't like tanky supports I usually leave the tanking to the clash laner I main support but am more of the healing or team buff kind of support if you don't mind could make another amazing video taking about such supports thank you for always delivering and having our backs ❤
Will do! Thank you
Any tips on mozi being a support? i just realized mozi does big damage in early game as a support role.
Yes. He's a very good support. Just build him hybrid
Can you tell me why when i play farm lane i basically throw a coin on what the support will decide to do?
Sometimes they 2v2 mid lane which makes no sense. Sometimes they 2v1 midlane and i am 2v1 dived bot lane.
Sometimes we 2v2 bot lane and most of the time we win 2v2. Like i dont understand why you would take exp and put pressure on a carry lane who is supposed to be strong and ranged early. Meantime you could be helping the farmlaner who is not as strong early and needs safety to farm or killpressure to help snowball.
Is there a thought process to some of those bonobos starting mid or am i just butthurt cause I am used to league of legends/wild rift strats?
Starting mid as a support is not the problem. Staying mid is the problem. The support has to immediately move towards the farmlane with the mage to support the weakest teammate in the early game (Farmlaner). If they stay mid, it's the worst thing they can do
For me i only go for farm early if my farm lane get counter
otherwise always start mid or invade enemy jungler.
Cause in some cases enemy jungler more important, meanwhile farm can play safe since roamer provide vision already.
@@stickydusty as far as I understand it is a rotation strat to get a 3 man vs enemy farmlane before the enemy. I don't see a point for the support to help midland otherwise. Plus when u get matched by enemy support it kinda defeats the purpose of the support being mid. You just neutralize the strat assuming you dont die to the 3v2 bot.
@@raphaelchaitas1107 like i said in some cases with spesific occasion mid & roam invade enemy boar then process to go to sideline with lvl 3 mid, jungle come around 1:30 which you already get advantage as early as possible meanwhile farm just little bit behind a gold,
Cutting enemy jungler also allow our jungler invade & then process farm lane early if that's was the plan at beginning.
If u say both roam on mid, one of them obviously go rush on farm after clear a first wave no doubt about it.
This is a tank guide not a roamer/support guide. There are many roamers who cant stun and who aren't a tank also. This was just a liu shan guide imo 😂
True. Couldn't cover everything in one video
@@auberonwizonix and one more thing, your videos helped me a lot in reaching grandmaster so thanks for that!
Can you take samples of character break down stats/description. Example , Angela Burst mage / Dr Bien support mage formation mage .Some characters have mage/assassin. I think that is important. Cal yen is team buff and sport . Thanks again 🙏
So good. Thank you 🔥
The problem when using roamer in solo q is that even if you are stunning the whole enemy team, your team will still lose. It happend today when i was using lian po(i am not sure about the name). And i got mvp.
You should NOT play support in solo queue if you are looking to win. It's very rare to find teammates who will follow up because supporting is all about synergy
Wow it really changes the way I see my self as a support tank player. Thank you.🙇
Thanks for always being there for us newbie, been playing mage since you recommended Heino on past video. But I'm learning tank support for our 5 man games
anyone experience this thing whereby you lose one game and win the other consecutively after reaching diamond?
Great video bro. Really helpful. Thank you
Glad it helped
- They're stupid Untill You Reach Diamond 😹😹😹
9.45k👀👀👀
Man, my brain is finally braining, as i am playing mage now, i totally forget and sometimes attack support, so helpful to be back at basics 😂, different pov are so important
Hampy to helmp vmro
Your videos are good hope you'll get more popular 😊
Hope so too 🤞🏻
I will appreciate a practical hero picking tutorial. ❤️
Will do one asap
Very good breakdown of the ‘tank dilemma’.
can u make a Nezha video ? I have been drafting him into Sun Ce and I believe he was created to counter Sun Ce. His ult is faster than Sun and his passive deals true damage making Sun's passive useless
I will. But talking about countering, they both counter each other. Both can travel across the map to join fights so they basically nullify each other. Sun Ce wouldn't fight Nezha head on so the passive doesn't make much of a difference
You are the best guide on hok that i can find here on TH-cam, it's like going back to my uni days doing engineering, watching endless tutors by Indian professors here on youtube. Thank you once again for the guides🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you so much! Glad to hear that
Great video. Zhuang my go to these days. Mid lane was my go to.. I find myself doing well as a roamer. Yari is the second go to, it depends on my team. Cal yen and Dalia second main . Keep up the guides . 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for sharing!
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Good for newb roamers.
I'm a very experienced support player but... I learned a thing or two watching this vid. 😊
Glad to hear it!
These kind of videos are fantastic, more of these please!
As someone who plays in other moba for quite some time now, I've known most of those play styles already but after transitioning to hok. I'm quite liking the play style and skill sets of the hero Liu Shan and this video gives me some info about that hero that I didn't know yet😊.
Hope you could also make some tips and tricks on some hero
There are a lot of videos in the channel giving tipis and tricks. Check them out!
@@auberonwizonix yeah, I already watch some of those😁
Thats tank explanation on tanking damage is for newbies not for me that is pro. We pros we have what is called locked hero. We locl the hero we want to attack and attack that hero not anyone esle even if hp is low. Lol😅😅
Good for you pro
Bro thats useless if ur damage dealers are being massacred by 2 to 3 hero of the opposing team. You cant always hero lock if u know that your damage dealers are getting a very hard time positioning in team fights.
Why did u die without using your ult.
your videos are doing so great after the global release kudos!
Thank you!
6:21 I use basic attack targeting for this. Just turn on the setting and you can point to whomever you want to attack with your basic attack or skills
Yeah. But usually people don't have it turned on. Even I don't have it turned on even though I know it's a thing. I'm just used to playing this way
@@auberonwizonixI noticed you didn't have it on too in the Luara guide. Though recently a lot of gamers coming from other mobas(especially wildrift) are especially used to this mechanic. I've seen a lot saying they won't play if there's no AA targeting. Still, the guide does have pretty good advices. (I'm also rooting for you 10k sub target)
The partner prgrm code link u gave .. it says it cannot link bcz of rank tier ..
So what sd I do ? .. hs to be same tier or smthing ?
No no. Your account has to be less than 24 hours old for it to work
Btw what was that notification between ( Cute Angel Follower)... 👀
....Cute bro😂
It's a long story. Remind me when I'm live I'll tell you the story
@@auberonwizonix Lol definitely I will😂
Game vilayadave verupa iruku bro. Jio very unstable
I also use Jio. It's stable for me bro
Thank You for the video 🛐
Audio is good.
Glad you liked it!
I completely disagree with the premise of the video as this play style does not apply to all roamers.
For starters there are different kinds of support heroes
Defensive support mage: heroes that scale with magical items whose abilities are centered around survivability of their teammates (heals, more defense, damage reduction, damage redirection, etc)
Offensive support mage: heroes that scale with magical items and are centered in buffing the offensive capabilities of their teammates (buffs to attack, attack speed, porcentual damage, movement speed, etc)
Engage tanks: heroes that are meant to initiate fights and tank the initial damage (they have mobility to close the distance, crowd control to root the enemies in place so your team can dish the damage and survivability mechanics to tank like shields or self healing, etc)
And disengage tanks: heroes that are centered around protecting allies from enemy engages (they have mobility to always be in the right place, some sort of survivability mechanic to protect allies like shields or damage reduction and crowd control to interrupt enemies and allow your teammates to reposition themselves in a team fight or retreat to base)
While laning these four classes are played differently. For example the engage tank is meant to punish the marksman every time he's out of place in relation to his own support with an all out engage and sometimes harass to force a play. While the disengage tank is meant to protect the marksman from ganks and his own engages.
I don't know how what you've just said is not in agreement with what I've said in the video
@@auberonwizonixI think he's talking about how most of the video is about a tank support's job when there's still so much to cover about roamers/ supports like how the video is titled. There were only little things to know about sheilders healers and less about retreat and repositioning champs like Sun Bin and Da Qiao.
Thank you for your insightful comment. After watching the video and reading this comment, I understood 2 things. HOW TO PLAY SUPPORTS from the video and TYPES OF SUPPORTS IN HOK from this comment. One thing that i don't understand is this "Completely Disagree" part. For Eg... The video states that - Support needs to play around the team. So by the law of complete disagreement, Do i need to play all alone? Just wondering 😇
@@RainHaven_ That's not what "Disagreement" is. Yes. There is a lot more. But there is only so much you can say in one video. I just think people like to quote, "I completely disagree with this video".
@@auberonwizonixOh I'm not saying the information in the video is wrong or that these are bad tips. They're not. They're very good tips, but they're not applicable to all roamers and not even all tanks. Just engage tanks. And since you don't mentioned the distinction between the types of roamers well that might cause someone to take an enchanter support and play it like a tank. I disagree with the premise not with the content.
I know you mentioned something at the end of the video, but it's not about initiation only, but the whole play style you're suggesting here only applies to engage tanks.
Sorry if my comment comes out as rude. Not my intention.
Nice guide bro love from ph
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for these videos ✌️
Glad you like them!
Really good guide!
Glad it was helpful!