The DISTURBING Postmortem Of King Edward VI - Henry VIII's Kingly Son
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- One of the greatest tragedies of the Tudor period was the death of Henry VIII’s son and heir Edward VI. The young Tudor King had a horrific death inside of his palace, and he wasted away for months before his death then occurred. But Henry VIII quested greatly for a son and he wanted a male heir more than anything, and it was his third wife Jane Seymour who gave him this. But shortly after giving birth to Edward VI in 1537, Jane died inside the walls of Hampton Court Palace but Edward did survive, but the great hope for the Tudor period did not last too long, and he reigned for only a short number of years, and he was dominated by a regency council meaning Edward VI hardly had any impact on his nation. But what caused the death of Edward VI, let’s have a look at his postmortem.
I always think that when people say they wish they had lived in the past. They wouldn’t if they actually had!
Well, if you did you wouldn't know any better. Unless you are talking about time travel lol. I'm 45 and would have definitely died twice already so personally I'm happy to live now but I do wish things were simpler. I'm a spoiled cushy princess who could not have survived long back then😂
No kidding , it would have brutal and hard very difficult
My grandmother, who died when I was a younger woman, the list of diseases in her baby book was horrifying. I'm now seventy, to give a bit of a timeline, and she was 90 when she died. Childhood illnesses were dreadful.
In my humble and sinful opinion, I do believe that many young children died of many different diseases
I remember having measles. Before they had a jab for it. Mi Mam used to get the shop to put some milk in their ice cream freezer each day so she could cool me down with it as we didn't have a fridge until '74. Temp got up to .2°f below the max before brain damage lol.
She was a Health Visitor though n knew her stuff.
Had Whopping Cough mildly coz the jab made it less worse. Bronchitis galore coz of all the coal fires.
Yup nasty times.
Thank goodness for vaccinations, parents who refuse them should take a walk round ancient churchyards and note the number of childhood deaths.
Though I am a baby boomer and therefore are the “immunized generation” most of our greatest generation parents would never ever imagined not having their children get every single new jab that came along.
Still many of us got the first generation of the MMR. Which they now know to be a vaccine which requires a booster. Despite being immunized one of my brothers and I contracted Mumps in our early teens. To this day more than 5 decades later it’s still one of the most dreadful sick episodes in my life.
“Childhood illnesses” are no joke. As several commenters here have said - go to an old cemetery and you will see many many graves of children at the start of life. Tuberculosis (which has been with humanity since antiquity has killed and continues to kill more people than other infectious diseases which get more attention like plague or malaria ( in 2020 10 million people contracted TB, 1.5 milllion died of it in 2020).
Like influenza and malaria TB continues to be a constant adversary,
@@playnicechannelsee my reply to the other. You got a handful of shots. Kids today get 50 shots by 18. I bet you didn’t get 50. Health doesn’t come from a needle. The immune system is so complex with portals of entry. Vaccines bypass portals of entry and provoke an inflammatory immune response. Doesn’t even imprint on T cells. That’s why you don’t have true immunity and need boosters. Vaccines are a medieval concept when we now know how very complex the immune system is. And since 1986 vaccine manufacturers haven’t been liable for their product. What other product would a smart parent use for which the manufacturer isn’t liable?
omg that shit sounds so miserable and for it to happen to essentially a baby by modern standards is so tragic. poor little king.
The symptoms prior to death
Inability to keep food down,
Inability to control his bowels,
Hair loss, for starters are signs of heavy metal poisoning. What was in his "medications".???
Serious illness, malnutrition could also make you lose your hair. But did they use mercury on the kid?
I am sure he was poisoned. Mary wanted to become Queen.
Could have had several infections at once. Contaminated water giving bowel problems, TB or another respiratory illness. Then secondary/tertiary infections like bacterial pneumonia in a time when antibiotics didn't exist .Sepsis leading to multi organ failure is likely.
@@benjalucian1515 It would be surprising if they didn't.
The cups used contained lead.
This kid went thru hell.
"He was born a healthy child...he was partially deaf and had sight problems and had scoliosis...but he was a healthy child..." 🤷
In other words - those conditions with which he was born (poor sight, hearing and tendency to scoliosis) were not incompatible with a happy childhood and did NOT cause his death.
@@marypower1261 But they were incompatible with actually being healthy.
Being deaf or hard of hearing is hardly unhealthy.@@benjalucian1515
@@juliaforsyth8332 Kid was deaf in one ear, not hard of hearing. At birth. That's a birth defect.
But the reason for his deafness may have come from another condition
Juvenile hearing and sight problems ? congenital syphilis ?
None of his half siblings nor his father's other wives ever had documented symptoms of syphilis
I'm thinking perhaps diseases inherited from his father and all his dalliances.
@@BrennenRaimer Elizabeth had the high forehead of a syphilitic birth.
@@BrennenRaimer Henry did fool around some between Anne and Jane...
@@PogueMahone1 Henry constantly had multiple sexual partners when he was married or was between wives.
One thing I heard was that all the Tudors had a tendency toward TB, but his immune system was fighting it until he got the measles, which has this terrible effect of erasing your immune system's "memory", and the TB went systemic after that.
So, when exactly was he healthy…..??
I guess during those times, he was considered healthy during infancy.
Right? "A healthy child, he had contracted malaria, measels, tuberculosis and random unexplained fevers, and was both hearing and vision impaired."
Yikes. As Caitlin Doughty says, "the Middle Ages were magic!" 🤣
I'm not sure what compels me to keep watching this content but here I am again lol
I never knew of his death symptoms, horribly tragic!
Initially, Edward may have had a good relationship with his half sister Mary, however as religious tensions mounted, and he became more radical in his protestant views, Edward attempted to force Mary to give up the Catholic Faith. He also insisted she stop attending Catholic Mass even in private, which she never did. This lead to all kinds of unhappy conflicts between them. If Edward had lived, there is no doubt England would have adopted the extreme forms Calvinistic protestantism instead of the more moderate Anglican approach to protestant Christianity.
Mary was his godmother. What happened was both of them were radicalized by their tutors, who were themselves religious fanatics. As much as Catholics hated Elizabeth, she was a pragmatic Protestant and was willing to live and let live with her Catholic subjects as long as they didn't try to kill her. They would have hated Edward even more if he had lived longer, since he wanted to force his rigid brand of Protestantism on England.
@@ladyv5655Elizabeth is famous for the remark not to make windows into men’s souls. That was real big of her, considering she lived in an intolerant age. Catch either Edward or Mary saying that.
All the paintings looks so different.. I wonder what he actually looked like. Some of them may have been painted after his death by those who just read what he looked like, and hadn't actually seen him.. I don't know for sure, but it seems odd.
Probably the chubby one
Most chubby kids turn really skinny after they hit puberty.
Thats probably one of the many factors.
The video noted that once he became ill, he'd become incredibly thin-and before he'd been described as a "well fed child," so likely why the change of appearance. The ears is what stood out most to me in almost every painting-all similar, and atypical.
The one commonality that all the portraits share, however, are his rather unusually shaped ears, so I would imagine that, in reality, his ears would have looked a little odd.
I came down with most of the childhood diseases one right after the other, and I was never healthy enough to vaccinate for any period of time when children are usually vaccinated. Despite all of this, to my amusement, I have autism. When they don't infuriate me, the antivaxxer's obsession with vaccines = autism amusing.
It sounds like there wasn't very much the Edward didn't catch or experience. Sad.
I haven’t come across any compelling evidence that Edward had scoliosis. Richard III, definitely yes.
I had TB in my tweens but it was curable at that point. It took seven months but that was decades ago. It is unfortunate that he died so young but l find it puzzling that he was so committed to the protestant cause as it had only existed in England since his father's marriage to Anne Boleyn. It was an expediant Henry used to circumvent the Pope who refused to bless the union due to his first wife, Catherine of Aragon, still being alive.
He looks like a different person in each of his portraits! In some of them he’s very skinny, in others he’s chubby, in some his eyes are light blue, in others they look brown, his hair goes from light blonde to dark brown… so what did Edward really look like? Lol
No cameras back then and painting is like handwriting - everyone does it a bit different. Contrast the styles of Diego Velazquez and Dominikos Theotokopoulos, better known as "El Greco". Same era, radically different styles.
@@DoubleDogDare54 I totally agree with you about the different styles, however I think that the eye and hair color should be pretty consistent.
Some children appear to have blue eyes as babies /toddlers until their eyes darken.to brown. Same with their hair, a tow headed child can have their hair darken to brown as they grow older.
@@sadjaxx Yes, you are right, but these portraits were done when he was much older, so his eye and hair color were established by then. Unless, of course, he decided to change his contact lenses and dye his hair - lol 😝
I suspect he was ginger like his father and sister Elizabeth were reported to be.
Her remarkable history is only remarkable in its inaccuracies. His early death was a lucky escape for the country.
Yes! He was a religious extremist
Right into the arms of Mary, who was one too
unlike his replacement..
I always wondered if the swelling of legs was blood clots as I get them, and have German royal blood in me and my grandmother has hemophilia so much bad health from inbreeding.... mine is called Factor V Lieden, I personally think he had many issues with his health including TB possibly cancer and blood clots maybe a Pulmonary embolism or infection and dvts of the legs and TB
Blood clots are also a consequence of some bacterial and viral infections (like COVID-19).
@@allangibson8494 I have been getting them since 2001 and last one I had knock on wood was 2018 so no Covid and my hematologist said not to get the vaccine as have had so very many clots.....but this like my Grandma is from inbreeding it is a bad thing
German, and hemophilia?? Any chance you are related to the S-C-Goethe's (Queen Victoria)?
@@manuellubian5709 well yes through intermarrying my full name on birth certificate is Wilhelmina Carlotta Johanna Gräfin von Marquart Fugger Wittelsbach und Arnim, so bad health is very much always been a issue with my family for forever
My Nan used to tell me about Henry the 8th and his Six Wives when I was younger .This got me into history don't know why she told me about though .
Sounds like an inelegant women
As a warning about marrying the wrong man no matter how much money he has?
English monarchy inbreeding has had some serious consequences.
Henry VIII and Jane Seymour, (Edward’s parents) were FIFTH cousins. Henry VII and Elizabeth of York (Henry VIII’s parents) were also FIFTH cousins. That means they shared Great Great Great Grandparents…. We’re hardly on the verge of incest here.
He was deaf, short sighted, one shoulder, shorter than the other, and a swollen head? sounds like, Quasimodoarightus.
You may want to correct this: Jane Grey was not Edward’s first cousin. Her mother, Frances Brandon, was Edward’s first cousin, as she was the daughter of his father’s younger sister Mary, and Charles Brandon.
his dad tortured 57000 people to death.. forgive me gaining little distress from his fate...
So the kid is responsible for what his Dad did. What a sad little vindictive world you must live in.
Lack of hygienic can cause many problem Health
What do you mean by that?
@@mikeoglen6848 the Tudor time hasnt take seriously about hygienic even the rich one ..even they got poop Theres always someone takecare of it 🤮 call Knigt of privy “euuu 🤢, even King Henry got bath twice a year 🤢 and the fatter He was the more smelly wounded knee so does his son got TB
Is it necessary to continue with the Tudor nicknames, such as "Bloody Mary"? If you want blood, all the Tudors were specialists.
1st cousin once removed. Jane's mother Frances was Edwards 1st Cousin.
Well when was he well?? My bets on poison.
Doctors used mercury and arsenic based medicines. They probably meant well, as the penalty for deliberate poisoning was to be boiled alive.
Depends who you were whether Edward's death was a tragedy!
It’s amazing the various ways that the king was depicted it makes you wonder what the hell did he look like?
Thin gaunt? Or pudgy round? Poor bugger really never had a chance to do anything except be a good boy and listen to uncle 👑
The symptoms have some similarities with TB but I don't believe that was the only cause. You mention an earlier episode of Measles. That was well-known and well-described by the 1550s. It is possible that this became encephalitis which can even happen today in our anti-biotic sterile world and in turn if untreated leads to sepsis. Some of the symptoms also suggest an auto-immune response which is possible that Tudor medicine may have induced. However, we should not exclude deliberate and malevolent poisoning. Although the death of any young person is regrettable and although you confidently state that decisions in his name were really the policy of his council and regent I don't accept this in all parts. Edward held very extreme beliefs relating to the protestant revelation clearly expressed by his failed attempt to change his father's Act of Succession. He made no concessions to the old orthodox religion of medieval England and he was far distant from his father's view on religion which saw the church (both of England and of Rome) as merely a cash cow of the royal treasury. Had he lived the golden age of Elizabeth may possibly never happened.
Poor little guy.
both his ssters were short sighted too
The number of wives and heirs who just up and died in British history is ridiculous. After all, they had the cleanest environment and best food and water available. You have to assume foul play in many cases. No fun being born royal.
Ugh, click bait. The disturbing postmortem is only a last 2 minute blip on the video.
Does tuberculosis cause your hair, and nails to fall out?
That could be a sign of immune system collapse I believe.
It can also be a result of a prolonged high fever.
I lost quite a lot of hair myself after a nasty case of Covid. I'm just glad it grew back!
This kid was like Typhoid Mary !
Wore glasses?!
Re: Glasses:
A concise history of spectacles. One of the first recorded pair of glasses were made in 1284 by Salvino D'Armate in Italy. The lenses were made of glass or a crystal like stone with a handle to hold them up to your eyes (scissor glasses frame and later lorgnette glasses).
@@PoserAddictsLLCinteresting. The glasses made me do a double take too.
The symptoms that he suffered leads me to believe that he could have been suffering from more than one disease.
Coughing up blood along with appearing very thin is classic TB symptoms for sure. However, the swelling of his belly sounds more like a parasitic infection. The swelling of his limbs makes me think of renal failure. It sounds to me he could have been suffering several very serious medical conditions happening at once. Its hard to pinpoint which disease led to his renal failure.
It didn't help that he was very sick as a younger child. It's probably why he became so sick prior to his death.
His last days on earth must have been miserable. It would have been tough for people today with modern day advancement of medicine. I can't imagine how bad it would have been for him. He would have had the best of care that their medical science could offer.
Only other person that may have received better medical care would have been the pope or equivalent.
That medical care would have included herbal concoctions, poultices and bleeding. It was said that King Charles II died at the hands of his doctors who bled him to death.
He might have had hepatitis which would damage the liver and cause ascites or fluid in the abdomen. I Have seen this in alcoholics in the terminal stages of their illness.
@@redmi9834 I had thought of that. What kept me from mentioning it, wouldn't he need to have had hepatitis for around ten to twenty year before the disease kill his liver?
He would either had to been born with it or catch it from sexual contact at a very young age.
If it was congenital, I would think one or both parents would have shown symptons.
Maybe he was SA when he was a young child? I believe this is the likely scenario considering the year he was born. There were no one to teach him the difference between good touch and bad touch.
Even if he did know, who would he go to to report them to? The person that was allowed to have such close contact would have been someone with high status.
He lost his battle at the age of sixteen? He could have been exposed to it between the ages of three and nine. It's a good possibility.
@@minraja Hepatitis can also be contracted through the blood, and in that time a common medical practice was "bleeding" a patient - actually cutting them and draining some of their blood. And of course they didn't know anything about the necessity of keeping things clean, so there would have been traces of the blood of who knows how many patients on a doctor's instruments. That's just one non-sexual way that I can easily think of someone in the Tudor era contracting hepatitis.
Also, there are strains of the virus that can be transmitted through contaminated water or food. They're not something you'd have to worry about in most of North America or Europe, but there are parts of Central and South America where you can catch those strains of hepatitis just by drinking the water.
There's no reason to assume that everything is related to SA when there are other, much more likely causes!
@@thing_under_the_stairs Why didn't his siblings, nobles at court, his parents, and servants catch it? They ate the same food. Drink the same water. Use the same doctor. (Not the servants with the doctor). Yet he was the only one infected. I do know how hepatitis is transmitted. I don't see any evidence that suggest he had hepatitis.
You can also catch hepatitis by eating certain kinds of shellfish as well.
Poor boy.
I don't think that the 42 Articles supports the idea that Edward had little impact on the country.
He didn't write them himself.
@@faramir he had them written! Monarchs don't generally write laws themselves, they tell the lawyers what they want to achieve with a law and then it's drafted and approved.
@@shellieeyre8758 Yes, I was a civil servant myself so I'm aware that the head of the government doesn't write all the laws themselves. But the 42 articles were resented to the Council in Nov 1552, when Edward had just turned 15, and no doubt they took some time to write, so were started when he was even younger. Even a clever and well-read boy, as Edward was, is unlikely to have determined much of the substance beyond that they should be Protestant. The driving force was Cranmer, the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Edward's main contribution to them was being alive and young, so that the country was effectively ruled by his Protectors, Somerset and then Northumberland, who were Protestants. His sister Mary dumped the Articles [and had Cranmer burned] when she became Queen, so had Edward not been born the articles would not have come into being. But on the substance, what mattered was the Archbishop rather than the King, and Cranmer was installed under Henry VIII.
I wonder if he was being poisoned by some sort of radioactive chemical. I know that back then, nobody knew about radioactive stuff, but since his nails and hair were falling out, it makes me wonder. Maybe mercury but I don't know about that.
He looks very like his father😊😊😊
He was a despot like his father. He died the way he lived.
He died at FIFTEEN!!! He lived in pain and sickness his whole life whilst being influenced, radicalised and manipulated by power hungry, untrustworthy and unscrupulous adults with no parents, siblings who wanted to usurp him and a whole country to run! Most of which happened before puberty.
Are you the same person that you were at 15? If you’d died that young, would you like to have been remembered for decisions you’d made under the influence of others?
He might have got things wrong, but Edward was a literal child. No one deserves the pain and suffering that he endured in his lifetime.
Was the malaria contracted in England ? 🤔
Apparently, malaria was fairly common in England. It has always struck me as odd, too
Better climate then. They had vinyards.@@gloriamontgomery6900
Norfolk in particular was an area with alot of malaria.
You barely discuss the postmortem
Was Edward VI lean, chubby, or both at different times?
Both at different times. He was a well fed child who suffered from frequent and serious bouts of illness. His weight must’ve constantly yo-yo’d from one extreme to the other.
For someone with an English accent it’s odd to me the speaker uses the additional ‘of’. For example, ‘inside of the palace’ or ‘inside of the garden’. Would not just ‘inside the palace’ or ‘in the garden’ be easier & simpler? Why be more verbose than needed?
However, this Americanism is common parlance among young British speakers of English.
Because the narrator is trying to sound more posh for the purpose of the video.
What iolness would cause your nails to all pop off, in the 16th Century?
Bumped off with arsenic.
The June 1553 illness also sounds like radiation sickness or radiation poisoning. Just saying 🤷♂️
Yes, but from what source during that era?
THECHILDHOOD DISEASES DROPPED DRAMATICALLY AFTER TH WE USE IF VACCINATIOND
Yes, but tell that to idiot anti-vaxxers who say vaccines give you autism and make you magnetic.
*AND THE DISCOVERY OF PENICILLIN*
ps. Why are we shouting?
ts called Karma for the evils Henry V111 did1
Would you like to be held responsible for your parents mistakes, shortcomings and bad decisions?
Why didn't any of the popular hatred of Anne Boleyn transfer to Jane Seymour?
I think partly because she was quiet and obedient (therefore, not Anne), and partly because, with Anne's death, there was no doubt the marriage with Jane would be unquestionably valid.
Because by then they realised that Henry was the problem imo
She died giving birth to a son. That made her pretty much an angel.
Catherine of Aragon had passed away during Anne’s marriage to Henry, so by Church law (both protestant and catholic), Jane’s marriage to Henry was legal.
Kathryn of Aragon was dead…marriage to Anne was adultery, but with Jane he was free to marry
Why did Henry the 8 and his son wear a crown 👑.
Because they were kings
England and Scotland will never be together .
Take a look at Wiki on the subject of the Act of Union of 1707. The majority of the Scottish people were against it. The English Tory party was against it. There was rioting in the towns in Scotland and marshall law declared in some places. Scotland was said to be a failed state and its union with England was said to be like a necessary arranged marriage that neither party really wanted. From that time the relationship between England and Scotland has been like an unhappy marriage with Scotland periodically wanting to discuss and arrange a divorce. The history of Wales since Plantaginate times has been much the same history. They have been and still are like an irritable bowel syndrome in the belly of England.
Who writes these scripts? Whilst there is much good stuff: a lot comes across as a poorly written GCSE paper
And he was not always sickly BUT the King did love him greatly??
He was not ill all the time and is often considered because he died at a young age????
Are you simply too lazy to listen over your narration and correct your mistakes?
Bravo. You have lowered yourself to the TH-cam standard of (il)literacy.
I know you can do much better. But if no one points it out, you won't lol
As to his death poisoning by his sister's who craved power. As for her history all I can bluntly say is get accurate and do your research with references which you obviously have not. Thumbs down 👎
FINALLY A BRIT THAT SAYS "6TH" CORRECTLY!!! instead of sick-th. Lol😅
Using the word Brit disqualifies you as an expert speaker in English.
@@lorraineforster8164 pffft how so? It's pretty common but clearly triggered you. 😅
@@ZiggyWhiskerzI enjoyed this exchange. Looked the word Brit up and learned it was first recognized about 1900. Commonly used. Then I saw the comment about you not being an expert speaker in English. This led me to how many dialects of English there are in only the UK, where English medieval folks got it going. There are approximately 40. I do wonder now, which one is THE one. Maybe Lorraine knows.
@@Smooshes786 their comment that I'm NoT aN ExPeRt SpEaKeR based off their own emotional response to a valid word that's used here in the states is funny to me. Like, we all have different dialects that are all valid.
My original comment was simply based off a pet peeve of mine when I hear "sick-th". But I guess that just went over the other commenter's head. 😅
@@ZiggyWhiskerz They aren’t “triggered” by being called a Brit. We’re proud of that. They are triggered by a presumptuous Yank telling native English speakers how to pronounce words in a language that they have mutilated almost beyond recognition.