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Collecting vinyl is like collecting playing cards. Half the fun is finding copies that interest you. What ever quality/copy you are willing to accept is up to you. We all have a budget we have to operate with in. Some people can buy rare/pristine copies off eBay/discogs and some can only afford thrift store records. All things are truly subjective, It’s all about what provides enjoyment.
As a POOR Pensioner, I buy CD's as they are cheaper & play much better than a cheap crappy LP.
One of the more entertaining videos in a while!! Laughed myself silly. And Stones vs. Beatles is an invalid argument as the 2 bands are so different from each other!
I agree. The Beatles are more symphonic while the Stones have a metronome as a drummer.
I'd say the right answer to the Stones VS. Beatles debate is the Kinks, lol
It's a ridiculous trumped up argument that even now people get silly over at end of the day you prefer what you prefer or you could be really controversial and like both!
@@sawyer3715 Yeah love The Kinks, Stones were up there with The Beatles when Brian Jones was around. Afterwards just another decent band.
Loved the vid! Wanted to share one important comment from the perspective of a younger member of the VC!
The VC as a whole is so amazing & inclusive & full of some of the coolest people! Lately - for some reason - there has been an uptick of more seasoned members directing their critiques toward vinyl trends, which is gatekeeping many younger members & turning many of them off to participating, knowing they will be disrespected for liking what they like, or even just asking questions. How did this happen?
It is the hating on "people who play Crosleys", shaming of younger members who only hang records on their Urban Outfitters rack, attacking sites that sell multiplied colored vinyl variants, digital vs analog, overpaying in auctions, motivation to "flip".... I could go on.
All of these perspectives aren't totally off-base. Sure, there could be more info about proper playback, care, & understanding throughout the WHOLE vinyl industry (working on providing that through my channel).
But this is a hobby. Encourage younger members! This is a prospective market, & people's likes will ultimately dictate simply supply & demand. The vinyl world will change again, new generations will discover old things, & the joy is in the journey, between the grooves, & having shared experiences with the cool community!
Keep on grooving your way
sell sell sell
Love to see younger members in it! As long as you don't call them "vinyls"-thats unacceptable. 🤣
We are supposed to be getting younger people in it so it lives on. I inherited my father's collection and we enjoyed 45's together. If he had "today's attitude" I would not be into it.
@@jimb032 Lol - & true!! Appreciate the perspective
@@groovingyourway For what it's worth - I don't care what record player someone has - including Crosleys etc - I'm just glad to hear you have a record player. I personally have no use for colored vinyl, but it doesn't offend me and I don't hate on it. I'm quite happy to see younger people discover the joys of vinyl, regardless of how they get into it. Especially hoping it also sparks interest in all the great music of the last, oh, 100 years. Have a great time.
All good points. Cheers!
The tone controls on an amplifier are there to compensate for a less than ideal listening room. Use 'em if you need to.
Lyrics are not only not important, they are often detractors. When I was growing up most of what I listened to had lyrics but that was because all popular music had them. Now, as an adult I have access to all the music of the world and I spend most of my time steeped in jazz, exotica or classical.
I discovered Pink Floyd with The Division Bell so it's always been my favourite album of theirs and probably my favourite album of all time.
This definitely proves "different strokes for different folks". Some of it no doubt has to do with when you came of age and what music was out there for you to get into.
...or like in the bicycle business, "different spokes for different folks...!"
...sorry, Daniel...had to...
Really enjoyed this video, Frank. It was a lot of fun to watch. That last comment was a great finale!
I'm 69 years older than collecting vinyl since the 60s. I love colored vinyl. As far as I'm concerned, those that are not fans are like Henry Ford who said you can get a model t in any color as long as it's black. Colored vinyl makes it interesting and doesn't damage sound quality at all. For me often times it has become part of the experience.
Wow! That was so much fun!
The funniest part is I agree with some of the most outrageous comments like Led Zeppelin being overrated 😅
Great video Frank!!
It just goes to show you that it takes a lot of different people to make the world go 'round!!
Keep on spinning Frank 👍
Nice mix of good advice and positive perspectives and just general trolling! Great video idea!
Totally agree with how some coloured vinyl is a pain in the ass for seeing where the grooves are. But clear vinyl is even worse, especially when accompanied with vague (or sometimes no) label information.
This is a great video, love hearing these hot tales
Hi Frank, this is great - love hearing others opinions especially when they challenge my own. Just goes to show that music is a very personal thing and you either get it or you don’t. Cheers Matt
This was the funniest video I've seen in a long time. You should make this a yearly thing (or bi-annual, maybe).
Thanks, this was a lot of fun. If the video does well, I will definitely do more.
Very entertaining video. Lots of fun hearing what everyone in the VC think about records etc
How can you like Metal, it's crap. How can you like emo, it's crap. How can you like country, it's crap. How can you like Swedish Black Metal, it's crap. How can you like polka, it's crap. How can you like classical, it's crap. How can you like rap, it's crap. How can you like jazz, it's crap. etc etc.
I've heard it all.
In other words, you don't like music in general, it's crap???
That's crap
What I love the most about collecting vinyl, is the expense and inconvenience! 🤣
One of your best videos, love all the remarks can't quit laughing 😅.
Hi Frank, nice to see you. A very fun video. Thank you for making my Sunday afternoon. Have a super week.
Thanks Tino. Have a great week as well.
This topic was a fun one. The potential for all hell breaking loose was there, but you umpired it perfectly. 👍
Thanks 👍
Fun video, looking forward to another one someday!
Missed the opportunity to post something regarding this, so here I go with 7 observations that may rub various people the wrong way and yet I'm still going to sleep very well tonight.
1. Van Halen vs Van Hagar....
Van Hagar is a softer sound, a pop-ish/rock-ish radio friendly sound. A nice safe cozy unremarkable vanilla sound.
In other words, if the Carpenters became a rock band...they'd be Van Hagar...but i digress.
That is why the very last thing I need is listening to Van Hagar sing about things like love. No thank you, I'd much rather go runnin' with the devil because Van Halen ain't talkin about love...which is why Jamie's cryin' in the first place.
2. On Iron Maiden.... If their lead singer never sang a single lyric I'd be a huge fan, but the minute I hear Julia Childe start singing....I'm leaving the room or changing the station.
3. On Mettalica...To me Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem make much better music in their sleep...if muppets slept.
4. Pat Boone is a misunderstood genius.
5. Air Supply sang nothing but melodramatic show tunes. They should do Kleenex commercials...
6. Comparing the Rolling Stones to the Beatles is a waste of energy. They're very different bands. The former, though very good has wayyyy over-stayed their welcome. Now it's like watching a bunch of mummified raisins trying to sing as if they're still 25 years old. The latter, however, left on top of their game leaving a masterful body of work that's influenced generations of musicians from here to Tatooine and back again. Using critical thinking, one cannot point to a decline with the Beatles but the Stones, it's not a decline, it's an avalanche of ho-hum mediocrity that's only been matched by Coldplay & Maroon 5.
The Jawas would agree...
7. The Cars' 1980 album "Panorama" is their masterpiece start to finish, so sayeth the Moony.
EVH BEST GUITARIST EVER
Great video. Loved it
Fantastic video, Frank, so much fun!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Loved this video. So entertaining😀
That was fun, do it again, mostly so I can chime in on the second round
I love the Pet Rock one..🔥this was a lot of fun and will most definitely make a few people's blood pressure surge😂 hope you and yours are well and having a good weekend.
Thanks man, you too.
That was an awesome episode!
Yes, ALL of the early Cooper albums are great. But "Pretties" is my personal favorite just because it's so out-there. 1 1/2 minute songs with 15 changes, that kind of thing. Oh...I almost forgot; a friend of mine said that the song "LIving" sounds like The Beatles got roaring drunk and bashed that one out. Ha! Great episode, Frank and I hope your cold goes away real soon. Get well and stay well!
Huge Cooper fan Pretties for you has it's moments not for me thier best I actually think Easy action might be my favourite Alice Cooper group album,although a tough call to make.
I guess this may be unpopular opinion to some, possibly, but I think Alice Coopers solo work since 1985 outclasses anything he or the band did before.
The Tony Martin albums are underrated!
Interesting episode Frank. But the truth is opinions are speculative. Everyone like something that another person may not. All you have to do is look at speakers to see this division. Some like bright...some do not. Some like redheads...some like blondes. 😁Some like trucks some like fast cars. I think it is great personally. People talking vinyl and gear.....having different opinions is to me....a wonderful thing to discuss over a rum and coke. 🙂
All the best to you and yours Frank. Be safe.
Hugs from Newfoundland.
Rod
I agree Rod. I enjoy reading different opinions. It's when it gets to the Your opinion is wrong that starts to frustrate me. I don't understand having an issue with someone else's opinion. Made the comment just last week that Ozzy would be the biggest loss in heavy metal .....for me. I had someone continuously want to argue that when I specifically said for me. Like I said , I don't understand how some feel we are all supposed to think the same thing.
Motörhead and UFO don't get enough spotlight on being influences. Metallica and Iron Maiden wouldn't exist without them
Brilliant video!!
Really enjoyed this. Would you think about doing this segment again at some point. Hope you are felling better! Cheers!
Yeah, for sure... if this one does well, I will do it again. Thanks for watching!
The Dark Side Of The Moon is one of those rare works that knows no genre and 50 years later still doesn't sound dated at all. It's an album that future generations with still be discovering and listening to.
That album was one of those rare gems that had the perfect confluence of the songwriter/performers and the recording producer (Alan Parsons). Together it added up to more than the sum of it's parts. Combine that with the excellent cover design by Hipgnosis and it's truly miraculous.
@@tomfurgas2844 I'll take Alan Parsons "I Robot" over "The Dark Side Of The Moon" any day, sorry.
Why be SORRY ? Personal choice. @@laudanum669
Why
Excited my comment got mentioned, about lyrics. I’ve always considered vocals to be an instrument in a song or piece of music but never necessary for a song to have emotional resonance. A piece of music moves me based on the music not what words a person is singing.
Agree. But everyone I explain this to thinks I'm crazy.
When I hear an instrumental on an album, I get the feeling the artist worked harder to keep things interesting, ie. there's more variety in the composition & arrangement.
Words are secondary.
Great show Frank. Keep it up.
Much appreciated
Hugely entertaining! I don't think listeners give some artists enough of a chance. Both Rush & Fleetwood Mac have changed greatly over their long careers. (I won't listen to early Rush.)
Great video!! I get a kick out of some of the opinions of others.
Frank, I think that question brought out the best trolls. 😁
Stylus is not the most important part of the turntable. It is the most important at cheap turntables, but at higher end levels a good transport makes night and day difference, a good arm is important too. These two needs to be high quality to let the cartridge shine. I see no point to put a $3k cartridge on a $1k turntable, it will not be able to show its qualities.
Eh. When you're at that level, I don't think there's a point to give advice "What's most important part of turntable"...😂
Most people don't have 1k turntable to begin with. I'd say 99 % of people listening vinyl don't even have 3k invested in their whole system.
So it is definitely true statement for people outside that 1 % who actually buy + 1k cartridge for their system.
btw. turntable worth < 1k is not "cheap". I'd say if you go under 300 brand new, that is cheap. Used, there isn't really that specific price points to follow...
I agree with Hester.
Well done Frank you dispelled a lot of myths with this video.
At the end there was thumb nail asking for unpopular Rock and Roll questions.
My question is: Do we really need a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Is it more than a rubber stamp on an artist's career?
Good question...
I've had the same thought, but a lot of artists say they were genuinely touched to be inducted.
Lol that was very entertaining. The best was the Monkees lmao
WHAT??! No wayyyy…
Fun show. Please do more of these results shows.
I would like to do it again.
This was awesome! So fun.
Glad you enjoyed it!
One of the best TH-cam videos that I have watched in ages. Very interesting opinion’s some of which I agreed with but saying Jimmy Page is sloppy is complete nonsense. To me he’s the joint greatest of all time along with Mike Oldfield. I also love Beck, Clapton and Brian May.
To the posters who mentioned XTC as one of the greatest bands as well as Weird Al's band, +1 to both sentiments. XTC deserve so much better than what they've gotten and their alter-egos, The Dukes of Stratosphear, are essential listening for psych fans.
I love how I was the last comment!!! Lol!
I agree with Travis, the Killer Dwarfs should have achieved mainstream success, they were a great band of the 80's!
Sherry is the brains behind Ch33 and Frank is the teleprompter reading robot.
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I like a light snap, crackle, and pop when the needle drops and between songs. But when the music is playing, no.
I got one for ya lol
Hand pressed vinyl prices.
Companies will charge and people will gladly pay $200 plus because somebody took a plastic puck, stuck it in a press, pushed a button, and pulled a lever. I know there's more to it but essentially it's a 4 step process that takes less than a minute to complete...! I get it "BUT WAIT! the rarity, they only pressed 25 in that varient". Lol it took em an hour to do that...
Fare Warning album was Cool 😎 , Eddie snuck in Studio After Hours to fix the mix .
Total innovator who knew what he wanted
Unmasked is one of my favorite KISS albums too!
Hi Frank, I really enjoyed this video. Hopefully, you will do more Q&A to anger up the blood. Lol. I agree with the person about the lyrics. It is all about the overall sound to me
Glad you dug the video.
I have a Walmart pressing of Black Crows “Shake Your Money Maker” and it sounds fantastic.
This colored vinyl thing is the biggest of myth- black vinyl //is// colored vinyl- meaning the PVC is dyed black.
4:48 - I always thought that when listening to UK indie band *Carter USM.* Without the enclosed lyrics, you were stuffed! Just this Cockney voice yelling at you!
OMG! That was to funny! I have to believe that most of those "bold" statements were very tongue in cheek, but I also get the sense that a few of those guys actually believe themselves. Bahaha 😆😆
Colored vinyl is not new it goes back to the late 50's i know because i have some.
Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band's recording, Trout Mask Replica, is one of the greatest albums ever.
Damn right it is. Cover kicks ass too.
Somebody wrote that but I noticed Frank skipped over that comment. Maybe he thought it was fast and bulbous!
I have an odd take on Trout Mask, I don't hate it but I think there was a better double album to be had in what was put out as two separate albums cut in '68, Strictly Personal and Mirror Man. Also the early 70's Magic Band albums when they go back to the psychedelic blues sound of their debut again, Spotlight Kid and Clear Spot are really good.
Sorry I missed out on this
Mine is that modern rock isn’t that bad, there are some really good stuff like The Strokes, Wet Leg or King Gizzard
Really enjoyed reading opinions of other listenters.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like The Pink Floyd much better than Pink Floyd.
Frank, I miss the original Channel 33 theme song!
Thanks! I haven't officially retired it... just debating what to do with it.
I love coloured vinyl
To the Walmart and Target record pressing, i had a lot of issues from color record and multiple color records with the pops withe the fused color fused.
Great stuff Frank and definitely some controversial views on this weeks show. If I were to add to that, I would say - Vinyl is for speakers whilst CD is for headphones. Billy Idol is nothing without Steve Stevens and the only decent song to come out of Fleetwood Mac is "Oh Well" ??!!??
Keep on spinnin !!
Green Manalishi
I just found out my parents own one of those suitcase type record players. I never knew they had one. I was so surprised, my parents especially my dad was an audiophile kind of guy. Always the best. And put everything on reel to reel tape. But it wasn't Crosley. It's big, heavy and wooden. It has a CD player, and radio as well. I think it's perfectly fine to listen to the radio on it, or the CD. It surprisingly has a fairly decent sound. I guess because it's wooden and huge, and heavy.
My mom got it out because that's the only thing in the house that plays at 78 speed. And my mom wanted to listen to my dad's old 78 Rock and Roll records. Today is the one year anniversary of my dad's passing.
I was shocked seeing those old 78s still in their original heavy paper sleeves. I have to get my mom some good sleeves. Some of those are Chuck Berry 78s.
And my mom was touching the record, and picking up the arm and dropping it on the record.
I was like No, don't do that. Mom you're killing me.
This was fun.
Kinda agree with Marek on lyrics. I'm biased, though. I grew up with songs in English before I learnt it. I still listen to songs in languages I don't understand.
About The Ramones, punk might have been invented in the US but the Brits did it better.
Tone controls on the amp? That's a resounding yes.
Some of the craziest comments I've ever heard! 🤣
I will say this for George Lynch, "Kiss of Death" has a killer riff and "Dream Warriors" is amazing.
I agree
Dont forget Mr Scary instrumental! Loved Back For The Attack
@Pepperonnie the band was so appreciative of what Nightmare 3 did for the album they actually gave producer Rachel Talalay a platinum record when it sold a million copies.
Very underrated
I like Coloured Vinyl records, but I think it's the same as a limited edition CD set, or something of that ilk. It is kind of a gimmick, but if you're a big fan of that artist, you might want something *more* than the standard release. I don't go for the coloured exclusively, but if the option for coloured is there, and it doesn't cost a ton extra, I might pick it up. I gotta admit, i'm a sucker for the splatter and fun coloured stuff. End of the day though, it's about the artist, and the music.
Hey Frank. Why did you say Mike, formerly of vinyl storage solutions? Interested because I recently watched your videos with Mike before pulling the trigger on a couple of packs of outer sleeves from VSS. I should have them on my records this Tuesday. Cheers from Burlington ON.
He recently sold the company, but as far as I know, it's still based in Winnipeg and not much has really change (other than the ownership).
One thing leftout of the conversation of speakers. I rotate my speakers at least once a year. Unlike the debate over vinyl and cds, you can actually hear differences with speakers!
I agree on the Ozzy albums. No more tears was the last great one. The latest one is pretty good. The ones in between are ok but nothing stands out
Frank, definitely a funny video I'm in huge beatlefan I grew up with all those bands from the beginning😃 The funniest one was the guy said the Ramones are better than the the who the stones and the Beatles 🤪 just don't know what to make of him 😐
4:40 - "The best band in the business is Weird Al's band" Man that sooooo true! See them live if you don't believe us, you think Damon and myself later :)
Love the Division Bell
Jeep owner. You saved yourself Frank otherwise we would have had words. LOL
Man, you Italians are touchy.
Animals is my favorite PF album by far, Presence is my fave LZ & Fair Warning my fave VH.
Awesome video Frank!! You went out with a bang!! He’s one of my best friends but the Monkees are better than the Beatles is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard 🤣🤣👍🤘🤘
Haha... I figured the Monkees comment was a good way to end it!
They couldn't even act.
I was angry that day but I stand by my words. Lol
CDs annoy me cause they can be better but so often now they're mastered horribly. I also think the record industry had something potentially great in high res digital that they totally pissed away.
EVH rules
Wow! If Dark Side Of The Moon is average then I'd love to hear what he considers above average!
Completely agree on U2. Possibly the most overrated band in recent history. And let’s not get started on the arrogance factor of U2 from the last few decades.
The Non Beatles fans don't know wheres they are missing!
Beatles fans can't spell & John Lennon was confirmed as a violent abusive husband towards his 2 wives & 1 girlfriend.
Hmm, this should be interesting.
I enjoyed that. The comment about British rap music being like drinking the contents of an unflushed toilet made me laugh! I’ll add the whole of modern HipHop to that ! Irritating and in some cases just downright offensive!
Ok, I'll add another one.
The police are the only band that can play reggae and make it sound good.
Charlie Watts was the best part of The Stones. 🤘🥁🤘
I love balance by Van Halen. I just listen to it the other day man could be on my top two Van Halen albums
Love this. Great to hear the more uncommon views. Personally mine would have been...The Beatles where the biggest thing to happen to rock and roll and influenced God knows how many musicians....BUT.....to me their music is average. A few Ok songs here and there, but overall just another average sounding band that had a few good songs. PS...White album is BEYOND overrated!! There I said it lol.
Controversial indeed.. I think some of those folks may be under the influence though. Yikes! 🥴😅
bro that zeppelin take was just somebody trolling. seriously to tell me Zep 1,2 or zoso are not good. come on now...