Kind of story time/kind of educational. If there's any takeaway from all this, it's ALWAYS keep "receipts." Proof of what people say and pay your bills electronically so you can keep your bills in your email - and of course, have your name on a lease. Hope ya liked the video, guys! I'll try to have another video up this weekend to make up for the seriousness of this one! P.S. If you are knowledgeable in the collection process and can share some insight, please do feel free to email me. Cheers!
edwin, one time my husband went to small claims and the defendant didn’t show up... my husband won... years later... the defendant went to buy a house and since he had a judgement against him he had to clear everything before getting acceptance for the mortgage... so he had to pay... it was about five years later my husband got a check in the mail... so if he ever tries to get a mortgage then you’ll for sure get paid then...
jedi fawn Yep. If someone decides to not pay their judgement, if they ever want a house or anything nice in life they must clear them up! It just doesn’t pay to not pay what you owe, especially when a judgment is put on you. Someone literally owes me $30K. I know they can’t afford it. The law doesn’t care. You make a payment plan you pay when you can. You can’t blow it off but a lot of ppl do and get screwed in the end. Greed is a sad thing and also throwing away a human for some cash (which normally isn’t as high as mine!) is even sadder.
I know I don't know Edwin personally or any of you guys, but this comment and the reply comments to this comment just made my day!! I'm so freakin happy that at least in the end the defendant is going to get screwed way worse than if he had just settled everything maturely in the beginning! :D So so so happy for you guys!!
This was so helpful and I've never seen a youtuber make a story time in such a way that they are also educating their audience! This was helpful to me, and I'm sure many others! Sad how much I relate to this video
Howsenselessdeath Howpreciouslife h3h3 has similar videos cuz they got sued themselves actually over “fair use” / “copyright infringement” BS... if you’re interested. I would suggest searching “h3h3 court case” or “Ethan and Hila fair use court”
Oh jeez, the next step is garnishing the persons wages, BUT it’s worth it in the long run. So finish your paperwork. People who don’t pay back debts deserve it. You are a good guy, and smart too. You deserve to get paid back! Good luck and keep us updated.
that's actually really interesting; I always wondered how any of the plaintiffs suing people for say... months of unpaid rent, would ever go about actually getting their money. Good to know there are actually options.
ilikepiratesroar Yes, and then the court will take a percentage of your wages. Problem is: many people get paid in cash or direct check. Then when the court finds out they somehow get chastised. Same with when people don’t pay child support except child support is not a civil matter thus they can criminally penalize those cases.
@@Mytube777 I m not from the US, but I think this problem exists there too. If the person, who has to give you the money, has no work and no money, you will not get anything. I have the same problem, my exboyfriend has to give me 20.000€ (and another 10.000€, but atm the court is not finished on this), but he has official no work and no money. Because of this I have to pay the 30.000€ without getting anything back from him, it does not matter, if it s my right, that he had to give the money. On the other side, I have to pay the 30.000€ - there it does not matter, that I have no money (I study at university and have 400€ in a month). These laws are just terrible and destroy small people, who did nothing wrong, while save criminals.
@@natedog69420 Yes and no. He had a car crash with a car, that run under my name without me knowing this at this time and because of that the car had no insurance anymore. So I have to pay for the damage. Plus he got a lot of traffic Tickets for driving too fast or driving on the Highway without paying the taxes for it and such things in this time periode. These (a few thousands) I had to pay too in a certain time or I had to go to prison for.
This is not the kind of video I usually watch on youtube but it was very entertaining and helpful as well! I am actually considering suing my neighbors so yeah this kind of info comes in handy for me, thanks.
Legally you don't have to be in the lease, if you receive mail at that address they absolutely have to give you 30 days! We just went through this! Edited to add that you should ALWAYS try to put your name on the lease though.
I don't normally comment but My fiancé and I are going through two cases that could take years. He got mauled by a dog and the owner ran trying to leave us in quart mil in debt but we found her. The court case is taking forever but it's gonna soon happen. 2nd was a hit and run (we're still healing from the injuries) We recently found the guy who hit us. Both people that we are suing are trying to fabricate what really happened saying that they stayed or they tried to get into contact with us. Hopefully the judges sees through their BS. It takes a lot to sue because it's not as easy as hiring a lawyer to win the case for you. I had/have to do research on the law myself to make what I have to say stronger. Good luck to you! I hope it's better than ours!
Pay the extra fees and let them garnish his wages. I personally dont think he has the money to pay you but he shpuld be a man about it and communicate that to you. Get your mpney and be done with him. Best wishes.
If you really want you can refile for failure to comply with the court order and if a judge sees your way, they can be held in contempt of court and maybe get jail time as punishment. great video too.
It's not contempt to not pay a judgment. It's contempt if you find an asset he owns, get a signed order from the judge (aka turnover order) and then he doesn't give you the asset. Debtor prisons are no longer a thing
Since you won he will have to pay eventually. If he ever needs credit for a big purchase, say a car or a home he will have to pay. But if you do take the extra steps which, I personally would take if you have the money to, they will collect all the money from garnishing his wages or acquisitions from his bank account. It’s a process and it’s not easy, but at the end you get what you are owed. Just one will take longer than the other.
You can now legally place a lien on their property since you have a court order showing the debts owed to you ( this will screw up their credit if they have property on credit ), if they have no property to lien on, you can legally garnish their wages.
I had to sue someone last year who hit my car. Through the insurance they were saying it was partially my fault and wanted to give me a fraction of the amount of money that it would cost to fix my car. Negotiation was denied from his side and getting him served was this whole other story. I won though and walked away with 4grand.
KING OF RECEIPTS, YES!! P.S.: What's really sad is that in an old video you said you hope you and him would be friends again in the future. People change depending on who they are surrounded by, I guess. I hope he at least has the decency to give you your money back after the emotional hell they put you through, directly or indirectly.
Oh, yes. In 2018 we 100% not only get rid of toxic people, but call them out. (Obviously this isn't a call out, but I've been hearing things that may require a call out real soon)
HAHA THE PEOPLE'S COURT. So, what they do is they look through public records and find interesting cases and contact them to be on the show. A while ago, some girl came into the vet's office that I worked for to collect all her dog's records because she was going onto the show for money related to a previously shared dog with her ex. She told us a bit about the experience. She also came back later and told us more. She said it was a really good experience. Also, maybe pay back Edwin Cyr? And if you don't have the $ at the moment maybe, talk to him about it Cyr? - Also congrats Edwin on your Bachelor's degree! That's pretty cool. It's a shame Cyr that you wouldn't give that back. That rubs me the wrong way.
damn, you're dragging this story behind you like a tail. one would think it ended, but apparently some people are really shit. good luck to you papi. i hope it will solve out soon bc honestly you and Mina deserve to forget about them forever
Edwin, I feel you on this one. I had a similar situation, except it hasn't even been a year since it's happened to me and he wasn't even my best friend at all. He was a person I met once and 2 yrs later, he became my roommate and HE was the one that needed a place to stay. So, I kindly took him in because he had a job. But 3 yrs later, he stopped paying me rent and bills, even after he signed a lease with the apartment complex and signed a WRITTEN agreement with me. He owes me $3500 in back rent, including bills. He became full of excuses and he started avoiding me, hiding in his bedroom, changing the subject each time I was asking him about the rent money and the bills. Then he found out that I sued him in small claims court and because he never showed up in court, I filed a default claim and, of course, had all my evidence and the judge ruled in my favor but he is nowhere to be found. Needless to say, I won't give up! However, it would be my luck if I found out where he is and where he's working. But, oh well!!! Karma will get him either way!
This guy has a very pleasant personality and is not showing anger, which is kind of hard to understand how he's not angry, but, it is admirable. Nice sharing of this.
It’s incredible how some people really do take advantage of others. Some thing similar happened to me with an ex and it was a significant amount of $ ... I figured I might not get it back because he cut off communication but I’ll try court. I guess we’ll see what happens. So glad it worked out for you.
Can’t wait til you get the justice my dude. It’ll feel so fucking good when you get that money. He’s such a coward,... I’m so inspired by you pursuing / putting the effort into standing up for yourself and getting what’s yours. Can’t wait for an update. Good luck!!
Hearing this helped me further conceptualize how law would work in an anarchist society. People want to know who they're hiring/who they're buying from, so they'll want to verify their identity. An organization could exist which builds a reputation for verifying information about the identity of people who register with it, and employers would make it a requirement that they get verified with a trusted identity organization first. Then, if someone steals something, you can ask them to go to court, and if they fail to show up and you have a good case, their name will be tarnished until they repay their debts, and you could get them potentially get them fired if they have enough debt to their name (or murdered/raped someone) or something like that. Or people could just choose not to lend them money, or any number of things you'd normally do to voluntarily resolve disputes like this.
Diao Chan Don't borrow money that you can't pay back. At least he was shown true colors. Rather have dependable friends honestly (I don't mean this comment in a sassy tone in case it comes off that way)
Hope you end up getting your money, Edwin! It really sucks that it had to come to this, especially since he was your bestfriend. Good for you for standing up for yourself ♡♡♡♡
Legit going through this right now. Thank you for this video it's making me feel more secure that I can get some kind of justice for the money this girl has cost me
The main point or problem is that you don’t get paid back. They’ll work under table, put their cars in their kids name, and I imagine they aren’t going to buy house. How sue someone with nothing? You can’t. Can ppl with nothing damage property? Yes
I’m 28 and I sued someone in small claims court a few years ago for not paying for petsitting services. I also got a letter from a show- Judge Mathis! Haha they have people who go through the public records and look for cases like ours. Anyway, I went to court, they didn’t show, the judge ruled in my favor. All I had for evidence were Facebook chat messages between the woman and I agreeing on time period and price and messages I sent while she was out of town with updates on her pets. I watched her dogs and cat for 2 weeks while she was in Thailand for a friends wedding. I knew her from volunteering at a local animal shelter, so she wasn’t just a random person. She did the whole “oh I’ll meet you at this time to give you a check” then bailed, told me she sent it but never did, etc etc. I hesitated on going to court, but it was a decent amount of money and I had just moved into a house (I actually postponed my move in date because I was petsitting for her) so I really needed the money. After the judge ruled in my favor, they sent her a letter telling her she had to pay within x amount of days. The judge had awarded interest with his decision, so the longer she waited, the more it increased. She didn’t pay. I went back to the courthouse and had them send her another letter which basically said if you don’t pay within 2 weeks, your wages will be garnished. She didn’t pay. So I went and filed the paperwork to have her wages garnished. The way they do that is the county files paperwork with their employer and the employer sends money to the county from their paycheck, before they even get it. They dont take it in one big chunk because they have to leave money for them to live on. I had the bulk of the payments within a few months. I got the final payment the next April, after tax day when I guess the county was like oh here’s some more we forgot to send or something haha. In the end, she ended up paying about $400 more than she would have had to pay. The thing is, I love petsitting and I knew her. If she had told me she couldn’t afford it, I would’ve accepted payments over time or whatever. I’m not unreasonable. But instead, she was sketchy and lied. She’s in her 40s and has a daughter my age. I doubt she’d be happy if someone did that to her daughter. Anyway, it seems sort of tedious and annoying, but persistence pays off! The reason people don’t get their money is they forget to file paperwork on time or they don’t do it at all. Keep at it and you’ll eventually get paid!
Right that's the thing, nobody wants to go through with this stuff! Thanks for your story! It gives me hope to see that it doesn't all have to be so complicated. I think I'll go into the courthouse next time to ask about it personally because over the phone it was extremely confusing.
i was listening to this video over my car speakers on my commute to work bc somehow i missed this one? and had to stop to get some gas. the girl in the car at the pump next to me turned and said, “is that Edwin? I love his videos!” haha i started freaking out and we bonded over your videos for like 5 minutes!!!! love u and mina!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I remember watching Cyr grow years and years ago. He was awesome, real original content. It seems like ever since he got with that person he just doesn’t care or give a shit about dignity anymore- let alone his channel. Hope he’s happy.
Great video! I'm not in California so don't know the laws there but most jurisdictions have a process for collecting debts. It involves filling out more paperwork and waiting but in the end they either pay you or their wages/property are used to pretty you and/or become bankrupt.
Thank you so much for this information. I've heard it is very difficult to collect but I did not understand why exactly. Its very unfortunate that you had to lose a friend over all of this. I hope you guys go on the People's court so you both can win~
And what I learned because I recently was in a couple similar situations, as a resident in that house you can legally break in and get your possessions if your roommate hasn't given you proper 30 days written notice. If your roommate calls the cops on you, they won't arrest you because you are a resident that wasn't given proper notice.
Best way to end any relationship, lend them money. Lol they’ll never talk to you again. 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ ps I’m very sorry this happened to you, I’ve experienced it before but it was never a crazy amount of money. I don’t believe in lending people anymore. I’ll buy them gifts, pay for dinner and other shit and they’ll do the same back but nope. I’ve seen money destroy my family and I’ve seen it ruined friendships.
Rae Annabelle I live by the same rule. If, and that’s a big if, I ever loan anyone money, it’s money I don’t absolutely need to live on. I loan it with the expectation that I’ll never get it back. I never consider buying someone dinner, a movie ticket, or other smallish item as a loan. You’re just asking for trouble by expecting to be paid back for things like that. Plus, I don’t believe anything is a loan unless the parties agree beforehand that it’s a loan.
Dudecito, call up the people's court, since you are both social media influencers they will still take you and if the deadbeat shows up he can clear his debt, its in his best interest to go too. On the flip side you are doing so well out of Cyr's shadow, hope you don't dwell on what a creep he is too much, just thinking about him is going to take you to a dark place.
I’m glad that you are suing. I wouldn’t get your hopes up about seeing anything. Something happened to me where an acquaintance stole my debit card. We had her face on camera, and filed a claim. I won by default, however it was up to me to find what assets she owned that were equal to the amount owed. Unfortunately you cannot get blood from a stone.
Didn't you say you can add fees related to the case? If you can, why not just add it? He's being difficult and its costly, he should be the one paying for what he's done
Dang, poor emo papi Edwin and the Ex-Bf drama -betrayal- You have your Gf, you have a friend in Damon, you have the Generation Force, and you can still make team Costa at your earliest convenience. you'll recover in time. #downwithtoxicgirlfriendsandfriendships
Going through this. 10 years ago paid a lawyer for a friend $50k. He recently won a settlement for $1.1 million and refuses to pay me back. Have letters from him over the years telling me as soon as he gets the money I will be paid back. Now I will have to file this myself. Lawyers telling me I am past 3 year statute of limitation.
I wish you all the best Edwin! even though it seemed like a breeze filing a claim against you ex best friend, I bet it was incredibly tiring emotionally. I hope this drama ends for your sake! you seem like an awesome person and you deserve justice! btw I'm a new sub!
Winning a case and getting them to pay are equally as difficult. You have to folloe through after the win. Suppose to garnish their wages, which means there's like a tax on their wage. They literally might not have the money at first. But the "tax" will be attached to their social security, so when they get a LEGIT job (some ppl get paid under table), part of their wage will always be sent to you.
Don't give up file that complicated paperwork and finish him! Lol I believe in you this has helped inspire me to try to follow through with a discrimination issue I've been having at work! I've been dreading having to compile my evidence I've accumulated for the EEOC because I don't want to have to think about or relive what I've been dealing with but I need to suck it up and follow through.
Omg!! Hey I’m from Arizona too. So many likable ppl are from here ! So my roommate left me midway through the lease in college to go back home to California. I wanted to sue her but I ended up never doing it because I didn’t know how to but omg it was so stressful! My grades definitely suffered that semester. Thanks for this informational video
Well, It seems like YOU have to give her a date. Decide how much time you'll give her, and tell her that if she doesn't pay, you will sue her and file the papers the day after your end date. That is what I did, and it worked, I got my money 3 days before the last day. 🙂
I'm a former collection representative that worked for a large, well known bank. I've also won a judgment against someone. The only way to get your money back is to file for garnishment. IF he has a regular job, and you know where he works, you can file to garnish his wages. If he's self employed or a contractor, it's a lot harder to garnish. You can file the summary judgment at his bank, but you'll need his bank info to do this. Otherwise, unless he applies for a mortgage, you'll never see it. Didn't he say that his credit was bad and that's why his brother cosigned on the appartment? if that's true, he doesn't care anymore and has no intention of paying.
i had a similar experience... i moved out of a place where i lived with a friend. we had a really bad fall out because she'd been emotionally abusive for a long time and i was finally standing up for myself. she did not like that one bit. there was money her boyfriend (who also lived there) owed me that i never saw, and she didn't give me back my bond money either. which was a lot. she was sending me abusive emails, so i just let her keep the money to shut her up. if someone was going to stoop that low i didn't want to bother with them anyway. not saying that that's what you should do... you're brave for suing
Sadly I gotta take a “friend” to court, I invested $6k with him last year and 8 months later and still nothing, told him I’m okay just breaking even but it’s nothing but excuses smh
i wanna sue my old roommate cuz he would harass me, try forcing marriage onto me, assaulted me, started withholding rent and utilities because i wouldn't marry him or give him attention. he also is a king pin drug dealer, and threatened to have people go after me if i nark on him. but he then said if we broke the lease, he would pay all the fees and pay me back what he owed, as long as i didn't nark on him. and being afraid and foodstamps broke, i agreed to it. but now he blocked me on fb and refuses to answer to the debt collector for him SQUATTING FOR TWO MONTHS AFTER I LEFT. omgggggggggggg
@ well I didn’t know he was THAT until I lived with him, but he roomed with me because he thought he could force a relationship onto me living together :/
Hey I think you should consider the extra paperwork and fees if you have the money and time. I heard it’s quite worth it in the end. Please keep us updated as this has been quite educational to me. Much love Edwin 💓.
I am going through a similar case with someone i paid to develop an app for me. Its 4 years later and no app. I paid him 10k and he has returned 5k but i guess he expected me to shut up and be happy because he is now ignoring my messages. Just like you said, they hope you will forget and move on. Well i wont. He lives in Miami and I live in California. This video has given me hope though because I will now be pressing charges against him in That county. Only question is how do i serve him if i dont have an address?
The power of receipts. I keep telling my brother, "Keep your receipts, just cause they love you don't mean they won't fucknyou over!" But he never does. Now he's living with me and his ex has everything. I keep all my receipts in a little file and usually flashing it is enough to get my money that I'm owed pretty quick. Hope shot workouts for you Edwin.
Hello, This was so good & helpful. I am taking someone to court who asked for a $2,000+ loan. Now for them to pay me back when they Claimed they would & refusing to pay me. they was given enough time to pay back the loan. I get threatened & cussed out for my own hard earned money. I have all my paperwork & proof, evidence. I am ready! to take them to court Glad I found out this video will let you know how it goes
@@missdesireindependance5194 hey. I won my case. they got scared and never showed up. now that person is in judea n default for 20+ years they can't get or own anything til they pay me back my money. n I got a court order for loss wages
@@AfricanGirl I’m in the same situation. I know I can win my judgment but I don’t know if the judge will garnish the wages of someone who is on child support. I don’t want to lose money taking my ex to court.
@@missdesireindependance5194 hey. noo you will not loose money because all the money you spent on court fees he will have to pay you back that money. nothing will go or be against u. Google child support courts system. don't worry u will win
Very good overview! My friend and I have both passed through similar situations. My friend had to evict two of her roommates but went through the proper procedure to do so. She is now looking to collect what she owes them. Let me know if you want to know more .
Kind of story time/kind of educational. If there's any takeaway from all this, it's ALWAYS keep "receipts." Proof of what people say and pay your bills electronically so you can keep your bills in your email - and of course, have your name on a lease. Hope ya liked the video, guys! I'll try to have another video up this weekend to make up for the seriousness of this one!
P.S. If you are knowledgeable in the collection process and can share some insight, please do feel free to email me. Cheers!
Edwins Generation glad you won!! 💘 I hope you get some closure in that! Congrats! 🎂 👑
Edwins Generation i can help you in that department:) I'll shoot you an email, hopefully it will help.
Edwins Generation the only email i can find is your business address, hope thats ok😆
Edwins Generation I went through the same thing, always keep receipts
I'm filing an ex he owe me $360 and another $300 for a speaker he took and claims it was damaged and thrown away...which document do you fill out?
edwin, one time my husband went to small claims and the defendant didn’t show up... my husband won... years later... the defendant went to buy a house and since he had a judgement against him he had to clear everything before getting acceptance for the mortgage... so he had to pay... it was about five years later my husband got a check in the mail... so if he ever tries to get a mortgage then you’ll for sure get paid then...
jedi fawn Just gotta wait five years
jedi fawn Yep. If someone decides to not pay their judgement, if they ever want a house or anything nice in life they must clear them up! It just doesn’t pay to not pay what you owe, especially when a judgment is put on you. Someone literally owes me $30K. I know they can’t afford it. The law doesn’t care. You make a payment plan you pay when you can. You can’t blow it off but a lot of ppl do and get screwed in the end. Greed is a sad thing and also throwing away a human for some cash (which normally isn’t as high as mine!) is even sadder.
Same thing goes for a car loan. So if this guy ever needs a car he needs to pay.
I know I don't know Edwin personally or any of you guys, but this comment and the reply comments to this comment just made my day!! I'm so freakin happy that at least in the end the defendant is going to get screwed way worse than if he had just settled everything maturely in the beginning! :D
So so so happy for you guys!!
Car loans and personal loans too. It screws over your credit score until you pay it.
This was so helpful and I've never seen a youtuber make a story time in such a way that they are also educating their audience! This was helpful to me, and I'm sure many others! Sad how much I relate to this video
love u!!
Legends supporting legends
Howsenselessdeath Howpreciouslife h3h3 has similar videos cuz they got sued themselves actually over “fair use” / “copyright infringement” BS... if you’re interested. I would suggest searching “h3h3 court case” or “Ethan and Hila fair use court”
Good luck with everything Ana!
Oh jeez, the next step is garnishing the persons wages, BUT it’s worth it in the long run. So finish your paperwork. People who don’t pay back debts deserve it. You are a good guy, and smart too. You deserve to get paid back! Good luck and keep us updated.
that's actually really interesting; I always wondered how any of the plaintiffs suing people for say... months of unpaid rent, would ever go about actually getting their money. Good to know there are actually options.
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Yes, and then the court will take a percentage of your wages. Problem is: many people get paid in cash or direct check. Then when the court finds out they somehow get chastised. Same with when people don’t pay child support except child support is not a civil matter thus they can criminally penalize those cases.
@@Mytube777 I m not from the US, but I think this problem exists there too. If the person, who has to give you the money, has no work and no money, you will not get anything. I have the same problem, my exboyfriend has to give me 20.000€ (and another 10.000€, but atm the court is not finished on this), but he has official no work and no money. Because of this I have to pay the 30.000€ without getting anything back from him, it does not matter, if it s my right, that he had to give the money. On the other side, I have to pay the 30.000€ - there it does not matter, that I have no money (I study at university and have 400€ in a month). These laws are just terrible and destroy small people, who did nothing wrong, while save criminals.
@@eXtremeGoLden what do you mean you had to PAY 30,000? You mean you just didnt get your money back?
@@natedog69420 Yes and no. He had a car crash with a car, that run under my name without me knowing this at this time and because of that the car had no insurance anymore. So I have to pay for the damage. Plus he got a lot of traffic Tickets for driving too fast or driving on the Highway without paying the taxes for it and such things in this time periode. These (a few thousands) I had to pay too in a certain time or I had to go to prison for.
Edwin ? more like edWIN
Get it ?
Okays sorry bye
i did the thing where i laughed through my nose
Love that u responded on this one!!
This is not the kind of video I usually watch on youtube but it was very entertaining and helpful as well! I am actually considering suing my neighbors so yeah this kind of info comes in handy for me, thanks.
Legally you don't have to be in the lease, if you receive mail at that address they absolutely have to give you 30 days! We just went through this!
Edited to add that you should ALWAYS try to put your name on the lease though.
The lease essentially lets the landlord know who's responsible for damages to the property.
I don't normally comment but My fiancé and I are going through two cases that could take years. He got mauled by a dog and the owner ran trying to leave us in quart mil in debt but we found her. The court case is taking forever but it's gonna soon happen. 2nd was a hit and run (we're still healing from the injuries) We recently found the guy who hit us. Both people that we are suing are trying to fabricate what really happened saying that they stayed or they tried to get into contact with us. Hopefully the judges sees through their BS. It takes a lot to sue because it's not as easy as hiring a lawyer to win the case for you. I had/have to do research on the law myself to make what I have to say stronger. Good luck to you! I hope it's better than ours!
Christina Monzon did you call the cops in either instance ? I sure hope so. Or else you may be kinda screwed :(
I hope you guys are alright and good luck with the case.
Need an update on this!
Pay the extra fees and let them garnish his wages. I personally dont think he has the money to pay you but he shpuld be a man about it and communicate that to you. Get your mpney and be done with him. Best wishes.
Wage garnishment is very expensive and it can takes years.
There's an individual who still owes me $70 from over 4 years ago and they have stopped communications about 2 years ago.
Sarah Cain time to hire a hitman
MORTIFIEDONUTS lmao
MORTIFIEDONUTS agreed
MORTIFIEDONUTS a hitman is gonna cost so much more than 70 bucks
15% interest rate
I feel emotionally drained when I talk longer than 5 minutes. It's mind blowing he can talk an hour and a half lol
Great job Edwin. You made a potentially boring process seem very interesting. How are you with cremations and burial planning?
People have different talents and personalities and for some people it’s a way to express themselves and is therapeutic.
If you really want you can refile for failure to comply with the court order and if a judge sees your way, they can be held in contempt of court and maybe get jail time as punishment. great video too.
It's not contempt to not pay a judgment. It's contempt if you find an asset he owns, get a signed order from the judge (aka turnover order) and then he doesn't give you the asset. Debtor prisons are no longer a thing
Since you won he will have to pay eventually. If he ever needs credit for a big purchase, say a car or a home he will have to pay. But if you do take the extra steps which, I personally would take if you have the money to, they will collect all the money from garnishing his wages or acquisitions from his bank account. It’s a process and it’s not easy, but at the end you get what you are owed. Just one will take longer than the other.
Emily Abraham and especially since he claims he has terrible credit; it’d be next to impossible for him to do much lol
Can you add the fee it cost you for the garnish process to the amount the person owes you?
you have a bachelors degree in psychology?!?
You can now legally place a lien on their property since you have a court order showing the debts owed to you ( this will screw up their credit if they have property on credit ), if they have no property to lien on, you can legally garnish their wages.
Blu3ManiC does this apply to California?
I sued in small claims over a junk car owner did not answer but I won he won’t pay what do I do. ?
@@LILSEMEN-rx3mh junk car owner?
Nice
@@LILSEMEN-rx3mh you mean like a buy here pay here?
anyone catching up on this in 2019???? i know im totally invested....... you're a good person, and i appreciate the honesty.
I had to sue someone last year who hit my car. Through the insurance they were saying it was partially my fault and wanted to give me a fraction of the amount of money that it would cost to fix my car. Negotiation was denied from his side and getting him served was this whole other story. I won though and walked away with 4grand.
Did you need a lawyer to win?
Can you tell us about the get them served part I’d like to know what you did
I really like your personality! Hope nothing like this happens to you ever again! Sending good vibes
The court ruled him to be stinky
KING OF RECEIPTS, YES!!
P.S.: What's really sad is that in an old video you said you hope you and him would be friends again in the future. People change depending on who they are surrounded by, I guess. I hope he at least has the decency to give you your money back after the emotional hell they put you through, directly or indirectly.
Yeah, that hope definitely stayed in 2017.
In 2018 (is that still a meme?) we get rid of toxic people. Anyway, we love you Edwin. Hugs!
Oh, yes. In 2018 we 100% not only get rid of toxic people, but call them out. (Obviously this isn't a call out, but I've been hearing things that may require a call out real soon)
Edwins Generation -the kettle is screaming! I’m getting out my finest China in preparation.
HAHA THE PEOPLE'S COURT. So, what they do is they look through public records and find interesting cases and contact them to be on the show. A while ago, some girl came into the vet's office that I worked for to collect all her dog's records because she was going onto the show for money related to a previously shared dog with her ex. She told us a bit about the experience. She also came back later and told us more. She said it was a really good experience. Also, maybe pay back Edwin Cyr? And if you don't have the $ at the moment maybe, talk to him about it Cyr? - Also congrats Edwin on your Bachelor's degree! That's pretty cool. It's a shame Cyr that you wouldn't give that back. That rubs me the wrong way.
Thank you for sharing your small claims story! Small claims court belongs to the people! Don't be afraid to assert your rights and get justice.
damn, you're dragging this story behind you like a tail. one would think it ended, but apparently some people are really shit. good luck to you papi. i hope it will solve out soon bc honestly you and Mina deserve to forget about them forever
Edwin, I feel you on this one. I had a similar situation, except it hasn't even been a year since it's happened to me and he wasn't even my best friend at all. He was a person I met once and 2 yrs later, he became my roommate and HE was the one that needed a place to stay. So, I kindly took him in because he had a job. But 3 yrs later, he stopped paying me rent and bills, even after he signed a lease with the apartment complex and signed a WRITTEN agreement with me. He owes me $3500 in back rent, including bills. He became full of excuses and he started avoiding me, hiding in his bedroom, changing the subject each time I was asking him about the rent money and the bills. Then he found out that I sued him in small claims court and because he never showed up in court, I filed a default claim and, of course, had all my evidence and the judge ruled in my favor but he is nowhere to be found. Needless to say, I won't give up! However, it would be my luck if I found out where he is and where he's working. But, oh well!!! Karma will get him either way!
This guy has a very pleasant personality and is not showing anger, which is kind of hard to understand how he's not angry, but, it is admirable. Nice sharing of this.
Edwin, you are such a pure soul, sending positive vibes (:
Hope you eventually get your money back!
This is why I NEVER lend money !!!
Damn the tea is piping hot 🐸🍵....
Emily Amaya 😂
It’s incredible how some people really do take advantage of others. Some thing similar happened to me with an ex and it was a significant amount of $ ... I figured I might not get it back because he cut off communication but I’ll try court. I guess we’ll see what happens. So glad it worked out for you.
Hey girl, what’s the update on your situation? I have the same issue right now
This is the first video if yours I've seen and I'm for sure gonna subscribe!!! Your personality is so charismatic and fun!!
Can’t wait til you get the justice my dude. It’ll feel so fucking good when you get that money. He’s such a coward,... I’m so inspired by you pursuing / putting the effort into standing up for yourself and getting what’s yours. Can’t wait for an update. Good luck!!
Omg! You in court tv with him... TEA! Lol
Hopefully he can get over himself and just pay you back!
Hearing this helped me further conceptualize how law would work in an anarchist society. People want to know who they're hiring/who they're buying from, so they'll want to verify their identity. An organization could exist which builds a reputation for verifying information about the identity of people who register with it, and employers would make it a requirement that they get verified with a trusted identity organization first. Then, if someone steals something, you can ask them to go to court, and if they fail to show up and you have a good case, their name will be tarnished until they repay their debts, and you could get them potentially get them fired if they have enough debt to their name (or murdered/raped someone) or something like that. Or people could just choose not to lend them money, or any number of things you'd normally do to voluntarily resolve disputes like this.
Don't give money to friends that way you won't lose ur friendships
Diao Chan Don't borrow money that you can't pay back. At least he was shown true colors. Rather have dependable friends honestly (I don't mean this comment in a sassy tone in case it comes off that way)
N.E.T.A 66 yea i was going to say that too
i only lend money i never expect to see again. let it be their baggage, not my problem.
gisforgary
That’s the only way I loan money too, never expect it back. Never loan money you can’t manage without.
That sucks :/ i hope you get your money back
Hope you end up getting your money, Edwin! It really sucks that it had to come to this, especially since he was your bestfriend. Good for you for standing up for yourself ♡♡♡♡
Legit going through this right now. Thank you for this video it's making me feel more secure that I can get some kind of justice for the money this girl has cost me
The king of receipts 🧾
The main point or problem is that you don’t get paid back. They’ll work under table, put their cars in their kids name, and I imagine they aren’t going to buy house. How sue someone with nothing? You can’t. Can ppl with nothing damage property? Yes
I’m 28 and I sued someone in small claims court a few years ago for not paying for petsitting services. I also got a letter from a show- Judge Mathis! Haha they have people who go through the public records and look for cases like ours. Anyway, I went to court, they didn’t show, the judge ruled in my favor. All I had for evidence were Facebook chat messages between the woman and I agreeing on time period and price and messages I sent while she was out of town with updates on her pets. I watched her dogs and cat for 2 weeks while she was in Thailand for a friends wedding. I knew her from volunteering at a local animal shelter, so she wasn’t just a random person. She did the whole “oh I’ll meet you at this time to give you a check” then bailed, told me she sent it but never did, etc etc. I hesitated on going to court, but it was a decent amount of money and I had just moved into a house (I actually postponed my move in date because I was petsitting for her) so I really needed the money. After the judge ruled in my favor, they sent her a letter telling her she had to pay within x amount of days. The judge had awarded interest with his decision, so the longer she waited, the more it increased. She didn’t pay. I went back to the courthouse and had them send her another letter which basically said if you don’t pay within 2 weeks, your wages will be garnished. She didn’t pay. So I went and filed the paperwork to have her wages garnished. The way they do that is the county files paperwork with their employer and the employer sends money to the county from their paycheck, before they even get it. They dont take it in one big chunk because they have to leave money for them to live on. I had the bulk of the payments within a few months. I got the final payment the next April, after tax day when I guess the county was like oh here’s some more we forgot to send or something haha. In the end, she ended up paying about $400 more than she would have had to pay. The thing is, I love petsitting and I knew her. If she had told me she couldn’t afford it, I would’ve accepted payments over time or whatever. I’m not unreasonable. But instead, she was sketchy and lied. She’s in her 40s and has a daughter my age. I doubt she’d be happy if someone did that to her daughter. Anyway, it seems sort of tedious and annoying, but persistence pays off! The reason people don’t get their money is they forget to file paperwork on time or they don’t do it at all. Keep at it and you’ll eventually get paid!
Right that's the thing, nobody wants to go through with this stuff! Thanks for your story! It gives me hope to see that it doesn't all have to be so complicated. I think I'll go into the courthouse next time to ask about it personally because over the phone it was extremely confusing.
i was listening to this video over my car speakers on my commute to work bc somehow i missed this one? and had to stop to get some gas. the girl in the car at the pump next to me turned and said, “is that Edwin? I love his videos!” haha i started freaking out and we bonded over your videos for like 5 minutes!!!! love u and mina!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
This is a very well done video and the fact that the people's court has access to this information is very creepy.
It's really good that you're taking steps to get what's yours and put everything behind you, stay strong ♥️
I feel that the only reason why he's refusing to cooperate is because he thinks he's still in charge and that he's going to get away with it.
Thank you for making this!
I remember watching Cyr grow years and years ago. He was awesome, real original content. It seems like ever since he got with that person he just doesn’t care or give a shit about dignity anymore- let alone his channel.
Hope he’s happy.
Great video! I'm not in California so don't know the laws there but most jurisdictions have a process for collecting debts. It involves filling out more paperwork and waiting but in the end they either pay you or their wages/property are used to pretty you and/or become bankrupt.
Thank you so much for this information. I've heard it is very difficult to collect but I did not understand why exactly. Its very unfortunate that you had to lose a friend over all of this. I hope you guys go on the People's court so you both can win~
Thank you for sharing your experience and for being honest in the process. Hopefully this will work out for you
super interesting, please update when something happens.
Piping hot tea was served along with judgements!! Love you Edwin ❤️
And what I learned because I recently was in a couple similar situations, as a resident in that house you can legally break in and get your possessions if your roommate hasn't given you proper 30 days written notice. If your roommate calls the cops on you, they won't arrest you because you are a resident that wasn't given proper notice.
Best way to end any relationship, lend them money. Lol they’ll never talk to you again. 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ ps I’m very sorry this happened to you, I’ve experienced it before but it was never a crazy amount of money. I don’t believe in lending people anymore. I’ll buy them gifts, pay for dinner and other shit and they’ll do the same back but nope. I’ve seen money destroy my family and I’ve seen it ruined friendships.
Rae Annabelle
I live by the same rule. If, and that’s a big if, I ever loan anyone money, it’s money I don’t absolutely need to live on. I loan it with the expectation that I’ll never get it back. I never consider buying someone dinner, a movie ticket, or other smallish item as a loan. You’re just asking for trouble by expecting to be paid back for things like that. Plus, I don’t believe anything is a loan unless the parties agree beforehand that it’s a loan.
Dudecito, call up the people's court, since you are both social media influencers they will still take you and if the deadbeat shows up he can clear his debt, its in his best interest to go too.
On the flip side you are doing so well out of Cyr's shadow, hope you don't dwell on what a creep he is too much, just thinking about him is going to take you to a dark place.
I’m glad that you are suing. I wouldn’t get your hopes up about seeing anything. Something happened to me where an acquaintance stole my debit card. We had her face on camera, and filed a claim. I won by default, however it was up to me to find what assets she owned that were equal to the amount owed. Unfortunately you cannot get blood from a stone.
I live for
This drama.
Popcorn sales have gone up because of this. 🙊
😁😂😂
Been here. Done that. Ended up homeless. Recovered from that. Dont move in with friends. Ever.
Almost the same thing happened to me ! And I’m looking to sue in small claims court ! Thank you so much for this video 🙏🏾❤️
when you borrow someone some money and when u ask them to pay you back they call you greedy
Didn't you say you can add fees related to the case?
If you can, why not just add it? He's being difficult and its costly, he should be the one paying for what he's done
Kira that’s what I’m wondering. Someone owes me $1350 and I’m thinking about doing that.
Dang, poor emo papi Edwin and the Ex-Bf drama -betrayal-
You have your Gf, you have a friend in Damon, you have the Generation Force, and you can still make team Costa at your earliest convenience. you'll recover in time.
#downwithtoxicgirlfriendsandfriendships
This is why I don’t lend people money unless I feel I don’t mind not getting it back. Especially with friends.
Going through this. 10 years ago paid a lawyer for a friend $50k. He recently won a settlement for $1.1 million and refuses to pay me back. Have letters from him over the years telling me as soon as he gets the money I will be paid back. Now I will have to file this myself. Lawyers telling me I am past 3 year statute of limitation.
Cyr right?
I wish you all the best Edwin! even though it seemed like a breeze filing a claim against you ex best friend, I bet it was incredibly tiring emotionally. I hope this drama ends for your sake! you seem like an awesome person and you deserve justice! btw I'm a new sub!
Thanks for sharing this !
Winning a case and getting them to pay are equally as difficult. You have to folloe through after the win. Suppose to garnish their wages, which means there's like a tax on their wage. They literally might not have the money at first. But the "tax" will be attached to their social security, so when they get a LEGIT job (some ppl get paid under table), part of their wage will always be sent to you.
Don't give up file that complicated paperwork and finish him! Lol I believe in you this has helped inspire me to try to follow through with a discrimination issue I've been having at work! I've been dreading having to compile my evidence I've accumulated for the EEOC because I don't want to have to think about or relive what I've been dealing with but I need to suck it up and follow through.
step one, use collection agency for anything $100 above, wrecks their credit score for 7 years, 2: sue only if its worth thousands
What happens when they dodge you for 7 years and get away with it..
Thank you for making this!!!
Omg!! Hey I’m from Arizona too. So many likable ppl are from here ! So my roommate left me midway through the lease in college to go back home to California. I wanted to sue her but I ended up never doing it because I didn’t know how to but omg it was so stressful! My grades definitely suffered that semester. Thanks for this informational video
Hey i have dummy friend it’s now 6 months but she still don’t give a date to when she will pay me back
Well,
It seems like YOU have to give her a date. Decide how much time you'll give her, and tell her that if she doesn't pay, you will sue her and file the papers the day after your end date. That is what I did, and it worked, I got my money 3 days before the last day. 🙂
I began watching Cyr on twitch as he is now part of a certain community. But since finding this channel, i see him in a different light.
I'm a former collection representative that worked for a large, well known bank. I've also won a judgment against someone. The only way to get your money back is to file for garnishment. IF he has a regular job, and you know where he works, you can file to garnish his wages. If he's self employed or a contractor, it's a lot harder to garnish. You can file the summary judgment at his bank, but you'll need his bank info to do this. Otherwise, unless he applies for a mortgage, you'll never see it. Didn't he say that his credit was bad and that's why his brother cosigned on the appartment? if that's true, he doesn't care anymore and has no intention of paying.
I don’t know where my ex works at but I have his date of birth and social security #
Six years ago and this camera quality is magnificent..
Edwin: King of Receipts 👑
defendants NEVER show when they know they're in the wrong... getting your $$ is a whole nother story.. he will never pay
i had a similar experience... i moved out of a place where i lived with a friend. we had a really bad fall out because she'd been emotionally abusive for a long time and i was finally standing up for myself. she did not like that one bit. there was money her boyfriend (who also lived there) owed me that i never saw, and she didn't give me back my bond money either. which was a lot. she was sending me abusive emails, so i just let her keep the money to shut her up. if someone was going to stoop that low i didn't want to bother with them anyway. not saying that that's what you should do... you're brave for suing
So interesting and succinct indeed I’m sure so many found this helpful because it is an unknown kind of thing for so many ppl.
You are very good at explaining and keeping my attention! Literally. You’re an amazing youtuber. Thank you for the awesome videos :)
Sadly I gotta take a “friend” to court, I invested $6k with him last year and 8 months later and still nothing, told him I’m okay just breaking even but it’s nothing but excuses smh
Just keep on suing until hes homeless and broke
i wanna sue my old roommate cuz he would harass me, try forcing marriage onto me, assaulted me, started withholding rent and utilities because i wouldn't marry him or give him attention. he also is a king pin drug dealer, and threatened to have people go after me if i nark on him. but he then said if we broke the lease, he would pay all the fees and pay me back what he owed, as long as i didn't nark on him. and being afraid and foodstamps broke, i agreed to it. but now he blocked me on fb and refuses to answer to the debt collector for him SQUATTING FOR TWO MONTHS AFTER I LEFT. omgggggggggggg
If he was a kingpin drug dealer why would he be so poor that he needs a roommate?
@ well I didn’t know he was THAT until I lived with him, but he roomed with me because he thought he could force a relationship onto me living together :/
god that just sounds so shitty and immature of him! i hope you end up getting your money back
Thank you very much for this upload
This is really interesting actually, thanks for this 😊
Garnish his wages!
Hey I think you should consider the extra paperwork and fees if you have the money and time. I heard it’s quite worth it in the end. Please keep us updated as this has been quite educational to me. Much love Edwin 💓.
I am going through a similar case with someone i paid to develop an app for me. Its 4 years later and no app. I paid him 10k and he has returned 5k but i guess he expected me to shut up and be happy because he is now ignoring my messages. Just like you said, they hope you will forget and move on. Well i wont. He lives in Miami and I live in California. This video has given me hope though because I will now be pressing charges against him in That county. Only question is how do i serve him if i dont have an address?
Call a private investigator and they can find his location if he moves and where he works.
@@missdesireindependance5194 thank you I just might. He keeps saying next month next month. Its so pathetic
can you sue for emotional distress
Liking to show my support!
Why does he have to be so complicated. 😭
cyr? why does he have to be complicated?
The power of receipts. I keep telling my brother, "Keep your receipts, just cause they love you don't mean they won't fucknyou over!" But he never does. Now he's living with me and his ex has everything. I keep all my receipts in a little file and usually flashing it is enough to get my money that I'm owed pretty quick. Hope shot workouts for you Edwin.
Yes! Keep the receipts AND when paying bills, always choose the electronic option so it remains in your email forever!
Hello, This was so good & helpful.
I am taking someone to court who asked for a $2,000+ loan. Now for them to pay me back when they Claimed they would & refusing to pay me. they was given enough time to pay back the loan.
I get threatened & cussed out for my own hard earned money. I have all my paperwork & proof, evidence.
I am ready! to take them to court
Glad I found out this video will let you know how it goes
How did it go?
@@missdesireindependance5194 hey. I won my case. they got scared and never showed up. now that person is in judea n default for 20+ years they can't get or own anything til they pay me back my money. n I got a court order for loss wages
@@AfricanGirl I’m in the same situation. I know I can win my judgment but I don’t know if the judge will garnish the wages of someone who is on child support. I don’t want to lose money taking my ex to court.
@@missdesireindependance5194 hey. noo you will not loose money because all the money you spent on court fees he will have to pay you back that money. nothing will go or be against u. Google child support courts system. don't worry u will win
Away thank you for explaining your own story . My will be explain later and the manipulation will definitely come out . Take care .
This was really interesting and informative! (:
I hope yo get your money back!
Wish me luck. Suing a customer who wrote a check with no funds and is no longer answering.
thanks for sharing this. i want to sue my ex for rent and i needed to know the experience so this was really helpful. I will let you know how it goes
Very good overview! My friend and I have both passed through similar situations. My friend had to evict two of her roommates but went through the proper procedure to do so. She is now looking to collect what she owes them. Let me know if you want to know more .