Why is someone drawing graffiti in a church? | Saenredam's 'Buurkerk at Utrecht' | National Gallery

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  • What can we learn about how artists use their imagination when depicting everyday life, from this work of art? Join Justine Rinnooy Kan, our Dorset Curatorial Fellow, as she looks at some unusual behaviour that we wouldn't expect to see inside a church, depicted in Pieter Saenredam's painting.
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  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Rosslyn Chapel on the outskirts of Edinburgh did not have dogs, but until recently had a cat called William that adopted the church. Instead of removing him he was kept and he used to greet visitors, sadly dying last year.

    • @harrietlyall1991
      @harrietlyall1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ah, sad to hear that. I live in Edinburgh and know Rosslyn very well. I heard that Cat William assisted at a wedding in the chapel, by rolling around on the bride’s train as she stood at the altar taking her vows!

    • @clairejohnston2461
      @clairejohnston2461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They had a resident cat at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C., when I visited. And the Episcopal church I attended had their own cat, too, who walked in and became the church’s mascot. 🐱

  • @vickiharrington8870
    @vickiharrington8870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's amazing to see these glimpses of everyday life in 17th century Netherlands, and to have the meanings of the depictions explained by such a knowledgable curator. Thank so much.

  • @conorcleary1498
    @conorcleary1498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love stuff like this where the humour and foibles of humanity and nature are high lighted and engaged with. So often are they put down and demeaning. Great video :)

  • @HopskotchBunny
    @HopskotchBunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Phenomenal presentation. I could watch these all day. More please. Thank you very much. 🐶

  • @BooksShoesCats
    @BooksShoesCats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Best speaker and narrator of your house I think. So lively and happy, passioned and fascinated herself by the art! Loved it!

  • @paulklee5790
    @paulklee5790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Ten minutes very well spent... thank you. I’ve often wondered about the four on a horse and assumed they were some obscure aspect of Dutch Republican history but the ‘moral’ theme is just as convincing... Simon Schama’s book The Embarrassment of Riches is a fascinating read on just that topic... and nice to hear the Dutch language suddenly spoken so very charmingly....

  • @msaditu
    @msaditu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Justine is such a lovely presenter. Thank you for a wonderful and interesting talk.

  • @x1101126
    @x1101126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gorgeous voice, fascinating explaination, draws me to the picture and time instantly.

  • @rockingthemike
    @rockingthemike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    justine's enthusiasm and knowledge of the topic has made this a pure joy to watch; great analysis!

  • @sneepandsnorp
    @sneepandsnorp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am so thankful to have found an account that beautifully explains different types of art and paintings! I am learning so much, thank you!!! 🥰🙏

  • @Kazza_8240
    @Kazza_8240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved this, and I loved the presenter, Justine was so engaging and enthusiastic about the subject.

  • @Ceorolus
    @Ceorolus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another good lecture and well done at that. Compliments to all who make them.

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it, Charles. More to come!

  • @joecool7035
    @joecool7035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thanks a lot for this lively presentation. Excellent done

  • @domihaz7788
    @domihaz7788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lovely paintings, lovely. Bkgrnd info, great energy!

  • @LockportDan
    @LockportDan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating. Insightful, intriguing information beautifully presented. Thank you.

  • @magicjoeblack5761
    @magicjoeblack5761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These uploads are a thing of pure joy. 'Thank you' doesn't quite cover it. But thank you in abeyance.

  • @flamenca99
    @flamenca99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great storyteller you are, Justine and only your last name and pronunciation of the Dutch words gave me a clue that you might be Dutch :-)! Fantastic!

  • @JackT13
    @JackT13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember reading somewhere that Saenredam rarely, if ever, painted human figures. I think most of the characters we see in his works are subsequent additions. Fascinating video, thanks!

  • @mikoajmiklasz9689
    @mikoajmiklasz9689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interpretation. And such a lovely, smiling presenter.

  • @jeffmunn-giddings3211
    @jeffmunn-giddings3211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating series of videos - it's surprising how much insight into art one can get in 10 minutes. I'm intrigued by the symbolism of animals, birds and so on in paintings and would welcome a clip covering some of the symbols and why they were used.

  • @rongray655
    @rongray655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great video. I love this channel.

  • @martijnkeisers5900
    @martijnkeisers5900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wat een goede en enthousiaste uitleg, en wat leuk een Nederlandse bij de National Gallery!

  • @elenajune
    @elenajune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating and in-depth video!

  • @marnoch4632
    @marnoch4632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful! Thank you

  • @rlace356
    @rlace356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perhaps a fellow artist could have painted the boys and the graffiti onto this very precise work of art as a graffiti added without permission. The idea makes me smile.....

  • @aiferapple1246
    @aiferapple1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderful presenter :)

  • @xray7908
    @xray7908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Point well made: that the artist utilized imagination in a studio setting to create paintings almost like a fictional narrative - that what you see in paintings like this is generally intentional, and not a product of chance. This only deepens the mystery. Instead of "what are those boys doing," we wonder "what did the artist intend to convey by showing those boys, and what are they doing anyway?"

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful presentation.

  • @texterity3873
    @texterity3873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Justine is terrific!

  • @johnreynolds5407
    @johnreynolds5407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Charming and well-presented.

  • @antoninbesse795
    @antoninbesse795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very engaging presentation - and I learned a lot.

  • @5thastralspassenger
    @5thastralspassenger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was great, thank you!

  • @WillN2Go1
    @WillN2Go1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrific video. I really enjoyed it. I've always enjoyed Saenredam's work and remember seeing this during my visit four years ago. Still I missed most of what's presented here.
    Maybe the graffiti is autobiographical for the artist. It may be where he learned to draw, or did his first practice - which fits with the theme of learning. Where in the 17th Century can a youth to find a smooth surface on which to draw? The outside of buildings? There's the weather. And that the position of the boy drawing is exactly the same as the artist Saenredam painting the picture.
    Also as a photographer I've figured out that if you stretch people, and sometimes architecture vertically about 10% people really like it. More than that and they notice (and complain).

  • @terfalicious
    @terfalicious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful talk, lovely presenter.

  • @geoffreykeane4072
    @geoffreykeane4072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Enjoyable talk - thank you 😊

  • @wilfriedholscher7029
    @wilfriedholscher7029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. 10 minutes well spent.

  • @Bagheera23608
    @Bagheera23608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just adore this series. thank you so much. these are beautiful paintings. It seemed to me the group in the back seems to be dressed in a more middle eastern style as well? or was that just me?

  • @layalabi1667
    @layalabi1667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting , notice there is no stained glass as you would find in a British church !

  • @mojosbigsticks
    @mojosbigsticks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful. I'd never have noticed.

  • @SimonaCochiTheItalianWay
    @SimonaCochiTheItalianWay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravissima! Grazie Grazie mille

  • @candynewton4945
    @candynewton4945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The basket and figures look transparent. Is this photography? The figures do look very different in the foreground and the back.Thank you for sharing your knowledge. 🇺🇸🌹

  • @sacredkinetics.lns.8352
    @sacredkinetics.lns.8352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ` 🌹
    Very enlightening.
    Thank you.

  • @CBTheMechanic
    @CBTheMechanic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about the other scratching right to the graffiti of the horse (right to the horse's head around the corner seen at 3:55)?

  • @alishademmery3581
    @alishademmery3581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gorgeous beautiful magnificent

  • @leslyeglover3506
    @leslyeglover3506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an enjoyable historical moment. Is it my imagination, or is there more 'graffiti' scratched into the pier, in front of the horse - on the darkest side? Minutes 3:42 and 3:46.

  • @randolphfriend8260
    @randolphfriend8260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤️

  • @thatguyswavomeer
    @thatguyswavomeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I assume this is a protestant church. On the contrary to catholic churches, protestant churches were mostly devoid of any images or sculptures. I'm now wondering if this scene with children is any sort of commentary or even satire on the artists' side.